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Link Posted: 6/29/2020 1:17:14 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By katzma:
I've only seen one airsoft SC70/90. Be as hard to find as a real stock. If you have a line on one please let me know!
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Will check.
I’m not into airsoft but I know it a rare item.. may be a bit more popular over here
Link Posted: 6/29/2020 4:14:22 PM EDT
Frens - What would be the correct sling, bayonet, mag pouches for the AR70/90?

I have some tan colored 3 mag pouches for NATO 30 rd mags that are made in Italy - have no idea if they are for AR70/90 or ARX160 series or both?

Link Posted: 6/29/2020 4:38:38 PM EDT
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I’m not a beretta expert but if I recall correctly the GI sling is a 2 or 3 point sling with metal hooks.. similar to the one used by the PM12 or Spas12.

As for mag pouch I’ve seen domestic made clones of the American LC2 pouches with buckle closure as well as IDF style pouches with Velcro closure.
Standard gear is OD but tan stuff was made as well.

The bayonet is based on the M1 carbine one.. Italian bayos also have a S/N (not matched to the rifle).

Here’s a good source for pics and info (in Italian)

https://www.collezionareexordinanza.it/scheda/74/BERETTA-AR70-90/


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these are the parts

Link Posted: 6/30/2020 5:21:42 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Frens:
I’m not a beretta expert but if I recall correctly the GI sling is a 2 or 3 point sling with metal hooks.. similar to the one used by the PM12 or Spas12.

As for mag pouch I’ve seen domestic made clones of the American LC2 pouches with buckle closure as well as IDF style pouches with Velcro closure.
Standard gear is OD but tan stuff was made as well.

The bayonet is based on the M1 carbine one.. Italian bayos also have a S/N (not matched to the rifle).

Here’s a good source for pics and info (in Italian)

https://www.collezionareexordinanza.it/scheda/74/BERETTA-AR70-90/


ETA:
these are the parts

http://images.lavetrinadellearmi.it/_vda_78494_116498_b_116498_138350.jpg
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Thank you for sharing the info.  The cleaning tool is reminiscent of the BM59 combo tool.

Link Posted: 7/2/2020 11:34:57 PM EDT
Worked on the SC stock today.  Made a mount and welded the XCR folding mechanism to it, then drilled the stock for helicoils (1/4x20) and attached it to the folding mech.  Still needs lots of work to blend everything together and smooth out the stock. Hopefully get that all done this weekend.  Thinking about adding the XCR rubber butt pad but don't know yet. Pretty happy with it so far.






Link Posted: 7/5/2020 8:35:54 PM EDT
Any source for correct Beretta AR 70/90 slings?
Link Posted: 7/6/2020 12:25:01 AM EDT
Finished the SC stock today. Pretty happy with how it turned out. Adapter is made of steel, with the XCR folding mechanism welded to it and blended in. It attached to the aluminum stock with 1/4x20 button head bolts and anchored in with helicoils. The XCR butt pad was a no-go. Still have to make one out of rubber or some type of plastic. I also drilled out several inches of the top tube to lighten it up. Stripped stock weighs 5oz. Lock up is tight and had to shave more off the left safety selector. You can still see where I used jb weld to fill in the mold shrinkage. But overall I think it looks close to the original.  









Link Posted: 7/6/2020 12:55:14 AM EDT
Bravo Zulu.
Link Posted: 7/6/2020 6:23:55 AM EDT
Amazing job!
Link Posted: 7/6/2020 4:39:20 PM EDT
Amazing work - Looks like the real deal
Link Posted: 7/7/2020 9:54:10 PM EDT
Thanks for the comments.

Here's a couple buttplate candidates.  The white is some type of hard teflon or delrin we use at work on carts so aircraft skins don't get scratches. The black is some kind of hard flexible rubber.  

Now. Has anyone dyed hard plastic like the white piece? I don't know if paint will stick to it. Should be able to work on them Thurs or Friday.



Link Posted: 7/7/2020 10:17:25 PM EDT
The white bit looks like Delrin.
Link Posted: 7/8/2020 10:51:59 AM EDT
Link Posted: 7/8/2020 7:46:38 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 7/8/2020 7:49:15 PM EDT by MPiKM]
Apex has the sets back in stock of anyone missed them before.

https://www.apexgunparts.com/beretta-ar70-90-parts-set-gd.html

They don't look as good as the free ones.
Link Posted: 7/12/2020 5:38:52 PM EDT
Buttpad completed. Turned out pretty good. Excuse the non centered screws lol.





