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Posted: 7/5/2010 5:11:04 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 7/5/2010 5:11:49 PM EDT by GunnyApproved]
Haven’t seen anyone asking about these yet. Anyone have one of the MagPul UBR - Utility/Battle Rifle stocks? Really looking into getting one for my YHM Black Diamond Specter. Any feedback form some of ya'll out there would be appreciated. Pros, Cons, Love/Hate and why?

http://rds.yahoo.com/_ylt=A0WTb_7ngTJMzhgA2QSjzbkF/SIG=11mk0vrvc/EXP=1278464871/**http%3a//vtsupply.com/images/ubr.jpg
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Link Posted: 7/5/2010 5:12:53 PM EDT
Very nice stock. A little pricey but built very strong and has great features. From a 16" middy to a 20" rifle, I think they are a great choice.
Link Posted: 7/5/2010 5:16:53 PM EDT
Looks nice....
Link Posted: 7/5/2010 5:19:34 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 7/5/2010 5:23:13 PM EDT by cormorantslayer]
The stock is IMO about the best there is, it's a little heavy but it balances the rifle well. The presets are a great feature.

Link Posted: 7/5/2010 5:21:16 PM EDT
Very sturdy with a rock solid lock up. The downside is that it's relatively heavy, although that may not be a bad thing. It really helps to balance the rifle out, if your rifle is front heavy due to rails and equipment.
Link Posted: 7/5/2010 5:40:10 PM EDT
I have one on my AR-10 and love it.
Same as above ......buit like a tank and solid.
Cons the price!
Link Posted: 7/5/2010 6:15:29 PM EDT
Out of place on lightweight builds, and I prefer the preproduction type dual-sided QD cups; still waiting to see MagPul unveil their ASAP-ish ambi-1pt sling solution for it (closest right now is the ASAP or IKH Slap and the ERGO F93).
If you have an ACOG, you want a UBR, as it's the best solution out there. For Recce, SPR, or precision rigs they've great, and they honestly should be on (more) issued weapons
Otherwise, effing fantastic, and the price isn't that bad if you're the type who considers cost of a weapon system in terms of service life.
Link Posted: 7/5/2010 7:01:30 PM EDT
Pros:
Locks up solid
Instant LOP with screw stops
Consistent cheek weld
Looks badass
2 built in QD points
User removable storage doors
Weight (depends on build)

Cons:
Pricey
Weight (depends on build)

I liked that it is a heavy stock, which helped balanced my 18'' SPR build. The CTR I had before made my rifle front heavy. YMMV
Link Posted: 7/5/2010 7:42:13 PM EDT
Great for longer barrel builds or nose heavy builds to balance out the gun.
Solid as a rock


Link Posted: 7/5/2010 8:32:38 PM EDT
Thanks everyone! My rifle is a self built Yankee Hill Black Diamond specter. Center of ballance is dang near the front take down pin so the heavy stock will most likly make her back heavy. But that's okay, as it will get most of its use from prone on a bi-pod shooting two-three hundred yards. Thanks again, I'm sold.
Link Posted: 7/6/2010 12:11:00 AM EDT
Have been looking at them. How adjustable is the cheek piece. Are there any parts for higher or wider contact?
Link Posted: 7/6/2010 1:20:49 AM EDT
Originally Posted By TonyAngel:
Very sturdy with a rock solid lock up. The downside is that it's relatively heavy, although that may not be a bad thing. It really helps to balance the rifle out, if your rifle is front heavy due to rails and equipment.


+1
Link Posted: 7/6/2010 2:46:43 AM EDT
It's more of an entry-length stock and weighs 3 times as much as a M4 stock. It looks cool, but not for $260
Link Posted: 7/6/2010 7:38:41 AM EDT
I've used the UBR and PRS and strongly prefer the PRS. It's all personal preference and depends on the gun, though.
Link Posted: 7/6/2010 1:32:31 PM EDT
Originally Posted By metroplex:
It's more of an entry-length stock and weighs 3 times as much as a M4 stock. It looks cool, but not for $260


Ummm... It extends For a 20"+ Precision rig, yes, PRS. For my 13.7" HBAR w/ pinned comp, it's friggin' perfect.

