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Posted: 5/12/2024 7:48:55 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Imagine if people were this passionate, involved and determined to fix real problems. Last I checked armed trespassers are a real problem. |
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Posted: 5/12/2024 8:01:27 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: While I can understand how the charges, if proven, would and should prevent awarding credit for taking the buck going to the man, I don't believe such crimes, if proven, somehow make the buck smaller, lighter, or have a less impressive set of antlers. The buck committed no crimes and his record of being a record should remain if all the measurements were certified by honest snd qualified third parties and/or officials. Possibly, the buck could of became an even bigger record if he were not taken in an allegedly illegal manner. I would imagine the uncredited record size would need an asterisk next to his record so as not to affect the standing of records of hunters who complied with all hunting regulations at the time. However, I do think the records of hunters and animals may need a decoupling and should be listed separately. I doubt investigations were as thorough in the past and were most likely limited to simple things like actual possession of a license and method of kill. Things like time of kill during legal hours and GPS tracking data would have been difficult to prove or nonexistent in the past. The buck doesn't have feelings, and is therefore not concerned with where it is on the list. Keeping "records" in this manner is a contributing factor of the buck's poaching. |
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Posted: 5/12/2024 8:07:46 AM EDT
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The guy that killed this buck has been interviewed a couple of times and talked about the case. He went over all the internet rumors. I found him believable. If what he said about what the OH DNR did is true then fuck the OH DNR. He calims to have called a OH conservation officer the day after he killed the buck when all the internet bullshit started and and wanted him to come to his sisters property to show him the gut pile and where he killed the buck. Officer declined.
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Posted: 5/12/2024 8:15:25 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The guy that killed this buck has been interviewed a couple of times and talked about the case. He went over all the internet rumors. I found him believable. If what he said about what the OH DNR did is true then fuck the OH DNR. He calims to have called a OH conservation officer the day after he killed the buck when all the internet bullshit started and and wanted him to come to his sisters property to show him the gut pile and where he killed the buck. Officer declined. I'm willing to wait until the documents hit public access before I'll believe what he has said. |
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Posted: 5/12/2024 8:15:45 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Would never trust someone with that beard. Yet another uncannily accurate first post. |
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Posted: 5/12/2024 8:39:38 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The guy that killed this buck has been interviewed a couple of times and talked about the case. He went over all the internet rumors. I found him believable. If what he said about what the OH DNR did is true then fuck the OH DNR. He calims to have called a OH conservation officer the day after he killed the buck when all the internet bullshit started and and wanted him to come to his sisters property to show him the gut pile and where he killed the buck. Officer declined. I mean a gut pile could be plunked down anywhere. Hell even a believable blood trail could be made up if you were so inclined. Thing is though always hard to believe DNR s in these situations too. Nothing more do they love than getting their name in the headlines for monster deer. I had heard two versions of what this guy supposedly did. One, deer caught on trail cam miles away and he got dimed. Two, he hunted it on his sisters property whom he had only gotten verbal permission and that the property was actually owned by a grandmother who hadn’t given him permission. |
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Posted: 5/12/2024 8:44:40 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It's a single fucking deer. If you are reading this and want to tax, arrest or shoot someone over a shooting a wild animal that isn't rare or on the verge of extinction, you need to look in the mirror and seek God. Tyrants everywhere. Username change requested. New name: RandyBroshanklemonitor |
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Posted: 5/12/2024 8:48:53 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Two, he hunted it on his sisters property whom he had only gotten verbal permission and that the property was actually owned by a grandmother who hadn’t given him permission. This is goofy. Family member says you can hunt on their land but it has to be in writing? My aunt/cousins own a bunch of adjacent land. One cousin will give permission to anyone who calls and asks, but one section is HEAVY with deer and always has a lot of hunters on it, mostly with permission. Last time I was there I was sitting on a fence line glassing for deer and guy pulls up in his pickup, crosses the fence and walks out to me. Asks me my name. I have it to him and said, “you know that fence you just crossed to come over here? I built it. Can I help you with anything else?” I’ve taken a lot of sausage out of that field but haven’t for years now. Can’t hunt it without running into some other asshole who thinks it’s his. |
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Posted: 5/12/2024 8:53:52 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: In before the guys complaining about “Muh King’s deer!” |
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Posted: 5/12/2024 8:54:53 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Or, someone has spent time, effort, and money managing a property to hunt. Buying or leasing a property; putting in the time and money to put in stands, food plots, and feeders; paying taxes on the land; the list goes forever, just to have some trespassing shitstain come in and kill animals you've put the work in to develop. That tends to piss folks off. Jealousy has nothing to do with it. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Also, never underestimate the jealousy of some people who aren't happy at what other people kill. Then there's those who think that because they've never killed a buck that big, the hunter must have done it illegally. I will say fuck poachers. We've had problems with them on the property I hunt. |
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Posted: 5/12/2024 8:56:27 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Looking up the case, it had a summary judgment entered in the lawsuit on May 3rd. Zero updates on his blog... What was the outcome of the lawsuit? Cash settlement with non-disclosure agreement? It's standard in civil suits, but if I were suing the government, I'd be highly resistant to signing an NDA. My first amendment rights are not to be given away for free. They might be for sale at a high price, but the idea of taking hush money from the taxpayers in order to keep the taxpayers in the dark is rather sketchy. |
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Posted: 5/12/2024 8:56:59 AM EDT
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He looks like he was busy stealing catalytic converters when he ran across the deer.