Link Posted: 7/14/2020 6:08:17 PM EDT
That's pretty f-in' good. It looks certainly usable, and I wouldn't hesitate to do so.
Link Posted: 8/13/2020 6:29:08 PM EDT
Any updates?
Link Posted: 8/15/2020 5:40:36 PM EDT
How do you get in touch with Mark S? I would like to add my name to the list wanting an AR70/90 barrel and/or receiver...Bill
Link Posted: 8/15/2020 8:12:39 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By 2bnag:
How do you get in touch with Mark S? I would like to add my name to the list wanting an AR70/90 barrel and/or receiver...Bill
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This is the email he sent me this week...

Noel,
We will be making barrels and may make receiver shells and/or rails.  Please check back on the website for updates.

Thanks,
Mark:

Link Posted: 8/17/2020 9:02:28 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By 2bnag:
How do you get in touch with Mark S? I would like to add my name to the list wanting an AR70/90 barrel and/or receiver...Bill
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He posts regularly on weaponsguild.  Id suggest becoming a member and check out all the different build etc.
Link Posted: 9/13/2020 6:56:46 PM EDT
Receiver flats and some of the internals are available other places. Dunno if you get banned here for posting links to sellers. I'm working on my kit, but my build thread is not on this site but over at militaryfirearm.com

Katzma, are you planning to build the SBR SCP70/90 version, or just the SC70/90?





Link Posted: 9/13/2020 10:20:18 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Xnke:  Receiver flats and some of the internals are available other places. Dunno if you get banned here for posting links to sellers. I'm working on my kit, but my build thread is not on this site but over at militaryfirearm.com

Katzma, are you planning to build the SBR SCP70/90 version, or just the SC70/90?

https://i.imgur.com/qxPohCch.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/SbAGuwph.jpg
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Welcome to ARFCOM.  You can post any vendor link other than your own.
Link Posted: 9/19/2020 3:11:02 PM EDT
OK, I bought a kit and some mags.

I don't have the shop or ability to do the work.

Hopefully someone will be able to build for folks from the kits up.


Link Posted: 10/10/2020 2:31:41 PM EDT
Xnke and katzma, didn't know you guys were over here. It's been along time since I got back to arfcom. Been a bit boring at other sites.
You guys know who I am.
Link Posted: 10/10/2020 9:07:27 PM EDT
Link Posted: 10/10/2020 11:18:07 PM EDT
Any updates on build parts?

I have my parts kit.
Link Posted: 11/9/2020 8:25:08 PM EDT
I went ahead and bought a parts kit from centerfire systems.
Link Posted: 11/9/2020 8:37:16 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By akguy1985:
I went ahead and bought a parts kit from centerfire systems.
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Hopefully someday we will be able to get someone to build one for us
Link Posted: 11/9/2020 11:30:16 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By sherrick13:
Hopefully someday we will be able to get someone to build one for us
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No joke, it'd be a nice companion to my ARX-100
Link Posted: 12/12/2020 8:36:13 PM EDT
Any updates on barrels or receivers???
Link Posted: 12/17/2020 6:09:47 PM EDT
Somebody is doing something for the AR70/90.


https://www.gunbroker.com/item/886680487
Link Posted: 12/18/2020 8:44:40 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By 37F:
Somebody is doing something for the AR70/90.


https://www.gunbroker.com/item/886680487
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Saw that. I'm #85 on his list. He said receiver kit will likely be around $350. I imagine the barrel will be the difficult part to find
Link Posted: 12/19/2020 5:14:31 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By katzma:
Saw that. I'm #85 on his list. He said receiver kit will likely be around $350. I imagine the barrel will be the difficult part to find
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Looks like he will be doing barrels too.

For sale is stamped 80% receiver for the Beretta AR70. Comes with drawing. This auction is for the AR70 full receiver section only. This receiver will not fit the AR70/90. Shipping will be $10... As you can see in the pics I now have AR70/90 full 80% receiver section coming up for sale soon. We will also have the rails, rear trunnion , trunnion repair tabs, and barrels for sale. 80% Receiver , rails , rear trunnion are projected to be available in large quantities some time in January. A few barrels will be available as well (maybe 10) As barrel blanks are not available at this time. Barrels will be available in sufficient quantities around May. Receivers once assembled will not accept a lower receiver with the auto sear and will not allow a bolt with the auto trip lug to be installed, both will need to be removed.
Link Posted: 12/19/2020 10:01:56 AM EDT
Wish we had more info on who the seller is.   I am also interested in who will produce the semi auto parts that we will need for the trigger housing as well as the bolt.  


