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Posted: 5/4/2007 12:04:02 PM EDT
Hello all,
As many of you know, the SAR (Scope Accessory Rail) has been released with great success. (Btw, I am happy to report the SAR 1 and 3 units are now with some boys over a FT. Bragg getting a great workout!) Red dot BUIS sights were my primary requirement for the SAR. Over the last few years I’ve been working with MANY red dot sights and I have noticed a few shortcomings, enormous price and durability. Over the last few years others and I have shattered a few “plastic units” during room clearing and other high-speed drills to say the least. I also noticed the price of these plastic (and metal) red dot sights going higher and higher over the last several years as well. For the last 9 months I have been working with a manufacturer to get out a new metal red dot sight, the RDP-II. After several prototypes with different mounting solutions and bright LED’s, I am offering the final result!! The new RDP is a machined aluminum housing with a multi coated glass lens and a 3 MOA dot. I’ve painstakingly worked with the LED on the unit and during the brightest environments the 3MOA dot is very bright. The unit works off of a photo sensor and will show indoors with a dimmer dot. The units sensor will not see in the darkest environments without some ambient lighted conditions. Last weekend I officially released the units to all my local LE Dept's, tactical shooting club and here on the ARFCOM EE. I sold out the initial batch in 2 days!! The response has been great and another batch is inbound within two weeks!! To everyone who has ordered from my extensive night vision product line, to the recent addition SAR and now the RDP, a big thanks!! I am glad you all are enjoying the gear!! I will continue to bring you quality gear with da BEST customer support all at a competitive price for your hard earned dollar. The RDP comes standard with the following, ·Mounting base for picatinny or weaver type rails ·Allen Wrench ·Screw Driver for windage, elevation and locking screws ·Win/El Adjustment Dial ·Protective Lens Cap ·Lens Cleaning Cloth ·Manual ·Extra Lithium Battery (One Installed with each unit already) ·Two Extra Mounting Screws (I have included these extra mounting screws for mounting the RDP on the ACOG DOCTOR type bases, i.e. wing protector, etc!) ·One Year Warranty Due to the quantity I have purchased, I am offering the units here on the ARCOM for very special price of $139.00 plus S/H. Here is the RDP-II sales ad. I am also happy to announce for the first time, I am offering a TRULY special package. Any SAR unit purchased with an RDP-II for ONLY $199.00!! I have listed many pics of the SAR units below. The posted EE ad is here SAR Sales Offering I hope you enjoy the latest offering and enjoy the pics and lots of them of course!! Sorry, I STILL can't bring myself to show "studio" pics of my gear. It's all seen and used in the real world! RDP-II Specifications ·Construction – All aluminum housing with multi-coated glass view screen ·Dot Size – 3MOA ·Water Resistant ·Sight Window .8” x .6” ·Dimensions – 1.8” x 1.0” x .9” ·Weight - .9oz ·Parallax Free at 50 yards ·Automatic Brightness Control ·Adjustments – Windage, Elevation via Locking Set Screws Some great indoor and outdoor shots. The LED on the unit is awesome indoors and outdoors! The RDP with the SAR Unit, a GREAT combo to say the least!! The base was made to fit perfectly with the SAR |
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The Blue tint looks very heavy. I know this aids in bright lighting conditions but dang!
My Pride Fowler is about half that tint (or less). Is this a camera/flash effect or is this an accurate representation? |
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No flash was used. Indoor shots seem to accentuate the tint, Vic's picture of it outdoors looks lighter
I talked to Vic about the tint, I later realized that while I'm not used to the tint on the mini red dot, it's been around on other reflex type sights for years: Trijicon's Reflex, S&B Short Dot, and Aimpoint all have some tint. The Reflex has a polarizing cap that can turn the sight picture completely black, so I'm convinced the tint really doesn't matter. |
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First off thanks Duffy for the compliments.....The site is being very well received thus far. I needed to succeed with a durable and economically approach to a red dot site and I think I struck a good balance. It seems many of the red dot sights out there when purchasing a complete package with a base, mount, etc. is spiraling higher and higher for their use; at $300, $400 and $500!...I found this perplexing. As for the tint, indeed it helps with outdoor use and in NO way obscures the image for use indoors. The camera indeed plays a big role with this tint. Another reason, I sometimes hate doing NV through the tube shots at night....The camera gives a false impression at times. Thanks! |
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If it's an actual Doctor mount, the RDP will work. Hope this helps. Vic |
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So would this work on a TA11D with LaRue's LT635?