Screw cheaters, we have a Rinky dink fishing derby at my cottage and it's amazing that kids in diapers can pull out a trophy fish! |
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Posted: 5/12/2024 8:58:09 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Looking up the case, it had a summary judgment entered in the lawsuit on May 3rd. Zero updates on his blog... What was the outcome of the lawsuit? iirc he got the heads back & they sued the fish cops and won. damn liars. |
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Posted: 5/12/2024 9:03:35 AM EDT
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Outdoor Life story added.
https://www.outdoorlife.com/hunting/cj-alexander-buck-poaching-investigation/ The charges facing Alexander, 28, of Wilmington, are as follows: Five counts each of illegally hunting deer without written permission, and taking possession of a deer in violation of a division rule. Three counts of theft by deception. Two counts each of hunting without a license, hunting without a valid deer permit, and tampering with evidence. Once count each of jacklighting, theft, falsification, and sale of wildlife parts. |
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Posted: 5/12/2024 9:05:00 AM EDT
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23 charges?
Seems quite excessive unless they found his DNA inside the deer or something. |
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Posted: 5/12/2024 9:10:41 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This is goofy. Family member says you can hunt on their land but it has to be in writing? In some states, officially, yes. DNR usually doesn’t give a shit unless there’s an issue, such as a landowner in question calling the DNR and saying “that’s my land, here’s the deed, and that asshole hasn’t had permission in years”. |
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Posted: 5/12/2024 9:10:51 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: 23 charges? Seems quite excessive unless they found his DNA inside the deer. 
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Posted: 5/12/2024 9:15:06 AM EDT
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So he didn't shoot it at place A but really at place B. I get its trespassing but FFS an investigation based off of phone pics and metadata. Fish cops and their proud wall of shame.
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Posted: 5/12/2024 9:18:48 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Maybe he's a poacher, or maybe Ohio is taking a page from the West Virginia playbook. https://thecivilrightslawyer.com/2022/11/24/officers-lose-their-trophies-they-chose-poorly/ I have no idea of the guilt or innocence of the guy called into question, but I could absolutely see ODNR doing something like this. The fish cops here are the worst of the worst and will bend rules to try to hem up anyone they possibly can. |
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Posted: 5/12/2024 9:54:18 AM EDT
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THis is the location of the property the DNR says he really killed the buck on.
