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Posted: 4/19/2024 7:17:33 AM EDT
How is the 47 doing out there ? What's the Boarder Patrol guys think of there new G/47 after having HK , 40 cal so long ???
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FL, USA
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Posted: 4/24/2024 8:02:35 PM EDT
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Giving this a bump because I’m also interested.
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USA
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Posted: 4/25/2024 5:14:38 AM EDT
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Yes you would think some guys would jump in ! I wanted one when they first came out !
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USA
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Posted: 4/25/2024 5:15:52 AM EDT
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Yes you would think some guys would jump in ! I wanted one when they first came out !
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Posted: 4/25/2024 5:28:05 AM EDT
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I haven’t even seen a 47 yet in real life
Tell me more. 
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Posted: 4/25/2024 5:30:40 AM EDT
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Just got mine yesterday. Haven’t had time to shoot it.
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Posted: 4/25/2024 6:20:30 AM EDT
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Posted: 4/25/2024 9:52:51 AM EDT
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I do not see any advantage over the 17.
You're getting a G19 length RSA in a G17. Why? You're also getting a shorter dustcover. Why? This was Glock's way of selling more guns. Period. They've discontinued the Gen5 17MOS. Departments who want uniformity will have to convert to the 47MOS. This one is about money. It is, arguably, an inferior product. Shorter RSA = shorter RSA durability. |
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Posted: 4/25/2024 10:03:45 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GaryT1776: I do not see any advantage over the 17. You're getting a G19 length RSA in a G17. Why? You're also getting a shorter dustcover. Why? This was Glock's way of selling more guns. Period. They've discontinued the Gen5 17MOS. Departments who want uniformity will have to convert to the 47MOS. This one is about money. It is, arguably, an inferior product. Shorter RSA = shorter RSA durability. If you have a 47 and a g19.5 You can make a G45 and a G49 sized guns. Parts compatibility with G19 is why the BP wanted it. |
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USA
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Posted: 4/25/2024 10:09:20 AM EDT
[Last Edit: GaryT1776]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By -Ascent-: If you have a 47 and a g19.5 You can make a G45 and a G49 sized guns. Parts compatibility with G19 is why the BP wanted it. I've always been the guy that would just buy a complete new AR instead of a spare upper. The lower (or frame germane to this conversation) is a very inexpensive part. For an armorer, I guess only having one RSA and one frame to stock is a benefit, but those are the only non-compatible parts between the 17 and 19. The 47 uses a different barrel than the 19 (same as 17). Two extra parts to stock ... is that worth reduced durability? Not for me, but apparently for the Border Patrol. We all know the Government does a great job of selecting firearms. M14 over FAL Beretta 92 over Sig P226 Mk23 over USP (HK kept promoting the USP in lieu of the 23 but .gov wanted their plastic Desert Eagle) Sig 320 ND-Special over Glock or HK Sig Spear firing a wildcat cartridge with EXTREME chamber pressure (80k ... 7.62NATO is usually 50k) over take your pick (e.g. LMT MARS-H DI or piston, product-improved SCAR-H, etc etc etc). |
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Posted: 4/25/2024 10:53:12 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GaryT1776: I do not see any advantage over the 17. It is, arguably, an inferior product. Shorter RSA = shorter RSA durability. Lots of other people see the advantage. If you don't see it, that's up to you. If you're that worked up over changing a $12 part before you think it should be changed, I don't know what to say. A department with any level of confidence will be changing out the RSAs as recommended and will not have any issues 
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Posted: 4/25/2024 10:58:30 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GaryT1776: I've always been the guy that would just buy a complete new AR instead of a spare upper. The lower (or frame germane to this conversation) is a very inexpensive part. For an armorer, I guess only having one RSA and one frame to stock is a benefit, but those are the only non-compatible parts between the 17 and 19. The 47 uses a different barrel than the 19 (same as 17). Two extra parts to stock ... is that worth reduced durability? Not for me, but apparently for the Border Patrol. We all know the Government does a great job of selecting firearms. M14 over FAL Beretta 92 over Sig P226 Mk23 over USP (HK kept promoting the USP in lieu of the 23 but .gov wanted their plastic Desert Eagle) Sig 320 ND-Special over Glock or HK Sig Spear firing a wildcat cartridge with EXTREME chamber pressure (80k ... 7.62NATO is usually 50k) over take your pick (e.g. LMT MARS-H DI or piston, product-improved SCAR-H, etc etc etc). Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GaryT1776: Originally Posted By -Ascent-: If you have a 47 and a g19.5 You can make a G45 and a G49 sized guns. Parts compatibility with G19 is why the BP wanted it. I've always been the guy that would just buy a complete new AR instead of a spare upper. The lower (or frame germane to this conversation) is a very inexpensive part. For an armorer, I guess only having one RSA and one frame to stock is a benefit, but those are the only non-compatible parts between the 17 and 19. The 47 uses a different barrel than the 19 (same as 17). Two extra parts to stock ... is that worth reduced durability? Not for me, but apparently for the Border Patrol. We all know the Government does a great job of selecting firearms. M14 over FAL Beretta 92 over Sig P226 Mk23 over USP (HK kept promoting the USP in lieu of the 23 but .gov wanted their plastic Desert Eagle) Sig 320 ND-Special over Glock or HK Sig Spear firing a wildcat cartridge with EXTREME chamber pressure (80k ... 7.62NATO is usually 50k) over take your pick (e.g. LMT MARS-H DI or piston, product-improved SCAR-H, etc etc etc). Im not hear to convince you of anything. I don't think the 19 RSA is going to be an issue in the G47. Dont really care what the government is doing. The gun just exist because it's what they asked for. |
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USA
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Posted: 4/25/2024 12:41:11 PM EDT
[Last Edit: GaryT1776]
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I apologize if my tone sounded argumentative. It was not intended that way.
