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Posted: 1/21/2019 9:58:31 PM EDT
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If it's impossible, how did we ever get a Democratic Republic in the first place? Get You Head Out Of YOUR ASS. |
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Posted: 1/21/2019 9:59:26 PM EDT
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balkanization. There is a significant minority of us (and unfortunately, with the demographic trends that are in place we ARE a minority, but not a small one) that will not be part of the plan for "urban/progressive America." We would be outcasts at the best, and downright criminals at the worst, in that new culture, be it as it may. If ECONOMIC PRESSURES are applied that minority group in an attempt to make they comply (or extract wealth from them to support the others), then it would be the makings of a revolution, be it "hot" or "cold" When a large minority won't go be accepted (and are economically punished) by the new majority, that bodes badly for a unified country as we have had since the Civil War in the 1860's. I don't see a cleanly defined schism like what happened in the 1860's, but Balkanization is very possible.... 
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Posted: 1/21/2019 10:00:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:Very tough situation. I'm not sure any tribal allegiance is "owed to the state" anywhere but Texas. Tribe lines follow churches, races, families, or military branches in other places more than state. The American culture seems to me to be very mobile. I followed the money to the place on the planet that I could get paid the most for what I do. That's what my father and mother did starting in the late 1950s ... dragging me and my brothers across America from end-to-end. It's gonna be very hard to paint red or blue when 45 out of 50 states are more purple or shades +/- 3%. If it sparks it's going to be ugly. Taiping Rebellion ugly. 
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Posted: 1/21/2019 10:00:48 PM EDT
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I would just like to go back to 1912 and ask the politicians wtf they were thinking to introduce the 17th Amendment.
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Posted: 1/21/2019 10:02:33 PM EDT
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Wtf is with all the “hey guys the sky is blue and water is wet... change my mind” threads?? You spout shit that most agree with on some level and want them to argue the opposite point??
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Posted: 1/21/2019 10:05:33 PM EDT
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youre right. The demoncrats are steamrolling. The republican are just, I don’t know anymore
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Posted: 1/21/2019 10:06:43 PM EDT
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I figured out a couple of years ago that short of something profound happening, we are fucked and there isn't a damn thing that arguing, protesting or voting is gonna do to change that.
Idiocracy is well under way, just sit back and enjoy the ride. |
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Posted: 1/21/2019 10:07:44 PM EDT
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Nothing. Blend in, and wait for the shooting to start.
If it gets too sketchy we'll head to Mexico or BVIs. |
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Posted: 1/21/2019 10:08:46 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/21/2019 10:09:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Didn't we just have a thread about how "Hispanics" are trending much more heavily towards Trump than the MSM predicted? ALL IS LOST!!! is bullshit. You fight until you die.  Failed To Load Title |
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Posted: 1/21/2019 10:10:52 PM EDT
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Nothing. Blend in, and wait for the shooting to start. If it gets too sketchy we'll head to Mexico or BVIs. I can speak a couple languages fluently, so I can blend in 
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Posted: 1/21/2019 10:11:28 PM EDT
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I think this latest BS with the schoolkids will be instructive.
If behavior starts changing because of lawsuits, we might have a chance. If it doesn't - and do note so far that some in the media are doubling down even with video available every which way from Sunday - then voting won't change shit, because their behavior is reaching a point where you can't live with them in a civil society. The thing that I think makes eventual victory likely is that the left is fundamentally incapable of winning. Even if they get a big tactical win, in the long run they'll shoot themselves in the dick because third world BS isn't going to fly in a first world nation of 300 million people. The question is, will they drag the rest of us down with them before destroying themselves. |
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Posted: 1/21/2019 10:14:51 PM EDT
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The problem is "voting" will not be on our side (numbers wise).
It's simple math, and the left has won. Replace conservatives by importing more leftists. Allow (and fund) the non working/leftist crowd to outbreed conservatives. Insure the left controls education of those newborns. Control the media so conservatism cannot rise again. They've done all the above. Now they're just waiting for us few conservatives to die off already, so they can go full bore socialist (even then, they're impatient). We've only won a temporary speed bump to their plan. THEY have (easily) won the long (and not even remotely long) game. Unless we quickly reverse ALL of the above... it's over. |
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Posted: 1/21/2019 10:17:47 PM EDT
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They own the public education system.
