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Posted: 12/15/2019 8:54:37 AM EDT
So I’ve been using just a piece of scrap plywood for a couple years as a pedal board. I decided to build a decent one finally. I want to use a loop switcher like the Moen GEC8 jr and have a spot for a wah and a volume pedal.
I’ve decided to go wireless as well and put a small pedestal on the very top to hold the RX unit and to also hold some LED’s so I can see the pedals better in the dark. I’ll add a power supply to it later, for now I’m just using one of those one spot wall plugs. I bought some 1/2” CDX ply and some maple trim with really nice flaming that I found at the local hardware store. I’m not using any real fancy joinery or anything like that, just wood glue and gold screws. Here are my plans I came up with although I’ve changed a couple things here and there. I’ve ditched using hinges on the top and added a 1x2 piece of maple to the front of the top deck.  Attached File |
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Posted: 12/15/2019 9:02:32 AM EDT
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I’ve got it almost finished now. Here are some photos of the construction.
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Posted: 12/15/2019 9:05:28 AM EDT
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Don’t mind the dirty rug. It’s cold outside so I’m building it inside in my basement lol. Here is how it sits now. Also a shot of the flaming in the maple trim.
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Posted: 12/15/2019 9:29:52 AM EDT
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Nice!
I'm subscribing to see the finished product. |
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Posted: 12/15/2019 9:57:06 AM EDT
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Nice! I'm subscribing to see the finished product. So far I have considerably less than $100 invested in it. That’ll obviously go up when I start adding the input/output jacks and wiring. I’ll probably put an A/B switch ahead of the loop switcher also so I can run some stand alone multi effects pedals and an MXR talk box. I’m very limited in my knowledge on effects and setting up a sound chain but I’m learning. Lol. |
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Posted: 12/15/2019 11:24:09 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Thanks. I'm gonna try to get it completed in the next few days but I have to take some of it outside and use the router on it but it's snowing right now. So far I have considerably less than $100 invested in it. That'll obviously go up when I start adding the input/output jacks and wiring. I'll probably put an A/B switch ahead of the loop switcher also so I can run some stand alone multi effects pedals and an MXR talk box. I'm very limited in my knowledge on effects and setting up a sound chain but I'm learning. Lol. Makes it look all 3D! Yeah, I know there's an order to put the effects so they don't wash each other out, but I can't remember. It's been years since I was deep into experimenting with effects and all that. |
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Posted: 12/15/2019 11:44:24 AM EDT
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One thing you can do to really make that flame maple POP is apply the color you want then lightly sand it until you remove some of the color then clear coat. Makes it look all 3D! Yeah, I know there's an order to put the effects so they don't wash each other out, but I can't remember. It's been years since I was deep into experimenting with effects and all that. As far as effects in general I never used any at all until maybe 5 years ago? Just because mainly when I was younger I never had the money to invest in them and after I could afford them I just had very little knowledge on them. My first was a tube screamer because that’s what Stevie used. |
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Posted: 12/15/2019 2:04:59 PM EDT
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I used some black dye on a guitar I built then lightly sanded, then dyed it blue, then clear coated a bunch.
I'll get a picture up in a bit. The black stays black and the blue stays in the higher grain. 
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Posted: 12/15/2019 7:16:58 PM EDT
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I used some black dye on a guitar I built then lightly sanded, then dyed it blue, then clear coated a bunch. I'll get a picture up in a bit. The black stays black and the blue stays in the higher grain. https://i.imgur.com/Hj7TYPY.jpg https://i.imgur.com/6ZFWTXL.jpg https://i.imgur.com/EhJq0ty.jpg |
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Posted: 12/15/2019 7:50:44 PM EDT
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Thanks man!
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Posted: 12/15/2019 9:14:32 PM EDT
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Do you think stain would work the same? I’ve tried a small test piece but I think I need to stain and sand back a few times to get it really deep. I’m using minwax. I have ebony and red chestnut both.
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Posted: 12/16/2019 7:28:41 AM EDT
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It should work just like dye I would think.
