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Posted: 11/28/2018 8:30:56 PM EDT
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Anyone gotten a Form 1 efiled though Silencer Shop? Was wondering how the communications and approval notifications work. Do all of the notifications go through SS and then they forward them to you? All I have is my order status on my SS order page showing it was submitted electronically on 11/18. No further status updates, or seemingly any way to go online and check status with the ATF other than the old phone call using the information on the copy of the F1 they filled out for me. TIA. Once the form has left Silencer Shops hands notification is exactly the same as any other Form 1 or 4...……..meaning only ATF knows the status. |
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Posted: 11/28/2018 10:10:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Once the form has left Silencer Shops hands notification is exactly the same as any other Form 1 or 4...……..meaning only ATF knows the status. |
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Posted: 11/28/2018 10:44:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Thanks, but how do the approvals work? Are they through email with an attached approved Form, or do they still send a paper copy with the physical stamp? If its email, I’m not sure where the emails come to. Anyone gone through the process to approval via SS? |
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Posted: 11/29/2018 12:42:06 AM EDT
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Efiled Form 1's will be a .pdf of a stamp emailed to you. |
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Posted: 11/29/2018 12:50:17 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So, SS input my email on the e-form so it comes to me, and not back to them, correct? |
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Posted: 11/29/2018 4:49:35 AM EDT
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Im new to this game but on box 3f they did not use my email address they used a suppressionsession.com email address. Is that correct or should it have been my email?EDIT:::; looked at their industry forum email goes through them and is routed back to you.
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Posted: 11/30/2018 9:08:17 PM EDT
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Heard big issues and all form1s filed by SS are being kicked back. Topic over at redit.
https://www.reddit.com/r/NFA/comments/a1n0ir/atf_missing_prints_after_using_silencershops_form/?utm_source=reddit-android Form 1s show out of stock on their website also. 
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Posted: 11/30/2018 10:59:54 PM EDT
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Heard big issues and all form1s filed by SS are being kicked back. Topic over at redit. https://www.reddit.com/r/NFA/comments/a1n0ir/atf_missing_prints_after_using_silencershops_form/?utm_source=reddit-android Form 1s show out of stock on their website also. |
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Posted: 12/1/2018 9:03:56 AM EDT
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Do the fingerprint cards work a different way when using efile vs. paper, because SS has been sending in fingerprint cards for paper F1s and F4s for years and never had a problem. Not sure the real issue is with fingerprints. More concerning is the comment that they are getting rejected because SS is submitting on behalf of someone else. I wonder if that has something to do with the fact that they use their email instead of the customers email, so the email with the approved tax stamp comes to SS first before going on to the individual.
Hope this gets resolved quickly. Either ATF accepts them, or SS issues refunds and provides instructions on exactly what’s needed to re-efile ourselves, and not just leave everyone in limbo while they go round and round fighting this out. |
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Posted: 12/1/2018 9:08:18 AM EDT
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Do the fingerprint cards work a different way when using efile vs. paper, because SS has been sending in fingerprint cards for paper F1s and F4s for years and never had a problem. Not sure the real issue is with fingerprints. More concerning is the comment that they are getting rejected because SS is submitting on behalf of someone else. I wonder if that has something to do with the fact that they use their email instead of the customers email, so the email with the approved tax stamp comes to SS first before going on to the individual. Hope this gets resolved quickly. Either ATF accepts them, or SS issues refunds and provides instructions on exactly what’s needed to re-efile ourselves, and not just leave everyone in limbo while they go round and round fighting this out. |
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Posted: 12/1/2018 9:49:16 AM EDT
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Is form one out of stock?
