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Link Posted: 11/27/2018 6:26:37 PM EST
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Originally Posted By lt1_sport:
Anybody know if teams are using ODG magpul grips?
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Second pic ThRob posted sure looks like an OD MOE grip
Link Posted: 11/27/2018 6:57:08 PM EST
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Originally Posted By seamasterpro:
Second pic ThRob posted sure looks like an OD MOE grip
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Originally Posted By seamasterpro:
Originally Posted By lt1_sport:
Anybody know if teams are using ODG magpul grips?
Second pic ThRob posted sure looks like an OD MOE grip
Looks like an OD MIAD to me (there’s a seam), though I’ll admit that I may be seeing what I want to see.

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Link Posted: 11/27/2018 8:00:20 PM EST
My ODG Federal hasn't shown up yet. But these have.


Link Posted: 11/27/2018 8:44:28 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Sputnik556:

Looks like an OD MIAD to me (there’s a seam), though I’ll admit that I may be seeing what I want to see.

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i wont lie, that looks pretty close to an ergo grip.
Link Posted: 11/27/2018 9:55:45 PM EST
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Originally Posted By wissota4:
i wont lie, that looks pretty close to an ergo grip.
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Originally Posted By wissota4:
Originally Posted By Sputnik556:

Looks like an OD MIAD to me (there’s a seam), though I’ll admit that I may be seeing what I want to see.

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https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/371851/6312B5BD-966D-4DDC-A68E-DC814A71E29E_jpeg-753162.JPG
i wont lie, that looks pretty close to an ergo grip.
I was thinking Tango Down
Link Posted: 11/27/2018 10:03:09 PM EST
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Originally Posted By ThePitt:

I was thinking Tango Down
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The angle of that dangle makes me think Tango Down as well
Link Posted: 11/28/2018 1:01:04 AM EST
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Originally Posted By ThePitt:
I was thinking Tango Down
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Originally Posted By wissota4:
Originally Posted By Sputnik556:

Looks like an OD MIAD to me (there’s a seam), though I’ll admit that I may be seeing what I want to see.

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https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/371851/6312B5BD-966D-4DDC-A68E-DC814A71E29E_jpeg-753162.JPG
i wont lie, that looks pretty close to an ergo grip.
I was thinking Tango Down
It looks like an Ergo to me, but I wish it was a Magpul grip. I do think that there will be a lot a leeway on grips for the FBI regional builds though because they seem to be mostly new replacement uppers on old department lowers.
But I could be way off  ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Link Posted: 11/28/2018 4:47:37 AM EST
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What day did you order them?  I’m still “processing” and ordered my OD MK16 on the 23rd.
Link Posted: 11/28/2018 5:26:04 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Smurgeon:
What day did you order them?  I’m still “processing” and ordered my OD MK16 on the 23rd.
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Originally Posted By Smurgeon:
What day did you order them?  I’m still “processing” and ordered my OD MK16 on the 23rd.
I ordered mine on the 22nd, and I’m still processing as well
Link Posted: 11/28/2018 5:31:25 AM EST
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Originally Posted By ThePitt:
I was thinking Tango Down
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Originally Posted By wissota4:
Originally Posted By Sputnik556:

Looks like an OD MIAD to me (there’s a seam), though I’ll admit that I may be seeing what I want to see.

ETA:
https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/371851/6312B5BD-966D-4DDC-A68E-DC814A71E29E_jpeg-753162.JPG
i wont lie, that looks pretty close to an ergo grip.
I was thinking Tango Down
The backstrap doesn’t look like a tango down to me, it appears to curve far up on the lower receiver. None of the TD grips I’m aware of do that. I could be wrong though, very difficult to make out.
Link Posted: 11/28/2018 5:34:00 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Smurgeon:

What day did you order them?  I’m still “processing” and ordered my OD MK16 on the 23rd.
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On the 22nd. But I also ordered my Federal ODG on the 22nd and it’s still processing. I have an SSA that’s currently bouncing all around the NorthEast with fedex. Says it’ll be here Friday.

