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Link Posted: 11/24/2018 8:52:49 PM EST
[Last Edit: 11/24/2018 8:54:07 PM EST by mbpike]
IN ON 1!!!

I ordered 4 of the Federal rails.  a DDC, Gray, 2 x ODG.  The DDC is going on my current gun to replace my MK4 9.5", the Gray is going on a 12.5" project I'm going to start soon, and well the ODG rails (at least 1 of them) is going to be a very very very slowly built FBI Regional Gun.

ETA: Fucking missed page 1.
Link Posted: 11/24/2018 10:21:56 PM EST
[Last Edit: 11/24/2018 10:23:19 PM EST by ARogueNinja]
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Originally Posted By CWied:

Is it just me or is something not right with that auto sear pin?
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Armorers remove the auto sear to make it semi only, it's SOP for a lot of police departments as well.
Link Posted: 11/24/2018 10:24:33 PM EST
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Originally Posted By ARogueNinja:
Armorers remove the auto sear to make it semi only, it's SOP for a lot of police departments as well.
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Originally Posted By ARogueNinja:
Originally Posted By CWied:

Is it just me or is something not right with that auto sear pin?
Armorers remove the auto sear to make it semi only, it's SOP for a lot of police departments as well.
They used to have the sear.
Link Posted: 11/24/2018 11:36:38 PM EST
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Originally Posted By BurtSaun1049:

They used to have the sear.
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Dogs aren't as big as they used to be....
Link Posted: 11/25/2018 12:36:26 AM EST
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Originally Posted By mbpike:
Dogs aren't as big as they used to be....
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Originally Posted By mbpike:
Originally Posted By BurtSaun1049:

They used to have the sear.
Dogs aren't as big as they used to be....


Great thread! Lets keep the info flowing. I plan on doing a clone build with mine.
Link Posted: 11/25/2018 12:38:21 AM EST
Any of these guys ever running 14.5" barrels? I ordered one of the MK16 rails and charging handles in OD Green. I don't live in a state where I can have SBRs, so if I clone, it's gotta be 14.5".
Link Posted: 11/25/2018 12:39:29 AM EST
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Originally Posted By JK12:
I picked up a couple in green. Looks like one of the guys I got one for is backing out.  I’ll know for sure by weeks end.  If that’s the case and someone need one for a build shoot me an email, you can have it for what I payed.
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Sent you an email.
Link Posted: 11/25/2018 12:42:05 AM EST
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Originally Posted By ronjohnbb:
Any of these guys ever running 14.5" barrels? I ordered one of the MK16 rails and charging handles in OD Green. I don't live in a state where I can have SBRs, so if I clone, it's gotta be 14.5".
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pistols?
Link Posted: 11/25/2018 3:57:23 AM EST
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Originally Posted By OlacAttack:
@HCM3156

so something like this

FBI Build

Lower Receiver: Colt
Stock: Magpul CTR Black/ODG
Pistol Grip: Hogue Rubber Grip with Finger Grooves Black (no dovetail)
Rear Sling Plate:
Upper Receiver: Mil-spec forged M4  
Barrel: 11.5 Colt heavy
Rail: Geiselle MK4 Federal ODG
Rear BUIS: Troy (black)
Front Sight: Troy (black)
Front Sling Attachment:
Muzzle Device: A2 Birdcage
Optic: Romeo 4M or Aimpoint T2 w DD micro mount
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Close enough. I don’t recall if the rear plate is a QD or standard.

The Romoes use their own mount. DD is only for Aimpoints.  The guns were comimg with the houge now the ergo. Either would be correct. Likely a mix of personal preference and/ or what ever is handy when the armorers put it together.
Link Posted: 11/25/2018 4:10:10 AM EST
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Originally Posted By BurtSaun1049:

Surefire rails with Inforce WMLs, PEQ-2s, LMT rear sight, Eotech (unsure what model, but looked like 552s). Guns were camo spray-painted in my AO. I'm also unsure of bbl profile, but they were the 11.5" barrels with FSP. SWAT guys had Colt full auto lowers, regular agents who did not have an MP5 in 9mm or 10mm had RRA ARs that were a true mixed bag in terms of setups.

