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Posted: 7/29/2022 9:26:11 PM EST
[Last Edit: cancard]
brownells
Link Posted: 7/29/2022 9:30:56 PM EST
[Last Edit: stiglitz_actual] [#1]
yes

ETA: make sure to set it up for peak operational operations

Link Posted: 7/29/2022 9:31:44 PM EST
[#2]
Undoubtedly.
Link Posted: 7/29/2022 9:32:26 PM EST
[#3]


Yeah you need one.
Link Posted: 7/29/2022 9:33:03 PM EST
[#4]
Buy a real HK.  Many of the clone are either cosmetically deficient or mechanically not competent.

The POF guns especially have issues.
Link Posted: 7/29/2022 9:38:05 PM EST
[Last Edit: Dog1] [#5]
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Originally Posted By Wolfy42:
Buy a real HK.  Many of the clone are either cosmetically deficient or mechanically not competent.

The POF guns especially have issues.
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Bullshit.

I'm at nearly 2,000 rounds since I bought mine in May. Suppressed and unsuppressed. There's nothing wrong with it and there's nothing cosmetically flawed with it.


And any cosmetic flaws on mine is because I actually take it out and use it.

Link Posted: 7/29/2022 9:40:53 PM EST
[Last Edit: Sputnik556] [#6]
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Originally Posted By Wolfy42:
Buy a real HK.  Many of the clone are either cosmetically deficient or mechanically not competent.

The POF guns especially have issues.
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“That $1100 gun you’re interested in is no good, you should buy a $5000 gun.”
Link Posted: 7/29/2022 9:42:31 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Sputnik556:

“That $1100 gun you’re interested in is no good, you should buy a $5000 gun.”
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Lol..so true
Link Posted: 7/29/2022 9:42:44 PM EST
[#8]
I’m struggling not to buy a second one  for the truck.
Link Posted: 7/29/2022 9:44:00 PM EST
[#9]
My AP5 has been flawless.
115 gr Blazer Brass, Winchester, Fiochi, and Remington.
Lots of Winchester 124 gr NATO and Inman 125 gr.
And other random shit I can’t think of right now.
Link Posted: 7/29/2022 9:45:20 PM EST
[#10]
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Originally Posted By PeteyPete:
I’m struggling not to buy a second one  for the truck.
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I'm seriously considering a k model
Link Posted: 7/29/2022 9:48:53 PM EST
[Last Edit: PeteyPete] [#11]
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Originally Posted By Dog1:



I'm seriously considering a k model
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Same here. $1200 for a AP5p including a brace is killer deal for the “Under Siege” and “Die Hard” generation.

Also, I haven’t shot my full size yet, but the action is smooth and the finish is fantastic.
Link Posted: 7/29/2022 9:48:56 PM EST
[Last Edit: KILLERB6] [#12]
Link Posted: 7/29/2022 9:54:00 PM EST
[Last Edit: The_Punisher] [#13]
MP5 clones suck. That’s why I own 3 of them.

Link Posted: 7/29/2022 9:54:14 PM EST
[#14]
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Originally Posted By PeteyPete:

Same here. $1200 for a AP5p including a brace is killer deal for the “Under Siege” and “Die Hard” generation.

Also, I haven’t shot my full size yet, but the action is smooth and the finish is fantastic.
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100%

That's kind of why I got mine LOL
Link Posted: 7/29/2022 9:56:36 PM EST
[#15]
Definitely do NOT buy one

Buy 2

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Link Posted: 7/29/2022 10:02:44 PM EST
[#16]
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Originally Posted By Wolfy42:
Buy a real HK.  Many of the clone are either cosmetically deficient or mechanically not competent.

The POF guns especially have issues.
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Literally not a single thing you said was correct. We are all stupider for having read this. Congrats.
Link Posted: 7/29/2022 10:06:20 PM EST
[#17]
If I taped over the toll marks, you’d have a heck of a time distinguishing them. The only tell-tale is the finishing on the bolt and barrel, both of which are cleaner on the Hk. I currently own an older MKE imported by Zenith, a PTR and two HKs. The Zenith is easily on par with the Hk guns in terms of reliability and the fit/finish in the HKs isn’t good enough to buy one over an $1100 AP5 if you’re buying a shooter.
Link Posted: 7/29/2022 10:09:07 PM EST
[#18]
My Zenith MKEs are a blast and were totally worth it. I SBRed them and had to engrave them anyway so might as well do it on a cheaper gun.
Link Posted: 7/29/2022 10:11:18 PM EST
[#19]
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Originally Posted By waz0wski:
yes

ETA: make sure to set it up for peak operational operations

https://distortion.io/i/5BdjJW.jpg
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Nice.
Link Posted: 7/29/2022 10:13:27 PM EST
[#20]
Do it. No ragerts..

