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Posted: 10/9/2005 4:40:20 AM EDT

A while back I posted a topic saying I had $400 to spend on an AK. I got several responses, but have just never found anything that said "buy me". So, what if I up my budget to around $550? Now I'm in VEPR territory and would have already ordered one "VEPR K" if I could find one that wasn't backordered.

I want something (1) in 7.62 (2) no folders or kits right now (3) 16.5" barrel (4) black synthetic furniture (5) slant brake (6) stamped receiver. Pretty basic stuff.

Suggestions, with sources, would be appreciated.

Thanks

Posted: 10/9/2005 5:05:02 AM EDT

[#1]

I'd look into a quality Saiga conversion. I can't think of any sources at the moment.. someone will add some.

Posted: 10/9/2005 5:07:47 AM EDT

[#2]

Upping the ANTE, not Annie.

Posted: 10/9/2005 5:10:47 AM EDT

[#3]

Quoted:
Upping the ANTE, not Annie. hr

Oops. Its early.

Posted: 10/9/2005 5:14:38 AM EDT

[#4]

Well, Vector has your exact description for $495 + $18 shipping.

Posted: 10/9/2005 5:52:17 AM EDT

[#5]

Now we are cookin'! Those Saiga conversions look nice. One question, any reason you are looking for a stamped gun and not considering a milled gun?

Posted: 10/9/2005 5:56:09 AM EDT

[#6]

Quoted:
Now we are cookin'! Those Saiga conversions look nice. One question, any reason you are looking for a stamped gun and not considering a milled gun?

No, from what I've read there is really no reason to go with a milled receiver? That and price.

Posted: 10/9/2005 6:06:37 AM EDT

[#7]

Quoted:
Upping the ANTE, not Annie.

...we don't get French benefits?

Posted: 10/9/2005 6:26:52 AM EDT

[#8]

If you get a Saiga conversion it can get pricey...if you want it done right...milled are nice but expensive....WASR10s CAN be nice if you find a good one but you have to look...I don't know about Vector although the one posted here looks sort of OK, although I prefer wood on my AKs.

Long story short, I would go for a WASR and get the US-made black stock set from k-var

If the budget was a little higher then I would go for the SA7 carbine like this

Posted: 10/9/2005 6:41:44 AM EDT

[#9]

Quoted:
Quoted:
Upping the ANTE, not Annie.

...we don't get French benefits?

Yes we do......Whenever we need an Ally in the UN they go out of their way
to Fu@k us.

Posted: 10/9/2005 6:48:04 AM EDT

[#10]

Off of the Atlantic Firearms web site.

German Ak-47[/www.atlanticfirearms.com/programming/expand.asp?Prodid=18]VEPR

Posted: 10/9/2005 6:52:22 AM EDT

[#11]

Off of the Atlantic Firearms web site.

VEPR

German AK

Posted: 10/9/2005 6:52:28 AM EDT

[#12]

Quoted:
Quoted:
Now we are cookin'! Those Saiga conversions look nice. One question, any reason you are looking for a stamped gun and not considering a milled gun?

No, from what I've read there is really no reason to go with a milled receiver? That and price.

Milled receiver guns, like Arsenals are going to be a bit more than their stamped counterparts. I do not think that the difference would be that much though. The milled guns are really nice, a bit heavier and will dampen recoil. I can not say enough about the Arsenal guns. The SA M7 Carbine is really nice for the price. You could probably find one for just a bit more, you may end up being happier with it as well. They are awesome.

Check the EE, there are some SLR-101's and such there as well that may peak your interest.

Posted: 10/9/2005 8:03:33 AM EDT

[#13]

Quoted:
Off of the Atlantic Firearms web site.

VEPR

German AK

The german one is a kit build.

Quoted:
Well, Vector has your exact description for $495 + $18 shipping.

A weld build?

For 500 you can build up a nice SAR, if you can find one, and you'll have a factory AKM receiver (minus the third hole).

Posted: 10/9/2005 8:11:46 AM EDT

[#14]

Quoted:
Quoted:
Off of the Atlantic Firearms web site.

VEPR

German AK

The german one is a kit build.

Quoted:
Well, Vector has your exact description for $495 + $18 shipping.

A weld build?

For 500 you can build up a nice SAR, if you can find one, and you'll have a factory AKM receiver (minus the third hole).

Couldn't have said it better myself .... I think I taught clange everything he knows ... didn't I ?

...

...

Posted: 10/9/2005 8:17:23 AM EDT

[#15]

Well someone did, you can take credit if you like.

Posted: 10/9/2005 9:23:20 AM EDT

[#16]

Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Now we are cookin'! Those Saiga conversions look nice. One question, any reason you are looking for a stamped gun and not considering a milled gun?

No, from what I've read there is really no reason to go with a milled receiver? That and price.

Milled receiver guns, like Arsenals are going to be a bit more than their stamped counterparts. I do not think that the difference would be that much though. The milled guns are really nice, a bit heavier and will dampen recoil. I can not say enough about the Arsenal guns. The SA M7 Carbine is really nice for the price. You could probably find one for just a bit more, you may end up being happier with it as well. They are awesome.

Check the EE, there are some SLR-101's and such there as well that may peak your interest.

+1

Posted: 10/9/2005 12:20:05 PM EDT

[#17]

Get the Vepr. Even if you have to wait awhile, get the Vepr. It will be well worth the wait.

