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Posted: 11/23/2018 1:53:08 PM EDT
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I'm actually not sure, but I think that is the last status update. Unfortunately, the guy who is working on that piece of code is out today, so I will have to get back with you on that. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I placed one 11/14. It updated tonight w/ "Form 1: Submitted Electronically on 11/20/2018 (Pending ... I have no clue what comes after the Pending. |
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Posted: 11/23/2018 7:30:00 PM EDT
[#2]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Another update this morning via the "My Orders" tab on SilencerShop.com: 10-19-2018 Signatures Completed 11-20-2018 Form 1: Submitted Electronically 11-20-2018 Form 1: Submitted Electronically on 11/20/2018 11-23-2018 Form 1: Submitted Electronically on 11/20/2018 (Fingerprints... No idea what is after "(Fingerprints..." as it appears that the web age ran out of spaces but in reading other forums I'm guessing it means (Fingerprints Mailed). and paste it somewhere else (new tab on web browser) to read the whole description. |
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Posted: 11/23/2018 8:14:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Select the order update that is cut off by double clicking on it until it all turns blue then copy and paste it somewhere else (new tab on web browser) to read the whole description. |
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Posted: 11/23/2018 8:23:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Select the order update that is cut off by double clicking on it until it all turns blue then copy and paste it somewhere else (new tab on web browser) to read the whole description. |
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Posted: 11/23/2018 11:05:00 PM EDT
[#5]
Below are the details for my form 1 single shot trust (suppressor) filed through Silencer Shop. I completed my fingerprints using their SID kiosk two years ago.
11-5-2018: Signatures Complete 11-20-2018: Form 1 (Single Shot): Submitted Electronically on 11/20/2018 (Pending Research) |
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Posted: 12/1/2018 9:43:34 AM EDT
[#6]
I just tried to do the form 1 again and says out of stock?
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Posted: 12/1/2018 12:10:13 PM EDT
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I just tried to do the form 1 again and says out of stock? https://www.ar15.com/forums/Armory/E-Form-1-via-Silencer-Shop/17-494741/ |
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Posted: 12/1/2018 12:12:11 PM EDT
[#8]
For fucks sake silencer shop.
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Posted: 12/2/2018 4:46:01 PM EDT
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Posted: 12/2/2018 7:00:17 PM EDT
[#10]
This whole situation sucks. I was about to do my Form 1 for my SBR through SS. Guess I’ll give them a couple weeks to figure things out before I take my business somewhere else.
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Posted: 12/3/2018 8:32:38 PM EDT
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For fucks sake silencer shop. 
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Posted: 12/3/2018 8:53:25 PM EDT
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I received an email reply from SS this afternoon stating the Form 1 service should be available again by the end of the week.
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Posted: 12/4/2018 9:55:23 AM EDT
[#13]
I've been stuck at signatures submitted for a few weeks now.
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Posted: 12/4/2018 10:42:36 AM EDT
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I've been stuck at signatures submitted for a few weeks now. |
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Posted: 12/4/2018 1:33:25 PM EDT
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Damn. Better get after them before form 1s come back online. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I've been stuck at signatures submitted for a few weeks now. |
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Posted: 12/4/2018 8:07:47 PM EDT
[#16]
Quote HistoryQuoted: No hurry... when I called to order prints for my next F1 I inquired about the F1 through SS. I was told they could refund or I could wait until they figured out how to get past whatever issue they are having. |
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Posted: 12/5/2018 5:08:49 PM EDT
[#17]
Add me to the list.
Form 1: Submitted Electronically on 11/18/2018 (Fingerprints Mailed) Now what to do? 
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Posted: 12/7/2018 2:56:47 PM EDT
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I apologize to everyone for the delay. I have been on vacation since last week.