This is another Glock move that I simply don't see need for. The $12 argument could be made the other direction. What's the big deal about having two RSA in inventory? Regardless, Glock won't make changes that actually have unquestionable value (like adding a light rail to the dust cover of the 26) but will offer hybrid models of dubious "improvement" value. Glock has really become the HK of the handgun world. HK was always known for just designing something when a large agency or .gov entity requested it. The commercial consumers were largely ignored. Glock hasn't really changed anything since 1983. There is absolutely zero reason why Glock could not improve their ergonomics, offer a metal "high capacity" magazine for the 43/43X/48, add a light rail to the dust cover of the 26, etc. HK on the other hand, has become very commercial consumer focused. Instead we get a 19 slide on a 17 frame and then a 17 slide on a 19 frame. That is so cutting edge and innovative that I have no reason to even consider offerings by Sig, Canik, HK, Springfield, Walther, etc (all of which have superior ergonomics, capacity, innovation / improvement, and simple "features" that should be OEM on every handgun sold like light rails). |
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Posted: 4/25/2024 2:10:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GaryT1776: I apologize if my tone sounded argumentative. It was not intended that way. This is another Glock move that I simply don't see need for. The $12 argument could be made the other direction. What's the big deal about having two RSA in inventory? Regardless, Glock won't make changes that actually have unquestionable value (like adding a light rail to the dust cover of the 26) but will offer hybrid models of dubious "improvement" value. Glock has really become the HK of the handgun world. HK was always known for just designing something when a large agency or .gov entity requested it. The commercial consumers were largely ignored. Glock hasn't really changed anything since 1983. There is absolutely zero reason why Glock could not improve their ergonomics, offer a metal "high capacity" magazine for the 43/43X/48, add a light rail to the dust cover of the 26, etc. HK on the other hand, has become very commercial consumer focused. Instead we get a 19 slide on a 17 frame and then a 17 slide on a 19 frame. That is so cutting edge and innovative that I have no reason to even consider offerings by Sig, Canik, HK, Springfield, Walther, etc (all of which have superior ergonomics, capacity, innovation / improvement, and simple "features" that should be OEM on every handgun sold like light rails). They have to make 2 slide types, 2 barrel lengths, and 2 frames, and every other part is essentially the same to manufacture 4 different models, the G19, G45, G47, and G49. |
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Posted: 4/25/2024 3:09:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GaryT1776: I do not see any advantage over the 17 This was Glock's way of selling more guns. Period. This one is about money. Agreed. |
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Posted: 4/25/2024 3:17:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By -Ascent-: Mine has been great. I have an Acro P2 on mine. |
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Posted: 4/25/2024 3:21:01 PM EDT
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Considering how cheap the guns are on the CBP contract, there's no reason to even worry about spare parts. Just get a whole new gun
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Posted: 4/25/2024 3:53:20 PM EDT
[Last Edit: -Ascent-]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GaryT1776: I apologize if my tone sounded argumentative. It was not intended that way. This is another Glock move that I simply don't see need for. The $12 argument could be made the other direction. What's the big deal about having two RSA in inventory? Regardless, Glock won't make changes that actually have unquestionable value (like adding a light rail to the dust cover of the 26) but will offer hybrid models of dubious "improvement" value. Glock has really become the HK of the handgun world. HK was always known for just designing something when a large agency or .gov entity requested it. The commercial consumers were largely ignored. Glock hasn't really changed anything since 1983. There is absolutely zero reason why Glock could not improve their ergonomics, offer a metal "high capacity" magazine for the 43/43X/48, add a light rail to the dust cover of the 26, etc. HK on the other hand, has become very commercial consumer focused. Instead we get a 19 slide on a 17 frame and then a 17 slide on a 19 frame. That is so cutting edge and innovative that I have no reason to even consider offerings by Sig, Canik, HK, Springfield, Walther, etc (all of which have superior ergonomics, capacity, innovation / improvement, and simple "features" that should be OEM on every handgun sold like light rails). Thats why I like Glocks. I know what is it, its reliable and dependable. Its the same ergonomics whether its a G17.1 or a G47. I can pick it up and run it just the same. I do have shield mags for my G43x mos rail and that would be nice but until Glock loses their ass on them they wont change. That doesn't fit their business model. I've owned just about everything out there from HK, Sig, CZ, Beretta, High/Low end 1911, all the other poly wonders, hi-powers, etc. In the end I always come back to Glock because its the same old dependable, reliable and basic gun. |