I’m sure the federalODG was a huge seller. Not supervised they are delayed. But the ODG MK16 is goregous. Clone be damned. It’s perfect. Wish I could have afforded a second one.
Link Posted: 11/28/2018 7:37:15 AM EST
[Last Edit: 11/28/2018 7:37:50 AM EST by OlacAttack]
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Originally Posted By Smurgeon:

What day did you order them?  I’m still “processing” and ordered my OD MK16 on the 23rd.
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Ordered a mk16 short and mk4 ODG at 7:15pmish the 22nd, then some triggers and CH around 10pm the 22nd. Both still processing.
Link Posted: 11/28/2018 6:13:27 PM EST
Ordered 11/22 8:56 pm est.. shows processing
Link Posted: 11/30/2018 11:54:06 AM EST
Link Posted: 11/30/2018 12:15:10 PM EST
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Originally Posted By ThRob:
http://i67.tinypic.com/sb6dg5.jpg
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That's a nice shot of the rifles, thanks!
Link Posted: 11/30/2018 12:41:17 PM EST
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Originally Posted By StevieJ309:

Shark Arms for the FBI barrel. You'd have to be on crack to pay Charlie's price.
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Agreed. Charlie's is a completer ripoff.
Link Posted: 11/30/2018 4:25:05 PM EST
Received yesterday.  Ordered mid-day on the 22nd.  Second order placed early morning on the 23rd with 2 ACH's and another Mk4 still processing.

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Link Posted: 11/30/2018 4:25:58 PM EST
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wrong thread
Link Posted: 11/30/2018 4:28:05 PM EST
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Originally Posted By crm2k4:
Received yesterday.  Ordered mid-day on the 22nd.  Second order placed early morning on the 23rd with 2 ACH's and another Mk4 still processing.

https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/337265/20181130_152200_jpg-756320.JPG
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Man I wish I had gotten that color. First one was much darker. Ordered a second Monday so hoping it turns out to be like that.
Link Posted: 11/30/2018 4:37:34 PM EST
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Originally Posted By cjwwd2:

Man I wish I had gotten that color. First one was much darker. Ordered a second Monday so hoping it turns out to be like that.
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That one matches mine, ordered around the same time (3pmish Thursday)....

Link Posted: 11/30/2018 4:38:58 PM EST
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Originally Posted By ThRob:
http://i67.tinypic.com/sb6dg5.jpg
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the left rifle looks like a green receiver..
Link Posted: 11/30/2018 4:41:02 PM EST
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Originally Posted By wissota4:

the left rifle looks like a green receiver..
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That's what I was thinking, too.
Link Posted: 11/30/2018 5:28:29 PM EST
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Originally Posted By grimhollow:
That's what I was thinking, too.
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Originally Posted By grimhollow:
Originally Posted By wissota4:

the left rifle looks like a green receiver..
That's what I was thinking, too.
I read somewhere that some older carbines were painted at the department level. Chances are you'll see plenty of variation in lower types and finishes.
Link Posted: 11/30/2018 5:31:59 PM EST
[Last Edit: 11/30/2018 5:33:11 PM EST by loudxpack]
Slowly but surely gathering parts.

Still need -
Colt upper receiver
Charging handle (looks like they're using USGI, which in that case I have plenty of)
ODG CTR stock
ODG grip, or Hogue / ERGO grip
Barrel (possibly wait on the prices to drop on these. Not paying 400+)
BUIS
Link Posted: 11/30/2018 5:37:12 PM EST
Damn I was day late buying the 150+ plus Colt 11.5 Heavies on GB at $150 each last year.
Link Posted: 11/30/2018 6:08:19 PM EST
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Originally Posted By loudxpack:
Slowly but surely gathering parts.

