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Posted: 1/31/2021 1:54:46 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 3one5: Picked up a new platform for my Fauxland, just need another RMR. https://i.imgur.com/gXydYLu.jpg Metal-framed Roland Specials are best Roland Specials  Is that the OZ9C with the fullsize grip module? |
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Posted: 1/31/2021 2:08:38 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Rudukai13: Metal-framed Roland Specials are best Roland Specials Is that the OZ9C with the fullsize grip module? Agree 
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Posted: 1/31/2021 12:38:00 PM EDT
[Last Edit: sconnieVLP]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AliasSLH: do you have a kkm setup? My 19.4 with KKM setup and stock springs runs cheap 115gr like a sewing machine. |
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Posted: 1/31/2021 12:39:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By sconnieVLP: My 19.4 with KKM setup and stock springs runs cheap 115gr like a sewing machine. |
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Posted: 1/31/2021 4:22:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LsuJon: Lucky, though I've only tried 115 blazer w/ mine it did not like it at all. 115gr Blazer Brass is the bulk of my stash so I’m glad it runs well through my Fauxland. |
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Posted: 1/31/2021 4:25:05 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/31/2021 7:57:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LsuJon: Lucky, though I've only tried 115 blazer w/ mine it did not like it at all. Is there a discussion for ammo choice for kkm roland specials? and be specific for generation, type of ammo, g19 length barrel and such? |
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Posted: 2/4/2021 12:45:05 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 3one5]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Rudukai13: Metal-framed Roland Specials are best Roland Specials Is that the OZ9C with the fullsize grip module? It is! Absolutely love the setup! Been wanting to go this direction since the OZ9 Compact came out. I had been waiting for them to release the compact rail alone but grew impatient :) |
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Posted: 2/4/2021 12:46:07 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By kodiak61: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/318644/2E0BA004-58BE-4225-82F5-DB3AB092B61A_jpe-1805090.JPG Roland Gone Gucci Nice setup! |
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CO, USA
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Posted: 2/4/2021 4:08:07 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By kodiak61: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/318644/2E0BA004-58BE-4225-82F5-DB3AB092B61A_jpe-1805090.JPG Roland Gone Gucci  Any shooting video from anyone who has an OZ9 Roland? |
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Posted: 2/4/2021 10:38:21 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Rudukai13: https://i.imgur.com/qllqlFf.gif?noredirect Any shooting video from anyone who has an OZ9 Roland? I'll grab some next time I'm out. Shot mine last weekend and was super happy with it. Prior to moving over to the OZ9 I needed to run 124gr nato ammo for it to run properly. After moving over to the OZ9 it functions fine with 115 bulk. |
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Posted: 2/5/2021 4:40:57 AM EDT
[Last Edit: WTFShane]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AliasSLH: do you have a kkm setup? @AliasSLH Yes. Sorry for the late response. |
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Posted: 2/6/2021 8:37:45 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/6/2021 8:47:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By sconnieVLP: My 19.4 with KKM setup and stock springs runs cheap 115gr like a sewing machine. Huh. My 19.3/KKM wouldn’t run anything under 124. |
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Posted: 2/7/2021 6:43:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BePhreed: Huh. My 19.3/KKM wouldn’t run anything under 124. I had bought a few cases of 124gr in anticipation of getting that pistol put together, but forgot to grab it for a range trip and only brought 115gr. Tried in my Fauxland and was pleasantly surprised at how well it ran. |
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CO, USA
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Posted: 2/7/2021 8:32:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Airborne_Infantryman: Did some tweaks to the OZ9 Fauxland- https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/241023/20210202_155406-01_jpeg-1813907.JPG  MOAR OZ9 ROLANDS 
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Posted: 2/7/2021 9:51:30 PM EDT
[Last Edit: -KentuckyWindage-]
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They are good looking I can not lie.  |