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Link Posted: 7/29/2022 10:14:14 PM EST
[#21]
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Originally Posted By Wolfy42:
Buy a real HK.  Many of the clone are either cosmetically deficient or mechanically not competent.

The POF guns especially have issues.
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Bullshit. Just picked one up, it's flawless.
Link Posted: 7/29/2022 10:16:07 PM EST
[#22]
I like my clone

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Link Posted: 7/29/2022 10:20:31 PM EST
[#23]
Couldn’t decide between the full size or the K so I bought both.
Link Posted: 7/29/2022 10:23:37 PM EST
[#24]
You know you need 1.  Attachment Attached File
Link Posted: 7/29/2022 10:24:46 PM EST
[#25]
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Originally Posted By dino1:
Couldn’t decide between the full size or the K so I bought both.
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#metoo
Link Posted: 7/29/2022 10:24:48 PM EST
[#26]
Yes
Link Posted: 7/29/2022 10:26:18 PM EST
[#27]
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Originally Posted By Wolfy42:
Buy a real HK.  Many of the clone are either cosmetically deficient or mechanically not competent.

The POF guns especially have issues.
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LOL. Moron.
Link Posted: 7/29/2022 10:37:00 PM EST
[#28]
Link Posted: 7/29/2022 10:49:43 PM EST
[#29]
As a PTR-9 owner, yes, yes you need a MP5. Obviously.
Link Posted: 7/29/2022 11:04:36 PM EST
[Last Edit: Electricview] [#30]




I'll be honest, Absolutely 0 regret getting 2.. I got these before the cheaper 'core' models, but i got 200$ rebate.. So worth it for the little extras..  Will it say HK on it? NOPE, is that worth 3k more? HELL NO, these are SOLID and have good finishes, and fire beautifully. The ONLY gripe I had was a little mag wobble, but i bought a new magazine catch lever of Hkparts for 20 bucks now my mags lock up so tight, I can hardly get them in with a closed bolt, but they have 0 wobble. Everything else is fantastic. (the welds on the full size ap5 are SLIGHTLY better than the -p model i also got). IF it's going to bother you that it doesnt say HK, then save up.. If you just want to 100% scratch that mp5 itch with looks, feel and shootability. these NAIL IT. hands down, no issues beyond that little wobble in mags.. (2-4mm nothing severe, and even without it fixed, I never could get it to miss-feed even when TRYING to do it, by holding the mag at different positions it was 100% reliable, so its a TINY thing).

LOVE EM.... stick to MKE-HK-POF mags tho, plastic sucks.

Also compared to the POF I do not like the kind of 'old cz 82 shitty' shinny look paint job those have (just not my thing!) .. but some like the metal lower.. I like the more modern plastic/poly lower and its just as strong and sturdy as the metal)

Get one and dont look back.... You wont regret it unless you NEED that rollmark.
Link Posted: 7/29/2022 11:13:12 PM EST
[#31]
My MKE MP-5 clone from Zenith several years ago runs great. No complaints.
Link Posted: 7/29/2022 11:16:33 PM EST
[#32]
I'm holding out for PSA!
Link Posted: 7/29/2022 11:18:45 PM EST
[#33]
Love mine more than my scorpion


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Link Posted: 7/29/2022 11:20:58 PM EST
[#34]
Yes just got mine it’s incredibly soft shooting and really accurate.  Most fun gun you can get for 1200
Link Posted: 7/30/2022 3:38:03 AM EST
[#35]
Picked up a “P” model the other day for $1200. Welds are pretty good but, not perfect like on HKs.