Link Posted: 7/6/2010 2:10:05 PM EDT
IMO the sexiest stock out there but pretty pricey to put on an already built rifle. When building a lower you save some dough not having to buy receiver extension, fancy end plates, sling attachment etc. Since they can be had for 230 shipped, I like to think of them as a 160$ stock with 70$ worth of stuff I'd have to buy anyway.
Link Posted: 7/6/2010 10:02:05 PM EDT
$200 for OD or foliage green at DSG Arms. I love mine and can't wait to have an upper to go with it!

MF
Link Posted: 7/7/2010 1:23:14 AM EDT

Originally Posted By SamW:
Originally Posted By metroplex:
It's more of an entry-length stock and weighs 3 times as much as a M4 stock. It looks cool, but not for $260


Ummm... It extends For a 20"+ Precision rig, yes, PRS. For my 13.7" HBAR w/ pinned comp, it's friggin' perfect.


I use a 6-position M4 for my 24" HBAR w/ FFHG.

The UBR is sexy w/ the compartment removed, but not $260+ sexy.
Link Posted: 7/7/2010 1:42:44 AM EDT
Originally Posted By MooseForce:
$200 for OD or foliage green at DSG Arms. I love mine and can't wait to have an upper to go with it!

MF



Great price, I just ordered one. It's back ordered but I can wait. Thanks for the info.
Link Posted: 7/7/2010 7:49:43 AM EDT
It's a bit heavy and expensive, but is solid. It has positive adjustments, a good cheek weld and balances a heavy barreled rifle nicely. Plus it just looks damn good. I've got one on my LR-308 and am very happy with it.
Link Posted: 7/7/2010 7:51:02 AM EDT
too heavy and overpriced
Link Posted: 7/7/2010 8:01:52 AM EDT
it's supposed to be heavy as it was intended for front heavy guns to help balance them out, and fill the role between a precision rifle stock like the PRS and a basic carbine stock like the CTR

expensive and overpriced i don't quite understand... the VLTOR emod kit is $190 for a carbine receiver extension and a stock with some added storage. the new VLTOR A5 is like $225-230 and that's just a longer receiver extension and special spring/buffer. the LMT SOPMOD is $200 by itself and like $260 as a kit. at $250, the UBR is a decent price.
Link Posted: 7/7/2010 9:14:17 AM EDT
If you dont consider all of those overpriced
Link Posted: 7/7/2010 11:50:27 AM EDT
There's no such thing as overpriced. An item is worth what folks are willing to pay for it. Last I checked, Magpul has had zero issues selling UBRs.

More than you want to spend? Don't buy one.
Link Posted: 7/7/2010 12:11:12 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 7/7/2010 12:11:56 PM EDT by metroplex]

Originally Posted By hellbound:
it's supposed to be heavy as it was intended for front heavy guns to help balance them out, and fill the role between a precision rifle stock like the PRS and a basic carbine stock like the CTR

expensive and overpriced i don't quite understand... the VLTOR emod kit is $190 for a carbine receiver extension and a stock with some added storage. the new VLTOR A5 is like $225-230 and that's just a longer receiver extension and special spring/buffer. the LMT SOPMOD is $200 by itself and like $260 as a kit. at $250, the UBR is a decent price.

VLTOR and LMT SOPMOD are also overpriced IMHO. They add storage compartments and the VLTOR tears off facial hair for a premium.

At least the UBR looks sexy for $260.

Again I use a standard 6-position M4 stock for my 24" HBAR. This rifle weighs about 12-13 lb empty with optics. I don't have any problems with the balance, it's just a heavy gun.

No one is trying to dissuade anyone from buying the UBR, I'm just saying the $260+ price tag is steep for a piece of furniture.
Link Posted: 7/7/2010 6:16:31 PM EDT
From the one I picked up it seemed like a well built well thought out stock, but it is a brick (durability). that being said, if you decide to pull the trigger on one aimsurplus has FDE, OD, and Foliage green in their closeouts section for $200 and (dont hold me to it) free shipping.
Link Posted: 7/7/2010 7:29:00 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 7/7/2010 7:29:34 PM EDT by BB]
Originally Posted By Pro2AinPA:
There's no such thing as overpriced. An item is worth what folks are willing to pay for it. Last I checked, Magpul has had zero issues selling UBRs.

More than you want to spend? Don't buy one.


I think folks are not using the economics 101 definition of overpriced; rather they are shortening "the stock doesnt provide enough additional benefit over a less expensive stock to justify the price in my opinion" to "it's overpriced".

I tend to agree.
Link Posted: 7/8/2010 5:20:47 AM EDT
Originally Posted By BB:
Originally Posted By Pro2AinPA:
There's no such thing as overpriced. An item is worth what folks are willing to pay for it. Last I checked, Magpul has had zero issues selling UBRs.

