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Posted: 8/24/2004 9:07:45 AM EDT
I debated the merits of the Bushmaster Varminter vs the RRA Varminter, both with 24" barrels. I think I have decided on the Bushy, due to the 1/9 barrel that will be a bit more versatile on ammo, already fluted barrel, and the whole thing is parked (more tactical). I want to use it for varmints at long ranges, or whatever 'countersniping' my compter chair commando lifestyle will require. I will use a standard 20" govt rifle for anything around 200 yds, I want the varminter for ranges beyond that. I have used Leupolds in the past and been very happy with them. I would like the scope to cost as much as the rifle, but not too much more if possible. I have always been into irons for military rifles, so help me out with rings and mounts etc... THANKS!
Link Posted: 8/26/2004 10:48:14 AM EDT
67 views and no replies.....I guess I will get the bushnell
Link Posted: 8/26/2004 10:55:38 AM EDT
maybe check out nikkon scopes
Link Posted: 8/26/2004 10:59:49 AM EDT
I'm very partial to Leupolds myself.
Link Posted: 8/26/2004 11:20:44 AM EDT
FWIW, (my first view of this post, btw) your somewhat contradicting yourself, first ya say this:

I want to use it for varmints at long ranges

followed by this:

I have used Leupolds in the past and been very happy with them,

then ya close with this in your second post:

I guess I will get the bushnell

As I only know one brand of scopes for long range shooting, the Leupold, and it appears you are willing to spend as much as the rifle, which would probably get ya a good Leupold, why would you buy a Bushnell, which although probably a fine scope, has no where near the kind of following of a Leupold when it comes to long range accuracy???????

No flaming intended here, notice I didn't even comment on the 1/9 vs 1/8 and the "versatile on ammo"
issue, which is somewhat iffy too, especially where long ranges are invloved. (long ranges are 500-1000 yards IMO)

Perhaps others felt the same way, it's kind of puzzling, your post that is......., btw get the Leupy!

Link Posted: 8/26/2004 12:08:46 PM EDT
Don't really know how much the Bushy varminter is, but if you want the scope to cost as much as the rifle there are plenty of choices. Especially the Luepy line, Nikon's or the SS (good price) from SWFA.
Link Posted: 8/26/2004 2:55:52 PM EDT
Link Posted: 8/26/2004 3:34:49 PM EDT
I have a Bushy Varminter and put a Tasco Super Sniper 10x on it, it's a great combination.
Link Posted: 8/26/2004 5:38:39 PM EDT
I have a Nikon UCC Monarch 6.5-20x44 on my Bushy Varminter mounted in Leupold QRW medium rings on top of the supplied riser blocks....I really like my Nikon and all my other scopes are Leupolds.
Link Posted: 8/26/2004 6:50:31 PM EDT
I just got turned on to the Nightforce NXS scopes. More specific the 2.5 -10x illuminated NP1 reticle. I would say either that one or a Leupy MR/T M3. As for the mount, there is only one choice I would go with and that is LaRue Tactical They have a dual throw lever cantilever scope mount that is just awesome. Best mount on the planet.
Link Posted: 8/26/2004 6:56:25 PM EDT
Went Sage Rat shooting in Oregon this spring with my buddies and they all had the Weaver 4x16-42 scopes with the fine crosshair and they were great. I'll be getting one of those of the Nikon 6.5x20 - 44 with the target dot. I've used both and they are both bright and clear.
Link Posted: 8/26/2004 10:16:20 PM EDT
Leupold or Nightforce. Don't even think about anything less if you want good glass.

Link Posted: 8/26/2004 11:52:37 PM EDT
I was joking about the Bushnell.....sheesh.

As to magnification, 3-10 variable is what I had in mind.

As to barrel twist, the 1/8 barrel on the rra would be better for the heavy bullets, I know this, but the really light stuff would do better in the 1/9. I want to be able to shoot the cheap 40 grn remington value packs if I can't afford Black Hills.

The last time anyone in my house bought a scope, it was before the AWB was passed and at the time, Tasco was thought of as a cheapy brand. Yet I have heard many positive comments on the Super Sniper scopes. Hmm.

This is the one I think I will get...
Link Posted: 8/27/2004 12:27:31 AM EDT
Link Posted: 8/27/2004 12:33:49 AM EDT
Link Posted: 8/27/2004 1:45:07 AM EDT
Excellent choice, but don't get it from CTD, try here instead, believe they'll save ya a few bucks: www.premierreticles.com/?uid=5465&page=1754, ya might even check out the newer Gen II recticle or going up a notch to the 4.5x14x40mm.

Link Posted: 8/27/2004 1:51:39 AM EDT
My first pick for your rifle woud be a SpringField Armory scope that has the hash marks out to something like 600 yards for your specific caliber. Leupold just came out with a new reticle for their VariX-III that is essentially the same thing.

Personally, I spend more money on optics than most do on guns.
Link Posted: 8/27/2004 8:47:56 AM EDT
I think you may want a little more magnification than a 3.5-10 for varmint past 200 yards. Certianly will not give you enough power for those at the 400 yard range.

I have two Leupold VX-III 6.5-20X40 LR on my varmint guns. Cost around $500.
Link Posted: 8/27/2004 9:14:19 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/27/2004 9:22:27 AM EDT by TheSaint2004]
I have a cheap BSA Mil-Dot Illuminated 6-24 Scope, and I love it. The only problem is the clicks are 1/8 which can be a bitch if you adjust wind and elevation alot. When I shoot at 600 yards with my Bushmaster Varminter it took awhile get the elevation up, but it was cheap. And it keeps it's zero. Now I just use this for target shooting. I strongly suggest this scope. I got it from SWFA for about $100.
Link Posted: 8/27/2004 11:36:09 AM EDT
I too am about to buy a scope for a 24 inch AR-15 mines a RRA upper and a Bushy lower I have larrowed my field down to a weaver 6-24x42 and and a sightron of the same power but I am limited to only 350 for a scope but if the sky was the limit I would get the best LEUPOLD in the 6-24 power I could find.
Link Posted: 8/27/2004 5:51:31 PM EDT
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