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Posted: 9/24/2022 6:11:18 PM EDT
[Last Edit: ARHank]
 Attached FileI'm hesitant to start a thread about her because I don't know how fast or how far I'll go with it. Hopefully this thread will keep me motivated. Rosey is an '87 Buick Turbo T with a 3.8 liter turbo charged V6. She's an Arizona car with just under 50k original miles. I can't tell you how many were a 1/4 at a time. My brother in law moved out of state and abandoned her at my house. He's had her for maybe 15-20 years. We used to race her until he shacked up with a chick that didn't like going to the track. He putted Rosey around the neighborhood for a while after that, until she couldn't pass emissions. He swapped factory injectors back in and tried messing with this and that but couldn't get it through. So,. she got parked and has been sitting ever since. I'd guess it hasn't moved in ten years. BIL sort of moved in a hurry and had many toys. He left the Buick with me probably hoping that I'd make him an offer. I still don't know what to do with it but if it's going to sit at my house, it's gotta move under it's own power. This thread will me be getting her going. First thing is dropping the tank.  Attached FileETA: K5 on page three. |
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Posted: 9/24/2022 6:20:50 PM EDT
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In before all the guys who dream of finding something like that to fix up.
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Posted: 9/24/2022 6:21:05 PM EDT
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Tag. Do it!
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Posted: 9/24/2022 6:37:07 PM EDT
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CA, USA
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Posted: 9/24/2022 6:41:46 PM EDT
[Last Edit: uglygun]
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Wht kind of smog bullshit has Az got?
Any sort of moving exemption? In the 90s when I was about to get my license, Ca exempted anything 20 years or older. Then 1994 I get my license and they stopped the moving 20 year stuff. Fuckin bullshit. If I leave Ca I will be going some place with no smog laws. EPA be damned. 95 Cobra will likely get a carbed 351 based engine. Had a 90% built 331 planned to go in the 95 when I decided not to further mess with a running car that still passed Ca smog. Put the 331 into a 66 project that I got in 2017 and let sit til 2020(with a full tank of gas that entire time). |
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Posted: 9/24/2022 7:08:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By uglygun: Wht kind of smog bullshit has Az got? Any sort of moving exemption? In the 90s when I was about to get my license, Ca exempted anything 20 years or older. Then 1994 I get my license and they stopped the moving 20 year stuff. Fuckin bullshit. If I leave Ca I will be going some place with no smog laws. EPA be damned. 95 Cobra will likely get a carbed 351 based engine. Had a 90% built 331 planned to go in the 95 when I decided not to further mess with a running car that still passed Ca smog. Put the 331 into a 66 project that I got in 2017 and let sit til 2020(with a full tank of gas that entire time). Where i live in Texas, a state inspection consists of horn works, lights work, brakes work, check book works. |
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Posted: 9/24/2022 7:15:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By uglygun: Wht kind of smog bullshit has Az got? Any sort of moving exemption? In the 90s when I was about to get my license, Ca exempted anything 20 years or older. Then 1994 I get my license and they stopped the moving 20 year stuff. Fuckin bullshit. If I leave Ca I will be going some place with no smog laws. EPA be damned. 95 Cobra will likely get a carbed 351 based engine. Had a 90% built 331 planned to go in the 95 when I decided not to further mess with a running car that still passed Ca smog. Put the 331 into a 66 project that I got in 2017 and let sit til 2020(with a full tank of gas that entire time). The biggest fear was always worrying about the emissions nimrod keeping it on the rollers. "Now this car's really fast. It just takes a bit before it builds boost. So take it easy". Whizzzzzz! You ever seen a car spin the tires on a dyno at the emissions station? |
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Posted: 9/24/2022 7:29:00 PM EDT
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Would have ordered the pumps (yeah pumps) before I pulled the tank but I didn't know what to order. I tested the sender and it's bad. So I am going to slam in an OEM for now. It's bad
 Attached FilePart of the reason for starting the thread was to share a bit of history of how mother fuckers went fast in the 90s and early 2000s. This was a bad bitch in her day. She ran low 10s consistently. It has dual pump setup. One wired up like factory with a second controlled by a Hobbs switch. When the boost came up, the second pump kicked on. There is better shit available now. So rather than figure it out, we'll just put her back to stock and get her running.  Attached FileI vacuumed out the tank but it's going to need more love. Do rad shops still clean these or does everyone just replace them with Chinese garbage? |
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Posted: 9/24/2022 7:56:40 PM EDT
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Fun project!
