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Posted: 3/30/2009 8:17:28 PM EST
[Last Edit: 6/17/2009 4:29:33 PM EST by Renegade13B]
I saw this on the gear porn page (page 74) and wanted one but there wasn't much info on who made it. luckly I was poking around a gun show in Washington and I found the guy that makes them. Here is a short review and some pics followed by contact information.

I bought only the basics of the holster because that was all I needed. All I got was the holster itself (4 short MALICE clips included). It was $100 plus shiping. The whole rig that includes the holster, leg panel, 6 shell holder, and MALICE clips (2 long, 4 short) is $150 plus shiping.

Heres what came in the box

http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g110/firestormus/IMG_0202.jpg

Now with my 870 in it. I got the holster that is sidesaddle compatible but you can get one that is not and has a solid sidewall on both sides insted of just one. If your shotgun has a larger forend like mine did, it will not fit. I had to take off my Surefire forend and put the original forend back on to make it fit. I expected this when I ordered. If you contact SKT and want one custom made to fit a different forend, theres a good chance it can be done.

http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g110/firestormus/IMG_0203.jpg

Note the retention straps. The bungee strap will not work with a stock and does not work well with a low angel pistol grip like mine. It is best when used with a normal pistol grip. It also has a buckle strap. It is reversible and removable. For my application, I chose to not use ether as gravity will keep it in just fine.

http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g110/firestormus/IMG_0204.jpg

I put the holster on the back of my Tactical Tailor T.T.R.A.C. via the 4 included short MALICE clips. This part was a pain to say the least. The holser was so stiff (thats a good thing) that I had a hard time weaving the MALICE clips between the MOLLE. I put it on where I thought I wanted it and it ended up being to low so I had to take it off and do it again. My advice to you- Make sure you know where you want it mounted befor you start putting it on. After I got it in place I could easily pull it out with a little bit of a reach. Putting it back is a lot more challenging but still doable.

http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g110/firestormus/IMG_0208.jpg

The guy who makes these is very freindly. After I ordered it arived within 3 days. SKT is based out of Seattle. You can get it in Black, Tan, OD green, ACU, Ranger Green, or Multicam. You can also order a bungee cord muzzle cap to keep dirt and grim out of your muzzle until you pull your shotgun out. This holster is also great for conneting to MOLLE backpack if your hiking or whatever.

SKT Industries contact info:
(206)633-4461
email: skt_industries@comcast.net

All in all I am happy with this and I recomend it if you have a need for such a thing. If you have questions or comments, fire away.
Link Posted: 3/30/2009 9:12:01 PM EST
My question is... do you know the proper technique for firing such a weapon. It is different than most think!
Link Posted: 3/30/2009 9:46:24 PM EST
Originally Posted By DasRonin:
My question is... do you know the proper technique for firing such a weapon. It is different than most think!


Say wut? Pull trigger go boom right?

Yes I do know the "proper technique" as I have used a shotgun durring firefights in Iraq.

What do you mean by "proper technique?"
Link Posted: 3/30/2009 9:55:19 PM EST
[Last Edit: 3/30/2009 10:00:39 PM EST by DasRonin]
Originally Posted By Renegade13B:
Originally Posted By DasRonin:
My question is... do you know the proper technique for firing such a weapon. It is different than most think!


Say wut? Pull trigger go boom right?

Yes I do know the "proper technique" as I have used a shotgun durring firefights in Iraq.

What do you mean by "proper technique?"


The proper technique for the "witness protection shotgun" or any with the type of grip you have is...

Strong hand on pistol grip... support hand on action bar (fore stock). Shotgun held out as if it had a stock sight down the barrel (actually use the bead sight). With the support hand push forward towards the threat... with the strong hand pull back as if you were trying to stretch the weapon. The recoil will come back and down and not towards your face or up to the forehead. A federal agency I retired from issued such a shotgun and I was a career long instructor with that agency. Those that did not use this technique often required band-aides after the instructional course of fire and made a career decision to never check one out. People like me who loved the gun played on the range between classes shooting 1 oz slugs out of the things... just for grins!