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Posted: 1/21/2019 10:18:14 PM EDT
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I'm adding this video again, saw it in another thread.
Can anyone dispute the content? Basically confirming my OP Failed To Load Title |
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Posted: 1/21/2019 10:18:14 PM EDT
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Hoping someone could truly convince me that a am wrong. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Wtf is with all the “hey guys the sky is blue and water is wet... change my mind” threads?? You spout shit that most agree with on some level and want them to argue the opposite point?? |
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Posted: 1/21/2019 10:20:13 PM EDT
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The libs are always crying about overpopulation of mother earth, but for some reason none of them volunteer to be a team player and be a part of the solution, by offering themselves to lower the population.
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Posted: 1/21/2019 10:30:47 PM EDT
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The things we need for our country to survive:
1) Voting rights for property owners only (or perhaps for those who pay at least "X" amount in federal taxes per year). If you don't have a stake and pay taxes on that property in the US, you don't get to help decide what happens to it. Active military excluded. 2) Voting rights waived for a period of 7 years after receiving any sort of government handouts (service connected veterans excluded). You don't get to vote yourself tax payer money. The rest will sort itself out in time, when you don't have a significant percentage of the population voting themselves free shit with no incentive to improve their situation. |
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Posted: 1/21/2019 10:33:30 PM EDT
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The things we need for our country to survive: 1) Voting rights for property owners only (or perhaps for those who pay at least "X" amount in federal taxes per year). If you don't have a stake and pay taxes on that property in the US, you don't get to help decide what happens to it. Active military excluded. 2) Voting rights waived for a period of 7 years after receiving any sort of government handouts (service connected veterans excluded). You don't get to vote yourself tax payer money. The rest will sort itself out in time, when you don't have a significant percentage of the population voting themselves free shit with no incentive to improve their situation. |
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Posted: 1/21/2019 10:37:56 PM EDT
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RWDS
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Posted: 1/21/2019 10:38:54 PM EDT
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It would most likely be certain states that are booted out of the Union if Constitutionalists were the victors. The states that were Constitutionalist-run would be returned to a condition in which liberals couldn't bear and they would hopefully migrate to their utopia. The entitlements would be gone, free speech embraced, and the second amendment would be secured. You'd see 99% of liberals hit the road after some personal responsibility became common place. As an added fail safe, there would need to be a serious discussion about the balance of representation in the republic. For instance, cities would have a significantly reduced power since they have proven to be a concentration of people who choose to vote themselves bread and circus. It is not right that such a small geographical area dictates the will of the entire state. Finally, we would need to clarify a few things. It would have to be undeniable that the bill of rights are exactly that. More of a reenforcement with defined punishments for any politicians acting in treason against the people. It would be clear that we are not a democracy, and that we are a republic. Any way, the list goes on. |
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Posted: 1/21/2019 10:42:48 PM EDT
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If you take a real good look at Democrat party strongholds, it's basically every major city. Once shit goes down it doesn't look good for people who live in those cities due to the number of resources it takes to maintain them and the utter chaos that will happen when EBT doesn't matter anymore. It sounds shitty, but honestly, half the population would starve in a matter of 3-6 months of a complete CW border to border. Less time in some areas during winter. In areas with strongholds and forces able to keep arteries of traffic and commerce going, or operational ports and humanitarian assistance, they could hold out a lot longer. In the long run, geographic differences and current population differences would kick in. The west with long stretches between major metropolitan areas would probably fall into the conservative side. The east coast would be a lot uglier and probably maintain liberal rule. |
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Posted: 1/21/2019 10:44:24 PM EDT
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Gerrymandering needs to go. Since the internet has become so ubiquitous and therefore communication across long distances is nearly instantaneous, perhaps expanding Congress to one representative per county (of course you would have to legally freeze the current number, 3142, and boundaries of the current counties), and adjusting the Electoral College to 1 EC vote per county... Repeal the 17th Amend... It would be a looooooong time before a socialist would occupy 1600 Pennsylvania Ave NW, or a socialist majority would come to power in the House or the Senate. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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It would most likely be certain states that are booted out of the Union if Constitutionalists were the victors. The states that were Constitutionalist-run would be returned to a condition in which liberals couldn't bear and they would hopefully migrate to their utopia. The entitlements would be gone, free speech embraced, and the second amendment would be secured. You'd see 99% of liberals hit the road after some personal responsibility became common place. As an added fail safe, there would need to be a serious discussion about the balance of representation in the republic. For instance, cities would have a significantly reduced power since they have proven to be a concentration of people who choose to vote themselves bread and circus. It is not right that such a small geographical area dictates the will of the entire state. Finally, we would need to clarify a few things. It would have to be undeniable that the bill of rights are exactly that. More of a reenforcement with defined punishments for any politicians acting in treason against the people. It would be clear that we are not a democracy, and that we are a republic. Any way, the list goes on.
