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Posted: 7/22/2017 2:08:16 AM EDT
I didn't know how rare some of the guns were that I got to handle back in the sandbox in our captured weapons storage, until now. I'll start.

Death's head/SS 98k


Iranian G3


Beretta 92S (uncommon here up until recently)


Iraqi Tabuk rifle


To my knowledge, all were turned in to be blown in place/destroyed.
Link Posted: 7/22/2017 3:49:51 AM EDT
[#1]
 I think the MP-44 was the coolest gun I've had the pleasure to play with. 
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Link Posted: 7/22/2017 6:51:53 AM EDT
[#2]
an older friend had two Bren 10's, but no magazines... shot them single loading

American 180... full auto .22lr

Mac11... .380

SiG P210

Semmerling LM4

.500 Linebaugh by Hamilton Bowen
Link Posted: 7/22/2017 7:38:15 AM EDT
[#3]
I got to handle a replica matchlock musket. My history professor had one and brought it to the range when we did our historical firearms day.
Link Posted: 7/22/2017 8:07:04 AM EDT
[#4]
Smith & Wesson M-76..

BAR

Thompson 1928

Holland & Holland eight bore double rifle (didn't get to shoot)

WWII Luftwaffe Drilling
Link Posted: 7/22/2017 8:10:25 AM EDT
[#5]
Link Posted: 7/22/2017 11:55:37 AM EDT
[#6]
A 1943 M1A1 paratrooper. In as issued form...not an arsenal rebuild. It was an estate sale find and I wish I had never sold it...
Link Posted: 7/22/2017 12:47:04 PM EDT
[#7]
One summer, I was a volunteer docent @ the National Firearms Museum back when it was still in DC.  

So I got to touch an original Gatling gun.

I have owned, and sadly sold, a Bannerman Spencer in 12 ga.  Had to have an aluminum extractor made for it, but the breechblock was brazed back together, so I never shot it.

I still own a Mendoza single shot .22" LR imported from Mexico.  Put that in the identify this gun thread and no one could guess it.

I've also designed, built, and tested the only Lyndon in existence so far.  
Link Posted: 7/22/2017 12:49:42 PM EDT
[#8]
I don't have many details but back in 86 a friend of a friend had a wierd rifle shotgun combo.
I believe it was WWII Era gun. The wierd thing about it was it shouldered on the right but you aimed with the left eye. The stock had a curve in it so it would line up correctly.

Similar to this
Link Posted: 7/22/2017 12:52:22 PM EDT
[#9]
Beretta 93R with the stock and everything. 
Link Posted: 7/22/2017 1:09:35 PM EDT
[#10]
I've had the pleasure of shooting this beauty.

Link Posted: 7/22/2017 1:09:40 PM EDT
[#11]
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I don't have many details but back in 86 a friend of a friend had a wierd rifle shotgun combo.
I believe it was WWII Era gun. The wierd thing about it was it shouldered on the right but you aimed with the left eye. The stock had a curve in it so it would line up correctly.

Similar to this
https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/138939/crossover-stock-260228.jpg
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Cripple Stock guns:

Forgotten Weapons "Cripple Stock" guns
Link Posted: 7/22/2017 2:24:18 PM EDT
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I don't have many details but back in 86 a friend of a friend had a wierd rifle shotgun combo.
I believe it was WWII Era gun. The wierd thing about it was it shouldered on the right but you aimed with the left eye. The stock had a curve in it so it would line up correctly.

Similar to this
https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/138939/crossover-stock-260228.jpg
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Maybe intended for an amputee?

EDIT:  beat
Link Posted: 7/22/2017 2:41:04 PM EDT
[#13]
Thompson Sub Machine Gun.  

A Krink.


Not even all the weird or interesting but that's about the extent of my extraordinary guns I shot.....
Link Posted: 7/22/2017 3:17:23 PM EDT
[#14]
Nothing too bizarre, but I've handled a few uncommon firearms.

For instance, I got to shoot an original, full auto MP40 owned by an acquaintance years ago.

I own an original M1A1 Carbine.  It was a CMP purchase, so it's legit.  But it was overhauled at an arsenal a couple of times.
Link Posted: 7/22/2017 3:59:41 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 7/22/2017 8:01:04 PM EDT
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Maybe intended for an amputee?

