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Posted: 9/15/2009 1:21:49 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/15/2009 1:23:12 PM EST by APplaymaker]
Ive been wanting an AR for a long time now and I finally got the money together to get one, I got a bushmaster xm15es2 with what i think is an A1 upper it has built on carry handle and only windage adjustment on the rear sight. Its an M4 clone with the short handguard with holes in the top and bottom of the handguard im wondering if i can put a foregrip on this forearm without getting a new one do they make a rail that will attach to those holes? I have alot of questions and im new so any help would be great thanks
Link Posted: 9/15/2009 1:27:28 PM EST
NO PICS .......NO RIFLE......btw congrats
Link Posted: 9/15/2009 1:30:09 PM EST
Link Posted: 9/15/2009 1:44:51 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/15/2009 1:45:23 PM EST by boarklr]
Congratulation. My first was a Bushmaster w/o a removeable carry handle. Yes, there are rails that attach to the holes. You really should post a picture, or the natives will get restless.

I sold my first Bushy, but I now have 5 AR's......I hope you can afford black rifle disease.
Link Posted: 9/15/2009 2:03:23 PM EST
Oh, I forgot one thing.....some on here will tell you that Bushmaster sucks, and they're full of shit. Don't listen to a word of that crap when it comes down. They're great firearms, and every mfr puts out a piece of junk from time to time.
Link Posted: 9/15/2009 2:15:58 PM EST
i dont really have anything to take a picture with except a 1998 webcam and you wouldnt be able to tell what it was anyway, ill try to get someone to birng a camera over, but its just stock nothing done to it collapsible stock 16 inch barrel, i have the rail that goes onto the carry handle with like a thumb nut on the bottom to mount an optic well i put on a red dot and when i was done shooting the mount was loose i think it might have just been hand tight i dont know it was on there when i got it. Should i make sure its a little more than hand tight? or is this a common problem with this type of rail?
Link Posted: 9/15/2009 2:51:39 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/15/2009 3:16:17 PM EST by PHANTOM309X]
Congrats! I have an XMe2 and I love it.
Link Posted: 9/15/2009 2:56:59 PM EST
Link Posted: 9/15/2009 3:07:41 PM EST
Yes, yes it's true they suck. Mine keeps sucking down ammo and killin paper - flawlessly. Of course it's an ugly old dissipator so it real really sucks...So much in fact, I may have to get another one say maybe a super light just to see if it sucks too....Congrats. I suspect you'll be nothing but happy with it.



"It is better to have less thunder in the mouth, and more lightning in the hand." - The Jicarilla Apache.
Link Posted: 9/15/2009 3:24:32 PM EST
I've been happy with all my Bushmasters.

I've used this rail to mount to the vent holes and it worked fine: http://www.midwestindustriesinc.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=category.display&category_id=93

For the carry handle mount, you can use a little loc-tite on the threads to keep it from backing out if you're going to leave it there (I'd only do this if it was the see-through type that allows you to use the iron sights also). You can also put a slim plastic washer under the nut to protect the finish if you want.

Welcome to the disease!
Link Posted: 9/15/2009 3:27:39 PM EST
2 years ago I bought a Bushy Caron-15 flat top....laugh at my ass if you will, but that damn thing is a sweet shooter.....

Fast forward to now...3 AR's later I'm working on building my first upper and am starting to wonder if the wife is going to kill me over this whole BRD thing....
Link Posted: 9/15/2009 3:35:00 PM EST
Hey welcome to the site and congrats on the new AR. One thing you'll notice here is that we LOVE pics!
Link Posted: 9/15/2009 3:41:32 PM EST
Congrats and welcome to the forum!
Link Posted: 9/15/2009 3:43:09 PM EST
Originally Posted By molardog:
2 years ago I bought a Bushy Caron-15 flat top....laugh at my ass if you will, but that damn thing is a sweet shooter.....

Fast forward to now...3 AR's later I'm working on building my first upper and am starting to wonder if the wife is going to kill me over this whole BRD thing....


It is incurable. The builds never stop and they just get more expensive. I'm building a little higher end AR right now to get it out of my system for a bit. I guess you could say I'm trying to force myself into remission.
Link Posted: 9/15/2009 3:48:32 PM EST
I think there is something wrong with my eyes I can't see the rifle or a red X.
Link Posted: 9/15/2009 3:49:45 PM EST
Originally Posted By evlblkwpnz:
Originally Posted By molardog:
2 years ago I bought a Bushy Caron-15 flat top....laugh at my ass if you will, but that damn thing is a sweet shooter.....

