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Link Posted: 12/17/2011 12:45:00 PM EDT
Link Posted: 12/17/2011 12:48:20 PM EDT
Link Posted: 12/17/2011 2:47:42 PM EDT
I placed an order and it showed up quickly, I like the box too, its pretty cool. I couldn't be happier with my new handstop.
Link Posted: 12/18/2011 11:52:29 AM EDT
I sure would like to know whats up with the Haley light mounts.  I placed an order on 1 December and was billed that day and have not heard or seen anything from them yet.  Anybody else having trouble with their order?

k9g
Link Posted: 12/18/2011 12:28:33 PM EDT
Link Posted: 12/18/2011 2:11:09 PM EDT
Odd question here but can a Scout Light be reversed on the thorn tail mount to where the head and body goes back over the pic rail mount?
Link Posted: 12/18/2011 3:49:52 PM EDT
Link Posted: 12/18/2011 7:32:32 PM EDT
I'm assuming this won't work with the surefire M series lights right? I run a M961XM07 and would love to get the dropwing for it.
Link Posted: 12/19/2011 3:27:20 PM EDT
Is there some sort of list so we can check what rail systems are compatible with the Dropwing?

For me specifically, I'm looking at an application for an SWS/Noveske rail
Link Posted: 12/19/2011 4:01:02 PM EDT
Link Posted: 12/19/2011 4:02:49 PM EDT
Link Posted: 12/20/2011 5:02:51 AM EDT
Bring a few extra to shot show, I'll buy em cash and do a review for ya. I'll shoot ya an email.
Link Posted: 12/20/2011 2:16:16 PM EDT
The dropping is a nice looking mount but does not fit as I had hoped on the URX3 rail. I may need to build a spacer and buy longer bolts to raise the mount a little to clear the rails on the end of the hand guard. Can anyone tell me the size and thread pitch of bolts that come with the mount?
Link Posted: 12/20/2011 3:23:20 PM EDT
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Is there some sort of list so we can check what rail systems are compatible with the Dropwing?

For me specifically, I'm looking at an application for an SWS/Noveske rail


On our site, there is a drop-down filter which lists known compatible Quad Rail Systems.

Post a close-up pic of the front sight area of your rail so we can reply. THORNTAIL works for sure.

Right now, the only rail system that is not compatible is the Daniel Defense LITE rails...

MOUNT-N-SLOT


As requested, hopefully my poor photography skills will be suitable

Link Posted: 12/20/2011 3:48:03 PM EDT
Link Posted: 12/20/2011 3:48:52 PM EDT
Link Posted: 12/21/2011 2:45:00 AM EDT
Its an SWS Rail, used by Noveske

Link Posted: 12/21/2011 8:39:29 AM EDT
does dropwing fit MI drop in rail system..
Link Posted: 12/21/2011 4:20:50 PM EDT
Link Posted: 12/21/2011 7:48:40 PM EDT
just curious, what makes this better than the gear sector scout mount? i have a tan one and was about to order a black one as well but then i saw this.
Link Posted: 12/21/2011 9:05:42 PM EDT
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does dropwing fit MI drop in rail system..


Yes.

MOUNT-N-SLOT


when will both be "in stock"

are either currently available for the G2.. checked your site but didnt see them..
Link Posted: 12/22/2011 4:41:40 AM EDT
Link Posted: 12/22/2011 4:44:34 AM EDT
Link Posted: 12/24/2011 11:24:47 AM EDT
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does dropwing fit MI drop in rail system..


Yes.

MOUNT-N-SLOT


when will both be "in stock"

are either currently available for the G2.. checked your site but didnt see them..


We're shipping the customer's who pre-ordered now. Both function with G2's. THORNTAIL & DROPWING for G2's are available and are shipping based on order date at: HALEY STRATEGIC PARTNERS

MOUNT-N-SLOT



one last question.. compare the two mounts? why a thorntail VS dropwing? advantages and or disadvantages of each?
thanks for all the help..
Link Posted: 12/26/2011 11:58:07 AM EDT
I really really really hope I get my thorntail this week. That isn't a threat, I'm just super anxious.
Link Posted: 12/27/2011 4:15:29 PM EDT
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does dropwing fit MI drop in rail system..