We developed this whole process in lock step with the ATF, but they changed their requirements with regards to the "I authorize" checkbox on the eForm, after we started submitting them. They have put all of our eForm Form 1's on hold and we have to change our software and process to account for the new process. The only difference is you have to click on the checkbox and sign your name, instead of just the latter. Everyone who has submitted will have to resign the documents and click the checkbox. We have already updated our software, but we are waiting on written approval from the ATF about the new process. We do not know how long this will take, could be 1-2 weeks. In the interim, everyone who has submitted an electronic Form 1 in the last few weeks is being contacted by our sales and compliance teams. This is taking a while, since there are a couple thousand customers in the pool. If you should choose to wait it out and let us submit the correction, we are compensating you with a $75 gift card. If not, we will of course refund the Form 1 fee and we will also refund your tax stamp up front (e.g. you do not have to wait for months for the ATF to send us a refund check for your submission). |
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Posted: 12/7/2018 4:42:26 PM EDT
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I apologize to everyone for the delay. I have been on vacation since last week. We developed this whole process in lock step with the ATF, but they changed their requirements with regards to the "I authorize" checkbox on the eForm, after we started submitting them. They have put all of our eForm Form 1's on hold and we have to change our software and process to account for the new process. The only difference is you have to click on the checkbox and sign your name, instead of just the latter. Everyone who has submitted will have to resign the documents and click the checkbox. We have already updated our software, but we are waiting on written approval from the ATF about the new process. We do not know how long this will take, could be 1-2 weeks. In the interim, everyone who has submitted an electronic Form 1 in the last few weeks is being contacted by our sales and compliance teams. This is taking a while, since there are a couple thousand customers in the pool. If you should choose to wait it out and let us submit the correction, we are compensating you with a $75 gift card. If not, we will of course refund the Form 1 fee and we will also refund your tax stamp up front (e.g. you do not have to wait for months for the ATF to send us a refund check for your submission). |
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Posted: 12/28/2018 12:29:53 AM EDT
[#20]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Thanks for the response and the kind offer. Good to hear things may be back on track in the near future. |
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Posted: 12/28/2018 6:20:58 PM EDT
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We're past 2 weeks now. Any news from our pals at the ATF? |
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Posted: 12/28/2018 7:53:39 PM EDT
[#22]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Now they're shut down, so.. |
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Posted: 1/1/2019 1:29:50 AM EDT
[#23]
Have all the notifications been made? I haven't gotten a call or email.
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Posted: 1/1/2019 2:51:57 PM EDT
[#24]
me neither. Mine was submitted 11/15
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Posted: 1/1/2019 2:58:15 PM EDT
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Have all the notifications been made? I haven't gotten a call or email. |
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Posted: 1/3/2019 1:44:26 PM EDT
[#26]
Just emailed them to cancel my form 1 and refund to my card. Will update here when its done.
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Posted: 1/3/2019 1:56:02 PM EDT
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I’ll wait a little before cancelling. No real value for efiling a F1 right now since the NFA branch is shutdown and nothing is getting approved anyway. Once the govt. gets back up and running, I’ll give them a week to get something worked out, and if not, then I’ll cancel and resubmit on my own.
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Posted: 1/3/2019 3:24:35 PM EDT
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I'll wait a little before cancelling. No real value for efiling a F1 right now since the NFA branch is shutdown and nothing is getting approved anyway. Once the govt. gets back up and running, I'll give them a week to get something worked out, and if not, then I'll cancel and resubmit on my own. |
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Posted: 1/4/2019 11:13:44 AM EDT
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Got an email from SS yesterday asking me to call them for an update on my form 1.
The guy that answered said they are still waiting for the ATF to approve the form 1 change. |
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Posted: 1/4/2019 11:30:57 AM EDT
[#30]
The perfect storm:
Sometime in October 2018 the ATF changes the previously approved requirements for Silencer Shop electronic Form 1 submissions Silencer Shop now has to update their software code (no telling how complex this software change is) December 27, 2018: Government goes into a partial shutdown which affects the ATF Thank you ATF and politicians for getting us into this mess. I guess I'll just sit and wait patiently for my October 7, 2018 Form 1 purchase to be processed. |
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Posted: 1/8/2019 12:57:50 AM EDT
[#31]
Motherfucker.
Just bought another lower and didn't know what the hell was going on when SS said Form 1's were out of stock. 
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Posted: 1/11/2019 1:02:49 AM EDT
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The perfect storm: Sometime in October 2018 the ATF changes the previously approved requirements for Silencer Shop electronic Form 1 submissions Silencer Shop now has to update their software code (no telling how complex this software change is) December 27, 2018: Government goes into a partial shutdown which affects the ATF Thank you ATF and politicians for getting us into this mess. I guess I'll just sit and wait patiently for my October 7, 2018 Form 1 purchase to be processed. |
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Posted: 1/13/2019 1:39:06 PM EDT
[#33]
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Just emailed them to cancel my form 1 and refund to my card. Will update here when its done. |
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Posted: 1/13/2019 9:37:33 PM EDT
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I asked for a refund and got it next day. I’ll probably try it again when things are back up and running. I’m not in a rush for this.
