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Posted: 9/30/2008 8:59:45 PM EST
Has anyone ever built a retro-ish AR in a caliber other than 5.56 or 7.62? I'm thinking of something like a 653 look alike in .243 or 6.8, something like that.

I'm more curious than anything else.
Link Posted: 9/30/2008 9:36:32 PM EST
just .22lr so far...

There's a few 9mm XM177 variants out there too.
Link Posted: 10/1/2008 1:23:12 AM EST
I'm in the process of building a 609 SBR in 6.8. Should be the cat's meow.
Link Posted: 10/1/2008 3:29:55 AM EST
Here is what I'm working towards. It's a 6.8SPC. I think I'm going to call it a model 668 (unless there already is one). Anybody know?

I have most of the bits and pieces. I just need some barrel work done.... and I have to decide if it's going to have a forward assist or be a slickside.

GhostRing was kind enough to whip this pic up for me.

Link Posted: 10/1/2008 4:01:46 AM EST
It's possible. I did an A1 in 7mm Benchrest for a friend some years back. Numrich barrel blank + AR extension; Clymer reamed chamber; 7.65 bolt; modified mag. Haven't had any complaints...I haven't heard anything from him, in fact...I married his girlfriend...
Link Posted: 10/1/2008 5:04:54 AM EST

Originally Posted By postino:
It's possible. I did an A1 in 7mm Benchrest for a friend some years back. Numrich barrel blank + AR extension; Clymer reamed chamber; 7.65 bolt; modified mag. Haven't had any complaints...I haven't heard anything from him, in fact...I married his girlfriend...




Lets see...you build someone a tack-driver, then you marry his girlfriend?
Link Posted: 10/1/2008 5:11:34 AM EST

Originally Posted By postino:
Haven't had any complaints...I haven't heard anything from him, in fact...I married his girlfriend...


Not about the gun, but I am thinking that he might have at least one complaint.
Link Posted: 10/1/2008 5:53:47 AM EST
I read the thread title and was hoping for some SPIW action!!!
Link Posted: 10/1/2008 7:16:49 AM EST
I did a pseudo-retro in .45ACP...

Link Posted: 10/1/2008 7:41:46 AM EST

Originally Posted By mentalstampede:
I did a pseudo-retro in .45ACP...


Is that a store-bought lower, or one of Justin's AR45 lowers???

With a little barrel work, you could make a DOE 45 out of that...
Link Posted: 10/1/2008 7:43:14 AM EST

Originally Posted By mentalstampede:
I did a pseudo-retro in .45ACP...


Woot??
I've never really been interested in the 9mm carbines, but .45ACP??? Never heard of that.
How does it run? Hiccup, burp, fart, or scalded cat raped ape,etc...?
That sounds like one of those, Why didn't I think of that?? deals.
Need more tech info!!!
Link Posted: 10/1/2008 8:04:09 AM EST

Originally Posted By mentalstampede:
I did a pseudo-retro in .45ACP...

i18.photobucket.com/albums/b114/mentalstampede/Guns/Picture20039_e01.jpg


DAMMIT!!! Looks like mine! Except I have the four position EA stock, flat slip ring & the 5.5" Oly fake moderator. Oh & yours has a mag catch, Mitch Jones lost mine. I'm fixin to correct that today.
Link Posted: 10/1/2008 9:12:18 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/1/2008 9:24:45 AM EST by mentalstampede]

Originally Posted By postino:

Originally Posted By mentalstampede:
I did a pseudo-retro in .45ACP...


Is that a store-bought lower, or one of Justin's AR45 lowers???

With a little barrel work, you could make a DOE 45 out of that...


It's a CNC/Khalan lower, but out of the first batch that was on time and in spec unlike the rest.



I thought about doing it DOE style, but decided to stay non-nfa, at least for now. It's got a flat-top, so I can't say it's retro in the strictest sense, but it is a lot of fun. This thing really makes me wish I had a DIAS.

It runs like a raped ape, I'm planning on hanging an integral suppressor on it at some point, but that's on the backburner, so it's staying retro until then.

@Beel: Check out this thread for info on .45 conversions.
Link Posted: 10/1/2008 11:43:51 AM EST
I'm feeling better now I see you have a flat top with a handle. Still a nice looking AR45.
Link Posted: 10/1/2008 12:01:09 PM EST
I see I'm not alone. I was just thinking how nice would an XM177 in .458 Socom or .50 Beowolf be? Something light and compact with a little wham to it. Something to work close in with. If I could only have an SBR here in Iowa.

Something that says "Buenos Dias! Come on in! The doors already off it's hinges, and I've set the porch on fire!"
Link Posted: 10/1/2008 1:31:05 PM EST
A 607 clone in .458 SOCOM would be the cat's ass.
Link Posted: 10/1/2008 2:15:01 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/1/2008 2:15:47 PM EST by my65pan]
Disregard the FA and magazine but this is a mock-up of the 45acp build I should have completed in the next few weeks. The tax stamp and lower are already here. I need to buy some more grease gun mags to modify for it though.
Link Posted: 10/1/2008 2:24:57 PM EST

Originally Posted By my65pan:
Disregard the FA and magazine but this is a mock-up of the 45acp build I should have completed in the next few weeks.


A DOE45M231???

It's pretty cool...
Link Posted: 10/1/2008 3:52:22 PM EST

Originally Posted By postino:
A DOE45M231???

