Its been over 90 days now (Page 1 of 2)
Posted: 4/28/2022 5:31:02 PM EDT
| My e-from 4 for my silencer has been over 90 days waiting to certify. My dealer says they have been coming back in 77 days or sooner. Could there be a problem or has the wait time increased? Forget trying to call Silencer Shop or even E-chat. |
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Best time to call SS is 9:03 Central Time. Pretty much every time I have called then... I get a live person within about 5 min. I don't know how much they will be able to tell you though. I suspect the ATF has started slow rolling eForm approvals....(and Form 4's in general)... although I hope that not the case. I'm on about day 45 after certifying for an eForm, and over 10 months since the tax check was cashed on a paper form. 
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| 90 days is not guaranteed, but you should be close. I had an eForm 4 through SS approved yesterday that was 98 days. For better or for worse, SS has been playing up the 90 day number and cherry-picking very low wait time approvals on IG and YT. The average is likely around 90 days, but there’s going to be some that are longer and shorter. It doesn’t seem as if the ATF is doing first in first out. |
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Originally Posted By TARFU: My e-from 4 for my silencer has been over 90 days waiting to certify. You received notice to certify 90 days ago and have not? Your eForm is not submitted until you certify. Or You certified over 90 days ago and are waiting on approval? My dealer says they have been coming back in 77 days or sooner. I've submitted over a hundred and not a single approved eForm 4 was faster than 90 days. (excepting an expedited form for military) Could there be a problem or has the wait time increased? Well being that ATF stated their target was 90 day approvals, I wouldn't expect approvals to be faster. Faster than the ATF target is delicious gravy. Forget trying to call Silencer Shop or even E-chat. Why would you call Silencer Shop? They aren't emailed the approved eForm, you and your dealer are. |
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Originally Posted By TARFU: My e-from 4 for my silencer has been over 90 days waiting to certify. My dealer says they have been coming back in 77 days or sooner. Could there be a problem or has the wait time increased? Forget trying to call Silencer Shop or even E-chat. Hey TARFU! Good question! Just want to clarify one thing though. Have you been waiting 90 days to certify or for your approval from the ATF? |
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Originally Posted By TARFU: 95 days waiting on approval after certifying. Thank you. Appreciate you clarifying TARFU. We are still seeing approvals come in around the 90-day estimated timeframe. Many have come in sooner than 90 days, some a little after but they are still rolling in as can be seen here. What suppressor are you waiting to take home? |
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Originally Posted By SilencerShop: Appreciate you clarifying TARFU. We are still seeing approvals come in around the 90-day estimated timeframe. Many have come in sooner than 90 days, some a little after but they are still rolling in as can be seen here. What suppressor are you waiting to take home? Mask HD certified 1/28. But I also certified a Rugged 556 on 4/18. I wonder if they will approve them together? |
| I'm waiting on a SureFire suppressor submitted to the ATF on 2/5 and an Occulus submitted on 2/7. I'm definitely starting to get nervous that something is amiss. Is it worth calling the ATF and checking up on things? |
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Originally Posted By opti12206: I'm waiting on a SureFire suppressor submitted to the ATF on 2/5 and an Occulus submitted on 2/7. I'm definitely starting to get nervous that something is amiss. Is it worth calling the ATF and checking up on things? No. I received an approved eForm 4 this afternoon, certified and submitted 1/22/2022. |
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| Yee hah! I got my approvals on both the Surefire (149 days) and the Occulus (151 days). Substantially longer than 90 days, but I'm glad to finally have them. |
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| Now at 154 days on a eform 4 and 120 days on a form 1. The ATF website FTATF showing current processing times is a crock of shit. Calling and getting some smug cunt on the phone makes my day even better. |
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Originally Posted By Troger: Now at 154 days on a eform 4 and 120 days on a form 1. The ATF website FTATF showing current processing times is a crock of shit.... Sigh. The ATF processing times are for NFA forms approved prior to June 30th.. Your forms have fuck all to do with the averages shown on the ATF website because yours have not been approved. When yours are approved the number of days it took will go into the averages for the next ATF update. If you had an form approved prior to June 30 and it was approved in 87 days, you did better than the average. If you had an form approved prior to June 30 and it was approved in 300 days, you did worse than average. Neither makes the ATF times a crock of shit. NO ONE ON THIS PLANET KNOWS what the processing time will be for a form submitted today, NO ONE. |