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Posted: 2/8/2021 11:00:28 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/9/2021 2:49:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AliasSLH: I have done quite a bit of research before I even started my build and I am well aware I need 124g or 147g ammo or to change the recoil spring to a different one to run low pressure ammo reliably. So in this time of BS and ammo issues I need help, I have built a g19.5FS Roland Special and I have a small pile of 124G ammo and an even smaller pile of gold dot 124g HP KKM comp and barrel Jagerwerks rmr cut irons forward RMR06 X300ultra Everything else is 100% stock, In order to run the trash ammo I can find what recoil spring would yall suggest I try so as I dont waste resources to see if its reliable? Also What trash ammo have you found that can run in a RS of this kind? My RSA is as shiny as when I got the gun so I actually may run into issues with 124g nato ammo that I have. I finished my build and the damn morons out there started hording ammo just to price gouge us later like we see now as they did with TP and hand sanitizer last year. So what are yall doing in this time of bullshit to keep your roland running now and in the event of full collapse what can I do? I do know here pics required so I really hope the link works https://img.mewe.com/api/v2/photo/zlm5GPXT1o0JifpUCsT3qzrfa-Pwh2c_OPV3oNB_epxgDhQcgNkXXDtxnPk/800x800/img?static=0 edit ok so the image shows up in preview but clicking the link seems to work yet it doesnt show the image in the post. 13lb worked with the low end 115gr ammo I had around. I may go back up in spring weight now that I run it on the Zev OZ9 frame. Seems to be a lot smoother and not need such a light spring even with the lower end ammo. |
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Posted: 2/9/2021 2:50:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By sconnieVLP: Got the Agency magwell in a few days ago. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/338594/4293FD18-21AA-4712-A68D-ED64100292E8-1799265.jpg I really like the Agency Arms magwell. Clean and functional. |
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Posted: 2/9/2021 5:47:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 3one5: 13lb worked with the low end 115gr ammo I had around. I may go back up in spring weight now that I run it on the Zev OZ9 frame. Seems to be a lot smoother and not need such a light spring even with the lower end ammo. Any lighter and I think you'd start to run into RTB issues, any heavier and mine didn't cycle 115gr range ammo reliably. I've recently started to carry my Roland after being nervous about reliability in the past. Nothing has changed, but I've put enough rounds through it to feel confident at this point. |
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Posted: 2/10/2021 4:27:35 PM EDT
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Where do you suggest I get different rsa's?
It's a g19.5 Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 135Patriots: 13lbs has been the sweet spot for me in terms of ensuring reliable cycling while providing enough return force to get the slide back into battery as it gets dirty and slows down. Any lighter and I think you'd start to run into RTB issues, any heavier and mine didn't cycle 115gr range ammo reliably. I've recently started to carry my Roland after being nervous about reliability in the past. Nothing has changed, but I've put enough rounds through it to feel confident at this point. |
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TN, USA
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Posted: 2/10/2021 5:28:28 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 135Patriots]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AliasSLH: Where do you suggest I get different rsa's? It's a g19.5 The 15lb spring was about 70% reliable with range ammo - my guess is that it would be have been fine with defensive loadings but I needed something that would run with any and all brass ammo. Lord knows I'm not shooting 200 rounds of JHP per range trip nowadays. Small tip: I found that the 19x ejector helped substantially with kicking out spent cases; the factory ejector dribbled them out and that wasn't acceptable given the slower/less energetic slide velocity due to the comp doing its job. It's a cheap part that takes two minutes to install. If you remind me, I can grab the PN for you. ETA: The 19x ejector may be the same ejector found in all 9mm double stack G5 Glocks, so please check that before ordering one. Don't wanna waste your time/money. |
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Posted: 2/10/2021 8:56:33 PM EDT
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Gat cat
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Posted: 2/11/2021 7:33:45 AM EDT
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Kookoo
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 135Patriots: Mine is a G4 but I think the recoil springs are identical - I use an NDZ setup that essentially accepts G3 springs in a G4 sized and captured rod. You're giving up the 'dual spring' design in exchange for variable spring rates; I'm not aware of any G4/5 dual springs in variable weights. The springs I use are ISMI. The 15lb spring was about 70% reliable with range ammo - my guess is that it would be have been fine with defensive loadings but I needed something that would run with any and all brass ammo. Lord knows I'm not shooting 200 rounds of JHP per range trip nowadays. Small tip: I found that the 19x ejector helped substantially with kicking out spent cases; the factory ejector dribbled them out and that wasn't acceptable given the slower/less energetic slide velocity due to the comp doing its job. It's a cheap part that takes two minutes to install. If you remind me, I can grab the PN for you. ETA: The 19x ejector may be the same ejector found in all 9mm double stack G5 Glocks, so please check that before ordering one. Don't wanna waste your time/money. |
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Posted: 2/18/2021 11:57:56 PM EDT
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Any one have experience w/ a g34 w/ a kkm comp?
