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Posted: 12/18/2003 6:49:01 AM EDT
Just saw a photo of a Task Force 20/121 SF operator at militaryphotos.net, link here (sorry, I couldn't figure out how to post the pic here):

http://media.militaryphotos.net/photos/special_forces_and_task_force_20/aak


I've never seen an M4 configured quite like this, and can't ID the can or the telestock...any ideas?  Just curious.  Thanks.

Will

Link Posted: 12/18/2003 6:56:52 AM EDT
Originally Posted By WillMunny:
Just saw a photo of a Task Force 20/121 SF operator at militaryphotos.net, link here (sorry, I couldn't figure out how to post the pic here):

[url]http://media.militaryphotos.net/photos/special_forces_and_task_force_20/aak[/url]


I've never seen an M4 configured quite like this, and can't ID the can or the telestock...any ideas?  Just curious.  Thanks.

Will

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Link Posted: 12/18/2003 7:05:15 AM EDT
The can is a Knight's Armament suppressor as per the SOPMOD kit.

The stock looks like a standard early telestock to me with a rubber pad on the back, a Knight's QD sling attachment and it looks like there may be some kind of field-improvised cheek pad on it.
Link Posted: 12/18/2003 7:08:27 AM EDT
[url="http://www.hunt101.com/?p=80313&c=500&z=1"][img]http://www.hunt101.com/img/080313.jpg[/img][/url]
Link Posted: 12/18/2003 7:10:03 AM EDT
Thanks Bartholomew. Maybe it's the angle, or my bad eyes, but the telestock doesn't look like the old style one to me and I wasn't sure it was the KAC can either...

Will
Link Posted: 12/18/2003 7:14:39 AM EDT
You may be right on the telestock - something about the lines of the stock don't look right for an early telestock; but it does have the same tiny footprint as the early telestock and it looks like something has been taped down on the front and wedged under the stock pad on the back - so it could be a field modified version.
Link Posted: 12/18/2003 7:25:28 AM EDT
Looks like an early tele, w/ KAC's 1 point pushbutton sling swivel attachment at the rear.
Link Posted: 12/18/2003 8:37:29 AM EDT
It looks like he's running a JP enterprise ajustable gas block.

Interestingly there are no backup sights on that weapon.
Link Posted: 12/18/2003 9:04:55 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/18/2003 9:07:32 AM EDT by TheRicker]
Link Posted: 12/18/2003 2:34:37 PM EDT
Link Posted: 12/18/2003 3:36:02 PM EDT
That's a good eye, (I stand corrcted) I wonder why he has the upper but no suppressor from Arms tech (you'ld think they'ld just sell them as a unit).



Link Posted: 12/18/2003 3:52:47 PM EDT
Since we did this thread once already, how soon til someone asks about the tape across the top of the Eotech?

[:D]
Link Posted: 12/18/2003 4:06:54 PM EDT
Link Posted: 12/18/2003 5:56:45 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Lumpy196:
Since we did this thread once already, how soon til someone asks about the tape across the top of the Eotech?

[:D]
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Okay, what's with the tape across the top of the EOTech?[BD]
Link Posted: 12/18/2003 6:07:09 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Yojimbo:
Originally Posted By Lumpy196:
Since we did this thread once already, how soon til someone asks about the tape across the top of the Eotech?

[:D]
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Okay, what's with the tape across the top of the EOTech?[BD]
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I have no friggin clue, but I bet airsofters everywhere are doin it [:D]
Link Posted: 12/18/2003 7:53:07 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/18/2003 7:54:45 PM EDT by Onslaught]
Okay, what's with the tape across the top of the EOTech?

I have no friggin clue, but I bet airsofters everywhere are doin it
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Looks like spare batteries to me... [;D]
Link Posted: 12/18/2003 7:55:55 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/18/2003 7:56:48 PM EDT by Kisara]
Easy.  Two type "N" alkaline batteries.

Does that make me a [s]Trijicon[/s] EOTECH buff?  Do I win a hat?

>EDIT< Damn! You beat me by two minutes.  (I'm a slow typer)
Link Posted: 12/18/2003 8:22:45 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Kisara:
Easy.  Two type "N" alkaline batteries.

Does that make me a [s]Trijicon[/s] EOTECH buff?  Do I win a hat?

>EDIT< Damn! You beat me by two minutes.  (I'm a slow typer)
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(cough) geek (cough) [:D]
Link Posted: 12/18/2003 8:41:48 PM EDT
That must suck to have to tape spare batteries to your Eotech.