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Originally Posted By DogtownTom: Sigh. The ATF processing times are for NFA forms approved prior to June 30th.. Your forms have fuck all to do with the averages shown on the ATF website because yours have not been approved. When yours are approved the number of days it took will go into the averages for the next ATF update. If you had an form approved prior to June 30 and it was approved in 87 days, you did better than the average. If you had an form approved prior to June 30 and it was approved in 300 days, you did worse than average. Neither makes the ATF times a crock of shit. NO ONE ON THIS PLANET KNOWS what the processing time will be for a form submitted today, NO ONE. Originally Posted By DogtownTom: Originally Posted By Troger: Now at 154 days on a eform 4 and 120 days on a form 1. The ATF website FTATF showing current processing times is a crock of shit.... Sigh. The ATF processing times are for NFA forms approved prior to June 30th.. Your forms have fuck all to do with the averages shown on the ATF website because yours have not been approved. When yours are approved the number of days it took will go into the averages for the next ATF update. If you had an form approved prior to June 30 and it was approved in 87 days, you did better than the average. If you had an form approved prior to June 30 and it was approved in 300 days, you did worse than average. Neither makes the ATF times a crock of shit. NO ONE ON THIS PLANET KNOWS what the processing time will be for a form submitted today, NO ONE. Sigh, June 30th is the latest info on their shitty site. I didn't post this for an ATF apologist. BTW FUCK THE ATF. If you are offended then go to the next post. |
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Originally Posted By Troger: Sigh, June 30th is the latest info on their shitty site. Originally Posted By Troger: Sigh, June 30th is the latest info on their shitty site. No shit Sherlock. I didn't post this for an ATF apologist. BTW FUCK THE ATF. If you are offended then go to the next post. You confuse apologist with someone who knows what the fuck they are reading......and you don't.  |
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Originally Posted By DogtownTom: No shit Sherlock. You confuse apologist with someone who knows what the fuck they are reading......and you don't. Originally Posted By DogtownTom: Originally Posted By Troger: Sigh, June 30th is the latest info on their shitty site. No shit Sherlock. I didn't post this for an ATF apologist. BTW FUCK THE ATF. If you are offended then go to the next post. You confuse apologist with someone who knows what the fuck they are reading......and you don't. Look Tom, not sure why your panties are in a bunch and the attitude. I know it's Monday, have you tried Pamprin or Midol. I posted my times so far the the latest info from the ATF website on this DISCUSSION forum. You must work for the ATF as you are so heavily invested in this. |
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Originally Posted By Troger: Look Tom, not sure why your panties are in a bunch and the attitude. I know it's Monday, have you tried Pamprin or Midol. I posted my times so far the the latest info from the ATF website on this DISCUSSION forum. Originally Posted By Troger: Look Tom, not sure why your panties are in a bunch and the attitude. I know it's Monday, have you tried Pamprin or Midol. I posted my times so far the the latest info from the ATF website on this DISCUSSION forum. Your post shows a complete and total ignorance of what ATF's current processing times average is and what it means. You can continue to exhibit your ignorance or take the time to understand that your forms aren't included because they haven't been approved. Once approved....they WILL be calculated in the reporting period that will eventually be published. Whining assed comments like it's a "crock of shit" aren't accurate and do no one a service. In fact, the ATF processing times HAVE historically been very accurate and are far more accurate over the last decade that I've been an SOT than NFA Tracker. You must work for the ATF as you are so heavily invested in this. I'm an FFL/SOT. Thats why the fuck I'm invested in this. Thinking I work for ATF because I'm more knowledgeable than you is ignorant pal. Grow the fuck up. It's my business to know what I know. I ain't some '15'er crying about his 154 day old e/Forms.........I've got pending paper forms from last March and eForms from January. The forum to bitch, whine and complain IS NOT HERE.......its here: https://www.ar15.com/forums/Armory/The-Official-NFA-complaint-thread/17-481346/ |