Just do the ebony first, sand, then apply the chestnut stain. Good idea doing it on a test piece first! |
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Posted: 12/16/2019 9:22:41 PM EDT
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Posted: 12/17/2019 7:24:34 AM EDT
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Looks nice!
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Posted: 12/17/2019 7:33:12 AM EDT
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In to see the finished product and to steal ideas.
 My board is hot garbage. 
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Posted: 12/17/2019 8:05:23 AM EDT
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In to see the finished product and to steal ideas. My board is hot garbage.  Attached File |
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Posted: 12/17/2019 3:17:42 PM EDT
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Posted: 12/17/2019 9:46:55 PM EDT
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I still have the top to router and finish and I have to wait for the stain to dry before I apply the tung oil but so far so good I think.
Then I’m gonna have to start populating it.  Attached File |
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Posted: 12/17/2019 9:50:27 PM EDT
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Looking good
Edit: are those 8 tracks? |
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Posted: 12/17/2019 9:56:09 PM EDT
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Looking good Edit: are those 8 tracks? |
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Posted: 12/17/2019 10:21:25 PM EDT
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So I have this Glaze coat left over from an old project. I’m thinking about flooding the base with it. Just enough to cover the black smoothly. Then tung oil all the rest.
Any thoughts? Good or bad idea?  Attached File |
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Posted: 12/17/2019 10:26:34 PM EDT
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Looks awesome!
Ive sadly never owned a pedal board. I've got 4 pedals I've never even hooked up. Kids  One of these days I'll get to it. I'm pretty much limited to playing acoustic guitar in church every now and then. Keeps me practicing so I'll take it. Plus, I enjoy sharing my talents with people that appreciate it no matter how good/bad it is! |
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Posted: 12/17/2019 10:40:25 PM EDT
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Looks awesome! Ive sadly never owned a pedal board. I've got 4 pedals I've never even hooked up. Kids One of these days I'll get to it. I'm pretty much limited to playing acoustic guitar in church every now and then. Keeps me practicing so I'll take it. Plus, I enjoy sharing my talents with people that appreciate it no matter how good/bad it is! This is just a board to sit in my basement with my amp. Im just tired of it all looking tacky. I’m the same way as you about playing only where it’s appreciated. That’s the reason I only play alone in my basement lol. |
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Posted: 12/17/2019 10:42:22 PM EDT
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Also I never owned a pedal till I was in my 40’s so... Personal growth for me.
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Posted: 12/17/2019 10:56:21 PM EDT
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I went from stomp boxes to rack-mounted effects and back to pedals.
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Posted: 12/17/2019 11:27:24 PM EDT
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I went from stomp boxes to rack-mounted effects and back to pedals.
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Posted: 12/17/2019 11:51:42 PM EDT
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Posted: 12/18/2019 12:09:52 AM EDT
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I also have BLO and Danish Oil for the final finish. I like the way BLO feels but I’m not sure how durable it’ll be for a pedal board.
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Posted: 12/18/2019 7:27:17 AM EDT
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Awesome winter project.
That looks badass! |
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Posted: 12/18/2019 8:21:57 AM EDT
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Awesome winter project. That looks badass! |
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Posted: 12/18/2019 9:22:04 AM EDT
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That looks really good. I've never seen a pedalboard tiered quite like yours before, so I'm interested in seeing the final product with the pedals in there. I designed my pedalboard in Inventor, to get the spacing for all the pedals how I wanted, then built it out of cheap pine from Lowes. I just spray painted it black, nothing fancy.
