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Posted: 6/23/2023 9:56:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RockNwood: If it works then probably none at all. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RockNwood: Originally Posted By ColdSmoke: What are the odds the CIA had a hand in this? If it works then probably none at all. Ain't that the God's honest truth! |
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Posted: 6/23/2023 9:56:49 PM EDT
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Posted: 6/23/2023 9:57:38 PM EDT
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Posted: 6/23/2023 9:58:58 PM EDT
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Videos
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Posted: 6/23/2023 9:59:05 PM EDT
[Last Edit: HIPPO]
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theory of action to ponder… ok im in texas watching this... BUT from what im getting and what i think will happen is..... right now WAG forces are going to rostov with a clear mandate to do the following... 1. take the 4 airfields. 2. clear the skies of all unfriendly aircraft. 3. rush the military storage areas and secure food fuel and ammo. 4. take the black sea fleet HQ 5. link up with units of the russian army that are on his side 6. secure all the roads in and out of the city 7. stay out of the center of town until he gets the surrender of the national guard and the police.. then 8. move on any remaining military not friendly to him. this should take 1-2 days to set up jump off points for his military. 9. IF he looks like he is winning i expect for ru units to join him, gerkins followers to join, and vets upset about the war also. then 10. do interviews to the nation telling the country how bad the war is going for russia and how bad it has been run. if he gets the word out he has a BIG chance to win. |
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Posted: 6/23/2023 10:00:35 PM EDT
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Video of tanks running through town
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Posted: 6/23/2023 10:01:09 PM EDT
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Posted: 6/23/2023 10:02:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HIPPO: theory of action to ponder… ok im in texas watching this... BUT from what im getting and what i think will happen is..... right now WAG forces are going to rostov with a clear mandate to do the following... 1. take the 4 airfields. 2. clear the skies of all unfriendly aircraft. 3. rush the military storage areas and secure food fuel and ammo. 4. take the black sea fleet HQ 5. link up with units of the russian army that are on his side 6. secure all the roads in and out of the city 7. stay out of the center of town until he gets the surrender of the national guard and the police.. then 8. move on any remaining military not friendly to him. this should take 1-2 days to set up jump off points for his military. 9. IF he looks like he is winning i expect for ru units to join him, gerkins followers to join, and vets upset about the war also. then 10. do interviews to the nation telling the country how bad the war is going for russia and how bad it has been run. if he gets the word out he has a BIG chance to win. Rostov is the military and trade center of gravity. He might use that leverage to force MoD change in Moscow. |
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Posted: 6/23/2023 10:02:42 PM EDT
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Posted: 6/23/2023 10:03:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By j_hooker: What a crazy plot twist. We have been strolling along everyday on the thread, starts off as a typical day to catch up on reading during my morning coffee. Get some projects worked on, check back in and, BAM!! Just like that, it appears SHTF for Russia.. just crazy Quoted for truth! Crazy days now 
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Posted: 6/23/2023 10:03:17 PM EDT
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It looks like that the local authorities in Rostov have set up barricades made up by busses, but the troops, which are presumably Wagner units, simply bypass them by going over the sidewalk and the lawns nearby, while Omon units just look at them. I think Wagner is now taking over of Rostov. Source: Nexta |
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Posted: 6/23/2023 10:03:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JustaGunNut:
😂😂😂 Do we need to add another column to the Russian Losses scorecard for Wagner? |
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Posted: 6/23/2023 10:04:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: There's going to be 20 pages for all of us to read tomorrow.  ISW assessment for June 23rd. https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campaign-assessment-june-23-2023 Not if we stay up all night. |
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Posted: 6/23/2023 10:04:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HIPPO: Rostov is where MoD HQ is a) conducting the war from and b) is a massive logistical hub for military materiel and forces. It's also the closest big X in proximity to Wagner forces rotating to/from the SMO. Wagner also has a major training facility outside of Krasnodar. HQ is in St. Petersburg. |
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Posted: 6/23/2023 10:05:45 PM EDT
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Posted: 6/23/2023 10:06:48 PM EDT
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If Ukraine isn't launching full our assaults they need to be. Now is the time to drop the bridge and go all out.