I'm sure since it's a G-body there's tons of stuff available, but when you start to get into it, go with stainless and teflon in the fuel system. Impervious to everything. There's E85 rated pumps that'll support a ton of horsepower even as singles now and should fit (or fit with minor changes) in the factory pump setup. |
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Posted: 9/24/2022 8:14:21 PM EDT
[Last Edit: ARHank]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Agilt: Fun project! I'm sure since it's a G-body there's tons of stuff available, but when you start to get into it, go with stainless and teflon in the fuel system. Impervious to everything. There's E85 rated pumps that'll support a ton of horsepower even as singles now and should fit (or fit with minor changes) in the factory pump setup. Looked at: https://fullthrottlespeed.com/products/racetronix-gen2-stainless-fuel-pump-sender-w-single-450lph-pump-for-turbo-buick-gn-t-type But ordered a OEM Delphi. ETA: Slicks, fuel, tools and lawn chairs fit in the trunk. 
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CA, USA
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Posted: 9/24/2022 9:11:27 PM EDT
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Had a GNX once and briefly. Prior owner had gone to town on it beefing it up. It would crease the roofline if you launched it hard. Wiggly body, fast as shit. Intensely difficult to keep it running on 40lbs of boost.
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Posted: 9/24/2022 9:46:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ballisticxlr: Had a GNX once and briefly. Prior owner had gone to town on it beefing it up. It would crease the roofline if you launched it hard. Wiggly body, fast as shit. Intensely difficult to keep it running on 40lbs of boost. I'll post more pics of the anti-wiggly modifications. She launched pretty straight but would lift one wheel before the other. 
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Posted: 9/25/2022 10:35:55 AM EDT
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I think more people now know what a Grand National is then they did 20 years ago. Nobody really knew about the Turbo Regals. You could basically print money with this back in the day. Dudes in Z06s we're the best. You just had to tree them and let them think they were gaining on you. Then you could go double or nothing.
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TN, USA
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Posted: 9/25/2022 1:36:12 PM EDT
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Oh man, please keep this going. You are working on my dream car.
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Posted: 9/25/2022 2:21:48 PM EDT
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My dream Buick was always a white one with the color match bumper option. Kind of the anti-grand national.
 Attached File Attached FileThe older I get the more I like the chrome but I still like white. I found one like this that we just couldn't come together on price. Of course nowadays, the price would be considered a steal.  Attached FileI almost threw out an @Spaceboy when I started this thread. You showed me the light with the "new school" obd1 tech, some time back. Nothing like reading live data from your '87 K5 off your cell phone.  |
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Posted: 9/25/2022 5:12:32 PM EDT
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Mmmmmmm G body
 Those are the only old cars I still lust after. |
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ID, USA
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Posted: 9/25/2022 5:18:45 PM EDT
[#16]
Hell yeah, sweet car. Those and the GN's were about the only good car to come out of the 80's.
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Posted: 9/25/2022 9:11:18 PM EDT
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I love Grandma cars that haul ass.
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TN, USA
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Posted: 9/25/2022 9:39:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By NIevo: Hell yeah, sweet car. Those and the GN's were about the only good car to come out of the 80's. |
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ID, USA
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Posted: 9/25/2022 10:02:08 PM EDT
[Last Edit: NIevo]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Spaceboy: Them's fighting words Lol....name a handful of others that were worth a damn. |
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Posted: 9/25/2022 11:15:33 PM EDT
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BIL is the third owner. His mechanic, Nick who specialized in GNs, put him in touch with this guy who was selling it. Rosey was his name for the car as it's color is Rosewood. He said that he bought it from an old man, the original owner in the early 90s and started building it up to race.