39.436374 , -83.857519 A church and few businesses nearby. Maybe they got him on camera dragging the deer out? Link to indictment https://www.ohioattorneygeneral.gov/Files/Briefing-Room/News-Releases/CHRISTOPHER-ALEXANDER-INDICTMENT.aspx |
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Posted: 5/12/2024 10:02:11 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So what made them question the kill from the start? Is there a fenced in pay to hunt place down the road with big bucks he took it from or??? Antler growth patterns are almost like fingerprints. They start the same each year. |
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Posted: 5/12/2024 10:23:30 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The buck doesn't have feelings, and is therefore not concerned with where it is on the list. Keeping "records" in this manner is a contributing factor of the buck's poaching. As far as notoriety for the alleged poaching, that's why there would be no record for the kill, only for the animal. |
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Posted: 5/12/2024 10:26:34 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: THis is the location of the property the DNR says he really killed the buck on. 39.436374 , -83.857519 A church and few businesses nearby. Maybe they got him on camera dragging the deer out? Link to indictment https://www.ohioattorneygeneral.gov/Files/Briefing-Room/News-Releases/CHRISTOPHER-ALEXANDER-INDICTMENT.aspx So I skimmed the indictment. Seems they are getting him for felony theft for endorsements/stories he sold to magazines and products. He also is getting indicted for jacklighting on that property (the one he killed the record on.) I’m not sure if it’s for jacklighting the record buck or not. We’ll see what the jury says, but he certainly sounds like a POS if they have enough evidence for 23 indictments. |
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Posted: 5/12/2024 11:04:49 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: 23 charges? Seems quite excessive unless they found his DNA inside the deer. /media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/th-463.jpg  |
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Posted: 5/12/2024 11:10:52 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So I skimmed the indictment. Seems they are getting him for felony theft for endorsements/stories he sold to magazines and products. He also is getting indicted for jacklighting on that property (the one he killed the record on.) I'm not sure if it's for jacklighting the record buck or not. We'll see what the jury says, but he certainly sounds like a POS if they have enough evidence for 23 indictments. |
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Posted: 5/12/2024 11:21:23 AM EDT
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And yet the usual crew was defending the guy to the hilt.
These guys are addicts, it’s just that their drug is different. |
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Posted: 5/12/2024 11:31:51 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: And yet the usual crew was defending the guy to the hilt. These guys are addicts, it’s just that their drug is different. Yup, really big deer make some dudes do really stupid shit. The “kings deer” crowd are a really ignorant bunch. It wasn’t even a lifetime ago that many big game species were on the brink of extinction in this country. These laws exist for a reason, and the people that are willing to knowingly and blatantly break them are taking opportunities from those of us who follow the rules. |
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Posted: 5/12/2024 11:32:24 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This is goofy. Family member says you can hunt on their land but it has to be in writing? My aunt/cousins own a bunch of adjacent land. One cousin will give permission to anyone who calls and asks, but one section is HEAVY with deer and always has a lot of hunters on it, mostly with permission. Last time I was there I was sitting on a fence line glassing for deer and guy pulls up in his pickup, crosses the fence and walks out to me. Asks me my name. I have it to him and said, “you know that fence you just crossed to come over here? I built it. Can I help you with anything else?” I’ve taken a lot of sausage out of that field but haven’t for years now. Can’t hunt it without running into some other asshole who thinks it’s his. Grandma, the owner, forbade him. That’s wierd but maybe she knows a little shit asshole when she sees one,
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Posted: 5/12/2024 11:33:56 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Grandma, the owner, forbade him. That’s wierd but maybe she knows a little shit asshole when she sees one, She probably knew he was a jacklighting POS. This trial might be entertaining to watch given the family drama involved. |
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Posted: 5/12/2024 11:37:37 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I don't think it's illegal to have sex with dead animals. If he managed to have sex with that big of a deer while it was alive, I'd sure hate to be his cellmate. Lol, it was pointed out during my Penal Law class that it is illegal to have sex with a dead human body. It is illegal to have sex with animals. It did not say anything abought having sex with dead animals. 