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Posted: 2/19/2021 10:12:43 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LsuJon: Any one have experience w/ a g34 w/ a kkm comp? Chuck recommends against it. 9mm is too weak for it. OK for a G35. |
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Posted: 2/19/2021 10:59:17 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LsuJon: Any one have experience w/ a g34 w/ a kkm comp? I stuck a TBRC comp on my 34 MOS once. All I had at the time was PMC Bronze 115gr. It worked but the brass was bouncing off the optic as the slide cycled forward. I think some hotter ammo, or maybe a recoil spring change, would have improved things but I never messed with it any further and wound up sticking the comp on a 19. |
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Posted: 3/9/2021 11:07:53 PM EDT
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Posted: 3/9/2021 11:15:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LsuJon: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/316069/F5196DA8-16F4-40D3-BD01-578112AB661D_jpe-1859333.JPG still forever searching for the magwell   Attached File |
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Posted: 3/9/2021 11:25:22 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 3one5]
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Just ordered the rmr for my other slide!
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Posted: 3/10/2021 6:14:53 PM EDT
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I did contact Raven Concealment about the Freya Magwell and they said production may resume in the future but no ETA... not holding my breath but I'm hopeful
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Posted: 3/10/2021 7:16:45 PM EDT
[Last Edit: -KentuckyWindage-]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LsuJon: I did contact Raven Concealment about the Freya Magwell and they said production may resume in the future but no ETA... not holding my breath but I'm hopeful Interesting...well I could use 3 more |
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Posted: 3/11/2021 12:11:51 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By -KentuckyWindage-: Interesting...well I could use 3 more I don't get why they won't do another run. I'd say the demand is there. |
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CO, USA
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Posted: 3/11/2021 2:05:02 AM EDT
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I want to preface this by saying I intend no judgment or ill will when I ask this question:
Can someone explain the need/desire behind getting the exact magwell of Chuck’s original RS? Why does it have to be that precise? There are plenty of great, even arguably better magwells readily available on the market these days. What makes the Freya so special? |
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Posted: 3/11/2021 2:25:48 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Rudukai13: I want to preface this by saying I intend no judgment or ill will when I ask this question: Can someone explain the need/desire behind getting the exact magwell of Chuck's original RS? Why does it have to be that precise? There are plenty of great, even arguably better magwells readily available on the market these days. What makes the Freya so special? . Went through all the trouble and extra money to get it done by ATEI and I just don't wanna stray away on such a simple piece.
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CO, USA
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Posted: 3/11/2021 4:45:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LsuJon: Simple answer is clone . Went through all the trouble and extra money to get it done by ATEI and I just don't wanna stray away on such a simple piece.Fair enough. Clone builds aren’t really my thing but I get the desire |
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Posted: 3/11/2021 9:11:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Rudukai13: Fair enough. Clone builds aren’t really my thing but I get the desire Then why are you hanging out in a clone build thread? |
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Posted: 3/11/2021 9:25:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Xhado: Then why are you hanging out in a clone build thread? |
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Posted: 3/11/2021 9:53:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LsuJon: In his defense it is also a "faux-land" thread, which pretty much means any comped RDS sight Exactly. This thread was never stated as a clone thread. It was a place to discuss the original build and the subsequent proliferation of "practical open" guns that utilize Comps, lights, & RDS on a gun heated towards carry our duty not gaming. |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 3/13/2021 4:57:56 PM EDT
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What’s everyone running for holsters? Am I correct in thinking that they use any old G34 holster? So I’d just order a kydex for a G34 with X300U and optic cut?
