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Posted: 8/30/2004 5:46:05 AM EST
What scope should I put on my SPR? I am looking looking for something compact, w/ target turrets, mil-dot reticle, and of course rugged. All suggestions will be taken into consideration. Thanks.
Hispeedal1
Link Posted: 8/30/2004 5:58:59 AM EST
an spr, in my opinion needs a 2.5-10X LR M3 loopy
Link Posted: 8/30/2004 6:00:55 AM EST
[Last Edit: 8/30/2004 6:01:11 AM EST by photoman]

Originally Posted By avengeusa:
an spr, in my opinion needs a 2.5-10X LR M3 loopy



I.O.R 2.5-10x42 built like a tank.
Link Posted: 8/30/2004 7:14:57 AM EST

Originally Posted By hispeedal2:
What scope should I put on my SPR? I am looking looking for something compact, w/ target turrets, mil-dot reticle, and of course rugged. All suggestions will be taken into consideration. Thanks.
Hispeedal1



You pretty much described the Leupold MR/T M1 or M3.

Q: Why is your username "hispeedal2", but you sign off as "highspeedal1"??
Link Posted: 8/30/2004 7:15:27 AM EST
I am thinking something smaller than ten power. Like a fixed 6,7, or 8 power. Also a smaller OBJ lens.
Link Posted: 8/30/2004 7:18:06 AM EST


Q: Why is your username "hispeedal2", but you sign off as "highspeedal1"??


Hispeedal1 is my username for pretty much everything else that I type in a username for.
Link Posted: 8/30/2004 7:27:31 AM EST
Why a fixed power scope, they can be limiting at shorter ranges.

And 42mm objective ain't all that big.

You could go a 3-9x38(or is it 36) or a 2-7 or something if you want.


Avengeusa whats the specs on that lupy? Whats the clic value, total MOA adjustment and all that?
Link Posted: 8/30/2004 7:33:50 AM EST
This particular rifle will not be used over 500m. On average it will probably see more use 300-400m. I am going for a lightweight design and a more compact scope.
Link Posted: 8/30/2004 7:47:14 AM EST
My SPR build will probably get an illuminated Leupold 1.5-5.
Link Posted: 8/30/2004 7:54:35 AM EST

Originally Posted By innocent_bystander:
My SPR build will probably get an illuminated Leupold 1.5-5.




That is about what I am looking for.
How large is the OBJ lens and is it available with mil-dot reticle?
Link Posted: 8/30/2004 8:04:47 AM EST
[Last Edit: 8/30/2004 8:17:09 AM EST by gotm4]
Nightforce all the way! I like the NP-1RR reticle. I'm putting a 12x-42x 56mm on my wifes AR-50 with the NP-1RR reticle.
Link Posted: 8/30/2004 8:09:13 AM EST

Originally Posted By hispeedal2:

Originally Posted By innocent_bystander:
My SPR build will probably get an illuminated Leupold 1.5-5.




That is about what I am looking for.
How large is the OBJ lens and is it available with mil-dot reticle?



For the 300-400 range there really ain't a need for mil-dots. With a 50 yard zero yer pretty much point and shoot to 225m give or take. Holdover wouldn't be to much more difficult for the exta 75-100 yards.


Didn't know lupy had a 1.5-5 illuminated. Gunna have to hit their site and check it out. I use a 1-4X20 on my M4 clone. I like it but an illuminated retical would be nice for low light. But I might just go with a 1.1-4 IOR don;t know yet.
Link Posted: 8/30/2004 8:18:11 AM EST
[Last Edit: 8/30/2004 10:47:51 AM EST by Dave_A]
10x AO is the 'standard' for 'sniper' weapons...

Good enough for the M-24, good enough for...

Remember, the purpose of a 'SPR' sort of gun is long range accuracy, a sub-10x (max) scope is severely undermagnified....

But then again, if you're going to shoot M193 or M855 out of it (a/o 'heavier' loads)...
Link Posted: 8/30/2004 8:20:10 AM EST
go loopy, price is right and the .gov uses them
Link Posted: 8/30/2004 8:25:41 AM EST


VX-III 1.5-5x20mm Illuminated Reticle



If you want target turrets and a mil-dot I'm sure www.premierreticles.com can set you up.

Product Specifications

Actual Magnification: 1.5(1.5x) 4.5(5x)
Length (in): 9.3
Eyepiece Length (in): 3.2
Objective Length (in): -------
Objective Diameter (in): 1.0
Eyepiece Diameter (in): 1.6
Tube Diameter: 30mm
Weight: 14.0 oz. / 397 grams
Eye Relief (in): 4.4(1.5x) 3.6(5x)
Eye Relief (mm): 113(1.5x) 93(5x)
Obj. Lens Diameter: 0.8in / 20mm
Max. Adjustment @ 100 yds (in): 65
Max. Adjustment @ 100 m (cm): 181
FOV @ 100 yds (ft): 65.7(1.5x) 23.7(5x)
FOV @ 100 m (m): 21.9(1.5x) 7.9(5x)
Ring Spacing
Max. Mount Ring Spacing
(in): 5.8
Front Ring Space (in): 2.1
Rear Ring Space (in): 2.5

Link Posted: 8/30/2004 8:28:53 AM EST

Originally Posted By photoman:

Originally Posted By hispeedal2:

Originally Posted By innocent_bystander:
My SPR build will probably get an illuminated Leupold 1.5-5.




That is about what I am looking for.
How large is the OBJ lens and is it available with mil-dot reticle?



For the 300-400 range there really ain't a need for mil-dots. With a 50 yard zero yer pretty much point and shoot to 225m give or take. Holdover wouldn't be to much more difficult for the exta 75-100 yards.