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Posted: 5/12/2024 11:38:35 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So I skimmed the indictment. Seems they are getting him for felony theft for endorsements/stories he sold to magazines and products. He also is getting indicted for jacklighting on that property (the one he killed the record on.) I’m not sure if it’s for jacklighting the record buck or not. We’ll see what the jury says, but he certainly sounds like a POS if they have enough evidence for 23 indictments. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: THis is the location of the property the DNR says he really killed the buck on. 39.436374 , -83.857519 A church and few businesses nearby. Maybe they got him on camera dragging the deer out? Link to indictment https://www.ohioattorneygeneral.gov/Files/Briefing-Room/News-Releases/CHRISTOPHER-ALEXANDER-INDICTMENT.aspx So I skimmed the indictment. Seems they are getting him for felony theft for endorsements/stories he sold to magazines and products. He also is getting indicted for jacklighting on that property (the one he killed the record on.) I’m not sure if it’s for jacklighting the record buck or not. We’ll see what the jury says, but he certainly sounds like a POS if they have enough evidence for 23 indictments. Also stealing memory cards from other guys cameras (count 11) and poaching a different buck earlier in the year (count 9 and 10). I'm sure the guy has plenty of acquaintances he's pissed off that are ready to inform on him. Count 17 says he moved the deer and deer guts to the location owned by Kristina (grandma or sister?), and then doctored the permission slip he had to hunt on her property. Then about $20k in accepting money from others to promote his false story. |
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Posted: 5/12/2024 11:39:47 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: She probably knew he was a jacklighting POS. This trial might be entertaining to watch given the family drama involved. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Grandma, the owner, forbade him. That’s wierd but maybe she knows a little shit asshole when she sees one, She probably knew he was a jacklighting POS. This trial might be entertaining to watch given the family drama involved. No way he takes it to trial. He'll plea to avoid going to prison for the felonies. |
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Posted: 5/12/2024 11:41:56 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Lol, it was pointed out during my Penal Law class that it is illegal to have sex with a dead human body. It is illegal to have sex with animals. It did not say anything abought having sex with dead animals. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I don't think it's illegal to have sex with dead animals. If he managed to have sex with that big of a deer while it was alive, I'd sure hate to be his cellmate. Lol, it was pointed out during my Penal Law class that it is illegal to have sex with a dead human body. It is illegal to have sex with animals. It did not say anything abought having sex with dead animals. Many years ago, there was a forum dedicated to sex with dead animals. An acquaintance found it while working on his (masters? Dissertation?) psychology degree. They had a subforum for best health practices… really. |
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Posted: 5/12/2024 11:43:47 AM EDT
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I see the usual suspects are defending a POS.
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Posted: 5/12/2024 11:43:54 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Also stealing memory cards from other guys cameras (count 11) and poaching a different buck earlier in the year (count 9 and 10). I'm sure the guy has plenty of acquaintances he's pissed off that are ready to inform on him. Count 17 says he moved the deer and deer guts to the location owned by Kristina (grandma or sister?), and then doctored the permission slip he had to hunt on her property. Then about $20k in accepting money from others to promote his false story. Oh yeah forgot to mention those. This wasn’t a dude getting strung up on a minor infraction like having permission from family but not “written” permission. This looks like a grade A dirtbag poacher. It usually catches up to them eventually, and looks like in this case it did. He’ll get his day in court I guess. I’m surprised he didn’t just plead out to avoid the felonies or something. |
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Posted: 5/12/2024 11:45:35 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Grandma, the owner, forbade him. That's wierd but maybe she knows a little shit asshole when she sees one, Are cell phones always recording your gps location? I know it happens when you make a call. Were the bunny cops able to go to the cell phone company and get year old locations? There was some issue with his step mother who may have been on the deed to his sisters land. No grandmother issue. that I know of. This dude has given several interviews. One right after he killed the 18 point and one after they took his shit. Claims his dad is a detective. If he was gulity you would have thought he would be smart enough to not give interviews to some hunting pod cast where they asked tons of questions about the case. |
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Posted: 5/12/2024 11:45:55 AM EDT
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Poached?