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Posted: 6/23/2023 10:08:02 PM EDT
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Posted: 6/23/2023 10:08:11 PM EDT
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Tons of videos of military armor rolling around Rostov. Now this…
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Posted: 6/23/2023 10:09:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DK-Prof: Now would seem like an excellent time for Germany/Poland to make a move on Königsberg.  Germany couldn't make a move on the girl scouts. |
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Posted: 6/23/2023 10:11:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ludder093: If Ukraine isn't launching full our assaults they need to be. Now is the time to drop the bridge and go all out. If it were me, I would just keep on like nothing had happened for the next 12 hours or so. Let the news sink in. Bake a cake. Eat a steak. Then kick them in the balls. Demoralized is probably a good word for the Russian front line right now. And it's just going to get worse with time. |
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Posted: 6/23/2023 10:11:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By johnspark: I was waiting on this...Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By johnspark: Originally Posted By Prime: Originally Posted By yekimak: Lol..  https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/203719/IMG_3300-2861408.jpg  I was waiting on this...
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Posted: 6/23/2023 10:13:00 PM EDT
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If they actually take Rostov it is the equivalent of the 10th largest city in the US with a population of 1.1 million. Sized between Dallas and Austin.
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Posted: 6/23/2023 10:14:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Pants223: Quoted for truth! Crazy days now Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Pants223: Originally Posted By j_hooker: What a crazy plot twist. We have been strolling along everyday on the thread, starts off as a typical day to catch up on reading during my morning coffee. Get some projects worked on, check back in and, BAM!! Just like that, it appears SHTF for Russia.. just crazy Quoted for truth! Crazy days now That's how it went last time too when the wall came down. |
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Posted: 6/23/2023 10:14:45 PM EDT
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Posted: 6/23/2023 10:15:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Walleyeguy24: If they actually take Rostov it is the equivalent of the 10th largest city in the US with a population of 1.1 million. Sized between Dallas and Austin. Never been there but the videos make it look like one of the less shitty places in Russia. |
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Posted: 6/23/2023 10:15:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Walleyeguy24: If they actually take Rostov it is the equivalent of the 10th largest city in the US with a population of 1.1 million. Sized between Dallas and Austin. Super helpful to put it into context. Thanks. |
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Posted: 6/23/2023 10:16:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By THOT_Vaccine: If it were me, I would just keep on like nothing had happened for the next 12 hours or so. Let the news sink in. Bake a cake. Eat a steak. Then kick them in the balls. Demoralized is probably a good word for the Russian front line right now. And it's just going to get worse with time. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By THOT_Vaccine: Originally Posted By ludder093: If Ukraine isn't launching full our assaults they need to be. Now is the time to drop the bridge and go all out. If it were me, I would just keep on like nothing had happened for the next 12 hours or so. Let the news sink in. Bake a cake. Eat a steak. Then kick them in the balls. Demoralized is probably a good word for the Russian front line right now. And it's just going to get worse with time. |
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Posted: 6/23/2023 10:16:41 PM EDT
[Last Edit: FriskyDillo]
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Wagnerites on the move
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Posted: 6/23/2023 10:18:09 PM EDT
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Posted: 6/23/2023 10:18:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By doc540: A very opportune time to surrender “Head west, fight us, and die.” “Head east, fight your countrymen, and die.” “Surrender, and live.” |
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Posted: 6/23/2023 10:19:25 PM EDT
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Tons of video and pictures hitting the net. |
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Posted: 6/23/2023 10:19:56 PM EDT
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So….the equation has changed.