Fast forward to now...3 AR's later I'm working on building my first upper and am starting to wonder if the wife is going to kill me over this whole BRD thing....


It is incurable. The builds never stop and they just get more expensive. I'm building a little higher end AR right now to get it out of my system for a bit. I guess you could say I'm trying to force myself into remission.


That seems to be the case....right now I've got a stainless Recce upper I'm working on, then will move onto the lower....just can't decide on a trigger and stock....
Link Posted: 9/15/2009 3:55:06 PM EST
Welcome to the club.
You're gonna love that rifle.


Link Posted: 9/15/2009 4:15:13 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/15/2009 4:15:37 PM EST by RedZ71]
Bushmaster crew, signing in!

http://www.dfwlp.org/~jhorne/pics/guns/slides/DSC00403.jpg

i need to get up a pic of the new scope and mount cant wait to see some pics of yours too!
Link Posted: 9/15/2009 4:17:19 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/15/2009 4:21:33 PM EST by TerryC]
Congrats!

The carry handle mount will get better, mine would work loose when it was new. Now I can tighten it down and it will stay put.

Since we're enticing you with photos of our Bushmasters, here's mine...



ETA: Glad I wasn't the first "crazy man with a bayonet" to post!

Now get those pictures up!

Link Posted: 9/15/2009 4:17:51 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/15/2009 4:19:51 PM EST by Catman2]
First step in protocol is pics unless it's a Dissapator...in which case we'll just take your word for it.
Link Posted: 9/15/2009 5:14:41 PM EST
Link Posted: 9/15/2009 5:54:15 PM EST
something like this?

Link Posted: 9/16/2009 12:03:17 PM EST
it is pretty much identical to that except for the muzzle break and light, you guys have some nice setups im workin on getting a picture but its gonna be from a cell phone so i dont know how good that will look.
Link Posted: 9/16/2009 12:17:18 PM EST
Here's my Bushy, well the lower at least

Link Posted: 9/16/2009 12:21:44 PM EST






Only the lower here also.
Link Posted: 9/16/2009 12:42:56 PM EST
Congrats on your new BM. Pics??

Here's mine:



Link Posted: 9/16/2009 1:45:23 PM EST
Here is a shot of my Bushy. Started out with a A2 upper swithed it out with a Bushy flattop and the BRD has snowballed from there.Working on my first build now a Spikes lower with Spikes ST-22 upper.Welcome to the club and keep your wallet ready at all times!

Link Posted: 9/16/2009 3:59:00 PM EST
the very first Ar i bought was a BM and after over 7000 rounds, I hand less than 10 FTE/FTF's. At the time, i didn't even know that this could have been mag related. After switching to PMAG's, I didn't have another issue. Ended up selling it during the frenzy..
Link Posted: 9/16/2009 4:37:15 PM EST
i got the pictures there off a phone so they dont look that great but i cant figure out how to put them on. i read the post on how to put a picture on, i have them saved to my desktop is it sayin i have to have a photobucket account or something?
Link Posted: 9/16/2009 4:43:17 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/16/2009 4:43:31 PM EST by MACD]
Go to http://www.photobucket.com and register for free, upload the pic from your computer, then copy the image link into a post.
Link Posted: 9/16/2009 4:54:18 PM EST
Congrats and welcome.

I'm thinking of getting a Bushmaster upper for my Rock River Arms lower...but I heard they're really bad fit. I've sent an email today to Bushmaster Customer Service about it and awaiting their respons.
Link Posted: 9/17/2009 2:13:30 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/17/2009 2:16:39 PM EST by APplaymaker]
i think it worked im not sure let me know if it works for you guys
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http://i829.photobucket.com/albums/zz214/APplaymaker/0916092024.jpg

http://i829.photobucket.com/albums/zz214/APplaymaker/0916092024a.jpg
Link Posted: 9/17/2009 2:39:59 PM EST
My AR is a Bushmaster XM15 ES2 with A1 upper as well. I picked it up in March or April. Then I sent the upper back to Bushmaster and changed out the A1 for an A3 flat top and the gas piston conversion kit as well. Gonna put some optics on it eventually but just have a BUIS for now. Love that gun.


http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n183/karmaPunk1/Kimber1.jpg
Link Posted: 9/17/2009 2:40:54 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/17/2009 2:41:36 PM EST by MACD]
To make the image show in your post surround the image's url with [ img ] & [ /img ] (no spaces)




Link Posted: 9/17/2009 4:10:28 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/17/2009 4:11:43 PM EST by APplaymaker]
So if i wanted to get the flat top upper what do i all need to do? thanks for your help and where do i put the [mg] at can u give me example of how to type it
Link Posted: 9/17/2009 4:29:46 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/18/2009 2:16:14 AM EST by TheManWithNoName]
Originally Posted By APplaymaker:
So if i wanted to get the flat top upper what do i all need to do? thanks for your help and where do i put the [mg] at can u give me example of how to type it



Order it from bushmaster. You need a gunsmith to remove the barrel from the receiver so you might as well send it to bushmaster b/c they do it for free if you buy it from them. You can buy the full asembly or just the basics and they can take the rest from your old one.