Parts is parts.
Link Posted: 10/1/2008 3:55:25 PM EST

Originally Posted By my65pan:
Disregard the FA and magazine but this is a mock-up of the 45acp build I should have completed in the next few weeks. The tax stamp and lower are already here. I need to buy some more grease gun mags to modify for it though.
i98.photobucket.com/albums/l260/my65pan/000_0743.jpg


That is cool. What lower are you using for it?
Link Posted: 10/1/2008 4:14:08 PM EST

Originally Posted By mentalstampede:

Originally Posted By my65pan:
Disregard the FA and magazine but this is a mock-up of the 45acp build I should have completed in the next few weeks. The tax stamp and lower are already here. I need to buy some more grease gun mags to modify for it though.
i98.photobucket.com/albums/l260/my65pan/000_0743.jpg


That is cool. What lower are you using for it?

A Nodak A1. The upper and lower in the above picture have already been turned into other builds.
Link Posted: 10/1/2008 4:32:13 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/1/2008 4:38:24 PM EST by Thatguy96]

Originally Posted By crackedcornish:
I think I'm going to call it a model 668 (unless there already is one). Anybody know?

Not that I'm aware of. But one never really knows for sure. 656 is the highest 600-series number I'm aware of though.
Link Posted: 10/1/2008 5:00:46 PM EST

Originally Posted By my65pan:

Originally Posted By mentalstampede:

Originally Posted By my65pan:
Disregard the FA and magazine but this is a mock-up of the 45acp build I should have completed in the next few weeks. The tax stamp and lower are already here. I need to buy some more grease gun mags to modify for it though.
i98.photobucket.com/albums/l260/my65pan/000_0743.jpg


That is cool. What lower are you using for it?

A Nodak A1. The upper and lower in the above picture have already been turned into other builds.


Whoa! How do you plan on cramming grease-gun magazines into a standard lower? Are you modifying the mags somehow?
Link Posted: 10/2/2008 6:24:38 AM EST
7.62x39 - All colt SP1, came as flattop but I backslid to an A1 receiver.

Link Posted: 10/2/2008 6:34:14 AM EST


7.62x39 - All colt SP1, came as flattop but I backslid to an A1 receiver.

Link Posted: 10/2/2008 8:41:11 AM EST
Link Posted: 10/2/2008 9:41:46 AM EST

Originally Posted By mentalstampede:

Originally Posted By my65pan:

Originally Posted By mentalstampede:

Originally Posted By my65pan:
Disregard the FA and magazine but this is a mock-up of the 45acp build I should have completed in the next few weeks. The tax stamp and lower are already here. I need to buy some more grease gun mags to modify for it though.
i98.photobucket.com/albums/l260/my65pan/000_0743.jpg


That is cool. What lower are you using for it?

A Nodak A1. The upper and lower in the above picture have already been turned into other builds.


Whoa! How do you plan on cramming grease-gun magazines into a standard lower? Are you modifying the mags somehow?

Here's a picture of one of my modified GG mags. I had to squeeze down the body slightly, and shave the follower to make it fit in the magwell.
Link Posted: 10/3/2008 5:37:46 PM EST
Here's a photo of my lower with a mag in it and another of the GG mag modified by Dalphon that I bought from a member here. The "spine extension" in the foreground is one I made to modify more GG mags with.


Link Posted: 10/11/2008 10:36:09 AM EST
Paging Globemaster...
Link Posted: 10/16/2008 3:11:20 PM EST

Originally Posted By JS98010:
Paging Globemaster...



who me

yeah I’ve done a few AR15 variants … my latest build is a ‘Retro’ish’ XM-177 it’s built on a .221R Barrel, I call this build a ARK-15

XM-177 Retro Parts List
• Olympic Arms SS .221R barrel assembly 1:8 twist rate.
• Olympic Arms 5.45x39mm BCG-Kit w/ bolt and firing pin.
• A1 upper receiver w/ tear drop forward assist and w/o case deflector. *
• Olympic Arms barrel 16in / cut to 11.5in (pinned and welded) with 5.5in. “Slotted” Flash Hider.
• Gas hole on the barrel will be opened up .002 larger.
• SNS MAX-15 Skull lower receiver.
• Olympic Arms (LPK).
• CAR type (3) position collapsible buttstock. *
• A1 USGI pistol grip *
• Triangle style handguards w/ aluminum liner. *
• Flat-Style Delta ring *

( * ) denotes used part:


A1 upper receiver w/ tear drop forward assist.




CAR style (3) position collapsible buttstock.




SNS MAX-15 Skull lower.





Retro’ish XM177 lower assembly




Old School Triangle type handguards w/ liner.










I also had this (old style) U.S. Air Force emblem laser engraved on my Retro’ish lower … this work was preformed by a local Trophy Shop.











note the R stamp marking on the bolt just below the cam-pin location, and also note the modified firing pin tip in the photo above, as it’s been slightly trimmed back in order to lengthen the tip so it can strike the deeper set primers on this imported ammunition.




“a very unique carbine with a little something different under the hood”



















The C/Products® 5.45x39mm SS … I ordered this (30) round AR15 variant magazine three months ago and it finally arrived; I suspect that this magazine is going to be much more reliable and functional than using the 6.8SPC that the carbine is currently utilizing.























Link Posted: 10/17/2008 12:48:16 PM EST
I finished my 45ACP AR this afternoon. It looks sweet, and seems to function as it should. We'll see how it shoots soon.
Link Posted: 10/17/2008 1:47:48 PM EST
+1 for "retro-ish" builds .
think about it,,if old equals obsolete, then why does marlin still sell lever guns?
if it fits your needs,,,build it.
Link Posted: 10/17/2008 3:07:34 PM EST
I don't beleive old equals obsolete at all. I prefer older equipment of all sorts. Old guns, old cars, old houses, old radios, you name it. My daily driver vehicle is 40 years old and I love it. It has things I understand and can fix, like a carb, and points and condenser ignition.
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