Trigger warning: Click To View Spoiler These didn't sell well. Buick's customer base came in for a luxury American car that was less flashy than a Cadillac. Most couldn't understand why the flagship model didn't come with the V8. It was ahead of it's time. |
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Posted: 9/26/2022 1:58:16 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Spaceboy: Them's fighting words 1973 to 1993 were a black hole of just awful cars, with several exceptions. 1989 t/a turbo The turbo buicks The typhoon/syclone (A few Japanese cars worth mentioning) That's about it. |
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Posted: 9/26/2022 8:33:47 AM EDT
[#22]
Love the car. Always wanted one, or a GN, or a typhoon/syclone.
Just be careful about dumping too much money into a car you don't own. |
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Posted: 9/26/2022 8:53:50 AM EDT
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A coworker who I've worked with for 15 years often brings up this "super fast Regal he bought new in the late 80's".
Fucking guy has no idea what he owned and I'll never tell him
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Posted: 9/26/2022 10:36:27 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By takdriver: 1973 to 1993 were a black hole of just awful cars, with several exceptions. 1989 t/a turbo The turbo buicks The typhoon/syclone (A few Japanese cars worth mentioning) That's about it. The Turbo Buicks are the first cars GM released that were faster than the Corvette in the same model year. |
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Posted: 9/26/2022 11:42:18 AM EDT
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That car would be worth it’s weight in gold here.
Rust ate everything. 
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Posted: 9/26/2022 11:47:46 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fttam: That car would be worth it’s weight in gold here. Rust ate everything. I told OP through a different convo about a supposed GNX here. It was definitely a GN, dunno enough to identify the fake GNX's, anywho... Old man car, bought new by owner, garage kept. Looks like the condition of most cars you see 90 year olds driving around; as in you can tell they took care of it, they garaged it, etc., but it's still just a car to them. Point is, they are out there, even in the north. |
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Posted: 9/26/2022 1:25:08 PM EDT
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Ordering a new tank. This is probably the only state where they'll rust on the inside faster than the outside.
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TN, USA
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Posted: 9/26/2022 1:32:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ARHank: Turbo TAs were cheap for a while. They were the first car to pace Indy with no performance modifications. The Turbo Buicks are the first cars GM released that were faster than the Corvette in the same model year. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ARHank: Originally Posted By takdriver: 1973 to 1993 were a black hole of just awful cars, with several exceptions. 1989 t/a turbo The turbo buicks The typhoon/syclone (A few Japanese cars worth mentioning) That's about it. The Turbo Buicks are the first cars GM released that were faster than the Corvette in the same model year. They finally ditched the size and weight of the 70s and the styling was way better, they just had no performance. I can't wait to see how your T comes along. |
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Posted: 9/26/2022 2:51:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Spaceboy: 80s junk was magic. C10s, K5s, third gen f bodies, fox bodies, g bodies, b bodies, and don't get me started on the station wagons! They finally ditched the size and weight of the 70s and the styling was way better, they just had no performance. I can't wait to see how your T comes along. Smashed Y's were good for stealing motors out of for R/V & C/K applications. |
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TN, USA
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Posted: 9/26/2022 3:12:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ARHank: You still have your F that was in your avatar? Smashed Y's were good for stealing motors out of for R/V & C/K applications. |
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Posted: 9/26/2022 3:21:40 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Plasticseng]
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Posted: 9/30/2022 10:16:37 PM EDT
[#32]
Waiting on the new tank bump.
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Posted: 9/30/2022 10:40:21 PM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ARHank: My dream Buick was always a white one with the color match bumper option. Kind of the anti-grand national. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/155324/87whitettype1_jpg-2538959.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/155324/001-1987-turbo-buick_jpg-2538960.JPG The older I get the more I like the chrome but I still like white. I found one like this that we just couldn't come together on price. Of course nowadays, the price would be considered a steal. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/155324/1987-buick-regal-t-type_jpg-2538963.JPG I almost threw out an @Spaceboy when I started this thread. You showed me the light with the "new school" obd1 tech, some time back. Nothing like reading live data from your '87 K5 off your cell phone. That second car with the GNX flares and C4 turbines is almost perfect. I’m an Olds guy but add GNX flares and this is my dream G-Body. 