More than you want to spend? Don't buy one.


I think folks are not using the economics 101 definition of overpriced; rather they are shortening "the stock doesnt provide enough additional benefit over a less expensive stock to justify the price in my opinion" to "it's overpriced".

I tend to agree.


So what stock do you run? And, after you add the cost of the receiver extension, end plate, and castle nut to the cost of the stock alone, just how much cheaper is it than a UBR?
Link Posted: 7/8/2010 5:33:30 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Pro2AinPA:
Originally Posted By BB:
Originally Posted By Pro2AinPA:
There's no such thing as overpriced. An item is worth what folks are willing to pay for it. Last I checked, Magpul has had zero issues selling UBRs.

More than you want to spend? Don't buy one.


I think folks are not using the economics 101 definition of overpriced; rather they are shortening "the stock doesnt provide enough additional benefit over a less expensive stock to justify the price in my opinion" to "it's overpriced".

I tend to agree.


So what stock do you run? And, after you add the cost of the receiver extension, end plate, and castle nut to the cost of the stock alone, just how much cheaper is it than a UBR?


Exactly. The UBR replaces the entire assembly except the buffer and buffer spring. Going by MSRP:

Colt M4 stock kit
$200

BCM M4 stock kit
$85

CTR $95
receiver extension $35
end plate and castle nut $10
buffer $25
spring $5
$170

UBR $260
buffer $25
spring $5
$290

SOPMOD kit
$265

I am looking at purchasing a UBR for my next rifle. I don't think $215 (DSG) is overpriced at all.
Dustin
Link Posted: 7/8/2010 6:20:29 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 7/8/2010 6:55:10 AM EDT by BB]
I recently paid $80 for my Gen1 SOPMOD stock (new) and $56 for the BCM receiver extension kit. Happy as a clam. I realize its MSRP is higher, but to be honest, I'd never buy a stock in that price range. I've bought all these used just to check them out and never found any of them so much better than a standard carbine stock that it would justify the price (although the CTR I liked) so I sold them. On my 308 I run a "hook" stock. Shoot, prior to the SOPMODS I get when I can find them cheap, I used a regular old CAR stock, so I am a cheap bastard; not that big on keeping up with the joneses
Link Posted: 7/8/2010 2:36:02 PM EDT

Originally Posted By pezboytate:
Originally Posted By Pro2AinPA:
Originally Posted By BB:
Originally Posted By Pro2AinPA:
There's no such thing as overpriced. An item is worth what folks are willing to pay for it. Last I checked, Magpul has had zero issues selling UBRs.

More than you want to spend? Don't buy one.


I think folks are not using the economics 101 definition of overpriced; rather they are shortening "the stock doesnt provide enough additional benefit over a less expensive stock to justify the price in my opinion" to "it's overpriced".

I tend to agree.


So what stock do you run? And, after you add the cost of the receiver extension, end plate, and castle nut to the cost of the stock alone, just how much cheaper is it than a UBR?


Exactly. The UBR replaces the entire assembly except the buffer and buffer spring. Going by MSRP:

Colt M4 stock kit
$200

BCM M4 stock kit
$85

CTR $95
receiver extension $35
end plate and castle nut $10
buffer $25
spring $5
$170

UBR $260
buffer $25
spring $5
$290

SOPMOD kit
$265

I am looking at purchasing a UBR for my next rifle. I don't think $215 (DSG) is overpriced at all.
Dustin

My Armalite M4 mil-spec stock kit was $55 shipped. Most commercial and mil-spec M4 kits are now about $50 each. That includes the stock, buffer tube, spring, and buffer.
Link Posted: 7/9/2010 6:26:27 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Hero:
Originally Posted By TonyAngel:
Very sturdy with a rock solid lock up. The downside is that it's relatively heavy, although that may not be a bad thing. It really helps to balance the rifle out, if your rifle is front heavy due to rails and equipment.


+1




+2
Link Posted: 7/9/2010 6:43:37 AM EDT
Did anybody say HEAVY!

Whatever is in it, is denser than LEAD! It is one solid stock though.
Link Posted: 7/9/2010 5:03:55 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Stephen_A:
Originally Posted By MooseForce:
$200 for OD or foliage green at DSG Arms. I love mine and can't wait to have an upper to go with it!

MF



Great price, I just ordered one. It's back ordered but I can wait. Thanks for the info.

