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Posted: 6/17/2009 11:44:07 AM EST
What is your calculated cost per round for the calibers you reload in bulk? Not talking about that extra special magic load to nail gnats at 1k meters. Just the stuff you use for range playing. I'm trying to get a feel for the prices nowadays.
Link Posted: 6/17/2009 11:56:58 AM EST
for .223 (not counting brass cost, haven't had to buy any yet), I'm at ~0.16 per round (Ramshot TAC powder, Wolf SRM primers, Hornady 55gr. FMJ)

for .45ACP (again, not counting brass, got enough of that from commercial rounds) I'm at ~0.27 per round (VIHT N340 powder, Reminton 2 1/2 primers, Hornady 230 grain XTP/HP)

I bought everything in bulk, so it keeps the costs low. And bought everything in the last 5 months, so these are pretty current prices (I traded SRM primers for Large Pistol Primers to get going on .45). The bullets are the expensive part, especially for .45. With both loads, I'm running about half or less than what I'd pay commercial.


Link Posted: 6/17/2009 12:26:53 PM EST
Back in the days when 9mm bulk packs were 9 something at Wally World and a box of blazer 9mm was four bucks (or less) at Academy Sports I wasn't saving that m uch money by reloading that caliber. I made up for it by reloading .45ACP, .38spl, and .357 magnum.

These days, you're saving about 30% across the board regardless of what caliber you load.

Link Posted: 6/17/2009 12:27:59 PM EST
5 cents a primer, 25 cents for powder, 25 cents for a bullet, prorated 5 cents for one use of brass. 60 cents a shot. I can buy equivalent factory loads locally for about 75 cents, and if you factor in reusing the brass 4 more times, it is actually cheaper to shoot factory once then reload it 4 times. This is for .270 blasting and includes postage or tax.
Link Posted: 6/17/2009 12:42:15 PM EST
Holy smokes. The last time i reloaded for .45 it was like 9 cents a round. :(
Link Posted: 6/17/2009 12:46:33 PM EST
Originally Posted By wreckhog:
5 cents a primer, 25 cents for powder, 25 cents for a bullet, prorated 5 cents for one use of brass. 60 cents a shot. I can buy equivalent factory loads locally for about 75 cents, and if you factor in reusing the brass 4 more times, it is actually cheaper to shoot factory once then reload it 4 times. This is for .270 blasting and includes postage or tax.



That's a bit high even at today's prices. I just bought 1K of primers locally and with tax they were about $28 or 2.8 cents each. A pound of powder locally is about $21. $21 divided by 7000 grains per pound, times 50 grains average in a .270 = 15 cents. For bullets you are pretty close. So I see it as 2.8 + 15 + 25 = 43 cents a round not counting the brass or buying componets in bulk. For handgun or .223 it is a bit less. Either way, there is a lot of pride in shooting your own and you can produce ammo for your specific needs or desires.

Bob


Link Posted: 6/17/2009 12:58:58 PM EST
.223 about $0.09 per round using a 55 gr FMJ
.45 ACP about $0.10 per round using a 200 gr lead SWC
.357 about $0.15 per round using a 158 gr JHP
.38 spl about $0.12 per round using a 158 lead SWC

All my ammo is using components I bought in the late 90's early 2000's so the prices are low.

I see what stuff is going for today and I thank God that I bought stuff when and in the amount I did.
Link Posted: 6/17/2009 1:10:40 PM EST
.17 a round using ss109 bullets.
Link Posted: 6/17/2009 1:33:56 PM EST
30 Carbine - 10.1¢/round
38/357 Mag - 11.8¢/round
40sw - 6.1¢/round
45acp - 7.2¢/round
10mm - 9.7¢/round
223 55/62grn - 8.1¢/round
223 68grn - 14.9¢/round

Those are my current prices based upon existing stocks on hand. I have 10K rds of components for ea caliber for all except my newest , 38/357 which I have 6k worth of components for.
Link Posted: 6/17/2009 1:42:34 PM EST
[Last Edit: 6/17/2009 1:46:52 PM EST by wreckhog]
Originally Posted By Bobcape:
Originally Posted By wreckhog:
5 cents a primer, 25 cents for powder, 25 cents for a bullet, prorated 5 cents for one use of brass. 60 cents a shot. I can buy equivalent factory loads locally for about 75 cents, and if you factor in reusing the brass 4 more times, it is actually cheaper to shoot factory once then reload it 4 times. This is for .270 blasting and includes postage or tax.