Thanks, Harley |
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If you have a Doctor base of some sort attached to the ACOG, the RDP will fit. I do not know about what Larue uses on any of their mounts. Hope this helps.
Vic |
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I have a Dr. Optic so this looks very much similar / same. Including the hood as an on/off switch. I would strongly suggest that you add an on/off switch, as that hood will be lost the first time you are in action (whether practical rifle, sandbox, urban, or brush). Once you are without the hood, you have a fixed limited battery life. Less important, an auto-off feature (perhaps after no motion sensed for 2 hours, there are miniature accelerometers you can use now). |
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We attempted to keep the RDP as LOW cost as we could with sacrificing quality. Thus far we think we've achieved this . As for the hood off, our sight will last a VERY long time. I think the Doctor Optic last NUMEROUS months with the hood off. Hope this helps. Vic |
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Just a though but it would be nice if someone offered a side mounted manual rotary switch to control brightness.
I know this would require the sight to be made a bit taller but this would also bring the mini’s into the realm of the Aimpoints/Eotechs. This would also eliminate the main weakness of these kind of sights; completing shutting off in low lighting conditions. Just a thought. |
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The first production units I received, I had the hood off for 4 weeks continuous and then I had to sell it! If I can finally keep one in stock, I can let it sit out for a LOOONG period of time to get a firm number. We are looking at 800+ hours though. Hope this helps.
Vic |
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I have been testing a RDP for a month now. It has been mounted on my AKM, my 6.8 MRP and my Benelli. Currently this unit is mounted on a Benelli M2 that is assigned to a Los Angeles Sheriff Dept SEB K9 deputy. He is the primary product tester on the team and he has been using it for a week now and founf the sight to be as good as the Aimpoint T1 minidot he has for eval two weeks ago. with the head up dsiplay type, it is easiler for the user to locate the dot instead of having to find the dot inside a smaller tube. but in the ebd, the 500 T1 would probably be a stronger unit with longer battery life..
It is really your apple to crave.. you want ultra strong, hellish long battery life.. go with a Aimpoint T1 at 500 plus a unit.. If you need a back up mini red dot, red dot for your pistol, red dot on your shotgun and you are not too worried about the battery life.... this is it. and if you want durable, LaRue Iron dot can be used since this unit basically run a similar mounting configuration as the doctor. hope this helps. And a big thanks to Vic for bring a high quality sight at a low price that everyone can take advantage of it. |
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Thanks Chen, glad my buds over at the LASO are enjoying the gear. SBSO along with SBPD are also playing hard with da RDP! Vic |
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New batch RDP's are inbound! Lot's of folks on the send list thus far. Thanks guys!
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Vic,
I need ASAP #4 34mm SAR plus RDP-II , pls can you LMK a waiting time ? Thanks, PP out |
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RDP this week and 34mm in approx 4. The SAR4's will be a few $$ more ($10-15) due to much less quantity being manufactured versus the SAR 1 and 3's. Vern...Please send me an email to confirm. Thanks guys, Vic |
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Da Eagle has Landed folks!!! A factory fresh BIG batch of RDP's have arrived today!! I will be processing the huge batch of back orders and pre-payments today and tomorrow. Thank you all for the orders! |
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Nevermind - I'm the dumbass that didn't read the whole thread. J223... |
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IM sent back at ya! Thanks John! Vic |
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ALRIGHTY!!! Da Eagle has landed!!! I have processed all the folks wo have pre-paid a few ago. Their RDP's will be going out today. For those who have emailed me, I have emailed you all back that the RDP's are NOW IN! Please remember the last batch sold in less than 2 days.
Also, ALL SAR (Scope Accessory Rings) are in as well for that special package. Enjoy the new pic of da SAR and RDP-II! Thanks all! Vic |
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Vic , pls IM me when everything'll be ready for shipment . Thanks, PP out |
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Roger that, just awaiting the SAR 4's. |
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The huge batch of recent arrivals of RDP's are selling extremely well! All backorders were shipped out this week! Some Army types out east got a few samples in the mail this week for some play testing this weekend.
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OK I got to try one of these out and used a Dr Optic for quite a long time. I see several things being posted about this optic I would like to address.