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Posted: 10/2/2022 12:44:29 AM EDT
[Last Edit: KA3B]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Into_the_Void: A coworker who I've worked with for 15 years often brings up this "super fast Regal he bought new in the late 80's". Fucking guy has no idea what he owned and I'll never tell him
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Posted: 10/2/2022 12:52:07 PM EDT
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NM, USA
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Posted: 10/2/2022 3:20:10 PM EDT
[#36]
That is a badass Buick!!! I would get it going an leave it as is, i.e. sleeper mode. But I would be very tempted to make a GN clone though.
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Posted: 10/2/2022 3:46:37 PM EDT
[#37]
With stock pump, when you get it running don’t lean on it. Hate to see it lean pop a cylinder or 6.
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Posted: 10/2/2022 9:21:25 PM EDT
[#38]
Originally Posted By 1969GTX: That is a badass Buick!!! I would get it going an leave it as is, i.e. sleeper mode. But I would be very tempted to make a GN clone though. Originally Posted By zoe17: With stock pump, when you get it running don't lean on it. Hate to see it lean pop a cylinder or 6. |
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Posted: 10/4/2022 12:34:29 AM EDT
[#39]
My old boss has a 86 hot air car he just brought home from his sister in laws. It had a rebuilt motor 15 years ago and never got driven after the rebuild. He knows how
Much I love his warmed over 87 GN so of course he’s offering it to me but I think it’s just so he doesn’t have to deal with figuring out what all needs replacing on it |
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Posted: 10/4/2022 7:34:35 PM EDT
[#40]
Giving me flashbacks!
My High school car was a '78 Turbo Regal. I was a minor gear head but my dad had a major gearhead buddy who was a Buick junkie. By the time I got it it needed some love so the buddy offered to rebuild it. It was really something else even with the stock 2.73 gears...ended up putting some 3.42s in it. Good friend in HS had an '87 GN. From about 15mph up to about 65mph I could hang with him but before or after nope. Sure do miss that old ride. |
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UT, USA
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Posted: 10/8/2022 11:44:53 AM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By NIevo: Hell yeah, sweet car. Those and the GN's were about the only good car to come out of the 80's. You forgot the Monte Carlo Aero coupes. No power from factory though. Had to swap in a TPI motor for that. 
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Posted: 10/8/2022 3:43:24 PM EDT
[#42]
Sorry for the delay. The tank hasn't shipped yet.
 I'm calling next week.Side story: The fuel pump went out in my Suburban. [Man, I feel like I replaced that not too long ago]  Attached FileMother fucker. It didn't make it a year! I've cursed GM and their decline in "OEM" standards all week. Well, the hose burst.  Attached FileIt looks like garbage chinesium plastic with no markings. So I need good hose. I wanted to replace the orings to the sender when I did it last year but couldn't find any in the garage on a Sunday. So, off to the parts store. I pick up seven fuel pressure and three return line orings from the dealership and one foot of 5/16, J30R10 fuel line from NAPA.  Attached FileOuch |
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Posted: 10/8/2022 4:35:12 PM EDT
[#43]
tag and I set your thread so it won't archive.
guy in town had a GN...he had it for quite a while then sold it. another guy that works at one of the auto parts places found one that was very neglected. he did a "frame off" restoration and it looked like he drove it off the show room floor. told me he sold it to a guy that is collecting 1 from every year of production. |
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Posted: 10/8/2022 7:24:13 PM EDT
[#44]
Thanks Striker.
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Posted: 10/9/2022 11:21:15 AM EDT
[#45]
I never could find a decent T or GN so I had to settle for an '86 442
Had a lot of fun with that car |
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Posted: 10/13/2022 8:35:58 PM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By colt_thompson: I never could find a decent T or GN so I had to settle for an '86 442 Had a lot of fun with that car Soon ...  Attached File |
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Posted: 10/13/2022 9:57:52 PM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ARHank: My stepdad has a nice '78 442 pace car edition. It's pretty sweet. Soon ... https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/155324/Screenshot_20221013-165957_png-2562052.JPG |
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Posted: 10/13/2022 11:52:01 PM EDT
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Oops, I lied. It looks like his is a '74. It's been a while since I have seen it. He's got a few choice old cars and this one's in the back of the "she'd".