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Posted: 4/25/2024 4:03:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Blacktoothgrin: Agreed. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Blacktoothgrin: Originally Posted By GaryT1776: I do not see any advantage over the 17 This was Glock's way of selling more guns. Period. This one is about money. Agreed. Its what BP/Customs asked for. They wanted to sell guns to them. Might as well make some money off the civilian market with them too. Just like the G19x. |
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NV, USA
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Posted: 4/29/2024 7:59:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By -Ascent-: I've owned just about everything out there from HK, Sig, CZ, Beretta, High/Low end 1911, all the other poly wonders, hi-powers, etc. In the end I always come back to Glock because its the same old dependable, reliable and basic gun. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By -Ascent-: Originally Posted By GaryT1776: I apologize if my tone sounded argumentative. It was not intended that way. This is another Glock move that I simply don't see need for. The $12 argument could be made the other direction. What's the big deal about having two RSA in inventory? Regardless, Glock won't make changes that actually have unquestionable value (like adding a light rail to the dust cover of the 26) but will offer hybrid models of dubious "improvement" value. Glock has really become the HK of the handgun world. HK was always known for just designing something when a large agency or .gov entity requested it. The commercial consumers were largely ignored. Glock hasn't really changed anything since 1983. There is absolutely zero reason why Glock could not improve their ergonomics, offer a metal "high capacity" magazine for the 43/43X/48, add a light rail to the dust cover of the 26, etc. HK on the other hand, has become very commercial consumer focused. Instead we get a 19 slide on a 17 frame and then a 17 slide on a 19 frame. That is so cutting edge and innovative that I have no reason to even consider offerings by Sig, Canik, HK, Springfield, Walther, etc (all of which have superior ergonomics, capacity, innovation / improvement, and simple "features" that should be OEM on every handgun sold like light rails). I've owned just about everything out there from HK, Sig, CZ, Beretta, High/Low end 1911, all the other poly wonders, hi-powers, etc. In the end I always come back to Glock because its the same old dependable, reliable and basic gun. Yep. I collect lighters, and have some really cool ones. But I carry a Bic lighter. |
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Posted: 4/29/2024 8:05:32 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/30/2024 6:40:19 PM EDT
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I have one but embarrassingly haven’t shot it yet. I asked one of the CBP guys I see all the time what he thought about it. He said he missed the HK just because he’d been shooting it so long but said objectively the 47 was easier to get proficient with.
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Posted: 5/5/2024 4:45:33 PM EDT
[Last Edit: -Ascent-]
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Put a Glock performance trigger in the G47 today
 Attached File Attached FileI called it 4” but my Leo buddy asked what my 90% spread was. The target was 25m away.  Attached FileIt’s 7 rounds because that how many rounds I grabbed out of the ammo can. 
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USA
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Posted: 5/6/2024 5:12:07 AM EDT
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I may add the new fact prof trigger into my 47.
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Posted: 5/7/2024 9:43:43 AM EDT
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I bought one as my first red dot handgun. Need to take some classes with it but it works so far.
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Posted: 5/22/2024 12:38:36 PM EDT
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OP, my apologies if this will be a thread slide. Since there's a G47 thread I figured I'd ask here instead of starting a new topic.
