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Posted: 6/5/2008 8:18:56 AM EDT

My goal is to have 16" total barrel. Anyone heard of building an integral suppressor onto a AR barrel. The barrel would need to be cut shorter that 16" but with the suppressor permanently attached (totaling 16"), only the suppressor would need the stamp. Is my thought process correct in regards to legality?

Also seems plenty of suppressor, expansion chamber, could be stuffed under a floating rail handguard.

Posted: 6/5/2008 9:30:55 AM EDT

[#1]

M4 barrel with permanently attached suppressor.

As a manufacturer we don't advise permanently attaching a suppressor to a barrel on an M4 because under normal use the suppressor will far outlast the barrel. Once the barrel is worn and shot out, how do you go about dealing with the suppressor that is now welded to the barrel?

If you live in a state that allows SBR's then we recommend spending the extra $200 on an SBR registration tax. If you live in a state that does not allow SBR's then this becomes more relevant.

Owen
Gemtech Staff

Posted: 6/5/2008 10:58:09 AM EDT

[#2]

I have talket to G-Man before and they blind pin the cans on. They say if you wanted to have the can removed and mounted on another barrel they will provide that service for you. Not sure what it costs but it can be done. You also wouldn't want a can perm attached from a cleaning standpoint. What happens when you clean your barrel with solvents. The can will fill with solvent and it will sit in the baffles until you shoot it again. That can't be good for the can.

MadDog

Posted: 6/5/2008 1:47:45 PM EDT

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Quoted:
My goal is to have 16" total barrel. Anyone heard of building an integral suppressor onto a AR barrel. The barrel would need to be cut shorter that 16" but with the suppressor permanently attached (totaling 16"), only the suppressor would need the stamp. Is my thought process correct in regards to legality?

Also seems plenty of suppressor, expansion chamber, could be stuffed under a floating rail handguard.

www.srtarms.com/custom.htm

ETA: I don't own SRT stuff. Well, technically I do, but I am waiting on ATF approval. He comes with a great reputation though and I've had several email conversations with him.

ETA2: To clarify, because of the gas system there's only so much barrel that can be made to be "integral", but I'd bet that if this is what you want, SRT is the guy to talk to. Me, I'd go with one of his integral 9mm uppers if I wanted an integral AR can.

Posted: 6/5/2008 2:22:30 PM EDT

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My goal is to have 16" total barrel. Anyone heard of building an integral suppressor onto a AR barrel. The barrel would need to be cut shorter that 16" but with the suppressor permanently attached (totaling 16"), only the suppressor would need the stamp. Is my thought process correct in regards to legality?

Also seems plenty of suppressor, expansion chamber, could be stuffed under a floating rail handguard.

www.srtarms.com/custom.htm

ETA: I don't own SRT stuff. Well, technically I do, but I am waiting on ATF approval. He comes with a great reputation though and I've had several email conversations with him.

ETA2: To clarify, because of the gas system there's only so much barrel that can be made to be "integral", but I'd bet that if this is what you want, SRT is the guy to talk to. Me, I'd go with one of his integral 9mm uppers if I wanted an integral AR can.

Not too familar with other than 5.56 systems, is 9mm a simple blowback (no gas tube)?

Posted: 6/5/2008 2:32:46 PM EDT

[#5]

Quoted:

Quoted:
My goal is to have 16" total barrel. Anyone heard of building an integral suppressor onto a AR barrel. The barrel would need to be cut shorter that 16" but with the suppressor permanently attached (totaling 16"), only the suppressor would need the stamp. Is my thought process correct in regards to legality?

Also seems plenty of suppressor, expansion chamber, could be stuffed under a floating rail handguard.

www.srtarms.com/custom.htm

ETA: I don't own SRT stuff. Well, technically I do, but I am waiting on ATF approval. He comes with a great reputation though and I've had several email conversations with him.

ETA2: To clarify, because of the gas system there's only so much barrel that can be made to be "integral", but I'd bet that if this is what you want, SRT is the guy to talk to. Me, I'd go with one of his integral 9mm uppers if I wanted an integral AR can.

I have an integral .45 setup from SRT. I'd highly reccomend his work.

Posted: 6/5/2008 2:39:44 PM EDT

[#6]

Quoted:

Quoted:
My goal is to have 16" total barrel. Anyone heard of building an integral suppressor onto a AR barrel. The barrel would need to be cut shorter that 16" but with the suppressor permanently attached (totaling 16"), only the suppressor would need the stamp. Is my thought process correct in regards to legality?

Also seems plenty of suppressor, expansion chamber, could be stuffed under a floating rail handguard.

www.srtarms.com/custom.htm

ETA: I don't own SRT stuff. Well, technically I do, but I am waiting on ATF approval. He comes with a great reputation though and I've had several email conversations with him.

ETA2: To clarify, because of the gas system there's only so much barrel that can be made to be "integral", but I'd bet that if this is what you want, SRT is the guy to talk to. Me, I'd go with one of his integral 9mm uppers if I wanted an integral AR can.

I have an integral .45 setup from SRT. I'd highly reccomend his work.

Sweet. I have his 10/22 pending and I'll be doing a 77/44 in a few months.

Posted: 6/5/2008 2:45:07 PM EDT

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Not too familar with other than 5.56 systems, is 9mm a simple blowback (no gas tube)?

Correct. Though I think guys have done DI guns too in that caliber.

Posted: 6/5/2008 6:52:19 PM EDT

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Quoted:

Quoted:
My goal is to have 16" total barrel. Anyone heard of building an integral suppressor onto a AR barrel. The barrel would need to be cut shorter that 16" but with the suppressor permanently attached (totaling 16"), only the suppressor would need the stamp. Is my thought process correct in regards to legality?

Also seems plenty of suppressor, expansion chamber, could be stuffed under a floating rail handguard.

www.srtarms.com/custom.htm

ETA: I don't own SRT stuff. Well, technically I do, but I am waiting on ATF approval. He comes with a great reputation though and I've had several email conversations with him.

ETA2: To clarify, because of the gas system there's only so much barrel that can be made to be "integral", but I'd bet that if this is what you want, SRT is the guy to talk to. Me, I'd go with one of his integral 9mm uppers if I wanted an integral AR can.

I have an integral .45 setup from SRT. I'd highly reccomend his work.

Same here and seconded.

Joe

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