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Posted: 8/9/2022 10:21:57 PM EDT
[Last Edit: JPNY23]
I’m leaving for Texas in September from LaGuardia for our yearly boar hunt.  Usually we drive but this time the crew decided to book flights.  The airline we are flying accepts firearms and TSA gave me the run down regarding the packing and checking in of the rifle, pistol and ammo.  I’m concerned about bringing my AR and pistol into NYC and getting jammed up when the TSA agent checks the AR and Pistol in.  I do not have a NYC permit (I have a westchester full carry) and I know ARs are illegal in NYC.  I called the Port Authority Police and the officer I spoke to said he “believes” and “thinks” that if I follow the TSA rules I will be fine.  Anyone travel with their ARs and or pistols through LaGuardia or Kennedy?  What was your experience?

My AR is NY compliant, pinned 10 round mag.

Haven’t been on a plane for 24 years now so I’m oblivious to the changes in air travel, especially after 9/11.
Link Posted: 8/9/2022 10:57:44 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 8/10/2022 6:49:50 AM EDT
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Any flights from WC County airport?
Link Posted: 8/10/2022 8:27:23 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 0612Devil] [#3]
I don’t have a NYC permit and flew out of JFK a few months ago with my Glock 19.  No issues at all, PAPD was professional.

AR might be interesting since there is a magazine pinned in the rifle(they make a big deal of ensuring everything is unloaded) but overall I don’t think you’ll have a problem.

Pre-SAFE, I flew out of one of the city airports with two Prebans, Night Vision, 30 rounders etc… with no problems.
Link Posted: 8/10/2022 9:27:08 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By batjka104:
Any flights from WC County airport?
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There are but nothing direct.  Stewart has none.
Link Posted: 8/10/2022 9:42:05 AM EDT
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Is it possible to ship them via an FFL to Texas instead?
Link Posted: 8/10/2022 9:47:38 AM EDT
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@fis223 & 0612devil, that’s what I’m afraid of, the AR creating problems.
Link Posted: 8/10/2022 10:12:53 AM EDT
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Last I saw in NYC law, you could actually spend 24 hours in NYC while travelling through, even with "assault weapons."

So technically legal (last I saw)...
Link Posted: 8/10/2022 11:20:35 AM EDT
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I wouldn't go anywhere near a NYC airport with an AR or Handgun, many do not understand the law & its too easy to get jammed up. I would overnight my firearms to myself at my destination.
Link Posted: 8/10/2022 11:43:57 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By garr:
I wouldn't go anywhere near a NYC airport with an AR or Handgun, many do not understand the law & its too easy to get jammed up. I would overnight my firearms to myself at my destination.
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Normally a better plan but lately UPS has been disappearing firearms and ammunition, damned if you do and potentially arrested if you don't.  Quite a conundrum OP.   Is there any possibility of someone in TX lending you a lower?  You could ship the upper, etc. to yourself without having to identify it as a "firearm" via UPS.
Link Posted: 8/10/2022 6:22:43 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By NonTypical361:
Is it possible to ship them via an FFL to Texas instead?
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Why would you use an FFL and go through NICS and a 4473? You can legally ship a firearm from yourself to yourself at another address. As long as a transfer to another individual is not taking place you are GTG.
Link Posted: 8/10/2022 11:48:09 PM EDT
[Last Edit: JPNY23] [#11]
Thanks for the replies fellas.  I'm going to go the shipping to myself route before I leave; seems like the safest way.
Link Posted: 8/11/2022 7:02:44 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Aardvark:
Why would you use an FFL and go through NICS and a 4473? You can legally ship a firearm from yourself to yourself at another address. As long as a transfer to another individual is not taking place you are GTG.
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I wasn’t aware of that. I guess it would have to go UPS? I thought that an FFL could ship without having to do a 4473. Either way, shipping it does sound like the way to go.
To the OP, please let us know how it works out.
Link Posted: 8/11/2022 10:21:29 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By NonTypical361:

I wasn't aware of that. I guess it would have to go UPS? I thought that an FFL could ship without having to do a 4473.
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I believe (someone correct me) that if an FFL takes in a firearm from someone they have to log it in. Otherwise when the ATF drops in for a surprise audit, they ask what the off-book firearm is doing there. Probably some exceptions but with the way ATF is going after every little paperwork issue these days I would be worried if I were an FFL.

As for shipping to yourself, you have to use whatever carrier allows for shipping of a firearm and follow their rules. On the receiving end, someone can receive the package for you but they MAY NOT open it as that would imply a transfer of ownership. They must hold it for you, unopened,.
Link Posted: 8/23/2022 8:46:05 AM EDT
[Last Edit: lostinboston] [#14]
Depending on the specific agent you get, the process will vary. They don’t exactly train their employees to deal with this. Print and bring a physical copy of the laws, rules, regulation, processes, etc. from tsa, airline, etc websites.  They will likely first say that you can’t fly with them or something stupid.  Show them their own regulations and local laws that you can. Then they will want the key to inspect it in private.  They are not supposed to do that. They need to inspect it in front of you. If they want to go to a private room with you that may be ok.  Make sure the firearm case has a non-tsa lock and only you have control of the key at all times. This will piss of the agent who thinks you are not “respecting his authority”, so it will add a lot of time to your check-in.  It’s 100% legal and they need to learn and practice the process.  Small cases are usually packed in a larger suitcase - padlock on the case, tsa lock on the suitcase. Large rifle cases I always checked on their own.  Sometimes the airline makes you pick these up in a special room, sometimes they go on the conveyor belt.  Durable hard sided case with padlock hole like a Pelican are a must.  Thin metal cases with their own key can easily be dented and pried open.

Eta: it may be a good idea to breakdown your rifle and pack it as 2 pieces in the case.  That would help with showing that it’s not loaded.
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