The only modification of that technique was if it had a stand off device for breaching. In that case the standoff makes contact with the door and the weapon is pushed with both hands against the door.

reference photo about 3/4 down the page...
http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://members.tripod.com/~speedbump920/Rem1a.jpg&imgrefurl=http://members.tripod.com/~speedbump920/rifle.html&usg=__hsK38Slg1Kg6IlY0OcFMG2GEE6U=&h=122&w=286&sz=13&hl=en&start=1&um=1&tbnid=JuKYxytM949j5M:&tbnh=49&tbnw=115&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dwitness%2Bprotection%2Bshotgun%2­6hl%3Den%26safe%3Doff%26sa%3DN%26um%3D1
Link Posted: 3/30/2009 10:32:49 PM EST
Originally Posted By DasRonin:
The proper technique for the "witness protection shotgun" or any with the type of grip you have is...

Strong hand on pistol grip... support hand on action bar (fore stock). Shotgun held out as if it had a stock sight down the barrel (actually use the bead sight). With the support hand push forward towards the threat... with the strong hand pull back as if you were trying to stretch the weapon. The recoil will come back and down and not towards your face or up to the forehead. A federal agency I retired from issued such a shotgun and I was a career long instructor with that agency. Those that did not use this technique often required band-aides after the instructional course of fire and made a career decision to never check one out. People like me who loved the gun played on the range between classes shooting 1 oz slugs out of the things... just for grins!

The only modification of that technique was if it had a stand off device for breaching. In that case the standoff makes contact with the door and the weapon is pushed with both hands against the door.



Oh, That makes sence. Ill have to try that next time. I personaly have never had the problem of getting hit in the face with the recoil, even when look down the barral at the bead. I mostly shoot from the hip with that shotty up there as I can hit what Im aiming at first shot up to 40 yards, thats longer than I plan on shooting that thing in a real sanario. anything further and I pull out my PS90. However your technique is not lost on me and I will make sure to see how it fits me the next time I puts some rounds downrange.


Link Posted: 3/31/2009 7:53:21 AM EST
[Last Edit: 3/31/2009 7:57:17 AM EST by FaceTime]
DASRONIN - Very good info. on technique. Thanks!

Renegade13B - how about a pic of you wearing the rig for some perspective (or just put it on a dummy)? Most of us don't have the cool shotguns that DASRONIN taught with (and that is a shame), so we have to make due with the 18 inchers. With his type drawing it from that scabbard would seem to be very fast and easy––with an 18 incher, not so much. I do think this scabbard is a bit more useful than the leg scabbard that Eagle is currently offering . . . . .


[ETA: Renegade13B, tell your buddy at SKT to set up a simple one page website for this (and any other) product––it would do wonders for his sales.]
Link Posted: 3/31/2009 10:28:55 AM EST
[Last Edit: 4/16/2009 3:23:18 PM EST by Renegade13B]
Ask and ye shall recive. Here are some "cute" bathroom pics. Mirrior pic so everythings backwards.

I am using a shotty with an 18 in barrel. Shorter would be faster but I can get the job done just fine with 18 in. It takes no more than 3 seconds to pull out and about 5 to put back providid I get it first try (im getting better with practice)

And I told the guy who makes these that he should make a webpage. I dont know if he will though.

http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g110/firestormus/IMG_0210-1.jpg
Even with the 18 in barrel, the muzzle on drops down to about mid butt. when sitting, the muzzle will drop to and touch whatever Im sitting on
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g110/firestormus/IMG_0214-1.jpg
Note the bottem of the vest opening up. After I grab it I pull forward and up, this makes the bottem of the vest open away from the vest. Its not a big deal as it goes back as soon as the shotty is out. The opening is a part of the vest design
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g110/firestormus/IMG_0215-1.jpg


Edit: got my photoshop flip on
Link Posted: 3/31/2009 5:36:15 PM EST
1) Thanks for the pics! It'd be awesome if someone could get their photoshop on and flip them around.

2) I love your shower curtain.
Link Posted: 4/7/2009 6:46:34 PM EST
[Last Edit: 4/7/2009 6:47:02 PM EST by Renegade13B]
Bump, just cuz I took the time to take pics (I never do that)

Anyone buy one of these after reading this review?
Link Posted: 6/17/2009 4:21:16 PM EST
Bump, many people have PMed me or made topics about this product
Link Posted: 6/17/2009 5:27:09 PM EST
Originally Posted By Renegade13B:
Originally Posted By DasRonin:
The proper technique for the "witness protection shotgun" or any with the type of grip you have is...