1. The hood is an off switch. This is false. The hood only covers the light sensor and makes the units dot less bright. It is always on. If you put it in your safe when not in use it is the same as having the hood on as the light sensor receives no light. The Dr Optic is the same in this regard. 2. The unit turns off at night. This is false. The unit is quite dim but completely usable at night or in complete darkness. It automatically adjusts to ambient light. The Dr Optic is quite usable at night as well. 3. This unit is brighter than the Dr Optic. False. There are several genrations of Dr Optic sights with varying brightness. I would say they are pretty much equal in brightness. If I had to give a nod I would give it to Dr Optic on their latest generation units. Older generation units could be diffferent. It is so close as to be a wash however. I will say that I was handed this unit and not told what it was at first. I was CERTAIN it was a Dr Optic. Its the same size, materials and construction. The adjustments are even in the same place, the light sensor in the same place, etc. I honestly thought someone removed the silkscreening on a Dr Optic when I first picked it up. The adjustment tools are even the same as the Dr Optic. If you are thinking about one of these optic I would say buy without hesitation. I hope Victor keeps the price where it is. I would like to know the battery life of the unit. It is my only concern. The mount with locking ring was even high quality. I dont know how Victor did it but he has a gold mine with these little sights. |
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Thanks for the review!
The two main differences between the Doctor and the RDP is the mount, body housing fasteners and the lens itself. I have two early versions of the actual doctor. (I guess Gen 1), I even have a few of the ultra $800+ mil-spec version from several years ago. The RDP is slightly brighter than these versions. I have not handled the Gen II Doctors or whatever generation their up to so I do not know what the differences are, except by what you just mentioned, "could be a wash." In the area of the body housing, I wanted to insure the body would fit other ACOG style of mounts that use a doctor base, i.e. why I have included an extra set of screws for this requirment if so desired. Also I am using a 3 MOA dot and we tried MANY varying levels of LED brightness. We had to be VERY careful NOT to distort the dot with too much output. A 7 MOA dot can get away with a higher output. I hope we struck a good balance of quality and price! There is NO reason I needed to charge $300+ for a red dot sight IMHO. I could have also charged over 100 bones for my new SAR units which I chose not to and they will stay at $79.00. Thanks again for the mini-review! Vic |
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The Dr Optic unit I used was Gen II and the Gen III are brighter still. I dont know if they have anything past Gen III as they became so hard to find and expensive my Dr Opic interest kind of trailed off. Kudos to you Vic for offering these at this price. I WILL be buying one.
I just wanted to clarify... these will fit any mount that is set up for a Dr Optic? They fit the Larue scope ring mounts? Do they fit the ACOG mounts for the Dr Optic? This thing just seems too good to be true. |
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They fit all the Trijicon's ACOG mounts that utilize a Doc Op mount and fit perfectly with my SAR's (Scope Accessory Ring Rail). I wanted the this to be the #1 priority for the RDP. I cannot speak for Larue, (they do that well enough at times) so I do not know anything about what Larue utlilizes for their mounts. I also do not need any of their red dot sight scope mounts since I sell a much more versatile SAR unit! Hope this helps. Vic |
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Just to clarify, Which SAR unit do I need to mount on an ACOG? SAR1 or SAR3. Thanks. |
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Sorry if I confused you on this....The SAR units (via the pics) are actually a 30mm or 1" ring with a rail attahed. The SARS are for mounting on a tubed scope or any type tube that has a 30mm or 1" diameter. The RDP will work with any Trijicon ACOG mount that has doctor optics base that they make for the doctor optics mini red dot sight. Hope this helps. |
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Just received my RPD. Fit and finish are perfect, the box it comes in is professional and includes a no-brainer zeroing disk tool thingy and required tools. Very pleased so far and will report back later with range report. Need a riser to use it on my carbine.
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Thanks for the review thus far, the RDP's are really a great mini red dot sight for the money! The ARMS #17DR will work well for your riser needs. Thanks again for the order and I look forward to some pics!! Vic |
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It's here but it's dark outside so these pics will have to do. =(
Here it is hanging off the side of my DSA stg58 via a GG&G offest mount + a YHM 5 slot angle mount. I drilled two holes in the top cover to run a dummy cord. Cover off & ready to go! Sight looks great & is bright! I'll great some daylight pics tomorrow. Was a pleasure to deal with Vic! Thanks again! |
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Great pics of your setup with da RDP! Thanks for the kind words, it was a pleasure doing business with you! Vic |
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Thought I'd post another review. Thanks Josh, very nice Ruger setup!!
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I'm curious, does this unit exhibit the strobing effect like I've seen with the Burris Fastfire?
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I've never seen anything like this you describe with the RDP. Thanks Vic |
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Any off-the-shelf solution (low/reasonable cost) to mounting one of these on an AR?
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Well, they already come with a mount for any FT rail system. Do you have another requirement? Vic |
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