No. He just trespassed to go hunt it. Charge that. People get so butthurt about deer it's hilarious. They all think they would have shot the big one if it weren't for someone else. |
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Posted: 5/12/2024 11:49:04 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: She probably knew he was a jacklighting POS. This trial might be entertaining to watch given the family drama involved. In one place I used to live we had one addict that really stood out. He was a state prison guard. His mommy would drop him off on posted lands so that he could poach deer that people were talking about. He also screwed his coworkers, they did swaps, you work my shift and I’ll work yours in the summer. They had an organized program. He’d take swaps off during the fall and then not show up for the shifts he was obligated to to the tune of hundreds of hours and the guy whose shift it originally one is the guy on the hook. He was so bad I believe they criminally prosecuted him for theft and fired him. His coworkers were going to murder him if he stayed. Oh and funny thing is he had transferred to the Conservation Law Enforcement Division early in his state service and was told to leave or face firing. He went back to the prison gig. There was something to do with an attempted murder and one of the male parties in a three way love triangle jumping out a second story window under fire. Funny how my life never had that kind of drama. |
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Posted: 5/12/2024 11:50:28 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Many years ago, there was a forum dedicated to sex with dead animals. An acquaintance found it while working on his (masters? Dissertation?) psychology degree. They had a subforum for best health practices… really. That’s nasty! [/Cleveland] |
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Posted: 5/12/2024 11:52:14 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This happened here a few year ago. I stopped hunting cause of work schedule. I gave a couple guys I know permission to hunt my land. They sent me pictures of a massive buck for our area. They had trail cams all over the place and would post pics on Facebook. One early morning guy shows up at the gas station, with a massive buck. Said it was one shot and it dropped .it was the same deer as the other guys had on camera. Dude even posted where he shot it on Facebook. Buddies check trail cams and there is asshole at 430am on there cams on my land. His own pics were time stamped and matched the trail cams. The game wardens were not amused. It cost him a lot. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Ohio uses an Etag system. I highly suspect that tips off ODNR via location data. That and metadata via pictures, social media, etc. Get a warrant for cell phone location data for the time of the kill, and bam… This happened here a few year ago. I stopped hunting cause of work schedule. I gave a couple guys I know permission to hunt my land. They sent me pictures of a massive buck for our area. They had trail cams all over the place and would post pics on Facebook. One early morning guy shows up at the gas station, with a massive buck. Said it was one shot and it dropped .it was the same deer as the other guys had on camera. Dude even posted where he shot it on Facebook. Buddies check trail cams and there is asshole at 430am on there cams on my land. His own pics were time stamped and matched the trail cams. The game wardens were not amused. It cost him a lot. here in RVA, we have a rather famous Cemetary, (Jeff Davis and a few US Presidents buried there) also has a lot of foot traffic,, great scenery and a bit of wild life so dude kills a big buck , posts pics everywhere, gets lots of Kudos, and then someone recognized the deer as one from the Cemetary, Hollywood is on the James, and intown, no hunting, no adjoining land to hunt, things did not go well for him https://www.outdoorlife.com/conservation/hollywood-cemetery-buck-poaching-investigation/ FWIW,, I have met Mr Draper (quoted in the article) he is not only a great photog, but was a very avid hunter back in the day, |
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Posted: 5/12/2024 11:53:06 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If he was gulity you would have thought he would be smart enough to not give interviews to some hunting pod cast where they asked tons of questions about the case. No problem if you think you're smarter than the investigators and covered your tracks. Only... that didn't work out. |
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Posted: 5/12/2024 11:53:51 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The land the OH DNR says he hunted on was owned by an oil company. They say he killed a 150" 8 on that property the previous hunting season. They know the exact dates he hunted. Are cell phones always recording your gps location? I know it happens when you make a call. Were the bunny cops able to go to the cell phone company and get year old locations? There was some issue with his step mother who may have been on the deed to his sisters land. No grandmother issue. that I know of. This dude has given several interviews. One right after he killed the 18 point and one after they took his shit. Claims his dad is a dective. If he was gulity you would have thought he would be smart enough to not give interviews to some hunting pod cast where they asked tons of questions about the case. Sorry perhaps my memory of the original thread is weak. I thought it was grandma’s land and she had refused him specifically from hunting it. |
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Posted: 5/12/2024 11:57:46 AM EDT
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In this thread we see who doesnt own property and deal with the constant hunting season trespassing assholes that are a huge pain in the ass.