Still need -
Colt upper receiver
Charging handle (looks like they're using USGI, which in that case I have plenty of)
ODG CTR stock
ODG grip, or Hogue / ERGO grip
Barrel (possibly wait on the prices to drop on these. Not paying 400+)
BUIS
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primary arms has mil spec od ctr stocks on sale
Link Posted: 11/30/2018 6:23:20 PM EST
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Originally Posted By 1iviper:
primary arms has mil spec od ctr stocks on sale
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damnit... i saw that and was putting it off, but now ill have to jump on it before they sell out
Link Posted: 11/30/2018 6:24:14 PM EST
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Originally Posted By wissota4:
damnit... i saw that and was putting it off, but now ill have to jump on it before they sell out
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Originally Posted By wissota4:
Originally Posted By 1iviper:
primary arms has mil spec od ctr stocks on sale
damnit... i saw that and was putting it off, but now ill have to jump on it before they sell out
Just grabbed one, thanks!
Link Posted: 11/30/2018 7:03:09 PM EST
G & R Tactical has the FBI barrels in stock for $330; they were offering a sizeable discount over the weekend, not sure if that still applies or not.

Mine came in today, and it is brand new, in the bag.
Link Posted: 11/30/2018 8:08:12 PM EST
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Originally Posted By wissota4:

damnit... i saw that and was putting it off, but now ill have to jump on it before they sell out
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i saw it posted in another thread yesterday and saw they were still in stock today , i thought the rush on them was over

i know exactly how you feel though
Link Posted: 11/30/2018 8:08:57 PM EST
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Originally Posted By loudxpack:

Just grabbed one, thanks!
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not a bad price and it's one more thing off the list
Link Posted: 11/30/2018 8:15:57 PM EST
Any codes for PA?

They’re charging me tax and shipping, so it isn’t that great of a deal.
Link Posted: 11/30/2018 8:31:07 PM EST
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Originally Posted By wissota4:
the left rifle looks like a green receiver..
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Originally Posted By ThRob:
http://i67.tinypic.com/sb6dg5.jpg
the left rifle looks like a green receiver..
It is good to be the boss.
Link Posted: 12/1/2018 12:33:08 AM EST
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Posted in the geissele industry forum also, here’s my fbi green. It’s pretty dark but not quite as dark as the mk16.
Link Posted: 12/1/2018 2:32:18 AM EST
So I ordered 2 OD green Mk4 federals and for some reason Geissele sent me 2 OD green Mk16s, not at all what I ordered. Will have to call them on Monday and hopefully they can straighten this out.
Link Posted: 12/1/2018 2:37:16 AM EST
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Originally Posted By berkeleygiraffe:
https://i.imgur.com/5tWoOifh.jpg
Posted in the geissele industry forum also, here’s my fbi green. It’s pretty dark but not quite as dark as the mk16.
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Any hint of green on that MK16?
Link Posted: 12/1/2018 9:08:39 AM EST
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Originally Posted By WTFShane:

Any hint of green on that MK16?
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It’s definitely darker but green for sure and looks different in different light. Daylight bulb and iPhone but the color is pretty close to real life. FBI rail last pic for contrast.



Link Posted: 12/1/2018 9:58:24 AM EST
That's tough. To my eye they look black.
Link Posted: 12/1/2018 10:00:51 AM EST
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Originally Posted By JonnyMoses:
So I ordered 2 OD green Mk4 federals and for some reason Geissele sent me 2 OD green Mk16s, not at all what I ordered. Will have to call them on Monday and hopefully they can straighten this out.
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Charged for MK4's but got MK16's with charging handles . I'm an honest guy, but that's a tough test.
Link Posted: 12/1/2018 12:44:53 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Mikehikes:
That's tough. To my eye they look black.
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Here it is next to a mk8 in black and a hodge up top just for color contrast
Link Posted: 12/1/2018 2:33:45 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Harv24:
And what is so special about the Spuhr HRT mount?
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The mount was designed for a shooter wearing a CBR/gas mask to get a cheek weld and still have a proper sight picture (RE: while wearing a mask).

