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Posted: 2/8/2019 3:32:06 PM EST
[Last Edit: 2/14/2019 1:52:32 PM EST by NoloContendere]
Link Posted: 2/8/2019 3:34:18 PM EST
I had to look it up. It's positive?
Link Posted: 2/8/2019 3:34:29 PM EST
[Last Edit: 2/8/2019 3:34:39 PM EST by 2ndamendmentknights]
So they can reverse the original ruling?
Link Posted: 2/8/2019 3:34:39 PM EST
what does that mean
Link Posted: 2/8/2019 3:37:11 PM EST
All up in it.
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Link Posted: 2/8/2019 3:38:58 PM EST
Entirely predictable
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Originally Posted By captblue1:
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All those Uncle Mike's holsters sold in Hawaii recently will likely go unused.
Link Posted: 2/8/2019 3:42:36 PM EST
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Peeps here ben talking bot it.
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Originally Posted By NoloContendere:
no. that means the half-9th circuit gets to weigh in.
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Originally Posted By NoloContendere:
Originally Posted By MMcfpd:
I had to look it up. It's positive?
no. that means the half-9th circuit gets to weigh in.
Yeah, that is good as dead.

And par for the course for the 9th.
Link Posted: 2/8/2019 3:45:45 PM EST
In on one.

In for more Nolo Dillos.

In for Nolo drinking beers with Brett
Link Posted: 2/8/2019 3:46:37 PM EST
Damn, that sucks. You know we can't trust the 9th in any way shape or form. Sure as the world they will reverse the shit out of that.
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I’ll wager it’ll be the same outcome as Peruta.
Link Posted: 2/8/2019 3:56:35 PM EST
Read:

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/gun-advocates-need-to-tread-carefully-despite-young-v-hawaii-victory

This may well impact Texas as we struggle for 2A Rights before a weak legislature. The RINOs and others are a problem here.
Link Posted: 2/8/2019 4:44:29 PM EST
So the 9th will shoot it down and then you'll have conflict due to the ruling in Illinois that made them get Shall Issue.
Link Posted: 2/8/2019 4:46:53 PM EST
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Originally Posted By captblue1:
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It means they are going to give the gun banners a do over. Our "win" just vanished.
Link Posted: 2/8/2019 4:56:09 PM EST
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Originally Posted By WhiskersTheCat: In on one.

In for more Nolo Dillos.

In for Nolo drinking beers with Brett
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It will be a good day when that happens. I pray it does.
Link Posted: 2/8/2019 4:57:30 PM EST
By the time this gets to SCOTUS Trump should have made another appointment.
Link Posted: 2/8/2019 4:58:53 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Miami_JBT:
So the 9th will shoot it down and then you'll have conflict due to the ruling in Illinois that made them get Shall Issue.
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There is also the supremes hearing the NY thing.
Link Posted: 2/8/2019 5:05:08 PM EST
If En Banc goes against you guys then it's off to the Supreme Court, assuming they take it.
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Will lose in SC as Roberts has come out as liberal as RBG
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Originally Posted By Hoop223556:
If En Banc goes against you guys then it's off to the Supreme Court, assuming they take it.
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They might, as it would be to address a split between circuits.
Link Posted: 2/8/2019 5:10:57 PM EST
Didn’t see that coming.
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Originally Posted By hughewil:
Will lose in SC as Roberts has come out as liberal as RBG
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Show me the firearms case that Roberts has gone against us.
Link Posted: 2/8/2019 5:16:20 PM EST
[Last Edit: 2/8/2019 5:16:42 PM EST by PnQ]
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Originally Posted By Miami_JBT:
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Supreme court time
Link Posted: 2/8/2019 5:17:55 PM EST
Trump just nominated 3 new conservative justices to the 9th. Senate is confirming judges ASAP.

Stand by for reboot.
Link Posted: 2/8/2019 5:18:05 PM EST
[Last Edit: 2/8/2019 5:19:21 PM EST by rabidus]
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Originally Posted By 3rdpig:
Show me the firearms case that Roberts has gone against us.
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Originally Posted By hughewil:
Will lose in SC as Roberts has come out as liberal as RBG
Show me the firearms case that Roberts has gone against us.
Roberts is against total bans, (not scary rifles but FUDD guns) probably a bolt action, shotgun, handgun’s are okay type of guy.

I can bet he’d flip on standard capacity mags and ar15’s to the liberals.

That’s why SCOTUS punts these cases, they don’t have the perfect case that even Roberts would agree with.

....until 1 more liberal retires/dies, expect no more gun case punts.