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Posted: 12/1/2018 9:52:00 AM EDT
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Is form one out of stock? |
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Posted: 12/1/2018 11:32:39 AM EDT
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Agree. I may be wrong but they should have put customer emails on the form. They state in their industry forum that its done so if any problems happen they will be notified directly and can be rectified. We will see. Unfortunately, it’s the weekend, so it will just be a lot of speculation until Monday, but SS probably needs to come out with some kind of statement real soon if they are all getting rejected. |
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Posted: 12/1/2018 11:45:54 AM EDT
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The ATF has never allowed Form 1's to be submitted from a different account than the owner's personal eForms account. They have rejected those since long before 41F.
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Posted: 12/1/2018 12:20:53 PM EDT
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The ATF has never allowed Form 1's to be submitted from a different account than the owner's personal eForms account. They have rejected those since long before 41F. |
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Posted: 12/1/2018 12:21:47 PM EDT
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So how does silencer shop pull this off ? Serious question. 
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Posted: 12/1/2018 12:24:17 PM EDT
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It appears they don't. |
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Posted: 12/1/2018 1:01:31 PM EDT
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Something changed today. I've got more than one in the queue. Until today they all showed
Form 1: Submitted Electronically on 11/20/2018 (Pending Research) w/ different dates. Today the first one shows Form 1: Submitted Electronically on 11/20/2018 I don't know if that's a good sign or a bad sign. The Pending Research is gone. |
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Posted: 12/1/2018 1:02:03 PM EDT
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If those who filed through SS were to refill through their own individual accounts, any way to reuse the $200 payment, fingerprint cards, photo, and trust paperwork that already went in the the SS application, or would everyone have to restart from scratch?
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Posted: 12/1/2018 1:07:54 PM EDT
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Something changed today. I've got more than one in the queue. Until today they all showed Form 1: Submitted Electronically on 11/20/2018 (Pending Research) w/ different dates. Today the first one shows Form 1: Submitted Electronically on 11/20/2018 I don't know if that's a good sign or a bad sign. The Pending Research is gone. |
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Posted: 12/1/2018 2:40:10 PM EDT
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I have no idea, I called yesterday and was on hold for 1 hour before I decided to email them and ask that they don't submit my paperwork. (It's in the signature complete stage) So we'll see what happens
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Posted: 12/2/2018 9:15:21 PM EDT
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I’ve been screwing around with Silencer Shop for over a month on a Form 1. First they never let me know that it wasn’t being submitted due to a question on the firearm I’m SBRing. After multiple attempts to get an answer we had to redo and resign everything. Then it just stuck at signatures completed.
Spoke with Compliance and they said that it’s now in the department that’s supposed to submit them but have no idea when they’ll actually be transmitted. Now this.... Did no one there actually bother to call the ATF BEFORE implementing this? This is beyond ridiculous. 
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Posted: 12/2/2018 9:23:48 PM EDT
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Between this thread and the reddit thread I’m sure their CS is going to be swamped. Which means it’s going to take longer to get answers
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Posted: 12/2/2018 10:41:42 PM EDT
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I’ve been screwing around with Silencer Shop for over a month on a Form 1. First they never let me know that it wasn’t being submitted due to a question on the firearm I’m SBRing. After multiple attempts to get an answer we had to redo and resign everything. Then it just stuck at signatures completed. Spoke with Compliance and they said that it’s now in the department that’s supposed to submit them but have no idea when they’ll actually be transmitted. Now this.... Did no one there actually bother to call the ATF BEFORE implementing this? This is beyond ridiculous. |
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Posted: 12/3/2018 11:58:02 AM EDT
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Between this thread and the reddit thread I’m sure their CS is going to be swamped. Which means it’s going to take longer to get answers My fingerprints were submitted 11-18 ETA just found the reddit thread. This could get interesting.... |
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Posted: 12/3/2018 1:05:01 PM EDT
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I called to get see if there was any hold up on mine and the guy said everything is submitted and waiting on the ATF. He said that stamps have ran through and he wasn’t aware of any issue. My fingerprints were submitted 11-18 ETA just found the reddit thread. This could get interesting.... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Between this thread and the reddit thread I’m sure their CS is going to be swamped. Which means it’s going to take longer to get answers My fingerprints were submitted 11-18 ETA just found the reddit thread. This could get interesting.... |
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Posted: 12/3/2018 1:11:30 PM EDT
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That is good news. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Between this thread and the reddit thread I’m sure their CS is going to be swamped. Which means it’s going to take longer to get answers My fingerprints were submitted 11-18 ETA just found the reddit thread. This could get interesting.... Form Recieved and Pending Fingerprints not received.... SS shop shows them to be sent 11-18
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Posted: 12/3/2018 1:17:25 PM EDT
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I did my first business with SS in 3/18 and 4/18. A form 1 and form4 respectfully. Got my form1 back in 4 months and still waiting on the form 4.