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Posted: 1/21/2019 10:44:41 PM EDT
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True conservatism is dead. We are fooked no matter what.
 
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Posted: 1/21/2019 11:17:43 PM EDT
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Texit
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Posted: 1/21/2019 11:27:46 PM EDT
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When we win the civil war.... Deport all illegals Ban all forms of communism, marxism, socialism etc Legalize all ccw Abolish NFA Legalize everything for maximum freedom Gut the federal government and programs |
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Posted: 1/21/2019 11:28:25 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/21/2019 11:33:49 PM EDT
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IF conservative forces won, the only way to ensure it stays that way is limiting the franchise so welfare dole recipients cannot vote themselves more money from the public treasury and adding in stricter limits on federal power via constitutional amendments to the commerce clause and general welfare clause. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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No way that we can vote our way out of the coming leftist take over. Demographics are changing and it is just a matter of time before they have full control of the government. Lots of folks like to talk about civil war but even that is not going to change anything if you plan to have a democracy after it is all over. Say there was a civil war and conservative forces won. Now what? still the same demographics. They will just vote themselves back in power. So short of somehow eliminating about half the population of the country, what can be done prevent the coming leftist take over/socialism/communism/burn it to the groundism? Folks that know a lot more about all this than me, please convince me that there is some realistic way to avoid what is coming. I'm not really a doom and gloom sort of person but I just can't come up with an alternative future for our country. Change my mind. |
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Posted: 1/21/2019 11:36:47 PM EDT
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We will be fine. People were spouting the same talking points in the early 90s. Now we have MAGA It is not fine, and he is absolutely right. They are going to get complete control due to demographics, and it won't be shifting back. |
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Posted: 1/21/2019 11:40:25 PM EDT
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Lazy conservative pieces of shit don't have any real civic participation between the ages of 19 and 65, and wonder why they lose to a group that volunteers their time from cradle to grave.
What a stupid way to piss away America. |
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Posted: 1/21/2019 11:41:16 PM EDT
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The divide is about half and half it’s this or war. |
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Posted: 1/21/2019 11:58:39 PM EDT
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Forget the U.S. to Mexico wall, let's build a wall and keep the libtards on their own side. I would support a wall around Idaho, Montana and woyoming |
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Posted: 1/22/2019 12:06:10 AM EDT
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When we win the civil war.... Deport all illegals Ban all forms of communism, marxism, socialism etc Legalize all ccw Abolish NFA Legalize everything for maximum freedom Gut the federal government and programs There's no way to change the future. And the future is going to suck. |
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Posted: 1/22/2019 12:07:47 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yup But the reality is nothing will happen to stop it. We’ll all just sit around surfing this site bitching about it and talking about the good old days. |
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Posted: 1/22/2019 12:14:22 AM EDT
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Leftists use the arguments of "reasonableness" and "fairness" to win people over and the younger snowflake generation that grew up with participation trophies are falling for it.
It is only fair that if YOU have $100 and I have $25 that you should give me another $25 so that our "gap" is less. Look, I don't want all of your money. It's only fair that everyone should make a living wage at every job. It is only reasonable that we should believe every woman who accuses a man of rape. After all why would she lie? It's only reasonable that you keep all of your guns locked up 24/7. After all do you want to children murdered. |
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Posted: 1/22/2019 12:27:50 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Makes sense coming from someone in CO still. From what I hear your state is being invaded like the rest of us. Have you started eradicating the vermin yet? |
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Posted: 1/22/2019 12:45:55 AM EDT
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The demographics of democratic party are declining. Very few are having children and they keep on aborting their own kind. This is the reason they need illegal immigration and they try to indoctrinate new members in our public schools.