If you aren't shooting with a mask it will sit high.  Some will argue that a high mount will give a shooter a sight picture sooner from the ready and allow the shooter to engage even before they get a stock to the shoulder.  Doable with a 5.56 for sure.  Personally, I would never run the FBI Mount unless I thought I was doing a DA on a target that had a CBR threat.  So never.

But this being a clone thread most will take more pictures of the clone build than actually shoot/train with it.
Link Posted: 12/1/2018 3:01:19 PM EST
Speaking of taking photos instead of shooting (kinda hard without a barrel). Below is a comparison of B5 SOPMOD in OD Green with the G Federal rail. Mine is almost a bright emerald color in natural light. Tried to get a good photo under white LED for a fair comparison.

I figure most will be going the CTR route, just figured I’d throw this in here for comparison. Good luck with the clones, mines looking like a 10.5” 300 blk for suppressed shooting, so won’t be participating much in here.

Link Posted: 12/1/2018 3:11:40 PM EST
Beautiful! Can’t wait for mine to get here
Link Posted: 12/1/2018 3:24:37 PM EST
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Originally Posted By JSchell1309:
Speaking of taking photos instead of shooting (kinda hard without a barrel). Below is a comparison of B5 SOPMOD in OD Green with the G Federal rail. Mine is almost a bright emerald color in natural light. Tried to get a good photo under white LED for a fair comparison.

I figure most will be going the CTR route, just figured I’d throw this in here for comparison. Good luck with the clones, mines looking like a 10.5” 300 blk for suppressed shooting, so won’t be participating much in here.

http://i.imgur.com/mPiO1Eh.jpg
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Looks great! I assume you'll be using a SiCo can with the 10.5?
Link Posted: 12/1/2018 3:32:29 PM EST
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Originally Posted By loudxpack:

Looks great! I assume you'll be using a SiCo can with the 10.5?
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Weeeell, I have a Rigged Surge on the way, so I was going to pick up an inexpensive Faxon or BA 10.5” 300 blk Barrel and see if I could use a thick shim or shim stack with a flash hider Mount and get it to clear the rail. Below photo is rugged mount on a G 9.5” rail. Looks like I need at least 1/16” inch or greater spacer.

Link Posted: 12/1/2018 3:34:13 PM EST
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Originally Posted By seamasterpro:
Second pic ThRob posted sure looks like an OD MOE grip
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Originally Posted By lt1_sport:
Anybody know if teams are using ODG magpul grips?
Second pic ThRob posted sure looks like an OD MOE grip
Likely it is.

SWAT Agents have more latitude for changing things like pistol grips so even if the guns come with ERGO grips or Houge grips, they can it swapped out for something else within reason like magpul. The catch is the gun would need to be sent to the Armorers in Quantico for the switch unless they happened to catch one of the mobile Armorer teams at their office.

Generally swat agents can swap for different stocks, optics lights within reason etc though their local Fireams program and team leadership may have a say in that. Point being there is a basic configuration the guns are issued in but for SWAT guns there is variation after that. For example some of the guys around here seem to favor the B5 Bravo stock. It also may depend on what was on hand in the gun vault hand the last time the gun was built / re-built.
Link Posted: 12/1/2018 3:37:52 PM EST
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Originally Posted By cjwwd2:
Does the 4M have the same mounting footprint/screw pattern as Aimpoint micros?
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Yes, all the SIG Romeo 4/5 models use the Aimpoint micro footprint.
Link Posted: 12/1/2018 6:42:59 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Mikehikes:

Charged for MK4's but got MK16's with charging handles . I'm an honest guy, but that's a tough test.
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Just have no need for 2 od green mk16s, and it's not what I ordered...
Link Posted: 12/1/2018 7:46:45 PM EST
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Got my black federal rail in the mail today. Tracking had it coming three days from now..... have an upper and barrel ordered. Somehow managed to forget to order a gas tube.

Free swag was a great addition. Thanks G!
Link Posted: 12/2/2018 10:40:13 AM EST
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Originally Posted By berkeleygiraffe:

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I desperately hope my Mk4 Fed arrives in this color and not Sour Apple Pucker.
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