And to the Kings deer Shitheads! They are everyones deer. |
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Posted: 5/12/2024 11:58:35 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: here in RVA, we have a rather famous Cemetary, (Jeff Davis and a few US Presidents buried there) also has a lot of foot traffic,, great scenery and a bit of wild life so dude kills a big buck , posts pics everywhere, gets lots of Kudos, and then someone recognized the deer as one from the Cemetary, Hollywood is on the James, and intown, no hunting, no adjoining land to hunt, things did not go well for him https://www.outdoorlife.com/conservation/hollywood-cemetery-buck-poaching-investigation/ FWIW,, I have met Mr Draper (quoted in the article) he is not only a great photog, but was a very avid hunter back in the day, That’s genaerally a hard rule in a cemetery, the no hunting. Oddly I had permission as a young man to bow hunt the cemetery lands that were undeveloped and never would be due to water erosion. I used to deliver their newspaper and knew the manager and our land butted up to their undevelopable section. My guidance was to have fun, just obviously stay out of sight of cemetery visitors. Easy enough. |
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Posted: 5/12/2024 12:02:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: 23 charges? Seems quite excessive unless they found his DNA inside the deer or something. So they checked Metadata on the pic. Saw it wasn't where he said it was. Then they went back and checked all the other photos he had with deer he had killed. Realized those were poached too. Charges for each one's |
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Posted: 5/12/2024 12:03:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Sorry perhaps my memory of the original thread is weak. I thought it was grandma’s land and she had refused him specifically from hunting it. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: The land the OH DNR says he hunted on was owned by an oil company. They say he killed a 150" 8 on that property the previous hunting season. They know the exact dates he hunted. Are cell phones always recording your gps location? I know it happens when you make a call. Were the bunny cops able to go to the cell phone company and get year old locations? There was some issue with his step mother who may have been on the deed to his sisters land. No grandmother issue. that I know of. This dude has given several interviews. One right after he killed the 18 point and one after they took his shit. Claims his dad is a dective. If he was gulity you would have thought he would be smart enough to not give interviews to some hunting pod cast where they asked tons of questions about the case. Sorry perhaps my memory of the original thread is weak. I thought it was grandma’s land and she had refused him specifically from hunting it. The auditor's website shows that parcel is owned by Kristina & Jeanne Alexander, and is about 8 acres (1 acre is listed separately). Kristina is the sister, who has also been charged according to the link in the OP. If both are listed as the owner, then I would think either could sign a permission slip for him. But it's still only 8 acres with a mobile home in the middle of it, and is 13 miles away from the GPS coordinates listed earlier in the indictment where he poached the deer. |
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Posted: 5/12/2024 12:07:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Maybe he's a poacher, or maybe Ohio is taking a page from the West Virginia playbook. https://thecivilrightslawyer.com/2022/11/24/officers-lose-their-trophies-they-chose-poorly/ Exactly what I'm wondering. If he killed it illegally, then he deserves what he gets. However, here in VA, I've witnessed first hand a significant amount of corruption with some of our conservation officers. A guy we hunt with that's fairly unpopular killed a monster buck and they literally harassed him. Pulling him over almost daily, harassed the rest of the group of hunters about it, etc. all trying to get proof that he killed it illegally. This went on almost the whole hunting season before they gave up. I also saw them charge another guy with a crime that he didn't commit. I was there when the "alleged" crime happened and he didn't do what they claimed. They then lied in court to escalate the charges. I know this is vague as I don't want to put the exact details of what happened on here, but it was the craziest thing I've ever seen. He ended up taking a plea deal against everyone's advice. There is 0% chance he would have gotten convicted at a trial. The sheriff's department sent out an investigator who also determined that what the conservation officers claimed wasn't possible. As well as multiple witnesses that were going to testify in his defense. He couldn't sleep, had trouble focusing at work, kept having chest pains he was so stressed about it. Every time we all went to court, they'd ask to have it continued. This went on for months. His lawyer told him that it was probably going to go on for another year +. He told us all we didn't understand how bad it was stressing him out and he was going to take the plea deal and pay a fine to get it over with rather than spend another year tied up in court. Those two lessons taught me to be very skeptical when they accuse someone. |
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Posted: 5/12/2024 12:11:53 PM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryQuoted: It's a deer. Who gives a flying fuck? They should be on the extinction list. Why we allow these things to wander into highways and destroy property is an enigma to me. Exactly. I’d love to see them and the little asshole “hunters” around here gone forever. MUH DEER WOODS!! Shut up, you bought 4 tons of corn, shot a spike and drove around for 3 weeks with empty corn bags blowing out of your brodozer. |
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Posted: 5/12/2024 12:15:47 PM EDT
[#49]
He might be guilty OR he might be getting "Trumped", file dozens of charges and hope the jury will convict on one or two.
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Posted: 5/12/2024 12:18:05 PM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Poached? No. He just trespassed to go hunt it. Charge that. People get so butthurt about deer it's hilarious. They all think they would have shot the big one if it weren't for someone else. Bullshit, he was absolutely poaching, and not the first time apparently. |
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