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Posted: 7/22/2017 2:08:16 AM EDT
I didn't know how rare some of the guns were that I got to handle back in the sandbox in our captured weapons storage, until now. I'll start.
Death's head/SS 98k 
Iranian G3 
Beretta 92S (uncommon here up until recently) Iraqi Tabuk rifle 
To my knowledge, all were turned in to be blown in place/destroyed.  
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Posted: 7/22/2017 3:49:51 AM EDT
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Posted: 7/22/2017 6:51:53 AM EDT
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an older friend had two Bren 10's, but no magazines... shot them single loading
American 180... full auto .22lr Mac11... .380 SiG P210 Semmerling LM4 .500 Linebaugh by Hamilton Bowen |
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Posted: 7/22/2017 7:38:15 AM EDT
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I got to handle a replica matchlock musket. My history professor had one and brought it to the range when we did our historical firearms day.
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Posted: 7/22/2017 8:07:04 AM EDT
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Smith & Wesson M-76..
BAR Thompson 1928 Holland & Holland eight bore double rifle (didn't get to shoot) WWII Luftwaffe Drilling |
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Posted: 7/22/2017 8:10:25 AM EDT
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Stoner 63A Commando
FG-42 Jap Type 11 LMG SIG SG-510 M231 PFW MAT-49 SMG PM-63 SMG Beretta M-12 SMG Madsen M-50 SMG Steyr MPi 69 SMG Walther MPK SMG to name a few |
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Posted: 7/22/2017 11:55:37 AM EDT
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A 1943 M1A1 paratrooper. In as issued form...not an arsenal rebuild. It was an estate sale find and I wish I had never sold it...
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Posted: 7/22/2017 12:47:04 PM EDT
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One summer, I was a volunteer docent @ the National Firearms Museum back when it was still in DC.
So I got to touch an original Gatling gun. I have owned, and sadly sold, a Bannerman Spencer in 12 ga. Had to have an aluminum extractor made for it, but the breechblock was brazed back together, so I never shot it. I still own a Mendoza single shot .22" LR imported from Mexico. Put that in the identify this gun thread and no one could guess it. I've also designed, built, and tested the only Lyndon in existence so far. 
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Posted: 7/22/2017 12:49:42 PM EDT
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I don't have many details but back in 86 a friend of a friend had a wierd rifle shotgun combo.
I believe it was WWII Era gun. The wierd thing about it was it shouldered on the right but you aimed with the left eye. The stock had a curve in it so it would line up correctly. Similar to this 
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Posted: 7/22/2017 12:52:22 PM EDT
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Beretta 93R with the stock and everything.
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Posted: 7/22/2017 1:09:35 PM EDT
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I've had the pleasure of shooting this beauty.
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Posted: 7/22/2017 1:09:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
I don't have many details but back in 86 a friend of a friend had a wierd rifle shotgun combo. I believe it was WWII Era gun. The wierd thing about it was it shouldered on the right but you aimed with the left eye. The stock had a curve in it so it would line up correctly. Similar to this https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/138939/crossover-stock-260228.jpg Forgotten Weapons "Cripple Stock" guns |
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Posted: 7/22/2017 2:24:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
I don't have many details but back in 86 a friend of a friend had a wierd rifle shotgun combo. I believe it was WWII Era gun. The wierd thing about it was it shouldered on the right but you aimed with the left eye. The stock had a curve in it so it would line up correctly. Similar to this https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/138939/crossover-stock-260228.jpg EDIT: beat |
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Posted: 7/22/2017 2:41:04 PM EDT
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Thompson Sub Machine Gun.
A Krink. Not even all the weird or interesting but that's about the extent of my extraordinary guns I shot..... |
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Posted: 7/22/2017 3:17:23 PM EDT
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Nothing too bizarre, but I've handled a few uncommon firearms.
For instance, I got to shoot an original, full auto MP40 owned by an acquaintance years ago. I own an original M1A1 Carbine. It was a CMP purchase, so it's legit. But it was overhauled at an arsenal a couple of times. |
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Posted: 7/22/2017 3:59:41 PM EDT
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Posted: 7/22/2017 8:01:04 PM EDT
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Maybe intended for an amputee? EDIT: beat Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I don't have many details but back in 86 a friend of a friend had a wierd rifle shotgun combo. I believe it was WWII Era gun. The wierd thing about it was it shouldered on the right but you aimed with the left eye. The stock had a curve in it so it would line up correctly. Similar to this https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/138939/crossover-stock-260228.jpg EDIT: beat 
Really fucks with me when I shoot pool. |
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Posted: 7/22/2017 8:20:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Maybe intended for an amputee?