I ordered mine a couple weeks ago.

Any idea of when they might be in stock? I haven't gotten around to asking DSG...
Link Posted: 7/9/2010 5:09:23 PM EDT
Originally Posted By M4-AK:
Did anybody say HEAVY!

Whatever is in it, is denser than LEAD! It is one solid stock though.


Metal. That's what's in it.

The complexity of the stock is why it's so expensive. It's not as simple as pouring some polymer into a mold and calling it a day. It's an intricate stock that works perfectly.
Link Posted: 7/9/2010 5:17:12 PM EDT
they are hevey but it works nice on my .50 beowulf
Link Posted: 7/9/2010 7:12:58 PM EDT
There are some available on Ebay right now for $215.50 shipped. AIM Surplus has them for 200 but I don't know if that includes shipping and no black colored ones. My SPR build is complete as soon as my Brown Santa rolls in tomorrow. Yes they are heavy but the concrete table at the range isn't afraid.
Link Posted: 7/9/2010 9:21:33 PM EDT
I got a black one from AIM's $200.01-shipped deal, awhile back.

Haven't gotten to use it yet, though. When I bought it, I was still living in NY. Meaning I had to either use it on pre-ban lower (I don't have one) or pin it in place. Obviously I wasn't going to pin a $200 stock in place.

But now that I'm in SC, I can use it. Just haven't decided what to use it on. Just another reason to build another rifle, right?




FWIW, I don't regret the $200 price tag in the least, and I haven't even gotten to shoot with it yet.
Link Posted: 7/9/2010 9:40:54 PM EDT
Weight wise, how does it compare to the weight of an A2 or a Magpul PRS?
Link Posted: 7/9/2010 9:48:45 PM EDT
Originally Posted By hdbiker1:
Weight wise, how does it compare to the weight of an A2 or a Magpul PRS?


According to Magpul's website:

PRS = 1.85LBS
UBR = 1.48LBS


Not sure how much an A2 weighs. Never handled one.
Link Posted: 7/9/2010 10:29:18 PM EDT
Too heavy, which is why mine is in the ee. All SOPMODs for me.
Link Posted: 7/10/2010 2:17:41 AM EDT
Originally Posted By nf9648:
Too heavy, which is why mine is in the ee. All SOPMODs for me.


Hit the gym.
Link Posted: 7/10/2010 6:47:44 AM EDT
Link Posted: 7/10/2010 6:59:58 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Pro2AinPA:
Originally Posted By nf9648:
Too heavy, which is why mine is in the ee. All SOPMODs for me.


Hit the gym.


Your free to try my workout anytime, hump a 40-80lb hog out of a 600 ft deep gulch with a 12lb rifle strapped to you. Besides than the cool factor of having one of the first UBRs to hit the market, the UBR has nothing positive over what I consider the best stock, other than excess pork.

Link Posted: 7/10/2010 7:25:45 AM EDT
Originally Posted By nf9648:
Originally Posted By Pro2AinPA:
Originally Posted By nf9648:
Too heavy, which is why mine is in the ee. All SOPMODs for me.


Hit the gym.


Your free to try my workout anytime, hump a 40-80lb hog out of a 600 ft deep gulch with a 12lb rifle strapped to you. Besides than the cool factor of having one of the first UBRs to hit the market, the UBR has nothing positive over what I consider the best stock, other than excess pork.



coun·ter·bal·ance: n.

1. A force or influence equally counteracting another.
2. A weight that acts to balance another; a counterpoise or counterweight.

coun·ter·bal·anced, coun·ter·bal·anc·ing, coun·ter·bal·anc·es: tr.v.

1. To act as a counteracting force, influence, or weight to; counterpoise.
2. To oppose with an equal force; offset.
Link Posted: 7/10/2010 10:55:35 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 7/10/2010 11:47:03 AM EDT by BB]
Originally Posted By TRIDENT1982:
Originally Posted By nf9648:
Originally Posted By Pro2AinPA:
Originally Posted By nf9648:
Too heavy, which is why mine is in the ee. All SOPMODs for me.


Hit the gym.


Your free to try my workout anytime, hump a 40-80lb hog out of a 600 ft deep gulch with a 12lb rifle strapped to you. Besides than the cool factor of having one of the first UBRs to hit the market, the UBR has nothing positive over what I consider the best stock, other than excess pork.



coun·ter·bal·ance: n.