Ordered a couple of spare MKE mags ($99) from Atlantic as well.
Link Posted: 7/30/2022 3:38:41 AM EST
[#36]
Buy all of the 9mm Luger guns
Link Posted: 7/30/2022 3:44:17 AM EST
[#37]
get a P version


Link Posted: 7/30/2022 3:47:38 AM EST
[#38]
Do you even #Nakatomi ?
Link Posted: 7/30/2022 4:04:14 AM EST
[Last Edit: imonkeyman] [#39]
Link Posted: 7/30/2022 4:08:23 AM EST
[#40]
Yes, op needs a AP5*






* I expect op to say the same for me when Century brings in a batch of 43P's

i did not know about Zenith and MKE until after the partnership fell apart. So- unless HK is about to make a SP-43P or SP-33K whatever they will call it I will be needing the Century/MKE version
Link Posted: 7/30/2022 4:28:25 AM EST
[#41]
I just put my first 500 rounds through mine yesterday. No hiccups. Attachment Attached File


I'm seriously considering a k version now as well.
Link Posted: 7/30/2022 4:40:24 AM EST
[#42]
Can someone please tell me how much quieter suppressed they are compared to a 8” cmmg banshee?  Not sure how to quantify it, is it 80% the noise of a banshee or 50% of the noise?
Link Posted: 7/30/2022 4:41:05 AM EST
[Last Edit: ArmedPete] [#43]
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Originally Posted By Wolfy42:
Buy a real HK.  Many of the clone are either cosmetically deficient or mechanically not competent.

The POF guns especially have issues.
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The “real” HK is not even a 3 pin gun.
My MKE Zenith has been 100% and my friends POF runs great.
OP, take a look at the US made Zenith guns. I don’t have one yet, but when the K model drops I am grabbing one.
Link Posted: 7/30/2022 5:01:18 AM EST
[#44]
Yes, you need a AP5. I just picked one up a few days ago and am very pleased with the fit and finish. I’ll be taking it to the range in a few days to test it out.
Link Posted: 7/30/2022 5:16:32 AM EST
[#45]
In on this too.  I know I want one, it just making the funds available and committing them too it.

I mean it looks like 1600-1900 for the gun,

Then a 12-20 mags.

a RDS of some sort.

A stock, 200 Tax Stamp.

Probably a different front rail, hand guard, furniture or whatever you want to call it.

What else???

Link Posted: 7/30/2022 5:35:27 AM EST
[Last Edit: Starzec] [#46]
Hell yes, get two. I haven’t had this much fun shooting since I was a kid with a .22. I’m going all in with 2 stamps.Attachment Attached File
Link Posted: 7/30/2022 5:48:33 AM EST
[#47]
I have a 2 stamp PTR 9ct, it is pure fun.
Link Posted: 7/30/2022 5:53:04 AM EST
[Last Edit: Scott-S6] [#48]
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Originally Posted By Sputnik556:

“That $1100 gun you’re interested in is no good, you should buy a $5000 gun.”
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Originally Posted By Sputnik556:
Originally Posted By Wolfy42:
Buy a real HK.  Many of the clone are either cosmetically deficient or mechanically not competent.

The POF guns especially have issues.

“That $1100 gun you’re interested in is no good, you should buy a $5000 gun.”

Also, go look at the welds on "real HKs". They're not exactly cosmetically perfect.

But you should still buy the HK. Because the clones lack the teutonic elven magic.
Link Posted: 7/30/2022 5:55:12 AM EST
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Originally Posted By smullen:
In on this too.  I know I want one, it just making the funds available and committing them too it.

I mean it looks like 1600-1900 for the gun,

Then a 12-20 mags.

a RDS of some sort.

A stock, 200 Tax Stamp.

Probably a different front rail, hand guard, furniture or whatever you want to call it.

What else???

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Might as well go all in and get a BFS-III trigger pack too
Doooooo EEeeeeet !
Link Posted: 7/30/2022 5:55:39 AM EST
[#50]
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Originally Posted By smullen:
In on this too.  I know I want one, it just making the funds available and committing them too it.

I mean it looks like 1600-1900 for the gun,

Then a 12-20 mags.

a RDS of some sort.

A stock, 200 Tax Stamp.

Probably a different front rail, hand guard, furniture or whatever you want to call it.

What else???

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A supressor.

And a second gun.
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