SWAT guys also had Springfield Professional 1911s, although must carried the G22s at the time (now replaced with 9mm guns).

*ETA: another pic of current guns.
https://i.imgur.com/9vvYnw7.png

Quasi-pic of how they used to look, minus the 11.5" bbl
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Yes the old RRAs were 14.5” Guns but they were subsequent converted to 11.5”. They are still around in that form  as pool / training rifles. There were EO 552’s and some of the newer sideways battery models as well as some  T1/H1 floating around.

The SWAT guns are full autos but they have the option of Geissele triggers. I was told some guys don’t want the Geissele because you lose the auto capability.

My own work gun has 3 round burst and I would gladly swap that for an SSA but to each their own.

There are still 1911 and G21 POW s around but for team stuff it is green 17 only.
Link Posted: 11/25/2018 4:11:48 AM EST
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Originally Posted By StevieJ309:
Looks like it's missing.
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Originally Posted By StevieJ309:
Originally Posted By CWied:
Originally Posted By BurtSaun1049:

Not that I want to disclose

*ETA: nvm, I delivered
https://i.imgur.com/WEvmKqX.jpg?1
Is it just me or is something not right with that auto sear pin?
Looks like it's missing.
Just guessing but it may be missing because it has been swapped over to an Geissele SSA trigger.
Link Posted: 11/25/2018 7:54:30 AM EST
These clone threads are killing me!  I literally just received the last parts for my MK18 Mod 0.  I ordered 2 rails Greed and DDC.  I have one of the anodized colts that the OD should look great on!  

Lol and SBR all things!
Link Posted: 11/25/2018 8:17:43 AM EST
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Originally Posted By DGredTribe:
@bwhited

Standard charging handles. Lots of Ergos and some Hogues.
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Great thread! Do you guys happen to know which model ergo?
Thanks!
Jj
Link Posted: 11/25/2018 8:50:17 AM EST
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Originally Posted By HCM3156:
The SWAT guns are full autos but they have the option of Geissele triggers. I was told some guys don’t want the Geissele because you lose the auto capability.
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Seems like they could just use the SSF trigger and preserve the capability.
Link Posted: 11/25/2018 9:52:23 AM EST
Got tracking info for my OD rail! Got a nos colt OD 4 pos coming too, this was a great BF!
Link Posted: 11/25/2018 10:38:00 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Dobs013:
Got tracking info for my OD rail! Got a nos colt OD 4 pos coming too, this was a great BF!
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jelly

When did you order? Both mine are in processing but I ordered them at like 7 and 10 pm on the 22nd
Link Posted: 11/25/2018 10:41:25 AM EST
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Originally Posted By OlacAttack:

jelly

When did you order? Both mine are in processing but I ordered them at like 7 and 10 pm on the 22nd
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I ordered around 3pm on Thursday. I just got my order in before the first batch of OD mk4's went oos.
Link Posted: 11/25/2018 10:59:53 AM EST
I've got tracking for my MK4, but it has not been shipped yet.  Ordered in the early minutes of the first offering.
Link Posted: 11/25/2018 11:12:38 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Ghostdog1066:
I've got tracking for my MK4, but it has not been shipped yet.  Ordered in the early minutes of the first offering.
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Mines the same, its listed as ready for UPS. I'm hoping I'll have it by the end of the week, it's only traveling 2 states over.
Link Posted: 11/25/2018 12:35:02 PM EST
When the feds show up to confiscate your guns and yall got the same rifle...

Link Posted: 11/25/2018 12:41:43 PM EST
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Originally Posted By M4A1SOPMOD:
When the feds show up to confiscate your guns and yall got the same rifle...

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Link Posted: 11/25/2018 12:44:29 PM EST
So for those doing this, just stripping off the FSB and set screwing the G block?