1. A force or influence equally counteracting another.
2. A weight that acts to balance another; a counterpoise or counterweight.

coun·ter·bal·anced, coun·ter·bal·anc·ing, coun·ter·bal·anc·es: tr.v.

1. To act as a counteracting force, influence, or weight to; counterpoise.
2. To oppose with an equal force; offset.


Best to remove weight in order to achieve balance. Especially if you are the fulcrum.
Link Posted: 7/10/2010 6:25:56 PM EDT
i have mine, brand new, for sale in EE for $215 shipped right now. AZHONKY
Link Posted: 7/11/2010 4:27:06 AM EDT

Originally Posted By nf9648:
Originally Posted By Pro2AinPA:
Originally Posted By nf9648:
Too heavy, which is why mine is in the ee. All SOPMODs for me.


Hit the gym.


Your free to try my workout anytime, hump a 40-80lb hog out of a 600 ft deep gulch with a 12lb rifle strapped to you. Besides than the cool factor of having one of the first UBRs to hit the market, the UBR has nothing positive over what I consider the best stock, other than excess pork.


I can attest to nf9648's workout. There are some seriously steep mountains in Oahu.
Link Posted: 7/11/2010 5:55:27 AM EDT
Originally Posted By AZHONKY:
i have mine, brand new, for sale in EE for $215 shipped right now. AZHONKY


Or you can buy a brand new one, in your choice of colors from AIM Surplus (a board sponsor) for $199 shipped
Link Posted: 7/11/2010 7:39:40 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 7/11/2010 7:40:33 AM EDT by AZHONKY]
Originally Posted By airgunner:
Originally Posted By AZHONKY:
i have mine, brand new, for sale in EE for $215 shipped right now. AZHONKY


Or you can buy a brand new one, in your choice of colors from AIM Surplus (a board sponsor) for $199 shipped


Or you can't, but thanks for the smart remark: http://www.aimsurplus.com/product.aspx?item=XMAG330Blk&groupid=57

AZHONKY
Link Posted: 7/11/2010 10:55:28 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 7/11/2010 10:57:11 AM EDT by NY_Shooter]
Originally Posted By AZHONKY:
Originally Posted By airgunner:
Originally Posted By AZHONKY:
i have mine, brand new, for sale in EE for $215 shipped right now. AZHONKY


Or you can buy a brand new one, in your choice of colors from AIM Surplus (a board sponsor) for $199 shipped


Or you can't, but thanks for the smart remark: http://www.aimsurplus.com/product.aspx?item=XMAG330Blk&groupid=57

AZHONKY


There's current coupon codes for the $199 pricing:



Current AIM Surplus items affected by coupon code "gundeals". A quick check showed $40-$100 off each item.

Enjoy!
gun-deals.com

code gundeals or DDV3 works for these prices

F1ASGL2161 Russian Arsenal SGL21 Saiga 7.62x39 Rifle $657.95 EditDelete
F1ASGL3161 Russian Arsenal SGL31 Saiga 5.45x39 Rifle $751.95 EditDelete
F1DD20009 Daniel Defense M4V3 .223/5.56 Rifle $1,299.95 EditDelete
XAEROCOP Aero Precision COP Monolithic Upper for AR15 $469.00 EditDelete
XCMMGU2003 CMMG 20" .223/5.56 AR15 Rifle Length Complete Upper Half $499.00 EditDelete
XDD10001 Daniel Defense 7.0 Carbine Omega Rail $219.95 EditDelete
XDD10002 Daniel Defense 9.0 Midlength Omega Rail $259.00 EditDelete
XDD10196 Daniel Defense 14.5" Hammer Forged Barrel w/ FSB $269.00 EditDelete
XDD9067 Daniel Defense 16" M4 Profile Hammer Forged Chrome Lined Barrel $229.95 EditDelete
XDD9081 Daniel Defense 16" Midlength Hammer Forged Barrel $229.95 EditDelete
XMAG307Blk Magpul Gen II PRS Precision Rifle Stock Black $199.95 EditDelete
XMAG330Blk Magpul UBR Adjustable Rifle Stock Black $199.95 EditDelete
XMAG330DKEAR Magpul UBR Adjustable Utility Battle Rifle Stock Dark Earth $199.95 EditDelete
XMAG330ODGRN Magpul UBR Adjustable Rifle Stock OD Green $199.95 EditDelete

http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=2&f=217&t=185369

EDIT: Not sure if those deals include shipping like normal, though.
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