As per my earlier comment a few pages back....do we have any idea how many AR 70/90 parts kits were brought into the country?
Link Posted: 12/19/2020 11:52:28 AM EDT
Link Posted: 12/19/2020 12:36:03 PM EDT
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Saw that. I'm #85 on his list. He said receiver kit will likely be around $350. I imagine the barrel will be the difficult part to find
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Originally Posted By katzma:
Originally Posted By 37F:
Somebody is doing something for the AR70/90.


https://www.gunbroker.com/item/886680487
Saw that. I'm #85 on his list. He said receiver kit will likely be around $350. I imagine the barrel will be the difficult part to find

What list do you speak of?
Link Posted: 12/19/2020 2:25:12 PM EDT
What's so difficult about making the bbl?
Link Posted: 12/20/2020 6:51:53 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By backbencher:
What's so difficult about making the bbl?
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Nothing supposedly just everyone's having problems finding blanks.
Link Posted: 12/20/2020 6:59:30 PM EDT
Link Posted: 12/20/2020 7:28:57 PM EDT
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If you look a little closer, all of the modern twist blanks in .223 are sold out. I believe they have been for a while. All that’s left are 1/12 and 1/14 blanks.

I was actually considering making some basic AR-70/90 barrels to sell, but the lack of blanks has put the brakes on that idea.
Link Posted: 12/20/2020 7:51:49 PM EDT
Looks like the tightest twist you can get is 1:9" right now.  Not surprising, given the current run - much like Sandy Hook.  Ordered a .458 SOCOM upper from Rock River (MFBUT) and it took more than a year to get it in b/c no one was making .458 bolts.
Link Posted: 12/21/2020 12:14:17 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By sherrick13:

What list do you speak of?
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The seller that's making the 80% receivers. I emailed him telling him I'd like to purchase a set and when they would be available. He said I was #85 on his list and should he available end of January-ish. Think his initial run is 100 sets.
Link Posted: 12/21/2020 9:27:17 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By katzma:
The seller that's making the 80% receivers. I emailed him telling him I'd like to purchase a set and when they would be available. He said I was #85 on his list and should he available end of January-ish. Think his initial run is 100 sets.
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Originally Posted By sherrick13:

What list do you speak of?
The seller that's making the 80% receivers. I emailed him telling him I'd like to purchase a set and when they would be available. He said I was #85 on his list and should he available end of January-ish. Think his initial run is 100 sets.
ok thanks.

I'm on some list.
Link Posted: 12/21/2020 10:36:41 AM EDT
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Yea really guess you haven't been paying attention.Try finding a galil barrel anywhere.
Link Posted: 12/21/2020 11:03:45 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By tac34:  Yea really guess you haven't been paying attention.Try finding a galil barrel anywhere.
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Galil bbls would be a scarce item in normal times.  Blanks are available.  How hard is a Galil bbl to make?
Link Posted: 12/21/2020 10:11:23 PM EDT
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Galil bbls would be a scarce item in normal times.  Blanks are available.  How hard is a Galil bbl to make?
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In years past, they actually were not too hard to find. With parts kits coming in semi-regularly for a while,

It’s not a particularly complex barrel. But there is some metric threading to contend with. It’s fairly slender, but that’s not really that difficult to deal with, just a consideration. The journal for the gas block is a press fit, so obviously tolerance on that section is kinda tight. So all in all, not particularly difficult.
Link Posted: 12/22/2020 12:45:14 PM EDT
Well, I am on the list...so I will let everyone know how it plays out with these new receivers.
Link Posted: 12/23/2020 5:52:06 PM EDT
I picked one up for 200. Figured it was cheap enough and I got on the list for the upper receiver.
Link Posted: 1/28/2021 7:38:22 PM EDT
I also got a kit coming in form APEX. Following  with much interest as I now need the same stuff as the rest of you guys.

I had 2 Ar 70 kits years ago I sent to a gunsmith in Texas, he never returned them.
Link Posted: 1/28/2021 8:08:00 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By wtyler3:  I also got a kit coming in form APEX. Following  with much interest as I now need the same stuff as the rest of you guys.

I had 2 Ar 70 kits years ago I sent to a gunsmith in Texas, he never returned them.
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Name/location, so we can avoid him?
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