EDIT: beat |
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Posted: 7/22/2017 9:33:55 PM EDT
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Not too unusual, but a full-auto G36. A local PD folded and some guy bought all their FA stuff. Donated use of it to a 3-gun stage.
Stage was a literal spray and pray. 10 water bottles set up inside a barrel and 20 rounds in the mag. Watched nervously as some of the shooters didn't handle the recoil well and was happy to see the ammo ran out before their muzzle rose above the berm. Dunno what their problem was though, was easy enough to control. Still, never understood the fascination with full-auto, and still don't. It was cool to do, but I wouldn't feel like I missed out on life if I never did again. Other than that, is say the most unusual pistol I've shot was my buddy's Kimber that worked every shot!
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Posted: 7/22/2017 10:56:42 PM EDT
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Not sure where to draw the line on rare, and I'm sure I'm forgetting some.
Colt M16/M4/Commando/SMG familiy MP5 all versions except KA1 G3 HK53 HK33K HK11 G36 G36K P90 F2000 MG42 MP40 StG44 FG42 (the SMG guns version, not select-fire) G43 PPSh-41 TT-30 PPS-43 SVT-40 Dragunov Bren Mk II Inglis No. 1 Mk I with stock 1937 FN Hi Power with stock Chinese Schnellfeuer (TU-711) 9mm with stock (not select-fire) Madsen M50 Swedish K (m/45 SMG) Walther MPK S&W 76 UZI (full size) Stoner 63A Commando and LMG Stechkin APS PM-63 Beretta 93R Glock 18 M1918 BAR M1919 M2 .50 Barrett M82A1 CQ M14 M14A1 MK14 EBR M60 M60E3 MK46 SAW RPD PKM Steyr AUG A2 (not select-fire) MAS 49/56 Sniper M203 SPAS-12 USAS-12 Hi-Standard Model 10B Benelli M1 Entry, M3, M4 Entry SIG SG 551 SWAT Ruger AC-556K Daewoo K2 (not select-fire) Daewoo K1A1 (not select-fire) Ultimax 100 Mk III M1921 Thompson M1 Thompson Holloway Arms HAC-7 (only held it) |
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Posted: 7/22/2017 11:26:49 PM EDT
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Serbu 50 cal BMG rifle
Calico 22lr Pistol Own a Rhino 357 Own a OU 16 gauge short/ 8mm x 57 HR "gamemaster" vintage gun. It has little holes and a little compartment in the stock for ammo that I can't find. |
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Posted: 7/23/2017 12:33:19 AM EDT
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I have had the fortune to handle a fair number of odd, offbeat, rare firearms.
I will go with: matched set. Pistol and carbine. MBA Gyro-jet complete with 12 rounds of ammo. |
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Posted: 7/23/2017 1:55:55 AM EDT
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Stg44
Chauchaut in 8mm Lebel |
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Posted: 7/23/2017 10:30:21 AM EDT
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A friend of mine is a collector with a room full of interesting stuff.. The fact we can legally convert SMG/MG into semiauto allow us to own military surplus weapons..
The coolest & most expensive gun he made me shoot was definetly the StG44! Not FA of course but still nice to handle an original one! |
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Posted: 7/24/2017 8:47:06 AM EDT
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I've shot a 1916? DWM Luger, and a 1915 DWM Mauser. I don't know if those are considered rare or not.
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Posted: 7/24/2017 8:57:55 AM EDT
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SPAS12
B&T TP9 full auto with a can DSA OSW full auto with a can Tavor 9mm with Manticore/Ratworx can plus some not quite as rare machine guns like the MP5, Aug, AK, M16/M4, full size FAL, RPD |
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Posted: 7/24/2017 9:06:22 AM EDT
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I got to shoot a full auto m14 (this example had a wooden verticle grip built into the stock guess these were rare) a browning 1919 in .308 and a ar-30 in 50bmg.
the local surgeon's used to host a full auto shoot locally, not sure if they still do. basically they tell you what their bringing and offer you to shoot them if you bring factory brass cased ammo. one guy had a 416 ruger double gun (beautiful gun) was offering it up for $20 to touch of two rounds. almost took the bait until I watched a guy get railed by it. lol
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Posted: 7/24/2017 10:10:32 AM EDT
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I used to have a .45 ACP Shansei Broomhandle Mauser; and one of the Colt made replica WWII pattern 1911A1 pistols (IIRC, only 1,000 were made; 2003?). I sold them when I was getting out of .45 ACP guns. While I eventually returned to owing .45 ACP firearms, my one .45 ACP pistol is a Sig Sauer P220R.