EDIT:  beat
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Quoted:
I don't have many details but back in 86 a friend of a friend had a wierd rifle shotgun combo.
I believe it was WWII Era gun. The wierd thing about it was it shouldered on the right but you aimed with the left eye. The stock had a curve in it so it would line up correctly.

Similar to this
https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/138939/crossover-stock-260228.jpg
Maybe intended for an amputee?

EDIT:  beat
I liked it because I'm right handed and have poor vision in right eye. Over the years I've just learned to shoot left handed with rifles and shotguns. I shoot pistols like a retard and shoot right handed and aim with left eye.

Really fucks with me when I shoot pool.
Link Posted: 7/22/2017 8:20:02 PM EDT
[#17]
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Quoted:  Maybe intended for an amputee?

EDIT:  beat
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Left eye dominants, right handed.
Link Posted: 7/22/2017 9:33:55 PM EDT
[#18]
Not too unusual, but a full-auto G36. A local PD folded and some guy bought all their FA stuff. Donated use of it to a 3-gun stage.

Stage was a literal spray and pray. 10 water bottles set up inside a barrel and 20 rounds in the mag. Watched nervously as some of the shooters didn't handle the recoil well and was happy to see the ammo ran out before their muzzle rose above the berm. Dunno what their problem was though, was easy enough to control.

Still, never understood the fascination with full-auto, and still don't. It was cool to do, but I wouldn't feel like I missed out on life if I never did again.

Other than that, is say the most unusual pistol I've shot was my buddy's Kimber that worked every shot!  
Link Posted: 7/22/2017 10:56:42 PM EDT
[#19]
Not sure where to draw the line on rare, and I'm sure I'm forgetting some.

Colt M16/M4/Commando/SMG familiy
MP5 all versions except KA1
G3
HK53
HK33K
HK11
G36
G36K
P90
F2000
MG42
MP40
StG44
FG42 (the SMG guns version, not select-fire)
G43
PPSh-41
TT-30
PPS-43
SVT-40
Dragunov
Bren Mk II
Inglis No. 1 Mk I with stock
1937 FN Hi Power with stock
Chinese Schnellfeuer (TU-711) 9mm with stock (not select-fire)
Madsen M50
Swedish K (m/45 SMG)
Walther MPK
S&W 76
UZI (full size)
Stoner 63A Commando and LMG
Stechkin APS
PM-63
Beretta 93R
Glock 18
M1918 BAR
M1919
M2 .50
Barrett M82A1 CQ
M14
M14A1
MK14 EBR
M60
M60E3
MK46 SAW
RPD
PKM
Steyr AUG A2 (not select-fire)
MAS 49/56 Sniper
M203
SPAS-12
USAS-12
Hi-Standard Model 10B
Benelli M1 Entry, M3, M4 Entry
SIG SG 551 SWAT
Ruger AC-556K
Daewoo K2 (not select-fire)
Daewoo K1A1 (not select-fire)
Ultimax 100 Mk III
M1921 Thompson
M1 Thompson
Holloway Arms HAC-7 (only held it)
Link Posted: 7/22/2017 11:26:49 PM EDT
[#20]
Serbu 50 cal BMG rifle

Calico 22lr Pistol

Own a Rhino 357

Own a OU 16 gauge short/ 8mm x 57 HR "gamemaster" vintage gun. It has little holes and a little compartment in the stock for ammo that I can't find.
Link Posted: 7/23/2017 12:33:19 AM EDT
[#21]
I have had the fortune to handle a fair number of odd, offbeat, rare firearms.
I will go with: matched set. Pistol and carbine.

MBA Gyro-jet complete with 12 rounds of ammo.
Link Posted: 7/23/2017 1:55:55 AM EDT
[#22]
Stg44
Chauchaut in 8mm Lebel
Link Posted: 7/23/2017 10:30:21 AM EDT
[#23]
A friend of mine is a collector with a room full of interesting stuff.. The fact we can legally convert SMG/MG into semiauto allow us to own military surplus weapons..