This isn't his but it looks just like it. It's a hard top with the two tone vinyl top. It was supposed to look like a convertible with a roll bar or something.  Attached File Attached Filehttps://gmauthority.com/blog/2020/01/1974-oldsmobile-442-indy-pace-car-for-sale/ He found it in a field with only 60k on the clock. His dad went with him to pick it up. His dad, an old rancher, thought he was fucking crazy for buying it. A total waste of $800. He said it was the ugliest car he'd ever seen. Why did someone put all those ugly stickers on it. They got done loading it on the trailer and the old man went back to get the railroad ties it was sitting on. He told my stepdad he wanted to get his money's worth. Stepdad had it back on the road right away. We fixed it up pretty nice. He's a big believer in it's only got factory paint once so the exterior isn't perfect but looks pretty good for it's age. The interior looks brand new. The motor and transmission have been gone through. Will spin doughnuts. |
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Posted: 10/14/2022 12:24:30 AM EDT
[Last Edit: -OdieGreen-]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ARHank: Oops, I lied. It looks like his is a '74. It's been a while since I have seen it. He's got a few choice old cars and this one's in the back of the "she'd". This isn't his but it looks just like it. It's a hard top with the two tone vinyl top. It was supposed to look like a convertible with a roll bar or something. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/155324/1974-Oldsmobile-442-Indy-Pace-Car-White--2562286.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/155324/1974-Oldsmobile-442-Indy-Pace-Car-White--2562288.JPG https://gmauthority.com/blog/2020/01/1974-oldsmobile-442-indy-pace-car-for-sale/ He found it in a field with only 60k on the clock. His dad went with him to pick it up. His dad, an old rancher, thought he was fucking crazy for buying it. A total waste of $800. He said it was the ugliest car he'd ever seen. Why did someone put all those ugly stickers on it. They got done loading it on the trailer and the old man went back to get the railroad ties it was sitting on. He told my stepdad he wanted to get his money's worth. Stepdad had it back on the road right away. We fixed it up pretty nice. He's a big believer in it's only got factory paint once so the exterior isn't perfect but looks pretty good for it's age. The interior looks brand new. The motor and transmission have been gone through. Will spin doughnuts. That would be a 1974 Hurst Olds. Some upgrades over the 442 and worth considerably more. Interesting fact most don’t know. The 84’ Hurst Olds and 85-87 442 along with the 84-87 Buick turbo cars were the only G-Bodies to get the 8.5” rear end. The 8.5” rear exists because of a 1982 developed 5 speed Olds concept that got axed last minute in 1984. The only reason Olds still got the 8.5” was because the Cutlass was supposed to be the blacked out specialty car, not the GN. The FE3X Cutlass concept looked like a GNX and was the first ready for production car GM made to hold over 1G on the skid pad. GM decided they wanted a car to go fast in a straight line instead of a road course so they amped up the 3.8 with an inter cooler and gave Buick the black out treatment instead. They even gave Buick the “X” too.  |
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Posted: 10/14/2022 1:00:35 AM EDT
[Last Edit: icemann0]
[#50]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ARHank: BIL is the third owner. His mechanic, Nick who specialized in GNs, put him in touch with this guy who was selling it. Rosey was his name for the car as it's color is Rosewood. He said that he bought it from an old man, the original owner in the early 90s and started building it up to race. Trigger warning: Click To View Spoiler These didn't sell well. Buick's customer base came in for a luxury American car that was less flashy than a Cadillac. Most couldn't understand why the flagship model didn't come with the V8. It was ahead of it's time. I sold Buicks in New Orleans and all anybody wanted to see was a loaded "Duece and a Quarter" (Electra 225) or a "Ravara" (Rivera) so I had several Regal Turbo's for my daily demo. Hell of a lot of fun. I always wanted a blacked out FBI version with the go fast chip |
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