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Posted: 7/24/2017 11:19:54 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Inglis No. 1 Mk I with stock
1937 FN Hi Power with stock |
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Posted: 7/24/2017 11:22:44 AM EDT
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Stoner 63A Commando FG-42 Jap Type 11 LMG SIG SG-510 M231 PFW MAT-49 SMG PM-63 SMG Beretta M-12 SMG Madsen M-50 SMG Steyr MPi 69 SMG Walther MPK SMG to name a few So, Tell me more. What surprised you with how well it shot/performed? What challenged your preconceptions the most? |
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Posted: 7/24/2017 12:20:57 PM EDT
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Which of the two stocks did you prefer? An Inglis No 1 Mk 1 w/ stock is high on my Someday list. Both of the holster stocks exhibited some play in the fit, although I remember the Canadian stock being slightly tighter in the interface. I did not notice increased accuracy when using the stock. It was explained to me that it provided a more stable platform when firing from horseback. That makes sense to me. I did find the Stechkin APS easier to control when firing full auto bursts with the stock attached versus no stock. It is by far my favorite true machinepistol, although I'd like to try a full auto Mauser Schnellfeuer. I'm sure the Stechkin is the easier of the two to control. For those wondering what we're referring to... The kind I tried: 
The original "flat board" FN style (which was copied from Luger stocks): 
Freakin Stechkin  :
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Posted: 7/24/2017 1:21:17 PM EDT
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The FN I fired had a Chinese reproduction (holster) stock, not an original flat board Belgian stock, so unfortunately I can't answer your question. I've wondered myself which is better. Both of the holster stocks exhibited some play in the fit, although I remember the Canadian stock being slightly tighter in the interface. I did not notice increased accuracy when using the stock. It was explained to me that it provided a more stable platform when firing from horseback. That makes sense to me. I did find the Stechkin APS easier to control when firing full auto bursts with the stock attached versus no stock. It is by far my favorite true machinepistol, although I'd like to try a full auto Mauser Schnellfeuer. I'm sure the Stechkin is the easier of the two to control. For those wondering what we're referring to... The kind I tried: http://www.defensivecarry.com/forum/attachments/general-firearm-discussion/81353d1384835051-new-gun-fun-maybe-m14-pattern-need-your-recommendations-dsc_0377.jpg The original "flat board" FN style (which was copied from Luger stocks): http://media.liveauctiongroup.net/i/15606/15605148_2.jpg?v=8CFDDF7BAC91450 Freakin Stechkin :
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/3e/Stechkin_APS.jpg/1200px-Stechkin_APS.jpg I was surprised how controllable the G18 was. I could get short bursts with it no problem. I haven't shot any other machine pistols, though. I have always been curious about the Skorpion, too. A 32ACP full auto must be a real hoot. |
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Posted: 7/24/2017 2:51:15 PM EDT
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Wildey in .45 Magnum
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Posted: 7/24/2017 2:57:03 PM EDT
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No1 MkV SMLE
Not super rare, about 20,000 made for troop trials in the early 20s. Basically an updated SMLE with an aperture sight. |
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Posted: 7/24/2017 3:02:11 PM EDT
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HK MP7:
Paid $80 for 20 rounds at a Miami machine gun rental place. Totally worth it 
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Posted: 7/24/2017 3:20:00 PM EDT
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Probably not rare, but I got to handle a Nambu Type 94 at a gunshow. Was able to cock it and press on the sear bar, and sure enough, it went "click". That was back when gunshows had cooler stuff in them.
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Posted: 7/24/2017 3:20:34 PM EDT
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Some of the most memorable things I have shot
MG42 1911 with a .308 kit on it (seriously fun, bit it did sting a bit) Automag in 44auto mag full auto G3 select fire AK (legit Tantal, it was super cool) Various full auto/ select fire M16 style rifles, both military and privately owned |
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Posted: 7/24/2017 3:23:02 PM EDT
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I was surprised how controllable the G18 was. I could get short bursts with it no problem. I haven't shot any other machine pistols, though. I have always been curious about the Skorpion, too. A 32ACP full auto must be a real hoot. After I shot the factory G18, I ran into a gentleman at Knob Creek with a converted G17 who let me try it. It had a front grip (and a mini bayonet lol) and I found the grip to aid in controllability. The Beretta M93R is a better performer, even with its small folding grip, and of course it only fires bursts. I haven't tried a converted 92. The 93R is a little beefier. Like you, I had no trouble getting short bursts from the Glock, although they do cycle very fast. I'd love to have a Stechkin. I'm tempted to see if I can get away with importing one for LE use.