Posted: 10/10/2005 12:24:50 PM EDT

[#18]

Okay, just called Vector to order a rilfle. She told me a 14 month lead time.hinking.gif

Back to square one I guess.

Posted: 10/10/2005 12:52:15 PM EDT

[#19]

Arsenal!

Posted: 10/10/2005 12:52:31 PM EDT

[#20]

While builds are not overnight either, consider a $200 Polish underfolder kit which is a great start, sell the folder bits and front wood to cover the black poly stock set and new rear tang block from kvar, relax knowing that this set plus a $30 G2 fcg covers your US parts needs, then get it built.

Do homework, stalk EE, maybe hit a show, buy ammo/mags to hold you over.

If you want optics later, note that side rails are extra on some guns.

Posted: 10/10/2005 1:00:49 PM EDT

[#21]

Quoted:
While builds are not overnight either, consider a $200 Polish underfolder kit which is a great start, sell the folder bits and front wood to cover the black poly stock set and new rear tang block from kvar, relax knowing that this set plus a $30 G2 fcg covers your US parts needs, then get it built.

Do homework, stalk EE, maybe hit a show, buy ammo/mags to hold you over.

If you want optics later, note that side rails are extra on some guns.

I was actually thinking about that. I just keep thinking about the r/c plane I started a couple of years ago and haven't finished. Like you said, if worse came to worse I could always get someone to build it.

Posted: 10/10/2005 3:32:28 PM EDT

[#22]

If the kit, stock swap, rear tang, break even at 200, add 30 for the fcg and 70 for a Global Trades 1mm rec, then all you need are rivets, paint, and a friendly area builder (cough, hometown forum, cough) whom you may bribe with beer and be done for under 400.

Posted: 10/10/2005 4:09:20 PM EDT

[#23]

Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Now we are cookin'! Those Saiga conversions look nice. One question, any reason you are looking for a stamped gun and not considering a milled gun?

No, from what I've read there is really no reason to go with a milled receiver? That and price.

Milled receiver guns, like Arsenals are going to be a bit more than their stamped counterparts. I do not think that the difference would be that much though. The milled guns are really nice, a bit heavier and will dampen recoil. I can not say enough about the Arsenal guns. The SA M7 Carbine is really nice for the price. You could probably find one for just a bit more, you may end up being happier with it as well. They are awesome.

Check the EE, there are some SLR-101's and such there as well that may peak your interest.

+1

+2

Posted: 10/10/2005 4:18:38 PM EDT

[#24]

go Vector..Ive had mine for over a year now, looks showroom new, shoots like a champ...great accuracy for a AK47...id pay 2x as much as I did for my Vector its that sharp a piece. It does fit the bill and then some.

Posted: 10/11/2005 4:38:26 AM EDT

[#25]

I have a Vepr K that I love, but also I picked up a Arsenal SLR 101 Hi Cap with a scope mount new for 550. Just another great option in that price range

Posted: 10/11/2005 5:42:36 AM EDT

[#26]

Quoted:
Quoted:
Off of the Atlantic Firearms web site.

German AK

The german one is a kit build.

Is there anything "wrong" with it or to shy away from?

Thanks

Posted: 10/11/2005 8:11:53 AM EDT

[#27]

http://www.elitefirearms.net/saigaconversions.php

http://ak-103.com/rifles.html

The AK-103K looks like an awesome gun. I like the AK-105 too, but you said no folding stocks! (the Krink stock IS an option by the way...)

Posted: 10/11/2005 8:20:02 AM EDT

[#28]

Quoted:
Quoted:
Upping the ANTE, not Annie.

...we don't get French benefits?

Now that was funny!

"It's the Leaning Tower of Pisa, NOT Pizza!"

Posted: 10/11/2005 8:27:16 AM EDT

[#29]

 The Atlantic Firearms kit built rifle would be an excellent choice,
 I have heard nothing but good things about them and I would think 
that if there was a problem he would stand behind his products.

Posted: 10/11/2005 8:31:23 AM EDT

[#30]

Go with the VEPR K. Check this link VEPRs day out They are sweet shooting guns. Very little recoil, and accuracy is amazing. At the range that day a friend brought his Bulgarian milled arsenal and I was not Really impressed, It was alright, but didnt see where it was in comparison to the Vepr. Its worth the wait and dont believe the hype about parts not being redily available, my mak 90 parts are all interchangable in the gun, and you can order anything from robinson you want. The only thing thats not interchangable with any other AK is the furniture, and it already has what you want

I want something (1) in 7.62 (2) no folders or kits right now (3) 16.5" barrel (4) black synthetic furniture (5) slant brake (6) stamped receiver.

But the most important thing is get what YOU want. This is my opinion and dont let anyone "Talk you into" getting a gun that you are unsure of. And dont settle for whats right here right now. If the VEPRs what you want then its worth the wait. My next purchase will be a VEPR in 7.62x39

ETA: You should check out the pic threads on the russian forums.

Posted: 10/11/2005 9:27:43 AM EDT

[#31]

Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Off of the Atlantic Firearms web site.

German AK

The german one is a kit build.

Is there anything "wrong" with it or to shy away from?

Thanks

Not that I know of. I just generally like factory rifles over builds if at all possible.

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