

Posted: 2/15/2021 4:28:25 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/15/2021 4:28:47 PM EDT by Screechjet1]
Standby for 15 to 30 minutes of rolling blackouts in the Kansas City area.
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"...I have a right to make sure that my home is secure." Lori Lightfoot, Mayor of Chicago
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Let the purge begin.
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This never happened under Trump.
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Whats this from??
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Originally Posted By Screechjet1: Standby for 15 to 30 minutes of rolling blackouts in the Kansas City area. View Quote Why? Other than the snow taking the power out. |
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Originally Posted By madmacs69: Why? Other than the snow taking the power out. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By madmacs69: Originally Posted By Screechjet1: Standby for 15 to 30 minutes of rolling blackouts in the Kansas City area. Why? Other than the snow taking the power out. They're saying to help conserve energy so the grid doesn't back up. Of course Wal Marts and Government buildings won't be affected ![]() |
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Originally Posted By bigbryce31186: They're saying to help conserve energy so the grid doesn't back up. Of course Wal Marts and Government buildings won't be affected ![]() View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By bigbryce31186: Originally Posted By madmacs69: Originally Posted By Screechjet1: Standby for 15 to 30 minutes of rolling blackouts in the Kansas City area. Why? Other than the snow taking the power out. They're saying to help conserve energy so the grid doesn't back up. Of course Wal Marts and Government buildings won't be affected ![]() Isn't that always the case ![]() Haven't had anything in lees summit yet, it's supposedly going on through noonish tomorrow from what I hear. |
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Originally Posted By Domnior: Isn't that always the case ![]() Haven't had anything in lees summit yet, it's supposedly going on through noonish tomorrow from what I hear. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Domnior: Originally Posted By bigbryce31186: Originally Posted By madmacs69: Originally Posted By Screechjet1: Standby for 15 to 30 minutes of rolling blackouts in the Kansas City area. Why? Other than the snow taking the power out. They're saying to help conserve energy so the grid doesn't back up. Of course Wal Marts and Government buildings won't be affected ![]() Isn't that always the case ![]() Haven't had anything in lees summit yet, it's supposedly going on through noonish tomorrow from what I hear. There's a thread in GD. Someone posted that they were stopping. No idea if they are resuming tomorrow or not. |
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The funny part was when the dude from Evergy or wherever was like "we all need to do our part" when asking people to lower their thermostat settings.
I'm hearing a lot of this "it takes a village" rhetoric lately... |
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Our electric was out from 9:30am -1:30pm today (Monday).
ETA: In KC. |
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Not a pilot, just like airplanes.
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Originally Posted By bigbryce31186: They're saying to help conserve energy so the grid doesn't back up. Of course Wal Marts and Government buildings won't be affected ![]() View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By bigbryce31186: Originally Posted By madmacs69: Originally Posted By Screechjet1: Standby for 15 to 30 minutes of rolling blackouts in the Kansas City area. Why? Other than the snow taking the power out. They're saying to help conserve energy so the grid doesn't back up. Of course Wal Marts and Government buildings won't be affected ![]() Lots of places like those plus spots like hospitals & cop houses have their own generators so they can keep operating. When I was looking into becoming a diesel mechanic hospitals were some of the highest paying jobs, they need to make sure them genny's are up 100% of the time. |
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...believe in me, I'm with the High Command.
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They killed our power at 6:50 as the wife was TRYING to get ready for work. She was a half hour late!
How about some more Wind Turbines to freeze up or Solar Panels to collect snow and fail! ![]() This didn’t happen in 1986 when it was -20 for 5 days! |
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Originally Posted By Quantrills_Raiders: The funny part was when the dude from Evergy or wherever was like "we all need to do our part" when asking people to lower their thermostat settings. I'm hearing a lot of this "it takes a village" rhetoric lately... View Quote Been seeing that a lot lately as well. |
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Originally Posted By DoverGunner: To Hell with Evergy and the rest of the power companies. How about them do their part and maintain/upgrade the grid lol Our part is to use what they supply. Not make up and suffer for their incompetence. View Quote You ain't wrong. The flip side to this is that after a major "storm" type event lot's of folks are reminded that without those "ugly" powerlines on their property that require maintenance that is often aggravating for the landowner, the grid cannot be maintained and/or upgraded. Not that anyone in the HTF needed a reminder. Hopefully the worst is behind us and everyone's lights stay on through today's band of snow. |
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"When you need it and ain't got it, you're singin' a different tune..."
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Isn't Missouri tied into the national grid? The only reason that they can't keep powered up is that the power lines and equipment isn't up to carrying capacity. We can always get power from the tie-ins from other generating stations. So why should there be any rolling blackouts? I must decide that the current built system is undersized.