Maybe with a spare slide to machine for a RMR. I can get the MP7 for about $2,000 though, and it's probably the better option. |
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Posted: 7/24/2017 3:26:58 PM EDT
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At CST, one of the gunsmith instructors was from Pakistan, and told me about his select-fire .32 Skorpion back home. He said it's very controllable. Idk if I'd trust the .32 ACP chambering as a weapon. He said he wouldn't. After I shot the factory G18, I ran into a gentleman at Knob Creek with a converted G17 who let me try it. It had a front grip (and a mini bayonet lol) and I found the grip to aid in controllability. The Beretta M93R is a better performer, even with its small folding grip, and of course it only fires bursts. I haven't tried a converted 92. The 93R is a little beefier. Like you, I had no trouble getting short bursts from the Glock, although they do cycle very fast. I'd love to have a Stechkin. I'm tempted to see if I can get away with importing one for LE use.
Maybe with a spare slide to machine for a RMR. I can get the MP7 for about $2,000 though, and it's probably the better option. |
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Posted: 7/24/2017 3:29:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: At CST, one of the gunsmith instructors was from Pakistan, and told me about his select-fire .32 Skorpion back home. He said it's very controllable. Idk if I'd trust the .32 ACP chambering as a weapon. He said he wouldn't. |
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Posted: 7/24/2017 3:29:35 PM EDT
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That's what I'm thinking. Need a great reference collection for comparison, non-taxpayer-funded of course.
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Posted: 7/24/2017 3:32:17 PM EDT
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I think .32" ACP may be the smallest conventional centerfire pistol cartridge that will consistently penetrate 12" of ballistic gel - in FMJ, of course. I don't know that the Europeans were that wrong in issuing .32" ACP pistols to cops & military officers. If all you're using is FMJ, 9x19mm doesn't create a much more deadlier wound. It would seem there should be a significant difference past 50' or so, even when only comparing FMJ loads. |
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Posted: 7/24/2017 4:01:27 PM EDT
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Quote History |
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Posted: 7/24/2017 4:49:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: IDK about all that. Got links to any gel tests to back that up?
It would seem there should be a significant difference past 50' or so, even when only comparing FMJ loads.  Failed To Load Title I don't know that .25" ACP has enough oomph to get there. .22" WMR FMJ does - that's what intrigues me about the PMR-30. Out past 50 feet I think I'd agree - but why did the Czechs choose .32" ACP for the Skorpion? |
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Posted: 7/29/2017 7:09:23 PM EDT
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M1917
M1919 Rpd Dsa OSW Ar18 M3 smg Thompson M1 SMG Windrunner in 408 Cheytac |
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Posted: 7/29/2017 7:38:58 PM EDT
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Never got to fire them but several years back I helped a friend at some Virgina Gun shows and his buddy was a virgina dealer who dis rare historical firearms.
The two that stood out were 1) the actual Lewis Machine gun that was used in the original King Kong movie and in Sandpebbles.he was more interested in showing it off than selling it. Whenever someone would ask its value he would reply that he had to wait 20 years for someone to die before he could grab it and if they were really interested that his wife was putting names on a list for after he was gone. 2) a Hotchiss Naval gun . Think Gatling gun but it fired a round that was about 16" long and about a inch and a quarter diameter. He had it mounted in a gun carridge with wood spoke wheels that were about 7 feet tall . This gun only went to a couple of shows to show it off,was a real stinker to haul around |
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Posted: 7/30/2017 1:53:12 PM EDT
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B&T APC 9 machine gun
B&T APC 223 machine gun STG 44 HK 416 machine gun |
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Posted: 7/30/2017 2:04:00 PM EDT
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Probably the full auto M60. Started a small fire at the range with the live tracer rounds. This was through an ROTC event with war games using M16 select fire with blanks, shooting live grenades with an M16, 40 foot tower rappelling, shot 1911, flew in a Huey, drove home in a big military truck. Not a bad day for a college kid at Iowa State University.
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Posted: 7/30/2017 2:13:00 PM EDT
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Browning M2 from the back of a Chevy 1500
Might not be rare to some of you but for a guy who has never served, shooting a belt fed 50 cal from a Chevy was the highlight of the year
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Posted: 7/30/2017 4:36:19 PM EDT
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470 NE double rifle. Mine
500 NE double rifle Wilde 475 Wildey Mag. Mine Walther PPK off a German my grandfather brought back from WWII. I know own it. MAC 10 in FA M16 MP45 in FA Marbles gamegetter. Mine |
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Posted: 7/30/2017 5:25:41 PM EDT
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Most unusual I ever owned and fired was a Tigr Dragunov I unfortunately sold not long after buying it. It suckled to shoot.
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