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Posted: 6/23/2023 10:20:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DK-Prof: Now would seem like an excellent time for Germany/Poland to make a move on K nigsberg. |
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Posted: 6/23/2023 10:21:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
Ugh. Because they knew air defense was forward shooting down Ka-52s. |
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Posted: 6/23/2023 10:22:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fike: So….the equation has changed. MoD=PMC2 |
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Posted: 6/23/2023 10:23:49 PM EDT
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What does all this mean with regards to nukes? I’m guessing that’s NATO’s main priority right now?
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Posted: 6/23/2023 10:24:55 PM EDT
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Doesn’t seem like Wagner is facing much resistance |
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Posted: 6/23/2023 10:25:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Lightning_P38: If this is all for real, and Wagner takes Rostov, I doubt they are going to allow supplies to move through to Russian forces in Ukraine, so for the Russian Army troops in Ukraine all they have is what's on hand, and Ukraine had been pounding ammo dumps and supply depots lately. IF, and it is still if, this is the real thing, the Russians in Ukraine will be cut off with no resupply or reinforcements coming, Russian Aviation assets will be diverted to deal with Wagner, and they have already blown their wad on cruise missiles. In a short time Russian and DPR/LPR forces could be hungry and out of ammo. Once the Russian artillery goes silent the Ukrainians will have a an old fashioned turkey shoot on their hands. |
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Posted: 6/23/2023 10:27:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Prime: Ugh. Because they knew air defense was forward shooting down Ka-52s. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Prime: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
Ugh. Because they knew air defense was forward shooting down Ka-52s. Those anti-ship missiles only job can and is to kill civilian apartment buildings. |
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Posted: 6/23/2023 10:27:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FriskyDillo:
Doesn’t seem like Wagner is facing much resistance Always look at the posture of the locals. In this case, it is curiosity…mobile phones out, no fear. |
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Posted: 6/23/2023 10:28:00 PM EDT
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Posted: 6/23/2023 10:28:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ludder093: If Ukraine isn't launching full our assaults they need to be. Now is the time to drop the bridge and go all out. I don’t know man, you go too big you may get everyone to stop what they’re doing and look your way. To be a fly on the wall in the command center right now. |
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Posted: 6/23/2023 10:29:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By YesChef: “Head west, fight us, and die.” “Head east, fight your countrymen, and die.” “Surrender, and live.” Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By YesChef: Originally Posted By doc540: A very opportune time to surrender “Head west, fight us, and die.” “Head east, fight your countrymen, and die.” “Surrender, and live.” There it is |
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Posted: 6/23/2023 10:30:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Prime: I don’t know man, you go too big you may get everyone to stop what they’re doing and look your way. To be a fly on the wall in the command center right now. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Prime: Originally Posted By ludder093: If Ukraine isn't launching full our assaults they need to be. Now is the time to drop the bridge and go all out. I don’t know man, you go too big you may get everyone to stop what they’re doing and look your way. To be a fly on the wall in the command center right now. Don’t get in the way of your enemy destroying itself. |
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Posted: 6/23/2023 10:31:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JustaGunNut:
😂 this is my favorite tweet of all time. |
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Posted: 6/23/2023 10:33:06 PM EDT
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Let's not forget, 30,000 or so ex- cons who owe their freedom to Prigozhan are roaming Russia
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Posted: 6/23/2023 10:33:32 PM EDT
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Little green men doing little green men things 
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Posted: 6/23/2023 10:34:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fike: Always look at the posture of the locals. In this case, it is curiosity mobile phones out, no fear. |
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Posted: 6/23/2023 10:34:49 PM EDT
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Posted: 6/23/2023 10:36:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fike: Don't get in the way of your enemy destroying itself. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fike: Originally Posted By Prime: Originally Posted By ludder093: If Ukraine isn't launching full our assaults they need to be. Now is the time to drop the bridge and go all out. I don't know man, you go too big you may get everyone to stop what they're doing and look your way. To be a fly on the wall in the command center right now. Don't get in the way of your enemy destroying itself. I would stay on offense, but keep my head on a swivel. Intelligence, intelligence, intelligence. |
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