I hate having that stupid front pin hole exposed when the FSB is removed, almost as much as I hate relying solely on set screws on a non-dimpled barrel.

Thinking of just shaving the FSB and calling it a day.
Link Posted: 11/25/2018 12:56:53 PM EST
[Last Edit: 11/25/2018 1:04:30 PM EST by Sputnik556]
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Originally Posted By Marksman14:
So for those doing this, just stripping off the FSB and set screwing the G block?

I hate having that stupid front pin hole exposed when the FSB is removed, almost as much as I hate relying solely on set screws on a non-dimpled barrel.

Thinking of just shaving the FSB and calling it a day.
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The holes for the FSB should be well under the rail.
Link Posted: 11/25/2018 1:00:51 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Sputnik556:

The holes for the FSB should be well under the rail.
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I know, still bothers me.  I know it shouldn't but its a pet peeve.
Link Posted: 11/25/2018 1:02:11 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Marksman14:
I know, still bothers me.  I know it shouldn't but its a pet peeve.
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Originally Posted By Marksman14:
Originally Posted By Sputnik556:

The holes for the FSB should be well under the rail.
I know, still bothers me.  I know it shouldn't but its a pet peeve.
Understandable.
Link Posted: 11/25/2018 1:07:21 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Marksman14:
I know, still bothers me.  I know it shouldn't but its a pet peeve.
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Originally Posted By Marksman14:
Originally Posted By Sputnik556:

The holes for the FSB should be well under the rail.
I know, still bothers me.  I know it shouldn't but its a pet peeve.
The Larue GB may cover them.  

This is why the non FSB drilled barrels will probably bring a premium.
Link Posted: 11/25/2018 1:11:18 PM EST
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Originally Posted By kells81:

The Larue GB may cover them.  

This is why the non FSB drilled barrels will probably bring a premium.
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Any idea where those can be found?  I do like "clone" type builds, but I won't sacrifice functionality or build quality just to get one "right".  I'm thinking I'll just shave the FSB and call it a day.
Link Posted: 11/25/2018 1:15:50 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Marksman14:
Any idea where those can be found?  I do like "clone" type builds, but I won't sacrifice functionality or build quality just to get one "right".  I'm thinking I'll just shave the FSB and call it a day.
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Originally Posted By Marksman14:
Originally Posted By kells81:

The Larue GB may cover them.  

This is why the non FSB drilled barrels will probably bring a premium.
Any idea where those can be found?  I do like "clone" type builds, but I won't sacrifice functionality or build quality just to get one "right".  I'm thinking I'll just shave the FSB and call it a day.
$419 at Charlies Custom Clones
Link Posted: 11/25/2018 1:16:19 PM EST
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Think i have everything i need for the setup im going for except for the 11.5 Colt fbi barrel

Colt LE carbine lower
Colt upper
Colt ch
Colt bcg
Magpul CTR stock
Troy folding front & rear buis
Colt od buffer tube
Ergo pistol grip
Aac 51t for m4000 suppressor
Geissele od rail
EOTech EXPS 3
G33 Magnifier
Vtac 2 point od

No wml ordered  yet. Im drained
Link Posted: 11/25/2018 1:17:07 PM EST
So which thread is the official thread now? This one?

Or this one?

Maybe this one?

Maybe the original?
Link Posted: 11/25/2018 1:18:24 PM EST
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Originally Posted By seamasterpro:
So which thread is the official thread now? This one?

Or this one?

Maybe this one?

Maybe the original?
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#geisseleallthethings
Link Posted: 11/25/2018 1:23:30 PM EST
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Originally Posted By kells81:

$419 at Charlies Custom Clones
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Holy balls.