Texas had their problems because they are pretty much a stand-alone state when it comes to the electrical grid. And not prepared for that type of winter weather. But what could be Missouri's excuse? |
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...if all the people with a conscience refuse to fight then it will leave the battlefields in the hands of men without conscience...Missionary Peter Hammond
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Originally Posted By dab2: Isn't Missouri tied into the national grid? The only reason that they can't keep powered up is that the power lines and equipment isn't up to carrying capacity. We can always get power from the tie-ins from other generating stations. So why should there be any rolling blackouts? I must decide that the current built system is undersized. Texas had their problems because they are pretty much a stand-alone state when it comes to the electrical grid. And not prepared for that type of winter weather. But what could be Missouri's excuse? View Quote It's a complex question with a complex answer. I am far from an expert, but in MO you have lots of players in the game. The cooperatives all have ties to each other. The cooperatives also have ties to investor owned utilities such as Ameren MO and Entergy (or whatever the former KCP&L is now). I assume that the investor owned utilities tie to each other as well. Then you also have municipalities that are normally tied into someone else for their generation. So in short, yes we are tied into a grid. If there isn't enough power, the simple reason why is deficiencies in the distribution, transmission and/or generation. Normally (in the Midwest anyhow), whenever there is a deficiency in transmission or generation, it can be overcome with ties to other utilities. In order to never have any deficiencies, you need distribution, transmission and generation that can handle any issue that comes up at any time. Generation deficiencies include frozen up windmills that can't turn, solar panels covered with snow, natural gas plants with frozen up gas lines and/or an issue with a coal plant being supplied with coal. Transmission and distribution issues include problems at substations and their lines. Many of the issues that brought on these blackouts probably could and should have been prevented. It should also be said though, that to cover every contingency that could happen 100% of the time would require a significant investment. How overkill do you go? The obvious answer right now is, enough that there would be no rolling blackout. |
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"When you need it and ain't got it, you're singin' a different tune..."
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Originally Posted By PursuitSS: They killed our power at 6:50 as the wife was TRYING to get ready for work. She was a half hour late! How about some more Wind Turbines to freeze up or Solar Panels to collect snow and fail! ![]() This didn’t happen in 1986 when it was -20 for 5 days! View Quote There weren't as many one family homes full of 20 illegals in 86. |
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Originally Posted By PursuitSS: They killed our power at 6:50 as the wife was TRYING to get ready for work. She was a half hour late! How about some more Wind Turbines to freeze up or Solar Panels to collect snow and fail! ![]() This didn’t happen in 1986 when it was -20 for 5 days! View Quote Here is something worth watching: https://www.prageru.com/video/whats-wrong-with-wind-and-solar/ |
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...if all the people with a conscience refuse to fight then it will leave the battlefields in the hands of men without conscience...Missionary Peter Hammond
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Originally Posted By dab2: Isn't Missouri tied into the national grid? The only reason that they can't keep powered up is that the power lines and equipment isn't up to carrying capacity. We can always get power from the tie-ins from other generating stations. So why should there be any rolling blackouts? I must decide that the current built system is undersized. Texas had their problems because they are pretty much a stand-alone state when it comes to the electrical grid. And not prepared for that type of winter weather. But what could be Missouri's excuse? View Quote The Texas issue isn't that simple. ![]() Failed To Load Title |
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Originally Posted By HellioN: The Texas issue isn't that simple. ![]() View Quote I like Eric July. I don't watch him on his platform but I watch him on BLAZE as a commentator/contributor. As a retired employee of an electric/natural gas utility I will stand by my thought that it was a combination of under-capacity infrastructure and supply. I don't believe it has anything to do with who controls the grid...read ERCOT here. When Can A Blackout Occur? The most common reason for rolling blackouts is that demand for power outstrips supply. Contributing factors might include the following: Power production problems Fuel shortages Outdated infrastructure Natural disasters Energy crises stemming from natural or man-made sources When a city or region experiences rapid population growth, local utilities may occasionally struggle to keep up with the increasing demand for energy, especially during the extreme hot and cold temperatures of the summer and winter months. By interrupting service to a portion of its service area, the utility can usually prevent a complete failure to the entire grid. Utility officials understand that a power outage is inconvenient, costly, and for some folks, even dangerous. When demand for electricity strains available capacity, the first response is to promote conservation during peak demand periods. Local officials may encourage residents to adjust the thermostat, avoid using power-hungry appliances, and turn off lights. If conservation efforts fall short of addressing the problem, the power company may implement brownouts, which involve a reduction in the amount of electricity produced, but not a complete blackout. A brownout can cause lights to dim or flicker, and some appliances to operate less efficiently. Rolling blackouts are used as a last resort and the company will cut power to as few customers as possible for the shortest period of time necessary to preserve the stability of the whole grid. |
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...if all the people with a conscience refuse to fight then it will leave the battlefields in the hands of men without conscience...Missionary Peter Hammond
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...believe in me, I'm with the High Command.
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Originally Posted By dab2: the power company may implement brownouts, which involve a reduction in the amount of electricity produced, but not a complete blackout. A brownout can cause lights to dim or flicker, and some appliances to operate less efficiently. View Quote AND can burn out Three Phase Motors due do to Single Phasing. |
"When trading bullets it is better to give than to receive" _____________________
"People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf." - George Orwell |
...if all the people with a conscience refuse to fight then it will leave the battlefields in the hands of men without conscience...Missionary Peter Hammond
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