As far as pedal order, just google that, but basically you want your overdrives/distortions first in the signal chain, then time-based pedals, like delay/reverb/etc at the end. Wah can sound good before or after your distortion pedals, just experiment and see what sounds best. My pedal order is Compressor-->Volume Pedal-->OD1-->OD2-->OD3-->Octave Pedal-->Delay-->Reverb1-->Reverb2. |
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Posted: 12/18/2019 9:31:47 AM EDT
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That looks really good. I've never seen a pedalboard tiered quite like yours before, so I'm interested in seeing the final product with the pedals in there. I designed my pedalboard in Inventor, to get the spacing for all the pedals how I wanted, then built it out of cheap pine from Lowes. I just spray painted it black, nothing fancy. As far as pedal order, just google that, but basically you want your overdrives/distortions first in the signal chain, then time-based pedals, like delay/reverb/etc at the end. Wah can sound good before or after your distortion pedals, just experiment and see what sounds best. My pedal order is Compressor-->Volume Pedal-->OD1-->OD2-->OD3-->Octave Pedal-->Delay-->Reverb1-->Reverb2. |
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Posted: 12/18/2019 10:18:26 AM EDT
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Typically what works best in effects loops, if you're using the amp for gain/drive/distortion, are the time-based effects. The effects loop puts them between your pre-amp stage and your power amp stage. Put your reverb/delays in the effects loop, not going into the front of your amp.
Edit - also, before you start mounting pedals on the board, get the whole signal chain how you like it off the board. THEN put the pedals on the board and recreate it. It's a PITA to try to experiment with pedal order on the board, as the velcro and patch cables running everywhere make it like trying to unwrap christmas lights from a bicycle. |
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Posted: 12/18/2019 10:36:33 AM EDT
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@SoloDallas
How do you use effects loops? Got any feedback on the order of pedals in a pedal board? Your our resident effects specialist, figured we should hear from the expert! I've actually never used effect loops before but mainly because I don't know when/how to. |
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Posted: 12/18/2019 11:34:03 AM EDT
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@SoloDallas How do you use effects loops? Got any feedback on the order of pedals in a pedal board? Your our resident effects specialist, figured we should hear from the expert! I've actually never used effect loops before but mainly because I don't know when/how to. I am not an expert on effects - paradoxically: I don't use them. Although I am the founder of SoloDallas LLC for the Schaffer Replica, I really live in older times where we'd go straight into the amplifier's front without any effects loop; matter of fact, I don't have effects loop and it's not even there on the amplifier (the one model) we make: we suggest to plug in into the front of the amplifier. The reason for this with us is that we do seek those vintage tones that can be better had this way, as opposed to go the modern way. This being said, the rule in putting one effect before (or after the other) on a pedalboard is noise ratio AND chance of clipping the input of the next pedal. Usually, distortion pedals and boosts (like ours) go for last for this reason and one'd put modulation and clean-signal pedals (delays, reverbs) before. But it is a rule often unobserved because experimentation in this field is so much fun and such a creative process: I do indeed suggest you to experiment as much as you can and LISTEN with your ears. Close your eyes, play, watch with your ears what happens. It's worth it, it's fun (done when appropriately and not 5 minutes before going live on your gig) and so on and forth. PS I did appreciate immensely the mention, though! Internal news for us: both John Mayer and Joe Perry just got my products last week and are both enthusiastic about them. We should see them soon showing some hints to social media. Baci, |
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Posted: 12/18/2019 11:39:27 AM EDT
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whew...I don't use the loop either. Now I don't feel like such a dummy.
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Posted: 12/18/2019 11:55:06 AM EDT
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Thanks brother, I am not an expert on effects - paradoxically: I don't use them. Although I am the founder of SoloDallas LLC for the Schaffer Replica, I really live in older times where we'd go straight into the amplifier's front without any effects loop; matter of fact, I don't have effects loop and it's not even there on the amplifier (the one model) we make: we suggest to plug in into the front of the amplifier. The reason for this with us is that we do seek those vintage tones that can be better had this way, as opposed to go the modern way. This being said, the rule in putting one effect before (or after the other) on a pedalboard is noise ratio AND chance of clipping the input of the next pedal. Usually, distortion pedals and boosts (like ours) go for last for this reason and one'd put modulation and clean-signal pedals (delays, reverbs) before. But it is a rule often unobserved because experimentation in this field is so much fun and such a creative process: I do indeed suggest you to experiment as much as you can and LISTEN with your ears. Close your eyes, play, watch with your ears what happens. It's worth it, it's fun (done when appropriately and not 5 minutes before going live on your gig) and so on and forth. PS I did appreciate immensely the mention, though! Internal news for us: both John Mayer and Joe Perry just got my products last week and are both enthusiastic about them. We should see them soon showing some hints to social media. Baci, I agree on experimenting 100%, just wish it didn't cost so much money to experiment with effects pedals! Haha. Keep rocking guys! |
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Posted: 12/18/2019 12:55:32 PM EDT
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Yes! Thank you so much!!! I don’t foresee running anything into the loop but I want the jacks there so it can be configured as such shall I ever want to play around.