At that point I'd just say fuck it and slap a DD 11.5 with pinned LPGB on there, correctness be damned.
Link Posted: 11/25/2018 1:23:45 PM EST
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$419 at Charlies Custom Clones
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Is the undrilled worth the extra $$$? Will the exposed hole from the fsb make a difference?

i picked up a FSB barrel from shark arms for $250. I am in same boat to shave or just knock off and install G block.
Link Posted: 11/25/2018 1:25:23 PM EST
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Originally Posted By RocketCity556:
Is the undrilled worth the extra $$$? Will the exposed hole from the fsb make a difference?

i picked up a FSB barrel from shark arms for $250. I am in same boat to shave or just knock off and install G block.
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No the exposed hole doesn't matter.  Just an aesthetic thing that bothers me.

I think shaving the FSB is the best route.   By the time I got that barrel, and sent it off to have the G block pinned, I'd have almost 500 into it.  NOPE.
Link Posted: 11/25/2018 1:28:54 PM EST
Yeah maybe a mod can combine all the threads?

I'm in on the FBI clone build so I picked up a Mk4 rail. I might depart from the standard 5.56 and build this rifle in 6.5 Grendel. If you've been tracking; the 6.5 G with an 11" barrel has better ballistics than the 5.56 but hits like a 300 BLK that can go out to 800 meters. I think its a perfect round for an SBR and it should go perfect with the 10" G rail. Barrel will be from Alexander Arms as they've done a lot of the dev work on this round. We'll see how the parts collecting shapes up.
Link Posted: 11/25/2018 1:29:18 PM EST
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Originally Posted By seamasterpro:
So which thread is the official thread now? This one?

Or this one?

Maybe this one?

Maybe the original?
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I'm planning on sticking with this one, and then maybe one of the ones in the G Industry section.  I'm just trying to stay away from the ass hats in GD.  So far, this thread has the most pictures of actual G Federal rails int he wild.
Link Posted: 11/25/2018 1:43:41 PM EST
I ordered an OD rail.  I think my build will end up something like what’s listed below but I’m tapped out on funds right now.

Lower:
Colt AR15A4 Lightweight LE Carbine marked lower (need to Form 1)
Geissele buffer tube in black
Geissele G2S trigger
B5 SOPMOD in OD

Upper:
Colt receiver
Colt 11.5 barrel
A2 or Surefire Closed Tine flash hider
OD MK4 Federal rail
Troy BUIS
Aimpoint T2 w/Geissele mount or Eotech EXPS3-0
Surefire M300 with MLOK mount and SR07 switchboard
Link Posted: 11/25/2018 2:10:51 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Marksman14:

Any idea where those can be found?  I do like "clone" type builds, but I won't sacrifice functionality or build quality just to get one "right".  I'm thinking I'll just shave the FSB and call it a day.
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Doesn't get much better than a shaved Colt FSB. This is what I will be doing and I would bet their are several FBI guns like this...
Link Posted: 11/25/2018 2:28:49 PM EST
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Originally Posted By StevieJ309:
Looks like it's missing.
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Originally Posted By CWied:
Originally Posted By BurtSaun1049:

Not that I want to disclose

*ETA: nvm, I delivered
https://i.imgur.com/WEvmKqX.jpg?1
Is it just me or is something not right with that auto sear pin?
Looks like it's missing.
That's one way to convert a rifle to Semi only, we use selector blocks.
Link Posted: 11/25/2018 2:36:28 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Marksman14:
So for those doing this, just stripping off the FSB and set screwing the G block?

I hate having that stupid front pin hole exposed when the FSB is removed, almost as much as I hate relying solely on set screws on a non-dimpled barrel.

Thinking of just shaving the FSB and calling it a day.
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I prefer the factory drilled and pinned shaved FSB over a gas block.  UnleI would only use their gas block if I was starting with a new barrel that had not been drilled for a FSB.
Link Posted: 11/25/2018 2:58:47 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Marksman14:
No the exposed hole doesn't matter.  Just an aesthetic thing that bothers me.