That's a bit high even at today's prices. I just bought 1K of primers locally and with tax they were about $28 or 2.8 cents each. A pound of powder locally is about $21. $21 divided by 7000 grains per pound, times 50 grains average in a .270 = 15 cents. For bullets you are pretty close. So I see it as 2.8 + 15 + 25 = 43 cents a round not counting the brass or buying componets in bulk. For handgun or .223 it is a bit less. Either way, there is a lot of pride in shooting your own and you can produce ammo for your specific needs or desires.

Bob


.44 Mag

3 cents per bullet (bought roughly 1K of mixed (mostly 200gr and 240gr soft cast SWC) for $32 at the flea market), 3 cents for powder (old can of Unique that I found in the back of a shop), 3 cents per primer ($29 for 1K, last box in the shop, going up $10 at the restock due to Hazmat fees per the owner), brass free (range brass)

9 cents each time I pull the trigger.

Same flea market, I bought roughly 2500 mixed .22 rimfire for $25. Everything from shotshells to Yellow Jackets to HV shorts to CB caps. All goes bang though. 1 cent each time I pull the trigger.
Link Posted: 6/17/2009 1:47:51 PM EST
Let's see - using prices for stuff that I've bought recently:

.223 is running 17c/rd ($3.40/box)
5000 55FMJs @ $370 = 7.4c
5000 primers @165 =3.3c
8#Varget @135 =6.3c

9mm is running 13.5c/rd ($6.75/box)
1000 147gr plated =8c
1000 primers @40 (ouch) = 4c
1#Bluedot @19 =1.5c

357Sig = 18.6c/rd ($9.30/box)
500 124JHP 12c
1000 primers @40 (ouch) = 4c
1#Bluedot @19 =2.6c
Link Posted: 6/17/2009 1:54:50 PM EST
Comments:

OMFG you got Varget!

Could save 1-2 cents per .223 bullet by using pulls

Link Posted: 6/17/2009 2:03:04 PM EST
For stuff I've recently sold you cold theoretically load if you had brass already:
.308-.12cents per round on tracers
.223-.11cents per round ball
.308-15 cents per round ball.
Summer is here and everyone has definitly slowed down buying certain componets. I'm not sure if they have enough or if they are running out of money! But everyone I've talked with is slowing their purchases down.
Link Posted: 6/17/2009 2:29:01 PM EST

Originally Posted By silentweapon338:
For stuff I've recently sold you cold theoretically load if you had brass already:
.308-.12cents per round on tracers
.223-.11cents per round ball
.308-15 cents per round ball.
Summer is here and everyone has definitly slowed down buying certain componets. I'm not sure if they have enough or if they are running out of money! But everyone I've talked with is slowing their purchases down.


I've definitely slowed down due to money... not that I wouldn't spend more, but my wife is starting to feel the pain of my purchases... I've got another 10K primers on backorder, after that, I'll probably not buy anything more gun-related until late fall (If I can help myself!!!)
Link Posted: 6/18/2009 4:11:27 AM EST
223: pulled M196, X-terminator - 9.5c/rd
223: Hornady 55gr SP, X-term - 13c/rd
30Carb: 110gr plated, H110 - 14.5c/rd
30Carb: 110gr JSP, H110 - 17.5c/rd
30-06: pulled M2, H4895 - 22c/rd
30-06: pulled M25, H4895 - 18c/rd
303Brit: pulled Combloc, H4895 - 15.5c/rd
6.5x50R: 140gr JSP, H4895 - 22c/rd
45ACP: 230gr FMJ, Titegroup - 14.5c/rd
9x19: 124gr FMJ, Titegroup - 10c/rd
9x18: 95gr plated, Titegroup - 12c/rd
38spl: 158gr LSWC, Titegroup - 8.5c/rd