The coolest & most expensive gun he made me shoot was definetly the StG44! Not FA of course but still nice to handle an original one!
Link Posted: 7/24/2017 8:47:06 AM EDT
[#24]
I've shot a 1916? DWM Luger, and a 1915 DWM Mauser.  I don't know if those are considered rare or not.
Link Posted: 7/24/2017 8:57:55 AM EDT
[#25]
SPAS12

B&T TP9 full auto with a can

DSA OSW full auto with a can

Tavor 9mm with Manticore/Ratworx can

plus some not quite as rare machine guns like the MP5, Aug, AK, M16/M4, full size FAL, RPD
Link Posted: 7/24/2017 9:06:22 AM EDT
[#26]
I got to shoot a full auto m14 (this example had a wooden verticle grip built into the stock guess these were rare) a browning 1919 in .308 and a ar-30 in 50bmg.

the local surgeon's used to host a full auto shoot locally, not sure if they still do. basically they tell you what their bringing and offer you to shoot them if you bring factory brass cased ammo. one guy had a 416 ruger double gun (beautiful gun) was offering it up for $20 to touch of two rounds. almost took the bait until I watched a guy get railed by it. lol
Link Posted: 7/24/2017 10:10:32 AM EDT
[#27]
I used to have a .45 ACP Shansei Broomhandle Mauser; and one of the Colt made replica WWII pattern 1911A1 pistols (IIRC, only 1,000 were made; 2003?).  I sold them when I was getting out of .45 ACP guns.  While I eventually returned to owing .45 ACP firearms, my one .45 ACP pistol is a Sig Sauer P220R.
Link Posted: 7/24/2017 11:19:54 AM EDT
[#28]
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Quoted:  Inglis No. 1 Mk I with stock
1937 FN Hi Power with stock
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Which of the two stocks did you prefer?  An Inglis No 1 Mk 1 w/ stock is high on my Someday list.
Link Posted: 7/24/2017 11:22:44 AM EDT
[#29]
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Stoner 63A Commando
FG-42
Jap Type 11 LMG
SIG SG-510
M231 PFW
MAT-49 SMG
PM-63 SMG
Beretta M-12 SMG
Madsen M-50 SMG
Steyr MPi 69 SMG
Walther MPK SMG

to name a few
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Pulls up a rusty metal chair.

So,
Tell me more.  What surprised you with how well it shot/performed?

What challenged your preconceptions the most?
Link Posted: 7/24/2017 12:20:57 PM EDT
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Which of the two stocks did you prefer?  An Inglis No 1 Mk 1 w/ stock is high on my Someday list.
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The FN I fired had a Chinese reproduction (holster) stock, not an original flat board Belgian stock, so unfortunately I can't answer your question. I've wondered myself which is better.

Both of the holster stocks exhibited some play in the fit, although I remember the Canadian stock being slightly tighter in the interface.

I did not notice increased accuracy when using the stock. It was explained to me that it provided a more stable platform when firing from horseback. That makes sense to me.

I did find the Stechkin APS easier to control when firing full auto bursts with the stock attached versus no stock. It is by far my favorite true machinepistol, although I'd like to try a full auto Mauser Schnellfeuer. I'm sure the Stechkin is the easier of the two to control.


For those wondering what we're referring to...

The kind I tried:




The original "flat board" FN style (which was copied from Luger stocks):




Freakin Stechkin :
Link Posted: 7/24/2017 1:21:17 PM EDT
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The FN I fired had a Chinese reproduction (holster) stock, not an original flat board Belgian stock, so unfortunately I can't answer your question. I've wondered myself which is better.

Both of the holster stocks exhibited some play in the fit, although I remember the Canadian stock being slightly tighter in the interface.

I did not notice increased accuracy when using the stock. It was explained to me that it provided a more stable platform when firing from horseback. That makes sense to me.

I did find the Stechkin APS easier to control when firing full auto bursts with the stock attached versus no stock. It is by far my favorite true machinepistol, although I'd like to try a full auto Mauser Schnellfeuer. I'm sure the Stechkin is the easier of the two to control.


For those wondering what we're referring to...

