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Posted: 9/5/2005 10:11:49 AM EDT
I have an Arsenal SAM-5 .223 and I am considering using it as a SHTF gun. www.arsenalinc.com/sam5.htm


My family is going to keep a few mags loaded with Hornady TAP...


What is the best bullet weight for the twist rate?

55gr
60gr
75gr

Wher­e is the best place online to buy this stuff?


While I'm at it, where can I get some .223 AK mags?

K-var is out of stock on them...
Link Posted: 9/5/2005 10:54:12 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/5/2005 10:58:13 AM EDT by HK_Shooter_03]
Twist rate of 1/7...
Link Posted: 9/5/2005 11:27:31 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/5/2005 11:28:48 AM EDT by Templar]
Link Posted: 9/5/2005 12:20:44 PM EDT
the 1/7 twist is what is currently used by the M16s and M4s used by the US military. The twist is great for heavy bullets stay with either 68, 75, 77 grain.
Link Posted: 9/5/2005 1:54:19 PM EDT
Link Posted: 9/5/2005 2:17:41 PM EDT
no offense, but isn't feeding expensive 77gr match rounds to an AK like pearls to swine? h.gif
I think wolf or surplus would work fine. Maybe spring for hollowpoints.
Link Posted: 9/5/2005 2:24:17 PM EDT

Originally Posted By CA2VAyay:
no offense, but isn't feeding expensive 77gr match rounds to an AK like pearls to swine?
I think wolf or surplus would work fine. Maybe spring for hollowpoints.



This is SHTF ammo...

I will only have two mags worth of it...
Link Posted: 9/5/2005 2:25:27 PM EDT
Link Posted: 9/5/2005 2:29:03 PM EDT
Link Posted: 9/5/2005 2:38:51 PM EDT
Hollow point in rifle rounds is pointless. Rifle rounds, especially the .223/5.56 round, rely on speed and fragmentation. Pistol rounds, because they are traveling so slow, rely on expansion for damage. Stick with ball for rifle rounds. Read the ammo oracle it will answer your questions.

And two magazines is not SHTF ammo, sounds more like home defense ammo.
Link Posted: 9/5/2005 5:11:26 PM EDT
XM193...
Link Posted: 9/5/2005 6:01:37 PM EDT
Link Posted: 9/5/2005 6:14:54 PM EDT
Can't speak for the Federal ammo. But my 1/7 barrels shoot Winchester Q3131A , really well at 100 yards. It is the 55 grain stuff. I paid $150 / 1000 rnds. That was a year ago. I don't know prices now. It was also at the NATC gun show. Classic Pawn. I think a few box's of the TAP suff to fill up 2 or 3 mags and then a Case of ammo for the supresive fire and Holy Moly SHTF.... I would stick with the proven stuff. Fed or Winnie ...... And use the Wolf for your range plinking..... IMO WarDawg
Link Posted: 9/5/2005 6:20:18 PM EDT
Good luck even finding Win Q3131 and if you do it will be more than $150 per 1000....
Them days sadly are over...
Link Posted: 9/5/2005 7:35:21 PM EDT
South African .308 in battle packs for the FAL...My new Favorite SHTF weapon.

KyARGuy
Link Posted: 9/5/2005 8:27:41 PM EDT

Originally Posted By HK_Shooter_03:

Originally Posted By CA2VAyay:
no offense, but isn't feeding expensive 77gr match rounds to an AK like pearls to swine?
I think wolf or surplus would work fine. Maybe spring for hollowpoints.



This is SHTF ammo...

I will only have two mags worth of it...



WTF, OVER.


SHTF ammo is like THE SHIT HAS HIT THE FUCKING FAN. Two mags aint Shit hit the fan ammo...


Link Posted: 9/5/2005 8:29:50 PM EDT

75gr Hornady TAP is one of the best. It is extremely hard to find right now. Do not get any of the lighter TAP rounds as they are no better than a varmint load.

Expected In-Stock: 10/17/2005
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