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Posted: 1/22/2019 12:48:55 AM EDT
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The way things are going I may end up immigrating to Poland before my life is over. Why Poland?
Well, they have their act together and they're people who look like me and think like me and work hard and appreciate the value of a zloty. Their gun laws aren't very good but what country can I expect WILL, then? Probably none I'd want to live in, for other reasons.
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Posted: 1/22/2019 12:58:46 AM EDT
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OP is right. We are fucked.
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Posted: 1/22/2019 1:16:30 AM EDT
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Opni down we go
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Posted: 1/22/2019 1:30:20 AM EDT
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I will have a coke.  Your mask is slipping @2minkey |
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Posted: 1/22/2019 1:35:09 AM EDT
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In the final analysis, you must do what you believe is right, or you become one of them. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I will have a coke. |
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Posted: 1/22/2019 1:36:36 AM EDT
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Texit |
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Posted: 1/22/2019 1:38:08 AM EDT
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The way things are going I may end up immigrating to Poland before my life is over. Why Poland? Well, they have their act together and they're people who look like me and think like me and work hard and appreciate the value of a zloty. Their gun laws aren't very good but what country can I expect WILL, then? Probably none I'd want to live in, for other reasons. |
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Posted: 1/22/2019 1:56:53 AM EDT
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Sorry guy, but it’s been happening for too long. Can’t stop it, just hope to slow it down. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Wtf is with all the “hey guys the sky is blue and water is wet... change my mind” threads?? You spout shit that most agree with on some level and want them to argue the opposite point?? Our best hope is in the MVS and hateful and violent in stinks of the left and all of these people they have brought into America to replace us and they’re in ability to be patient |
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Posted: 1/22/2019 1:57:57 AM EDT
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Gerrymandering needs to go. Since the internet has become so ubiquitous and therefore communication across long distances is nearly instantaneous, perhaps expanding Congress to one representative per county (of course you would have to legally freeze the current number, 3142, and boundaries of the current counties), and adjusting the Electoral College to 1 EC vote per county... Repeal the 17th Amend... It would be a looooooong time before a socialist would occupy 1600 Pennsylvania Ave NW, or a socialist majority would come to power in the House or the Senate. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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It would most likely be certain states that are booted out of the Union if Constitutionalists were the victors. The states that were Constitutionalist-run would be returned to a condition in which liberals couldn't bear and they would hopefully migrate to their utopia. The entitlements would be gone, free speech embraced, and the second amendment would be secured. You'd see 99% of liberals hit the road after some personal responsibility became common place. As an added fail safe, there would need to be a serious discussion about the balance of representation in the republic. For instance, cities would have a significantly reduced power since they have proven to be a concentration of people who choose to vote themselves bread and circus. It is not right that such a small geographical area dictates the will of the entire state. Finally, we would need to clarify a few things. It would have to be undeniable that the bill of rights are exactly that. More of a reenforcement with defined punishments for any politicians acting in treason against the people. It would be clear that we are not a democracy, and that we are a republic. Any way, the list goes on. |
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Posted: 1/22/2019 1:59:45 AM EDT
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Texit 
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Posted: 1/22/2019 2:03:13 AM EDT
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Posted: 1/22/2019 2:09:04 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryJesus.
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Posted: 1/22/2019 2:09:16 AM EDT
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No, they won't vote themselves back into power, they'll be claiming refugee status in Canada just like many did after the War for Independence.
If we just rollover like they want, you're right, we can't save our country. One thing for sure, as long as we let these wackos run our public schools, colleges and universities we are doomed. Fight back by not sending your kids to these Leftist incubators. Why on earth would you pay a university $30-50,000 a year to brainwash your kid into being good little Socialists? Start with not letting leftist businesses to blackmail you. Search for alternatives. Fight with your money, voice, and time, not just your vote. |
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