After that? Within a year, SCOTUS will take a case and be done with it.
Link Posted: 2/8/2019 5:19:13 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Hoop223556:
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considering they take one 2A firearms case every 10-years, and they are just now deciding if its okay to take an unloaded handgun in a locked case outside your home. its going to be awhile
Link Posted: 2/8/2019 5:20:09 PM EST
It means they've had enough time to dream up whatever tortured bullshit legal mumbo jumbo they'll use to overturn the 3 judge ruling.
Link Posted: 2/8/2019 5:20:30 PM EST
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Originally Posted By captblue1:
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Banco

Link Posted: 2/8/2019 5:20:34 PM EST
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Originally Posted By rabidus:

Roberts is against total bans, (not scary rifles but FUDD guns) probably a bolt action, shotgun, handgun's are okay type of guy.

I can bet he'd flip on standard capacity mags and ar15's to the liberals.

That's why SCOTUS punts these cases, they don't have the perfect case that even Roberts would agree with.

....until 1 more liberal retires/dies, expect no more gun case punts.

After that? Within a year, SCOTUS will take a case and be done with it.
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I'm sure you don't realize it, but the above are your opinions.
Link Posted: 2/8/2019 5:28:43 PM EST
I'm shocked!
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Originally Posted By 3rdpig:
I'm sure you don't realize it, but the above are your opinions.
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It is an opinion but in my opinion is likely the correct opinion at least as far as Robert goes.

Not sure I would guarantee they'll take the case when/if we have another pick but I do think pretty likely chance Roberts would screw us.
Link Posted: 2/8/2019 5:32:51 PM EST
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Originally Posted By drfroglegs:
Damn, that sucks. You know we can't trust the 9th in any way shape or form. Sure as the world they will reverse the shit out of that.
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Splits in Circuit court rulings go up to the USSC.....?
Link Posted: 2/8/2019 5:36:37 PM EST
[Last Edit: 2/8/2019 5:38:16 PM EST by nightstalker]
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Originally Posted By hughewil:
Will lose in SC as Roberts has come out as liberal as RBG
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From ThinkProgress.com

On Thursday, the Supreme Court stayed a lower court decision that openly defied its most recent case protecting the right to an abortion. Thursday’s order was unexpected, given the ideological makeup of the Supreme Court, and it is likely to be very temporary.

The decision was 5-4, with Chief Justice John Roberts crossing over to vote with the court’s liberal bloc. The stay will last only until the court has an opportunity to consider a request to give the case a full hearing — a request it will most likely grant. That means that the Supreme Court could overrule or drastically undercut the right to an abortion as soon as 2020.
Link Posted: 2/8/2019 5:59:47 PM EST
This could be interesting with the new appointments, if they are confirmed that is.

Link Posted: 2/8/2019 6:06:06 PM EST
Wasn’t Peruta also decided favorably, with some of the same judges as were on the Young panel, only to get killed en banc?
Link Posted: 2/8/2019 6:06:29 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Plattekill:
Trump just nominated 3 new conservative justices to the 9th. Senate is confirming judges ASAP.

Stand by for reboot.
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Oh yeah, the piece of shit senators from Cali were bitching about them. Trump wasn’t doing the polite thing by getting their permission/consent before making a move...

...FDF & FKH
Link Posted: 2/8/2019 6:06:48 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Miami_JBT:
So the 9th will shoot it down and then you'll have conflict due to the ruling in Illinois that made them get Shall Issue.
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That conflict already exists.
Link Posted: 2/8/2019 7:49:03 PM EST
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Originally Posted By NoloContendere:
Already set oral argument week of March 25th. In San Fran. No specific date/time yet. Ordered a bunch of copies of briefs due in 7 days. I sent everything just now to be printed and bound.
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I'm kinda surprised it's that quick.
Link Posted: 2/8/2019 8:00:19 PM EST
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Originally Posted By WhiskersTheCat:

I'm kinda surprised it's that quick.
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I wonder if that is to beat the Trump nominees from being seated and being available to sit on the en banc.
Link Posted: 2/8/2019 9:03:21 PM EST
@HiBigBoar
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Originally Posted By nightstalker:
Splits in Circuit court rulings go up to the USSC.....?
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Originally Posted By drfroglegs:
Damn, that sucks. You know we can't trust the 9th in any way shape or form. Sure as the world they will reverse the shit out of that.
Splits in Circuit court rulings go up to the USSC.....?
All appeals from the Circuit Courts go up to SCOTUS. A split improves the odds that it will be heard but it isn't a guarantee.
Link Posted: 2/8/2019 9:55:35 PM EST
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Originally Posted By 3rdpig:
Show me the firearms case that Roberts has gone against us.
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Roberts is a tainted turncoat asshole. Do not rely on him in a 5/4 court, especially where RBG's assistants are writing her decisions for her.
Link Posted: 2/8/2019 11:57:55 PM EST
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