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Posted: 1/16/2019 9:16:32 PM EDT
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@SilencerShop - how about a "hybrid" offering? Charge the me to print off a fingerprint card and send it to me (or in to ATF depending) - I dunno how photo works with eForm1s now but mail that in if needed or send me the JPG of my photo, and generate a One Shot Trust for the item. I'll do the electronic filing myself...
Probably moot until the .gov restarts, but if ATFE continues to be difficult, I'd pay something for the convenience of the fingerprint card *AND* to generate another One Shot Trust. Actually the real product here is a way to click off a One Shot Trust for other Forms - I'd love to use it for Form4 paper/non-SS transactions and I'd pay a small fee for the privilege (since obviously the lifetime price was predicated on one buying lots of SS product). |
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Posted: 1/17/2019 10:33:36 PM EDT
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Just to clarify the current situation -
Are the issues with the form 1 being resolved also on hold due to the shutdown (meaning can this be fixed so that form 1's can start to be submitted again)? I understand no approvals are being done for any form, just trying to understand if we can get the form 1 submission process fixed in the meantime. |
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Posted: 1/18/2019 1:03:09 AM EDT
[#37]
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Just to clarify the current situation - Are the issues with the form 1 being resolved also on hold due to the shutdown (meaning can this be fixed so that form 1's can start to be submitted again)? I understand no approvals are being done for any form, just trying to understand if we can get the form 1 submission process fixed in the meantime. |
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Posted: 1/18/2019 12:28:18 PM EDT
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As I understand it SS is waiting on the ATF to approve their revised online process for form 1 submittals that now, hopefully, meets ATFs ever changing and nebulous requirements. The revised process was supposed to be approved several weeks before the shut down even began but wasn't for whatever reason. Now with the shutdown it's in a holding pattern until after the shutdown ends and the ATF gets off their asses and approves the process. Unless of course they somehow decided to once again differently interpret the statutes while being shutdown. |
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Posted: 1/30/2019 3:35:30 PM EDT
[#39]
Any update on this since the gov is back up and running?
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Posted: 1/30/2019 6:05:39 PM EDT
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Any update on this since the gov is back up and running? |
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Posted: 1/30/2019 11:24:43 PM EDT
[#41]
This is getting a bit ridiculous
It's been over five months since I bought this 'service' Somehow we've gone from everyone getting a personal phone call (telling all of us almost the exact same thing) to almost no communication If SS is listening to this: Get your shit together, pull up your big girl panties, and get the job done |
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Posted: 1/31/2019 8:14:28 AM EDT
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This is getting a bit ridiculous It's been over five months since I bought this 'service' Somehow we've gone from everyone getting a personal phone call (telling all of us almost the exact same thing) to almost no communication If SS is listening to this: Get your shit together, pull up your big girl panties, and get the job done |
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Posted: 2/7/2019 12:32:53 PM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: they are doing their part the holdup is the ATF |
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Posted: 2/7/2019 12:46:25 PM EDT
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That's fine. But there has been no follow up. Having to chase them down for updates is just lame. Blast out an email every two weeks letting people know where things are. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: they are doing their part the holdup is the ATF |
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Posted: 2/14/2019 6:10:43 PM EDT
[#45]
I just rolled my own prints and e-filed myself. To be honest now that e-forms is open again on form 1's, there is really no reason to pay someone to do it now.
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Posted: 2/14/2019 9:04:35 PM EDT
[#46]
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I just rolled my own prints and e-filed myself. To be honest now that e-forms is open again on form 1's, there is really no reason to pay someone to do it now. |
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Posted: 2/15/2019 1:26:05 PM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryQuoted: It's fine that you feel that way - some of us would like to have the convenience of the digital prints, photo, and the One Shot Trusts we already paid for... |
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Posted: 2/15/2019 2:15:27 PM EDT
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this right here. I paid for an unlimited OST so I want to use what I already paid for. SS needs to figure out what the issue is and resolve it. Simply saying "its in the ATF's hands. There's nothing we can do", while convenient isnt going to cut it for much longer. They can make a more phone calls, hire an attorney, or whatever. Its not up to me to figure out what I have already paid them to facilitate. Worst case they can start refunding money for those of us who paid for their services and arent getting them. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: It's fine that you feel that way - some of us would like to have the convenience of the digital prints, photo, and the One Shot Trusts we already paid for... |
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Posted: 2/17/2019 12:03:01 AM EDT
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Posted: 2/17/2019 8:15:41 AM EDT
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