Yes.

MOUNT-N-SLOT


when will both be "in stock"

are either currently available for the G2.. checked your site but didnt see them..


We're shipping the customer's who pre-ordered now. Both function with G2's. THORNTAIL & DROPWING for G2's are available and are shipping based on order date at: HALEY STRATEGIC PARTNERS

MOUNT-N-SLOT



one last question.. compare the two mounts? why a thorntail VS dropwing? advantages and or disadvantages of each?
thanks for all the help..


Look at the pics, a thorntail fits on a picatinny rail, a dropwing is more low profile and fits in between the picatinny rails on certain rail systems.
Link Posted: 12/27/2011 11:30:35 PM EDT
If this has already been asked, Im sorry I may have overlooked it. I was curious if the URX dropwings you mentioned were in the works would also fit a M4 RAS?

Thanks
Link Posted: 12/28/2011 6:22:27 AM EDT
Anyone have any idea the shipping wait for HSP on orders made before Christmas.  I sent an email to them directly, but they are probably being swamped right now.
Link Posted: 12/28/2011 7:54:08 AM EDT
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Anyone have any idea the shipping wait for HSP on orders made before Christmas.  I sent an email to them directly, but they are probably being swamped right now.


I ordered my Thorntail 12/06, got it today.
Link Posted: 12/29/2011 2:41:43 PM EDT
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does dropwing fit MI drop in rail system..


Yes.

MOUNT-N-SLOT


when will both be "in stock"

are either currently available for the G2.. checked your site but didnt see them..


We're shipping the customer's who pre-ordered now. Both function with G2's. THORNTAIL & DROPWING for G2's are available and are shipping based on order date at: HALEY STRATEGIC PARTNERS

MOUNT-N-SLOT



one last question.. compare the two mounts? why a thorntail VS dropwing? advantages and or disadvantages of each?
thanks for all the help..


Look at the pics, a thorntail fits on a picatinny rail, a dropwing is more low profile and fits in between the picatinny rails on certain rail systems.


right I understand that.. but providing the Dropwing fits.. is there ANY reason not to go with it over the Thorntail.. that was more my question...

Link Posted: 12/29/2011 3:27:16 PM EDT






Got my Thorntail in today.
Link Posted: 12/29/2011 3:55:46 PM EDT
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Got my Thorntail in today.


you can flip it either way right? like you could have the flashlight in the same spot? but have the mount on the top rail instead of the side?
Link Posted: 12/29/2011 6:47:29 PM EDT
If I'm reading this correctly anything under 1" diameter would need a home made spacer (since both Scout Lights are 1")? I have a Klarus NT10 (21.5 mm (0.846") I'd like to use with the Dropwing.

Just want to confirm before I buy one.

Thanks
Link Posted: 12/29/2011 7:03:30 PM EDT
Link Posted: 12/29/2011 7:04:06 PM EDT
Link Posted: 12/29/2011 7:08:37 PM EDT
Quoted:I'm not sure, but I'll ask.
 


Cool, thanks!
Link Posted: 12/30/2011 7:06:43 AM EDT
Link Posted: 12/30/2011 7:07:32 AM EDT
Link Posted: 1/15/2012 8:10:19 PM EDT
Mine did not sit flush.  I have a Gen 2 2-piece drop in for Colts,  The rail is slightly thicker at the end near the handguard cap which causes the mount to sit at an angle. I have an older MI rail on another rifle and the dropwing will definately fit on that since the non-rail parts are all even.  Here are some pics of what I'm talking about.  
http://i1268.photobucket.com/albums/jj561/cmm40-6/rail.jpg

http://i1268.photobucket.com/albums/jj561/cmm40-6/rail2.jpg

http://i1268.photobucket.com/albums/jj561/cmm40-6/rail3.jpg
Link Posted: 1/16/2012 5:16:13 AM EDT
And the original post was supposed to be in response to the question about the dropwing fitting MI rails.
Link Posted: 1/16/2012 6:50:07 AM EDT
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Got my Thorntail in today.


you can flip it either way right? like you could have the flashlight in the same spot? but have the mount on the top rail instead of the side?

