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Posted: 9/30/2007 6:35:08 AM EST
Why is this ammo so much cheaper than others? Where is it made?
Link Posted: 9/30/2007 8:46:07 AM EST

Are you finding it for less than $300/K?
Link Posted: 9/30/2007 9:40:41 AM EST
$312 at Natchez. They say prices are going up. I do not know if this is a sales gimmick or fact.
Link Posted: 9/30/2007 9:48:45 AM EST
Natchez's has Remington UMC for $329.80 and Sellier and Bellot for $312.00/k. Which would you select?
Link Posted: 9/30/2007 9:57:33 AM EST

Originally Posted By jmsfmtex:
Natchez's has Remington UMC for $329.80 and Sellier and Bellot for $312.00/k. Which would you select?



Sellier and Bellot is what i would take between those.
Link Posted: 9/30/2007 5:20:03 PM EST

Originally Posted By 11BDad:
Ah, another Kimber owner.
i145.photobucket.com/albums/r204/lbvpics/Kimber.jpg


We're everywhere, man.

Sometimes I wake up grouchy.
Link Posted: 10/1/2007 11:14:54 AM EST
S&B SS109 is one of the BEST
3184FPS @ 25y SD 14

sd14 is awesome for SS109
Link Posted: 10/11/2007 11:09:43 AM EST
s&b m193 isn't true m193 due to bullet having copper washed steel jacket, won't frag as well as true m193. the velocity is there though. s&b ss109 is the best by far of all types i've tried but can't find it anymore, think it's going to the war zones. i'd rather reload rem. brass though. ymmv
Link Posted: 10/11/2007 11:51:15 AM EST

It's still available by the case online for $300 or so. Just saw it yesterday.
Link Posted: 10/11/2007 12:19:09 PM EST
were @?
Link Posted: 10/12/2007 2:44:38 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/12/2007 2:46:25 AM EST by FMJ]

Originally Posted By offroader333:
s&b m193 isn't true m193 due to bullet having copper washed steel jacket, won't frag as well as true m193. the velocity is there though. s&b ss109 is the best by far of all types i've tried but can't find it anymore, think it's going to the war zones. i'd rather reload rem. brass though. ymmv


I was told by Chuck S. that M193 spec Doesnt call for JUST COPPER JACKET

so steel or copper would Qualify



I do agree that copper is better

and the cannaclure helps out too
Link Posted: 10/12/2007 11:25:30 AM EST

Originally Posted By globe512:
You are correct that I have no experience with S and B rifle ammo. I loved their pistol ammo in my Kimber.

Over my last hundred rounds of UMC I've been getting 2 MOA at 100 yards, which is about as well as I can manage to shoot. It's surprising to me that UMC is this accurate.

Now reports above are that S and B is hotter than UMC. If it can also keep 5 shots inside 1.5 inches at 100 yards, then I'll be impressed. I certainly can't do that with Prvi 55 or 62gr loads. They just aren't as accurate as UMC in my guns.

Of course, the indoor range where I do my accuracy shooting won't allow bi-metal bullets, so I'm SOL anyway in that respect.


WOW! 100 yd. indoor range?
Link Posted: 10/12/2007 11:49:10 AM EST
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Originally Posted By conman:
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Originally Posted By globe512:
You are correct that I have no experience with S and B rifle ammo. I loved their pistol ammo in my Kimber.

Over my last hundred rounds of UMC I've been getting 2 MOA at 100 yards, which is about as well as I can manage to shoot. It's surprising to me that UMC is this accurate.

Now reports above are that S and B is hotter than UMC. If it can also keep 5 shots inside 1.5 inches at 100 yards, then I'll be impressed. I certainly can't do that with Prvi 55 or 62gr loads. They just aren't as accurate as UMC in my guns.

Of course, the indoor range where I do my accuracy shooting won't allow bi-metal bullets, so I'm SOL anyway in that respect.




WOW! 100 yd. indoor range?


Ditto on the WOW! Where is this??
Link Posted: 10/12/2007 2:52:43 PM EST
fmj, ya, if there wasn't a cannalure on m193 it wouldn't frag very well considering thats the weak point it breaks @ when it gets sideways above aprox. 2,600 f.p.s. despite the spec. if you buy m193 for the frag. effect your wasting your $ on steel jacketed m193 i.m.h.o. s&b is the only steel jacket m193 i know of.
Link Posted: 10/12/2007 3:02:15 PM EST
They make good shot shells too .

The 00 Buck rds. have 12 pellets to the rd. instead of the normal 9 . They make the fired length of the 2 3/4 " as loaded by using a plastic disc at the crimp and the extra alows another "shelf" of 3 to be in the usual star crimp room .

My M1 Benelli loves them .
Link Posted: 10/12/2007 3:45:20 PM EST
i bought a 200 rd. pack of there 00 buck awhile back, i agree it's good ammo but there longer than domestic 2 3/4 shells. my mossy fits 6 std. 2 3/4 shells but only 5 of these 2 3/4 shells, if i knew that in adv. i would have just bought 3''. i shot a few box's of there .303 brit. rds. today & was amazed how little powder residue was left inside, they almost looked unfired.
Link Posted: 10/12/2007 3:55:51 PM EST



WOW! 100 yd. indoor range?


Ditto on the WOW! Where is this??


It's Davis Shooting Sports in Goshen, NY. It's $25 per hour.
Nice fast target carriers, decent lighting and ventilation. Perfect for ammo testing and sighting in.

No rapid fire, no 50 BMG, no moving guns between benches, somewhat inconsistent hours as well.
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