The kind I tried:
http://www.defensivecarry.com/forum/attachments/general-firearm-discussion/81353d1384835051-new-gun-fun-maybe-m14-pattern-need-your-recommendations-dsc_0377.jpg



The original "flat board" FN style (which was copied from Luger stocks):
http://media.liveauctiongroup.net/i/15606/15605148_2.jpg?v=8CFDDF7BAC91450



Freakin Stechkin :
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/3e/Stechkin_APS.jpg/1200px-Stechkin_APS.jpg
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That Stechkin pegs the "cool" meter.

I was surprised how controllable the G18 was.  I could get short bursts with it no problem.  I haven't shot any other machine pistols, though.

I have always been curious about the Skorpion, too.  A 32ACP full auto must be a real hoot.
Link Posted: 7/24/2017 2:51:15 PM EDT
[#32]
Wildey in .45 Magnum
Link Posted: 7/24/2017 2:57:03 PM EDT
[#33]
No1 MkV SMLE

Not super rare, about 20,000 made for troop trials in the early 20s.  Basically an updated SMLE with an aperture sight.
Link Posted: 7/24/2017 3:02:11 PM EDT
[#34]
HK MP7:


Paid $80 for 20 rounds at a Miami machine gun rental place.

Totally worth it
Link Posted: 7/24/2017 3:20:00 PM EDT
[#35]
Probably not rare, but I got to handle a Nambu Type 94 at a gunshow.  Was able to cock it and press on the sear bar, and sure enough, it went "click".  That was back when gunshows had cooler stuff in them.
Link Posted: 7/24/2017 3:20:34 PM EDT
[#36]
Some of the most memorable things I have shot
MG42
1911 with a .308 kit on it (seriously fun, bit it did sting a bit)
Automag in 44auto mag
full auto G3
select fire AK (legit Tantal, it was super cool)
Various full auto/ select fire M16 style rifles, both military and privately owned
Link Posted: 7/24/2017 3:23:02 PM EDT
[#37]
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I was surprised how controllable the G18 was.  I could get short bursts with it no problem.  I haven't shot any other machine pistols, though.

I have always been curious about the Skorpion, too.  A 32ACP full auto must be a real hoot.
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At CST, one of the gunsmith instructors was from Pakistan, and told me about his select-fire .32 Skorpion back home. He said it's very controllable. Idk if I'd trust the .32 ACP chambering as a weapon. He said he wouldn't.

After I shot the factory G18, I ran into a gentleman at Knob Creek with a converted G17 who let me try it. It had a front grip (and a mini bayonet lol) and I found the grip to aid in controllability. The Beretta M93R is a better performer, even with its small folding grip, and of course it only fires bursts. I haven't tried a converted 92. The 93R is a little beefier. Like you, I had no trouble getting short bursts from the Glock, although they do cycle very fast.

I'd love to have a Stechkin. I'm tempted to see if I can get away with importing one for LE use. 
Maybe with a spare slide to machine for a RMR.

I can get the MP7 for about $2,000 though, and it's probably the better option. 
Link Posted: 7/24/2017 3:26:58 PM EDT
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At CST, one of the gunsmith instructors was from Pakistan, and told me about his select-fire .32 Skorpion back home. He said it's very controllable. Idk if I'd trust the .32 ACP chambering as a weapon. He said he wouldn't.

After I shot the factory G18, I ran into a gentleman at Knob Creek with a converted G17 who let me try it. It had a front grip (and a mini bayonet lol) and I found the grip to aid in controllability. The Beretta M93R is a better performer, even with its small folding grip, and of course it only fires bursts. I haven't tried a converted 92. The 93R is a little beefier. Like you, I had no trouble getting short bursts from the Glock, although they do cycle very fast.

I'd love to have a Stechkin. I'm tempted to see if I can get away with importing one for LE use. 
Maybe with a spare slide to machine for a RMR.