Yes you can. You can mount it on the side, on the top, or on the bottom. The whole idea was to have a mount that lets you put the light where you want it, and, have the light forward of and or off the rail.

Forward off the rail means you can get it past the FSB (if you have one) to reduce the shadow effect on the barrel, and to free up the entire handguard so the position of the light does not interfere with your grip on the gun.

As noted somewhere else, the advantages may be somewhat limited on an SBR where you don't want the light even with or in front of the muzzle, but you can move the mount fore and aft on the rail to get it where you want it.

Hopefully I'll have a camera that works shortly.

One place where the thorntail has really stood out for me is on my A4 clone. I can place the mount on the M5 RAS, and the mount will clear the area on the side where there is no rail, (the grenade launcher cut out) and still get the light out past the FSB. (Using a standard size Scout)

The Thorntail's low profile should be perfect with the UltiMAK system & a low-slung red-dot.   I'll know on Wed when mine arrives!  Thanks for listening to what gunners want/need!  
Link Posted: 1/16/2012 9:12:11 AM EDT
The Thorntail can indeed get the bezel of a M600 (I tried a Vampire) all the way out to the front gas block. If you think that's a good idea. You'll have to mount the Thorntail at the front of the Ultimak, because the extension disallows placement of anything on the rail next to the extension.

There is a good selection of quality light mounts that work on the Ultimak with Micro-type sights. Vltor, LaRue, Danger Close.

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The Thorntail's low profile should be perfect with the UltiMAK system & a low-slung red-dot.   I'll know on Wed when mine arrives!  Thanks for listening to what gunners want/need!  


Link Posted: 1/16/2012 12:22:36 PM EDT
Link Posted: 1/16/2012 12:46:58 PM EDT
No I think the rail is fine.  I think the dropwing just isnt compatible with this particular rail.
Link Posted: 1/29/2012 9:54:36 AM EDT
Thorntail for Surefire/VTAC L-4 light:





Link Posted: 1/29/2012 11:04:25 AM EDT
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The Thorntail can indeed get the bezel of a M600 (I tried a Vampire) all the way out to the front gas block. If you think that's a good idea. You'll have to mount the Thorntail at the front of the Ultimak, because the extension disallows placement of anything on the rail next to the extension.

There is a good selection of quality light mounts that work on the Ultimak with Micro-type sights. Vltor, LaRue, Danger Close.

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The Thorntail's low profile should be perfect with the UltiMAK system & a low-slung red-dot.   I'll know on Wed when mine arrives!  Thanks for listening to what gunners want/need!  


OK, got it mounted.  The reason I have it so far forward is that the front sight tower was waay too bright/lit-up.

Is the muzzle brake/blast going to shatter the lens?  

Also, is it alright to run the wires like that or will it melt them?  FYI. I don't rapid-fire 'till my fore-end is smoking.  

The tape switch velcro'd nicely to the microdot!
Link Posted: 1/29/2012 12:50:22 PM EDT
Got the Klarus NT-10 mounted. I dropped it into the handguard which is working out pretty well.  


Tucked Dropwing by CENTCOM_Survivor, on Flickr
Link Posted: 2/5/2012 6:05:16 PM EDT
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I'm assuming this won't work with the surefire M series lights right? I run a M961XM07 and would love to get the dropwing for it.


No... they don't. On both sites, we list compatible lights for each mount and configuration.

We will have a version in January.

MOUNT-N-SLOT


It's Feburary. Checkbook is ready to buy 2.
Link Posted: 2/11/2012 3:48:07 PM EDT
Link Posted: 2/11/2012 9:33:23 PM EDT
I just received the 1.00" Thorntail. It is a nice mount but unfortunately won't work for my application. I tried to install a 6P LED Defender into the mount and the ring was too stretched to get the threads started on the opposite screw. It seems the ring is too small for the light body. Both screws will thread with the ring around the non-knurled portion of the light where the base of the body and tailswitch meet and allow a positive clamping action to be achieved, how ever this really positions the light too far forward. This all was a moot point as the mount is so low-profile (which I understand it was designed to be) that the ability to use an XM07 tailswitch/remote in conjunction with the 6P to make a franken-weaponlight is impossible.
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