I think I’m going to do a “fauxland” build with a G19X. Basically the ATEI slide work only (may not do the top serrations), PVD refinish, RMR06, KKM barrel and comp, and either a X300U or TLR-1HL. I remember shooting a buddies Roland (pretty sure it was a ATEI package gun) a while ago and being amazed at how it shot, it shot noticeably faster and flatter than the G34.4MOS with RMR06, X300U, and KKM barrel (non threaded, no porting or comp) that I had at the time. I just recall not really caring for the length with the G19 grip since the G19 is already way small for my hands. I never put a comp on a 17 or 34 because I didn’t want the length or deal with finding holsters for it, but a G19X or G45 with a high quality comp’d barrel that fits in standard holsters is an idea I could get behind. |
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Posted: 3/13/2021 5:03:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By hiih8r: What’s everyone running for holsters? Am I correct in thinking that they use any old G34 holster? So I’d just order a kydex for a G34 with X300U and optic cut? I think I’m going to do a “fauxland” build with a G19X. Basically the ATEI slide work only (may not do the top serrations), PVD refinish, RMR06, KKM barrel and comp, and either a X300U or TLR-1HL. I remember shooting a buddies Roland (pretty sure it was a ATEI package gun) a while ago and being amazed at how it shot, it shot noticeably faster and flatter than the G34.4MOS with RMR06, X300U, and KKM barrel (non threaded, no porting or comp) that I had at the time. I just recall not really caring for the length with the G19 grip since the G19 is already way small for my hands. I never put a comp on a 17 or 34 because I didn’t want the length or deal with finding holsters for it, but a G19X or G45 with a high quality comp’d barrel that fits in standard holsters is an idea I could get behind. A comped 19 length gun will fit a G34 holster. Now that the G45 and G19X exist, thats the way to go for a comped gun base. |
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CO, USA
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Posted: 3/13/2021 8:50:54 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Rudukai13]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Xhado: Then why are you hanging out in a clone build thread?  Stirring the shit, mostly No actually I do enjoy seeing all the different approaches everyone has for building up a gun based on a particular concept while adapting it to their personal preferences/needs. I might not be a Glock or clone builder, but it doesn’t mean I can’t appreciate the work that goes into one. I guess I’m less of a “clone of” than an “inspired by” kind of tinkerer |
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Posted: 3/13/2021 9:36:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Rudukai13: https://content.invisioncic.com/r270761/monthly_2021_02/0EEAE921-D3FD-4D66-9A22-884A8F7BAAA0.jpeg.31d78efaa848c16f29ebbe3869b83781.jpeg Stirring the shit, mostly No actually I do enjoy seeing all the different approaches everyone has for building up a gun based on a particular concept while adapting it to their personal preferences/needs. I might not be a Glock or clone builder, but it doesn’t mean I can’t appreciate the work that goes into one. I guess I’m less of a “clone of” than an “inspired by” kind of tinkerer  Attached File |
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CO, USA
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Posted: 3/15/2021 6:24:56 PM EDT
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Apologies for the Sig interruption everyone, back to Glock-based Rolands in the Glock subforum
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Posted: 3/16/2021 5:04:25 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 3one5]
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Second RMR is in and installed. Now to acquire the Long and Extra Long slides for the OZ-9... I suppose that means two more RMR's as well :/
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Posted: 3/16/2021 5:06:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By hiih8r: What’s everyone running for holsters? Am I correct in thinking that they use any old G34 holster? So I’d just order a kydex for a G34 with X300U and optic cut? I think I’m going to do a “fauxland” build with a G19X. Basically the ATEI slide work only (may not do the top serrations), PVD refinish, RMR06, KKM barrel and comp, and either a X300U or TLR-1HL. I remember shooting a buddies Roland (pretty sure it was a ATEI package gun) a while ago and being amazed at how it shot, it shot noticeably faster and flatter than the G34.4MOS with RMR06, X300U, and KKM barrel (non threaded, no porting or comp) that I had at the time. I just recall not really caring for the length with the G19 grip since the G19 is already way small for my hands. I never put a comp on a 17 or 34 because I didn’t want the length or deal with finding holsters for it, but a G19X or G45 with a high quality comp’d barrel that fits in standard holsters is an idea I could get behind. Correct on the 34 holster length. I really like the full size grip. One of the reasons I went with the OZ9 compact was the ability to run the shorter 19 length slide with full size grip. |
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Posted: 3/19/2021 6:29:54 PM EDT
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My Fuaxland
 Gen 5 G19 MOS Legion Shorty Comp V2 Overwatch Have Blue Magwell Streamlight TLR1 (need to get another black on) Kagwerks slide stop GGP threaded barrel FCD plate RMR RM09 |
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Posted: 3/20/2021 10:33:42 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By monkeypunch: My Fuaxland https://i.imgur.com/Ey4q6rn.jpg Gen 5 G19 MOS Legion Shorty Comp V2 Overwatch Have Blue Magwell Streamlight TLR1 (need to get another black on) Kagwerks slide stop GGP threaded barrel FCD plate RMR RM09 Nice! How does it shoot? It is happier with one load over another? |
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Posted: 3/20/2021 11:38:31 AM EDT
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Roland Clone and Friends.
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