From other SS postings they stated they were working with the ATF for some time testing and making sure everything was G2G before opening it up. Not sure what was missed. |
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Posted: 12/3/2018 2:01:45 PM EDT
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I did my first business with SS in 3/18 and 4/18. A form 1 and form4 respectfully. Got my form1 back in 4 months and still waiting on the form 4. From other SS postings they stated they were working with the ATF for some time testing and making sure everything was G2G before opening it up. Not sure what was missed. For several years ATF was perfectly happy to let a Powered By Dealer authorize Silencer Shop to submit Form 4's on the dealers behalf. And then this summer ATF said that wasn't allowed any longer. Now the PBD gets a DocuSign for his Form 4's. |
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Posted: 12/3/2018 2:51:34 PM EDT
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I did my first business with SS in 3/18 and 4/18. A form 1 and form4 respectfully. Got my form1 back in 4 months and still waiting on the form 4. From other SS postings they stated they were working with the ATF for some time testing and making sure everything was G2G before opening it up. Not sure what was missed. |
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Posted: 12/3/2018 3:04:05 PM EDT
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Maybe they were working on the technical aspects of how the electronic data transfers with their and the ATF's IT department, and no one thought to ask whether the ATF would actually accept them. On one hand, it shouldn't be different than SS filling out and sending the paper Form 1s for people like they've done for years with no issue. But on the other hand, with the paper form, the approval and stamp was sent to the person/trust listed on the form, regardless of actually who mailed in the paperwork. Now, they apparently email the approval/stamp to the registered account that was used for the efile, which is SS's account, not the actual maker's account. If there is a hangup, it might be there. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I did my first business with SS in 3/18 and 4/18. A form 1 and form4 respectfully. Got my form1 back in 4 months and still waiting on the form 4. From other SS postings they stated they were working with the ATF for some time testing and making sure everything was G2G before opening it up. Not sure what was missed. |
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Posted: 12/3/2018 3:52:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Just called for status VIA the ATF number. Form Recieved and Pending Fingerprints not received.... SS shop shows them to be sent 11-18 |
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Posted: 12/3/2018 6:23:29 PM EDT
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Well I called Silencer Shop and cancelled my Form1 order that’s been stuck in limbo for a month. I refilled everything this morning myself using the ATF website. I just need to do my prints and mail them tomorrow.
At this point I’m willing to take the $205 loss rather than risk to the political environmental changes in January. Would be nice if SilencerShop would actually communicate with their customers so we know what’s going on with our stuff. |
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Posted: 12/4/2018 1:18:51 PM EDT
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I spoke to Silencershop this morning to order prints and at the end of my conversation I asked what was up with the form 1 service. Basically the guy (different guy than yesterday) said that all the form 1’s submitted are in limbo until the ATF and SS figureit out.