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Posted: 12/18/2019 1:19:02 PM EDT
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Yes! Thank you so much!!! I don’t foresee running anything into the loop but I want the jacks there so it can be configured as such shall I ever want to play around. |
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Posted: 12/18/2019 4:49:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: How are you doing the jacks? Do you have a pic of that yet?  Attached File |
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Posted: 12/18/2019 4:57:32 PM EDT
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So my next step after this is finished is I want to build a hutch that this can be pushed into and covered when not in use. It’ll sit on the floor in the door jam of a set of double doors I removed. I mean right on the floor. No legs.
My Marshall half stack currently sits there. I want to have the Marshall sit on top of the hutch and set up a curtain to go around the back of it all. Almost like a small stage just for the amp to where the pedal board can disappear into. This is to separate my basement den area from my work room without it looking just like a set of double doors. Also to utilize space. So this setup will likely never leave my little man cave of audio and video bliss... ETA it all has to be relatively easy to remove. No tools or demo. |
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Posted: 12/18/2019 7:05:29 PM EDT
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Looks fantastic OP
@SoloDallas - PM me, I'd like to grab a storm from you. |
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Posted: 12/18/2019 7:19:28 PM EDT
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Looks fantastic OP @SoloDallas - PM me, I'd like to grab a storm from you. (I have mentioned it to depletion but this forum feels like home - I learned more here than at College - everyone from ARFCOM gets 30% off) |
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Posted: 12/19/2019 3:02:53 PM EDT
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I decided to use an oil poly clear semi-gloss. The first coat is down and it looks pretty good for my taste I think. Some spots you can see the ebony was sucked up into the grain of the maple and a spot or two that just eluded me till after the clear went down but I still like it.
Just a few more coats and sandings to go. Then maybe I’ll get the top done.  Attached File Attached File Attached File Attached File Attached File |
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Posted: 12/19/2019 3:36:19 PM EDT
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This is kind-of what I want to do. I’m remodeling my den I have in my basement and figured it’d look good and make good use of space since it looked tacky as hell with them two big doors just right there. It’ll hide my work bench from view too which I like.
I just have to make sure that I do the top of the little stage/board hutch so it can handle the load of the amp with no real center support out front. It’s a 4 foot wide doorway. I just have to make sure that I can pick up that stage and move it with no trouble since it’ll block the only way I can get my washer and dryer into the utility room. It shouldn’t be much of a problem.  Attached File |
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Posted: 12/20/2019 12:53:30 PM EDT
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Oh this is for your own enjoyment in your house, was going to say that looks heavy as hell to cart around!
Progress looks good man. |
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Posted: 12/21/2019 2:21:49 PM EDT
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Thanks, yes I just play at home. If I ever decide to take it anywhere I may just build a smaller board. This is just for me to load up and play with effects and make it look decent in the house.
I built a jig and routered the top. I made it where I could just slide the top through, clamp, router, and slide. It’s not perfect but it’s good enough for me to go forward with finishing it.  Attached File Attached File |
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Posted: 12/21/2019 8:23:02 PM EDT
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Posted: 12/23/2019 3:02:25 AM EDT
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I still have to do another couple of coats of clear on the top and finish sand it all. I’ve placed a silver dollar in the inlay spot I made but I’ll hand engrave a brass medallion to go in there.
Also I’m glad I went with ebony stain instead of black paint. I like the wood grain is visible still.  Attached File Attached File |
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Posted: 12/23/2019 9:55:52 AM EDT
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Looks really nice.....too nice for arfcom.
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Posted: 12/23/2019 10:55:49 AM EDT
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Thanks. It looks good if you squint a little lol. There are quite a few imperfections so I guess it’s more of a polished turd than anything else lol.
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