Although... with the exception of 38spl and 9x18mak... everything was bought before the current shortages/hikes.
Everything else bought within the past 30 months.
Link Posted: 6/18/2009 4:57:47 AM EST
Originally Posted By tbonifie:
for .223 (not counting brass cost, haven't had to buy any yet), I'm at ~0.16 per round (Ramshot TAC powder, Wolf SRM primers, Hornady 55gr. FMJ)

for .45ACP (again, not counting brass, got enough of that from commercial rounds) I'm at ~0.27 per round (VIHT N340 powder, Reminton 2 1/2 primers, Hornady 230 grain XTP/HP)

I bought everything in bulk, so it keeps the costs low. And bought everything in the last 5 months, so these are pretty current prices (I traded SRM primers for Large Pistol Primers to get going on .45). The bullets are the expensive part, especially for .45. With both loads, I'm running about half or less than what I'd pay commercial.




.27 for .45 to reload I detect some fuzzy math

Link Posted: 6/18/2009 5:36:24 AM EST
Originally Posted By coldsteele35:
.27 for .45 to reload I detect some fuzzy math

What's fuzzy? 230gr XTP projos go for 22c by themselves. Then add 5c for primer and powder. Seems about right.
Link Posted: 6/18/2009 5:52:46 AM EST
[Last Edit: 6/18/2009 5:58:33 AM EST by MastaMarksman]
.223 = $0.19 Per Round ($0.02-Brass, $0.0299-Primer, $0.0625-Powder, $0.08-Bullet) - (LC Brass - WSR - H335 @ 8lb - Hornady 55gr FMJ)

9mm=$0.13 Per Round ($0.01-Brass, $0.0299-Primer, $0.0125-Powder, $0.079-Bullet) - (Mixed Brass - WSP - W231 @ 8lb - Berry's 115 RN)

Those are at current priced* components (No "I Bought my shit 40 years ago" Info Here)


-Masta


*Current Priced = Current NORMAL price, not GunBroker, EE, or any other Rip-Off Source.
Link Posted: 6/18/2009 5:54:01 AM EST
[Last Edit: 6/18/2009 5:55:08 AM EST by wshbrngr]
Originally Posted By ShortyBP:
Originally Posted By coldsteele35:
.27 for .45 to reload I detect some fuzzy math

What's fuzzy? 230gr XTP projos go for 22c by themselves. Then add 5c for primer and powder. Seems about right.


I just calculated my cost (all prices include sales tax):
Brass: $0.00
Hornady 230gr HP/XTP: ( 2 boxes @ $43.18 / 200) = $0.216
CCI Lrg Pistol Primer: (1000 @ $32.44) = $0.0324
Win 231 (1lb @ $21.65 / 7000) = $0.00309 X 5.5gr) = $0.017
Total: $0.265/rnd

ETA: all components were purchased in the last 6 months (I just started reloading < 1yr ago).


Link Posted: 6/18/2009 6:37:45 AM EST
Link Posted: 6/18/2009 7:40:31 AM EST
.45 ACP I figure I am at about 16 or 17 cents per after initial brass investmnent. If you add in the brass Iits about 26 cents per round

$23 per 1K Large Pistol Primers
$114 per 1000 230 FJM Bullets
$24 for 1 lb of Bullseye Powder

Say you load 5K every 6 months....

$260 per thousand for 1st set
$161 per thousand after that

Total for 5K is $904 so thats about .18 cents average per round.

Powder could be a lot less if you can find an 8lb jug w/o haz mat shipping. This # is base on local 1lb fun shop prices.

All bought in bulk.

These #'s dont work for small qualtities.....

If you were lucky enoght to get some less expensive SA .45 ACP for say $325 per K from Weideners cost would be $1625 for 5K. Thats savings of $721.

More than enough to make up for equipment.....

Thats how I sold the idea to the boss


Link Posted: 6/18/2009 12:02:15 PM EST
I haven’t been reloading since the dawn of time, and most of my runs are small like when ever i can find a box of .223 fmjs

My calculated cost is roughly $50 per 250 rounds. PMC is like 9 bucks so I figure after taxes its $10, that’s 100 rounds of PMC for 50 bucks, as apposed to my 250 per $50.
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