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Originally Posted By DogtownTom: Your post shows a complete and total ignorance of what ATF's current processing times average is and what it means. You can continue to exhibit your ignorance or take the time to understand that your forms aren't included because they haven't been approved. Once approved....they WILL be calculated in the reporting period that will eventually be published. Whining assed comments like it's a "crock of shit" aren't accurate and do no one a service. In fact, the ATF processing times HAVE historically been very accurate and are far more accurate over the last decade that I've been an SOT than NFA Tracker. I'm an FFL/SOT. Thats why the fuck I'm invested in this. Thinking I work for ATF because I'm more knowledgeable than you is ignorant pal. Grow the fuck up. It's my business to know what I know. I ain't some '15'er crying about his 154 day old e/Forms.........I've got pending paper forms from last March and eForms from January. The forum to bitch, whine and complain IS NOT HERE.......its here: https://www.ar15.com/forums/Armory/The-Official-NFA-complaint-thread/17-481346/ Originally Posted By DogtownTom: Originally Posted By Troger: Look Tom, not sure why your panties are in a bunch and the attitude. I know it's Monday, have you tried Pamprin or Midol. I posted my times so far the the latest info from the ATF website on this DISCUSSION forum. Your post shows a complete and total ignorance of what ATF's current processing times average is and what it means. You can continue to exhibit your ignorance or take the time to understand that your forms aren't included because they haven't been approved. Once approved....they WILL be calculated in the reporting period that will eventually be published. Whining assed comments like it's a "crock of shit" aren't accurate and do no one a service. In fact, the ATF processing times HAVE historically been very accurate and are far more accurate over the last decade that I've been an SOT than NFA Tracker. You must work for the ATF as you are so heavily invested in this. I'm an FFL/SOT. Thats why the fuck I'm invested in this. Thinking I work for ATF because I'm more knowledgeable than you is ignorant pal. Grow the fuck up. It's my business to know what I know. I ain't some '15'er crying about his 154 day old e/Forms.........I've got pending paper forms from last March and eForms from January. The forum to bitch, whine and complain IS NOT HERE.......its here: https://www.ar15.com/forums/Armory/The-Official-NFA-complaint-thread/17-481346/ Meanwhile the title of this thread is "Its been over 90 days now". Every forum has one like you that knows everything and is a smartass to everyone else. I don't give 2 fucks that you are a FFL/SOT. I didn't ask your opinion and certainly not your attitude. You started this back and forth.....pal. |
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Originally Posted By Troger: Meanwhile the title of this thread is "Its been over 90 days now". Every forum has one like you that knows everything and is a smartass to everyone else. Originally Posted By Troger: Meanwhile the title of this thread is "Its been over 90 days now". Every forum has one like you that knows everything and is a smartass to everyone else. I think from your posts no one will ever accuse you of being smart. I don't give 2 fucks that you are a FFL/SOT. I only mentioned it because you wrote "as you are so heavily invested in this". I didn't ask your opinion and certainly not your attitude. Yet you got it. Keep posting bullshit and you'll get it again. You started this back and forth.....pal. No sir, you did in your first post today. Objecting to the content of my post is one thing, but you sir, set the tone with your "ATF apologist" putdown. You skipped right over Nazi, communist and pedophile. |
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Originally Posted By Pyro556: 90 days is not guaranteed, but you should be close. I had an eForm 4 through SS approved yesterday that was 98 days. For better or for worse, SS has been playing up the 90 day number and cherry-picking very low wait time approvals on IG and YT. The average is likely around 90 days, but there’s going to be some that are longer and shorter. It doesn’t seem as if the ATF is doing first in first out. Was that calender days, or working days? SS now says 150 days updated today, as they work through their feb screw up back log. |
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Originally Posted By snakeyes711: Was that calender days, or working days? SS now says 150 days updated today, as they work through their feb screw up back log. NFA Div processes eForm and paper forms seven days a week. Pretty much calendar days. During Covid when NFA Examiners were working from home, I would see quite a few Sat/Sun approval dates. I remember one was July 4th. |