Strong hand on pistol grip... support hand on action bar (fore stock). Shotgun held out as if it had a stock sight down the barrel (actually use the bead sight). With the support hand push forward towards the threat... with the strong hand pull back as if you were trying to stretch the weapon. The recoil will come back and down and not towards your face or up to the forehead. A federal agency I retired from issued such a shotgun and I was a career long instructor with that agency. Those that did not use this technique often required band-aides after the instructional course of fire and made a career decision to never check one out. People like me who loved the gun played on the range between classes shooting 1 oz slugs out of the things... just for grins!

The only modification of that technique was if it had a stand off device for breaching. In that case the standoff makes contact with the door and the weapon is pushed with both hands against the door.



Oh, That makes sence. Ill have to try that next time. I personaly have never had the problem of getting hit in the face with the recoil, even when look down the barral at the bead. I mostly shoot from the hip with that shotty up there as I can hit what Im aiming at first shot up to 40 yards, thats longer than I plan on shooting that thing in a real sanario. anything further and I pull out my PS90. However your technique is not lost on me and I will make sure to see how it fits me the next time I puts some rounds downrange.

Ive been hit in the teeth before, not pleasant. Thankfully they didnt crack or chip anymore than they already are, I dont think.



Link Posted: 6/18/2009 4:56:47 AM EST
dude, gotta lose the moo cow shower curtain.
Link Posted: 6/18/2009 5:20:56 AM EST
nice,

do you have any pics of your AOW with the Surefire fore end attached? Wondering how that worked
Link Posted: 6/18/2009 5:12:21 PM EST
I would think having a hydration system on your back would get a tad bit more use then a breaching shotgun in the woods....

A Pistol gripped shotgun is handy for MOUT in a team setting, but other then that, what is the purpose of having it on your back...?
Link Posted: 6/20/2009 9:39:00 AM EST
The gear looks well designed and made.
Link Posted: 6/20/2009 3:24:30 PM EST

Originally Posted By dunndw:
nice,

do you have any pics of your AOW with the Surefire fore end attached? Wondering how that worked


sorry, no pics with the surefire, but it deffanatly will not fit. thats why I took it off
Link Posted: 6/22/2009 2:22:29 PM EST
Originally Posted By Renegade13B:
Ask and ye shall recive. Here are some "cute" bathroom pics. Mirrior pic so everythings backwards.

I am using a shotty with an 18 in barrel. Shorter would be faster but I can get the job done just fine with 18 in. It takes no more than 3 seconds to pull out and about 5 to put back providid I get it first try (im getting better with practice)

And I told the guy who makes these that he should make a webpage. I dont know if he will though.

http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g110/firestormus/IMG_0210-1.jpg
Even with the 18 in barrel, the muzzle on drops down to about mid butt. when sitting, the muzzle will drop to and touch whatever Im sitting on
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g110/firestormus/IMG_0214-1.jpg
Note the bottem of the vest opening up. After I grab it I pull forward and up, this makes the bottem of the vest open away from the vest. Its not a big deal as it goes back as soon as the shotty is out. The opening is a part of the vest design
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g110/firestormus/IMG_0215-1.jpg


Edit: got my photoshop flip on


Whats your height, weight, and what type of chest rig is that if you dont mind me asking.
Link Posted: 6/22/2009 8:16:28 PM EST
[Last Edit: 6/22/2009 8:18:50 PM EST by Renegade13B]

Originally Posted By startat2:
Originally Posted By Renegade13B:
Ask and ye shall recive. Here are some "cute" bathroom pics. Mirrior pic so everythings backwards.

sinp... bla bla bla /snip

Edit: got my photoshop flip on


Whats your height, weight, and what type of chest rig is that if you dont mind me asking.

What are you? ATF?

Im 6' 190lb And that would be a T.T.R.A.C Tactical Tailor Relesable Armor Carrier

I am very happy with it. It only holdes front/back and side plates, no kevlar
Link Posted: 8/25/2009 1:19:24 PM EST
hey yall!!!

here is the brochure straight from the source. got it in an email today.

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c39/bfelts1ak/shotgunholster-2009-3.jpg
Link Posted: 8/25/2009 2:07:06 PM EST
I guess S-MART didn't carry those or Ash would have been holstering his BOOM-STICK in style while fighting the army of the dead.
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