Didn't know lupy had a 1.5-5 illuminated. Gunna have to hit their site and check it out. I use a 1-4X20 on my M4 clone. I like it but an illuminated retical would be nice for low light. But I might just go with a 1.1-4 IOR don;t know yet.




OK I see your point about not needing mildot for rangefinding but I was going to use the Mil dots for hold over points. Maybe I will have better finding a compact with a BDC instead. I will take a look at the IORs. Does anyone have a webpage?
Link Posted: 8/30/2004 8:34:36 AM EST
[Last Edit: 8/30/2004 8:36:26 AM EST by photoman]

Originally Posted By hispeedal2:

Originally Posted By photoman:

Originally Posted By hispeedal2:

Originally Posted By innocent_bystander:
My SPR build will probably get an illuminated Leupold 1.5-5.




That is about what I am looking for.
How large is the OBJ lens and is it available with mil-dot reticle?



For the 300-400 range there really ain't a need for mil-dots. With a 50 yard zero yer pretty much point and shoot to 225m give or take. Holdover wouldn't be to much more difficult for the exta 75-100 yards.


Didn't know lupy had a 1.5-5 illuminated. Gunna have to hit their site and check it out. I use a 1-4X20 on my M4 clone. I like it but an illuminated retical would be nice for low light. But I might just go with a 1.1-4 IOR don;t know yet.




OK I see your point about not needing mildot for rangefinding but I was going to use the Mil dots for hold over points. Maybe I will have better finding a compact with a BDC instead. I will take a look at the IORs. Does anyone have a webpage?



www.valdada.com/ check around but I thought I heard something about them adding BDC to the 1.1-4x26 but not sure if it happened or not. The site I gave you is not the greatest for info. but it has the scopes and rings and shit all listed on it.
Link Posted: 8/30/2004 8:52:22 AM EST
I think I like the IOR 4x24 Tactical with the Druganov reticle. If I understand it right, It is geared for a 62 gn. round. Has anyone ever shot out to any distance using this cam system with XM193? How close was the cam system?
Link Posted: 8/30/2004 8:55:26 AM EST

Originally Posted By hispeedal2:
I think I like the IOR 4x24 Tactical with the Druganov reticle. If I understand it right, It is geared for a 62 gn. round. Has anyone ever shot out to any distance using this cam system with XM193? How close was the cam system?



You should be able to get it for both 7.62X51 and 5.56x45. I haven't used one. I'm not big on fixed power scopes unless it's a red dot scope so I can;t help you out on that one.
Link Posted: 8/30/2004 9:02:56 AM EST

Originally Posted By photoman:

Originally Posted By hispeedal2:
I think I like the IOR 4x24 Tactical with the Druganov reticle. If I understand it right, It is geared for a 62 gn. round. Has anyone ever shot out to any distance using this cam system with XM193? How close was the cam system?



You should be able to get it for both 7.62X51 and 5.56x45. I haven't used one. I'm not big on fixed power scopes unless it's a red dot scope so I can;t help you out on that one.



The 5.56 version is geared for a 62gn round. So my question is has anyone tried that cam with a 55 gn bullet and what are the results?
Link Posted: 8/30/2004 10:15:18 AM EST

Originally Posted By hispeedal2:

Originally Posted By photoman:

Originally Posted By hispeedal2:
I think I like the IOR 4x24 Tactical with the Druganov reticle. If I understand it right, It is geared for a 62 gn. round. Has anyone ever shot out to any distance using this cam system with XM193? How close was the cam system?



You should be able to get it for both 7.62X51 and 5.56x45. I haven't used one. I'm not big on fixed power scopes unless it's a red dot scope so I can;t help you out on that one.



The 5.56 version is geared for a 62gn round. So my question is has anyone tried that cam with a 55 gn bullet and what are the results?



Tried it with 77gr and it was close, had to adjust back 2-3 clicks from the marked setting at 600yds for proper elevation. Drop for a 77gr bullet at 600 yds (with a zero at 100yds) is 100in. Doesn't mean squat for 55gr loads, but if you can find the drop of a 55gr bullet at the same range you may be able to fudge it in and make note of it somewhere so that you can refer to it later. Probably take some playing with and documenting to get exact numbers, though.
Link Posted: 8/30/2004 10:18:21 AM EST
Thanks Mongo1- I guess it will be similar with 55gn.- I'll just have to try and see and take notes.
Link Posted: 8/30/2004 11:59:37 AM EST
Nightforce NXS 2.5 - 10X. I personally like the NP1 reticle but they have several to choose from. I believe these are the PERFECT scope for an SPR. So long as they ride in a LaRue SPR scope mount anyway. If you look in MSTN's industry section he has an ad for them. They are really awesome.
Link Posted: 9/1/2004 5:16:46 PM EST
I use alot of 6x42 and 2.5x10x42 IOR`s and have had tremendous success. NO FAILURES EVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 I cannot say that about Leupold.
Red
Link Posted: 9/1/2004 5:46:36 PM EST
I bought a Super Sniper 10x for mine and I regret it...

It's a great clear accurate scope mind you, but it's not flexible enough.... I envision my SPR as a general purpose rifle that I could use out to 600 yards on a target, but I'd also like to be able to use it to quickly engage targets from 50 yards in. Thats why I'm going to probably get the Night force 2.5-10x scope (in my recently purchased Larue scope mount). For now I've a 3x compact ACOG to use, but that's going on my brother's gun once I finish it.

My point is that you can get too carried away with magification, and a variable power scope is much better for the real world use of a SPR
Link Posted: 9/2/2004 3:24:28 AM EST
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