I can get the MP7 for about $2,000 though, and it's probably the better option. 
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There has to be an agency that needs a Stechkin.  How can they be even aware of their Stechkin-less state if they have never handled one??
Link Posted: 7/24/2017 3:29:25 PM EDT
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Quoted:  At CST, one of the gunsmith instructors was from Pakistan, and told me about his select-fire .32 Skorpion back home. He said it's very controllable. Idk if I'd trust the .32 ACP chambering as a weapon. He said he wouldn't.
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I think .32" ACP may be the smallest conventional centerfire pistol cartridge that will consistently penetrate 12" of ballistic gel - in FMJ, of course.  I don't know that the Europeans were that wrong in issuing .32" ACP pistols to cops & military officers.  If all you're using is FMJ, 9x19mm doesn't create a much more deadlier wound.
Link Posted: 7/24/2017 3:29:35 PM EDT
[#40]
That's what I'm thinking. Need a great reference collection for comparison, non-taxpayer-funded of course. 
Link Posted: 7/24/2017 3:32:17 PM EDT
[#41]
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I think .32" ACP may be the smallest conventional centerfire pistol cartridge that will consistently penetrate 12" of ballistic gel - in FMJ, of course.  I don't know that the Europeans were that wrong in issuing .32" ACP pistols to cops & military officers.  If all you're using is FMJ, 9x19mm doesn't create a much more deadlier wound.
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IDK about all that. Got links to any gel tests to back that up?

It would seem there should be a significant difference past 50' or so, even when only comparing FMJ loads.
Link Posted: 7/24/2017 4:01:27 PM EDT
[#42]
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Nice 44AMP!
Link Posted: 7/24/2017 4:49:05 PM EDT
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Quoted:  IDK about all that. Got links to any gel tests to back that up?

It would seem there should be a significant difference past 50' or so, even when only comparing FMJ loads.
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14" good enough?

32 ACP Full Metal Jacket Clear Gel Test


I don't know that .25" ACP has enough oomph to get there.  .22" WMR FMJ does - that's what intrigues me about the PMR-30.

Out past 50 feet I think I'd agree - but why did the Czechs choose .32" ACP for the Skorpion?
Link Posted: 7/29/2017 7:09:23 PM EDT
[#44]
M1917
M1919
Rpd
Dsa OSW
Ar18
M3 smg
Thompson M1 SMG
Windrunner in 408 Cheytac
Link Posted: 7/29/2017 7:38:58 PM EDT
[#45]
Never got to fire them but several years back I helped a friend at some Virgina Gun shows and his buddy was a virgina dealer who dis rare historical firearms.

The two that stood out were

1) the actual Lewis Machine gun that was used in the original King Kong movie and in Sandpebbles.he was more interested in showing it off than selling it. Whenever someone would ask its value he would reply that he had to wait 20 years for someone to die before he could grab it and if they were really interested that his wife was putting names on a list for after he was gone.


2) a Hotchiss Naval gun . Think Gatling gun but it fired a round that was about 16" long and about a inch and a quarter diameter. He had it mounted in a gun carridge with wood spoke wheels that were about 7 feet tall . This gun only went to a couple of shows to show it off,was a real stinker to haul around
Link Posted: 7/30/2017 1:53:12 PM EDT
[#46]
B&T APC 9 machine gun
B&T APC 223 machine gun
STG 44
HK 416 machine gun
Link Posted: 7/30/2017 2:04:00 PM EDT
[#47]
Probably the full auto M60. Started a small fire at the range with the live tracer rounds. This was through an ROTC event with war games using M16 select fire with blanks, shooting live grenades with an M16, 40 foot tower rappelling, shot 1911, flew in a Huey, drove home in a big military truck. Not a bad day for a college kid at Iowa State University.
Link Posted: 7/30/2017 2:13:00 PM EDT
[#48]
Browning M2 from the back of a Chevy 1500

Might not be rare to some of you but for a guy who has never served, shooting a belt fed 50 cal from a Chevy was the highlight of the year
Link Posted: 7/30/2017 4:36:19 PM EDT
[#49]
470 NE double rifle. Mine
500 NE double rifle
Wilde 475 Wildey Mag. Mine
Walther PPK off a German my grandfather brought back from WWII. I know own it.
MAC 10 in FA
M16
MP45 in FA
Marbles gamegetter. Mine
Link Posted: 7/30/2017 5:25:41 PM EDT
[#50]
Most unusual I ever owned and fired was a Tigr Dragunov I unfortunately sold not long after buying it. It suckled to shoot.
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