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85 DAYS! Form 4 Attached File I know, that's not much but I'm starting to get anxious. |
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Waiting excessive time frames for something that should by all accounts be considered a safety device…. Is lame. I can feel your pain as I have two cans in jail at the moment. Past the estimated 90 days. Truth is,,,, Silencer shop should not advertise 90 days as they have no control over when the ATF does anything.. I knew that going into this however, as my last paper form took over a year. That does not include the time it took to go to the police station to get fingerprinted the post office to get passport photos taken and then back to the police department to hand over LEO copies of the finished paper work… yada yada So their system is much improved over the old school methods no doubt… I certified my first E file may 3rd, and I am betting that I’ll get approved sometime in November or December. Sooner is better.. it might even take a little longer.. I will still be E forming another can in December regardless…. We can’t really blame anyone other then American public of 1934, for letting the NFA Act pass in the first place.. while I doubt we will ever be able to repeal it , not at least with the political state of this country. We need to stay active and try to educate folks so that same exact scenario does not happen again. Imagine doing this for a semi auto for example. So the fact we are irritated at this nonsense is good… it’s a cold hard slap to remind you what happens when you let politicians and special interest groups run amok …. Remember this nonsense every time you go to the polls or (better yet when you are thinking about not going to the polls). .. |
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Originally Posted By armoredsaint: 12-24-21 here for my Barrett QDL, SS delayed the cert process by over 90 days too with horrible communications and their CS DGAF Hey armoredsaint, reaching out in a dm to get more info about this, thanks for reaching out |
| Yeah, thats about right according to our tracker as well, what can are you waiting on? |
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Originally Posted By SilencerShop: Hey armoredsaint, reaching out in a dm to get more info about this, thanks for reaching out Originally Posted By SilencerShop: Originally Posted By armoredsaint: 12-24-21 here for my Barrett QDL, SS delayed the cert process by over 90 days too with horrible communications and their CS DGAF Hey armoredsaint, reaching out in a dm to get more info about this, thanks for reaching out |
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Originally Posted By armoredsaint: thanks for reaching out via PM, but at this point I am just extremely disappointed and it'll be my last silencer from SS and I have a total of 12 too. Originally Posted By armoredsaint: Originally Posted By SilencerShop: Originally Posted By armoredsaint: 12-24-21 here for my Barrett QDL, SS delayed the cert process by over 90 days too with horrible communications and their CS DGAF Hey armoredsaint, reaching out in a dm to get more info about this, thanks for reaching out |
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Originally Posted By BravoBravo55: @silencershop 4 cans certified on 12-27-21 and nothing so far as well, similar to ArmoredSaint Once certified, Silencer Shop has fuck all to do with anything. It's entirely ATF at that point. |
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Originally Posted By BravoBravo55: @silencershop 4 cans certified on 12-27-21 and nothing so far as well, similar to ArmoredSaint Sending you a DM as well @BravoBravo55 |
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Originally Posted By trio: I did e form for a can in the beginning of March. Did an e form for an SBR in the beginning of April. I've had rhe SBR since the middle of June Still waiting on the can It's the ATF. You can't apply logic or normal thinking to this |
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Originally Posted By BravoBravo55: Where do you work again so I can avoid it? Originally Posted By BravoBravo55: Originally Posted By DogtownTom: Once certified, Silencer Shop has fuck all to do with anything. It's entirely ATF at that point. Where do you work again so I can avoid it? Dont worry, I dont tolerate customers like you.
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Originally Posted By DogtownTom: Once certified, Silencer Shop has fuck all to do with anything. It's entirely ATF at that point. Originally Posted By DogtownTom: Originally Posted By BravoBravo55: @silencershop 4 cans certified on 12-27-21 and nothing so far as well, similar to ArmoredSaint Once certified, Silencer Shop has fuck all to do with anything. It's entirely ATF at that point. 
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