I picked up a G47 earlier this year and it's been great, especially with the GPT. My question is will a barrel made for a Gen 5 G17 fit/function in a G47 since the dimensions are the same? |
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Posted: 5/22/2024 1:15:26 PM EDT
[Last Edit: burkeva]
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Not a boarder guy, but i was issued one and it is a great gun. Extremely reliable and crazy accurate. I didnt carry it concealed since i was also issued a G19, but i 100% shot the 47 better. EDIT
I also played around by putting the 47 slide on the 19 grip and vice versa. All configurations ran without a hitch. |
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Posted: 5/22/2024 1:35:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Hill_monkey: OP, my apologies if this will be a thread slide. Since there's a G47 thread I figured I'd ask here instead of starting a new topic. I picked up a G47 earlier this year and it's been great, especially with the GPT. My question is will a barrel made for a Gen 5 G17 fit/function in a G47 since the dimensions are the same? |
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Posted: 5/22/2024 10:06:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By D_Man: So long as it's a gen 5 G17 barrel, yes. The 17.5 and 47 use the same barrel. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By D_Man: Originally Posted By Hill_monkey: OP, my apologies if this will be a thread slide. Since there's a G47 thread I figured I'd ask here instead of starting a new topic. I picked up a G47 earlier this year and it's been great, especially with the GPT. My question is will a barrel made for a Gen 5 G17 fit/function in a G47 since the dimensions are the same? It will also take the Gen5 G34 and G17L barrel. |
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Posted: 5/22/2024 11:46:02 PM EDT
[Last Edit: MCM308]
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I'm not gonna quote posts. Back in the day, Hk was in a different league. They didn't care about us civvies, that USP was for certain parties. It spoke for itself and us civvies happen to benefit from it being available. The USP .40 . They were the Elite pistol. Hk.. what variant do you need? Here's Glock half price and dead nuts reliable... But you get what you get. I would never even consider a polymer frame pistol other than Hk or Glock. I just bought a 19x and I tell you something, Imma big guy with big hands and a lefty. The 17 frame size with no finger grooves and ambi controls feels like it becomes part of me. Can't wait to shoot it. I was never a fan of the finger grooves on previous models. I've had an Hk USP Expert 9 but regretfully sold it but I will have another USP in .40cal because that's what it was designed for..Hk and Glock are apple and oranges... Glocks happen to be cheap and reliable...
I operate heavy equipment and when I was 15 on a backhoe, the old timer told me when my hands touch those levers, the hydraulic fluid becomes the blood in my veins and you need to feel that pressure and that bucket is an extension of my hand. That's how I felt soon as I picked up the 19x . It was a wow moment. I had the the 45 and the 19x and I picked the 19x because I love the finish and don't have other mags that won't fit so that was a non issue. It was also a made in Austria gun... Not that it makes a difference... But I'm quirky like that...lol |
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Posted: 5/25/2024 6:23:11 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Hill_monkey]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DavidY: It will also take the Gen5 G34 and G17L barrel. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DavidY: Originally Posted By D_Man: Originally Posted By Hill_monkey: OP, my apologies if this will be a thread slide. Since there's a G47 thread I figured I'd ask here instead of starting a new topic. I picked up a G47 earlier this year and it's been great, especially with the GPT. My question is will a barrel made for a Gen 5 G17 fit/function in a G47 since the dimensions are the same? It will also take the Gen5 G34 and G17L barrel. Thanks fellas. Got this barrel installed and took it to the range today. While it does fit, it doesn't cycle. Could only get one shot and the next round would not load. Rubbed it down with a light coat of oil. Wonder if I need to upgrade the guide rod/spring? Maybe it didn't like the ammo I was using? Obligatory pic.  ETA: I'm a big dummy, it took 3 range trips to realize the pistol wasn't lubed very well . After a healthy application of grease it's working much better. I did have a few failure to feeds but maybe that's part of the break in period.I ran 100 rounds through it using 115's & 124's, 50 suppressed & 50 not. I think it likes the heavier bullet best. ETA 2: Cleaned the barrel and ran 100 rounds through it today, flawlessly. |
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Posted: 5/28/2024 5:42:21 AM EDT
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Posted: 5/28/2024 10:23:02 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By triburst1: Love mine. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/34777/IMG_1101_jpeg-3225632.JPG You have that set up exactly how I’d want mine set up. Rugged Obsidian? |
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Posted: 5/29/2024 7:01:26 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Spartan24: You have that set up exactly how I’d want mine set up. Rugged Obsidian? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Spartan24: Originally Posted By triburst1: Love mine. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/34777/IMG_1101_jpeg-3225632.JPG You have that set up exactly how I’d want mine set up. Rugged Obsidian? AAC TiRant 9M HD which is the best 9mm can on the market, IMO. |
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Posted: 5/29/2024 10:18:40 PM EDT
[Last Edit: spydercomonkey]
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Apparently the G47 is compatible with the Radian afterburner:
https://www.radianweapons.com/en/pistol/2464272/3218314 That could be a cool combo. 
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