I think shaving the FSB is the best route.   By the time I got that barrel, and sent it off to have the G block pinned, I'd have almost 500 into it.  NOPE.
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Originally Posted By RocketCity556:
Is the undrilled worth the extra $$$? Will the exposed hole from the fsb make a difference?

i picked up a FSB barrel from shark arms for $250. I am in same boat to shave or just knock off and install G block.
No the exposed hole doesn't matter.  Just an aesthetic thing that bothers me.

I think shaving the FSB is the best route.   By the time I got that barrel, and sent it off to have the G block pinned, I'd have almost 500 into it.  NOPE.
Shark Arms for the FBI barrel. You'd have to be on crack to pay Charlie's price.
Link Posted: 11/25/2018 3:00:22 PM EST
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Originally Posted By StevieJ309:

Shark Arms for the FBI barrel. You'd have to be on crack to pay Charlie's price.
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Thats the plan right there.  Sent an email to order one up so hopefully he still has them.

Worst case, I'm just going to get a DD 11.5 with a pinned LPGB and call it a day.  Not "correct", but a damn good barrel.
Link Posted: 11/25/2018 3:03:21 PM EST
Anyone know if ADCO will shave a FSB? Or is this a John from Retro arms type job? I do not have the tools to do something like that, and if i attempt it I'd butcher it.
Link Posted: 11/25/2018 3:05:58 PM EST
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Originally Posted By JLAudio:
Anyone know if ADCO will shave a FSB? Or is this a John from Retro arms type job? I do not have the tools to do something like that, and if i attempt it I'd butcher it.
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good reason to get a 5 dollar hack saw from menards... and a file.
nothing to it.
Link Posted: 11/25/2018 3:07:36 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Marksman14:

Thats the plan right there.  Sent an email to order one up so hopefully he still has them.

Worst case, I'm just going to get a DD 11.5 with a pinned LPGB and call it a day.  Not "correct", but a damn good barrel.
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I'd call, when I talked to him a few days ago he said he was a few days behind on emails, he had sold so many barrels since the G sale started. Was at over 100 on the 23rd.
Link Posted: 11/25/2018 3:08:15 PM EST
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Originally Posted By wissota4:
good reason to get a 5 dollar hack saw from menards... and a file.
nothing to it.
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Originally Posted By JLAudio:
Anyone know if ADCO will shave a FSB? Or is this a John from Retro arms type job? I do not have the tools to do something like that, and if i attempt it I'd butcher it.
good reason to get a 5 dollar hack saw from menards... and a file.
nothing to it.
This. Crazy easy. Just look up some videos online
Link Posted: 11/25/2018 3:09:47 PM EST
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Originally Posted By JLAudio:
Anyone know if ADCO will shave a FSB? Or is this a John from Retro arms type job? I do not have the tools to do something like that, and if i attempt it I'd butcher it.
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I had ADCO do it on a Noveske barrel years ago.
Link Posted: 11/25/2018 3:12:31 PM EST
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Originally Posted By OlacAttack:

I'd call, when I talked to him a few days ago he said he was a few days behind on emails, he had sold so many barrels since the G sale started. Was at over 100 on the 23rd.
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Just did!  He said he's sorting through emails right now and getting an accurate count on exactly how many have sold, etc.

Got on the list either way...also for a complete 11.5 upper.
Link Posted: 11/25/2018 3:32:26 PM EST
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Originally Posted By M4A1SOPMOD:
When the feds show up to confiscate your guns and yall got the same rifle...

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I lol'd
Link Posted: 11/25/2018 3:38:26 PM EST
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Originally Posted By OlacAttack:

I'd call, when I talked to him a few days ago he said he was a few days behind on emails, he had sold so many barrels since the G sale started. Was at over 100 on the 23rd.
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I spoke with Chris yesterday, he finally got through his emails as of Saturday late afternoon, still had some 11.5's left, his wife was busy counting them. Call him early Monday to check, he has always called me back if he doesn't answer. Good luck! Fantastic barrels, I'm presently using one of 3 I have, use for intermittent auto also. Great guy Chris, excellent CS!
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