Bushmaster V Match "Flat-Top" Upper Receiver Assembly Part No: VUR-M2 Price: $190.00
http://www.bushmaster.com/images/catalog/Parts_Accessories/Lower_Receivers/VUR.gif


Stripped V Match Upper Receiver Part No: 8448524-V Price: $151.95
http://www.bushmaster.com/images/catalog/Parts_Accessories/Lower_Receivers/8448524-V.gif

You can ship your upper directly to Bushmaster b/c only the lower receiver is considered a firearm.

Link Posted: 9/17/2009 4:31:14 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/17/2009 4:35:28 PM EST by MACD]
You could either buy a new complete upper or buy a stripped upper and switch them out (or have someone else do it)

The upper itself will be around a $100, don't know what someone like ADCO would charge to install it. Don't get an upper with M4 feed ramps unless your barrel has them.

You can then either keep and use your A1 (C7) upper for your next build or sell it to recover a bit of the cost.

OR

you can also click the little green landscape button on your reply toolbar and just paste it into the first box:



ALL current Bushmasters say XM15E2S on the receiver, regardless of configuration
Link Posted: 9/17/2009 4:31:52 PM EST
here is my bushy xm15 e2s
http://i980.photobucket.com/albums/ae286/mdaugherty24/020.jpg



just replace ur upper reciever u have now with a flat top upper reciever.
Link Posted: 9/17/2009 4:40:22 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/17/2009 4:41:29 PM EST by Colt_SBR]
Bushmaster porn. I love it.

My contribution.

Bushmaster lower with a Rock River Arms 15" upper with an A2 flash hider permanently attached (legal 16") and Colt carry handle.





Link Posted: 9/17/2009 5:21:37 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/17/2009 5:23:03 PM EST by MillerTime12oz]
Congrats man and welcome to the site.

Bushy is a great gun!!!

Link Posted: 9/18/2009 11:18:44 AM EST
Im liking the way yours looks colt thats nice, so why do i have to have a gunsmith remove the barrel its not just screwed on? I guess its not gonna be an easy job how do i know if it has m4 feed ramps?
Link Posted: 9/18/2009 12:39:24 PM EST
Originally Posted By APplaymaker:
Im liking the way yours looks colt thats nice, so why do i have to have a gunsmith remove the barrel its not just screwed on? I guess its not gonna be an easy job how do i know if it has m4 feed ramps?




You could, but that thing is tighten on there like a mf. You'll strip or scratch the shit out of it. Best leave it to a professional.. IMO
Link Posted: 9/18/2009 1:01:23 PM EST
my bushy patrolmans carbine
Link Posted: 9/18/2009 3:06:04 PM EST
I have two Bushies, an A2 20" rifle...absolutely flawless from the beginning, and an M4A2, which was a mess at the get-go, but that was most
likely a dealer or distributor problem. The carbine was returned to Bushie and shortly afterwards returned in a flawless state. Both are 1/9
twist and more accurate than I can shoot. A third weapon has a Bushie barrel, but the rest of the piece is a complete mongrel, so it doesn't
count as a true Bushie....according to the faithful !
Link Posted: 9/19/2009 2:23:51 AM EST
Originally Posted By TheManWithNoName:
Originally Posted By APplaymaker:
Im liking the way yours looks colt thats nice, so why do i have to have a gunsmith remove the barrel its not just screwed on? I guess its not gonna be an easy job how do i know if it has m4 feed ramps?


You could, but that thing is tighten on there like a mf. You'll strip or scratch the shit out of it. Best leave it to a professional.. IMO


Doing it yourself is not impossible or even difficult but only if you are willing to invest in the tools you will need beforehand. And you'll need to do your homework before putting a tool a tool to the gun.

That's where the pros come in, they already have the tools and the experience. It's usually much cheaper to just pay someone else to do it.
Link Posted: 9/19/2009 4:58:12 AM EST
Its not that i wouldt want a pro to do it, its just that i live in the middle of nowhere and these gun shops around here are shade tree i bet most of them have never even held an AR.
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