He gave me the option to cancel my order for a refund or leave it in place till they finger out the issue. |
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Posted: 12/4/2018 2:31:07 PM EDT
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I spoke to Silencershop this morning to order prints and at the end of my conversation I asked what was up with the form 1 service. Basically the guy (different guy than yesterday) said that all the form 1’s submitted are in limbo until the ATF and SS figureit out. He gave me the option to cancel my order for a refund or leave it in place till they finger out the issue. |
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Posted: 12/4/2018 3:14:57 PM EDT
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Would be nice if they told everyone that 1) there IS an issue, and 2) what the issue is. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I spoke to Silencershop this morning to order prints and at the end of my conversation I asked what was up with the form 1 service. Basically the guy (different guy than yesterday) said that all the form 1's submitted are in limbo until the ATF and SS figureit out. He gave me the option to cancel my order for a refund or leave it in place till they finger out the issue. |
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Posted: 12/6/2018 4:06:46 PM EDT
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Just called the NFA branch. Pending is all they would tell me. Asked if I used a kiosk. Told them yes. They said I needed to talk to silencershop. When I questioned that. They said again you need to talk to silencershop.
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Posted: 12/6/2018 4:19:48 PM EDT
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all silencershop efile form1s are going to be denied. timeline on that is who knows. timeline on the problem being fixed so it can be resubmitted is who knows. Calling Silencer Shop today did nothing except tick me off further.
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Posted: 12/6/2018 4:21:52 PM EDT
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They called and told me I'd get $75 store credit and a swag bag for all this shit.
Good thing I already have another AR SBR or it'd really piss me off. |
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Posted: 12/6/2018 4:30:45 PM EDT
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They called and told me I'd get $75 store credit and a swag bag for all this shit. Good thing I already have another AR SBR or it'd really piss me off. |
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Posted: 12/6/2018 4:33:50 PM EDT
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I had seen them post that on their FB, I had heard people say it, I was offered nothing, except "they are going to be denied, then we will refile, after we figure out what it's going to take for the ATF to accept them" |
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Posted: 12/6/2018 4:36:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Well that doesn't make any sense. Sorry JP, I hope they come through |
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Posted: 12/6/2018 4:40:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Well that doesn't make any sense. Sorry JP, I hope they come through  Never again.
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Posted: 12/6/2018 5:05:26 PM EDT
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anyone raise issues with form 4s submitted through them as well? i have a tax stamp check cashed on 12/4 and its my first time dealing with an NFA item hopefully the fingerprints arent an issue there as well.
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Posted: 12/6/2018 5:35:11 PM EDT
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anyone raise issues with form 4s submitted through them as well? i have a tax stamp check cashed on 12/4 and its my first time dealing with an NFA item hopefully the fingerprints arent an issue there as well. |
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Posted: 12/6/2018 10:13:01 PM EDT
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I've had mixed dealings with CS at Silencer Shop. Seems one day I get somebody that wants to be as short as possible, the next I get someone that's actually helpful. Well, one time I got someone that was actually helpful. I swear though, through all of my stamps, I've never had any issues until I decided to try the "convenient" way. Never again.Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: Well that doesn't make any sense. Sorry JP, I hope they come through Never again.
Which I just did BTW. Got it all submitted and for some reason all the answers that need to be checked no have no check at all. I guess I will call tomorrow to figure that one out. The only thing I can figure is the form crashed while I was on the last page and I didn't bother to look back through to make sure everything was ok prior to hitting submit. |
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Posted: 12/6/2018 11:02:49 PM EDT
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Mine was digitally signed on 10/28 and I haven't heard a peep.
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Posted: 12/7/2018 1:06:00 AM EDT
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I bought the unlimited Easy Trust service.
Say I wanted to Form 1 a pistol, will Silencer Shop let you use the trust service then let you submit it yourself via E-Forms? |
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Posted: 12/7/2018 1:46:14 AM EDT
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As simple as the eform is on the .gov site, why would you bother with SS?
I've used SS for suppressor and SBR stamps, so I'm aware how that process works. I submitted for a SBR on the .gov site on 11-13, stamp in my email on 11-27. Submitted for suppressor on 11-28... |
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Posted: 12/7/2018 1:50:56 AM EDT
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As simple as the eform is on the .gov site, why would you bother with SS? |
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