I still have the one the came with mine when I bought it [:D]

That free double battery model was pretty cool too [;)]
Link Posted: 12/18/2003 8:41:49 PM EDT
Hell i just like reading the comments in the linked thread...LOL.....
Link Posted: 12/19/2003 5:56:34 AM EDT
  I used to enjoy looking at the photos on that site until it got over run by a bunch of air softers and kids[NI]
Link Posted: 12/19/2003 8:20:11 AM EDT
OK, now for MY stoopid question. What's with the rotated handguards?
Link Posted: 12/19/2003 8:51:32 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Delta_3_63:
OK, now for MY stoopid question. What's with the rotated handguards?
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??
KAC RAS or RIS
Link Posted: 12/19/2003 8:56:42 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Delta_3_63:
OK, now for MY stoopid question. What's with the rotated handguards?
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I dunno.  Looks like and RAS with a IR designator on top to me.  Doesnt appear rotated.
Link Posted: 12/19/2003 9:17:35 AM EDT
It is not rotated the PEQ2A is ontop of the RIS.


Link Posted: 12/19/2003 10:29:49 AM EDT
Doh! I shoulda knowed that.

Thanx gents.
Link Posted: 12/19/2003 2:55:59 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Troy:
That's a standard fiberite telestock with a piece of foam-rubber pipe insulation wrapped around the top and taped in place as an improvised cheek rest.  It looks strange because of the angle of the rifle to the camera.

-Troy
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Yea....guess he couldn't find a piece of velcro like I recommended to him!

Those silly Spec Ops guys, always trying to copy Quib!

[img]http://www.hunt101.com/img/073013.jpg[/img]
Link Posted: 12/20/2003 9:29:11 AM EDT
Now what I really want for Christmas is for some ar15er with machine tools to build the vertical grip he's using-
Its a 1" metal ring mount with a rail mount on one side and hole for the pistol grip screw on the other- Your Surefire goes in the ring and you have a poor man's M900..
Link Posted: 12/20/2003 6:12:34 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Ahab:
Now what I really want for Christmas is for some ar15er with machine tools to build the vertical grip he's using-
Its a 1" metal ring mount with a rail mount on one side and hole for the pistol grip screw on the other- Your Surefire goes in the ring and you have a poor man's M900..
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How did you deduct all that info from that pic? It dosen't seem all that clear to me. I've made my own vert. grips before, if you have better pics fess up!

Here is one of my homemade grips.

[img]http://www.hunt101.com/img/080955.jpg[/img]
Link Posted: 12/20/2003 6:23:00 PM EDT
Ahab,

Looks to me like the pressure switch to his PEQ is horizontal instead of vertical (follow the wire)

I cant tell if it is a M900 or not with that blocking.

Link Posted: 12/20/2003 10:38:31 PM EDT
Originally Posted By QUIB:
How did you deduct all that info from that pic? It dosen't seem all that clear to me. I've made my own vert. grips before, if you have better pics fess up!

Here is one of my homemade grips.

[url]http://www.hunt101.com/img/080955.jpg[/url]
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Here you go- A much better set of pics w/ dimensions and construction details:
[url]http://lightfighter.net/6/ubb.x?a=tpc&s=7336015661&f=7206084761&m=4466043881&r=5646069502#5646069502[/url]

..I've seen this setup a couple times before- otherwise I wouldn't have been able to figure it out from the pic on the previous page.

BTW I dig the DIY grip and cheek rest!
Link Posted: 12/21/2003 1:06:02 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Ahab:
Here you go- A much better set of pics w/ dimensions and construction details:
[url]http://lightfighter.net/6/ubb.x?a=tpc&s=7336015661&f=7206084761&m=4466043881&r=5646069502#5646069502[/url]

..I've seen this setup a couple times before- otherwise I wouldn't have been able to figure it out from the pic on the previous page.
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Link is asking me to log in. I'd really like to see how this grip works, you have any pics you can post yourself?
Link Posted: 12/21/2003 9:15:05 AM EDT
I'll try posting the pics- These belong to Lightfighter.com member Geronimo:
[img]http://www.gear-guru.net/grip4.jpg[/img]
[img]http://www.gear-guru.net/gangster_grip.jpg[/img]
[img]http://www.gear-guru.net/grip3.jpg[/img]
[img]http://www.gear-guru.net/grip2.jpg[/img]

"Ring outside diameter: 1.504
Ring ID: 1.008
Ring length: 1.212
Sure-fire 6P OD: 1.000

just to give you a better feel for the overall size of the grip, it's height from the top of the grabber rail to bottom of the grip is: 5.820
The grip is secured to the ring by a self-locking allen head bolt. The bolt is then threaded directly into the ring, from inside the grip. Tap and die set is definately required"
Link Posted: 12/21/2003 2:55:57 PM EDT
Originally Posted By C7pershing:
  I used to enjoy looking at the photos on that site until it got over run by a bunch of air softers and kids[NI]
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How do kids and airsofters keep you from looking at pictures, just don't read their comments.
What did you know about the military when you were 15?
I was reading Gung-Ho, SOF back in 78.
Link Posted: 12/21/2003 5:03:06 PM EDT
Ahab, thanks for the pics. I'm not too crazy about the pistol grip as a vertical grip but there are some ideas there that I could use in the future.

Thanks!
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