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Posted: 1/16/2021 12:21:58 PM EDT
Failed To Load Title News article A girl at work has been in quarantine because her parents tested positive. Shes been negative for 2 weeks (2 tests), and tested positive on the 15th day. Elon Musk produced 2 negative and 2 positive tests on the same day. The testing is 100% worthless. edit: this is a rapid test, not a PCR test. |
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Are these the tests that "grow" the sample through millions or billions of replication cycles until there's enough for a positive hit?
It's like taking a swap from your arm, picking up one single spore of MRSA then letting it grow in a petr-dish until there's enough for a massive deadly infection. |
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Testing accuracy will improve significantly after the pedo joe admin rolls into town.
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We have a mechanic who works for us who tested positive via PCR testing for 10 or 12 weeks... asymptomatic the entire time, no fever not even a sniffle.
He finally had to get his doctor and a specialist involved before HR would allow him to come back to work. |
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I get tested 3 times a week at work. Still no positives....yet
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when you can test positive in one nostril and negative in the other...those test are probably not entirely accurate?
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In the old days politicians just kissed babies...now they sniff 'em too?
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Ever wonder why asymptomatic people don’t spread the virus?...
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So Kiwis cause China virus?
Got it. Don't really like them much anyway. |
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[#15]
1 positive out of 3 tests is about right.
Doesn't make it it a sham. If you feel fine and are just getting tested for funsies than its a waste. |
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First of all that is a "rapid test" not a PCR test. Major difference.
Second that is NOT I REPEAT NOT a sterile environment. See the two figures without masks behind the person doing the "test?" Any experiment conducted under such circumstance is retarded as the area WOULD be contaminated. But carry on with your ignorance. |
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Quoted: First of all that is a "rapid test" not a PCR test. Major difference. Second that is NOT I REPEAT NOT a sterile environment. See the two figures without masks behind the person doing the "test?" Any experiment conducted under such circumstance is retarded as the area WOULD be contaminated. But carry on with your ignorance. View Quote Oh yeah, well, "global warming!" Why do you hate God? |
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Quoted: Right, they don't want to be short staffed. Everyone tests negative except the ones they want gone. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: I get tested 3 times a week at work. Still no positives....yet Right, they don't want to be short staffed. Everyone tests negative except the ones they want gone. Well, if I do test positive I get a two-week paid vacation. So maybe I’ll get lucky one of these days. |
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Quoted: First of all that is a "rapid test" not a PCR test. Major difference. Second that is NOT I REPEAT NOT a sterile environment. See the two figures without masks behind the person doing the "test?" Any experiment conducted under such circumstance is retarded as the area WOULD be contaminated. But carry on with your ignorance. View Quote Swabbing people through the window of their automobile was a sterile environment correct? |
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Quoted: First of all that is a "rapid test" not a PCR test. Major difference. Second that is NOT I REPEAT NOT a sterile environment. See the two figures without masks behind the person doing the "test?" Any experiment conducted under such circumstance is retarded as the area WOULD be contaminated. But carry on with your ignorance. View Quote What an amazingly sensitive test that it's able to pick up the virus from people several feet away in the few seconds it's in the open air. |
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Quoted: Figured as such I’m an ER physician and never tested View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I get tested 3 times a week at work. Still no positives....yet @proto3 What you do? I work on tv shows and movies Figured as such I’m an ER physician and never tested My mom is a nurse and said they’ll only test them if they have symptoms. |
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Quoted: Why bother anymore? Seriously. There's no more debating in todays world of deceit. People lining up for Covid vaccines might as well just join BLM, support Biden and sell their guns while they're at it because it's all tied together. https://i.imgur.com/9HDdBwl.jpg" target="_blank">https://i.imgur.com/9HDdBwl.jpg View Quote It's impossible to "debate" when people have created an artificial reality around them. In the real world, the problem with false positives on this type of test is well documented. No obscure "news" site needed. https://www.fda.gov/medical-devices/letters-health-care-providers/potential-false-positive-results-antigen-tests-rapid-detection-sars-cov-2-letter-clinical-laboratory |
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Quoted: Why bother anymore? Seriously. There's no more debating in todays world of deceit. People lining up for Covid vaccines might as well just join BLM, support Biden and sell their guns while they're at it because it's all tied together. https://i.imgur.com/9HDdBwl.jpg" target="_blank">https://i.imgur.com/9HDdBwl.jpg View Quote The only particularly interesting piece is how the numbers shake out. The rate if real incidence is lower than reported, which would make actual fatality rate higher. Except the cause of death due to covid is also lower than reported. End result is we havr no idea because it's all bullshit. |
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Quoted: The only particularly interesting piece is how the numbers shake out. The rate if real incidence is lower than reported, which would make actual fatality rate higher. Except the cause of death due to covid is also lower than reported. End result is we havr no idea because it's all bullshit. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Why bother anymore? Seriously. There's no more debating in todays world of deceit. People lining up for Covid vaccines might as well just join BLM, support Biden and sell their guns while they're at it because it's all tied together. https://i.imgur.com/9HDdBwl.jpg" target="_blank">https://i.imgur.com/9HDdBwl.jpg The only particularly interesting piece is how the numbers shake out. The rate if real incidence is lower than reported, which would make actual fatality rate higher. Except the cause of death due to covid is also lower than reported. End result is we havr no idea because it's all bullshit. These are teats fielded in a hurry under emergency conditions with emergency use authorizations and waiver after waiver for how things normally work. Perfect is the enemy of good enough. For some reason, people love to deliberately manipulate the facts to spin their wild conspiracies. The comment section from the linked video in the OP says a lot. |
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Could a pcr test pick up a different coronavirus? Like a common cold?
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Quoted: These are teats fielded in a hurry under emergency conditions with emergency use authorizations and waiver after waiver for how things normally work. Perfect is the enemy of good enough. For some reason, people love to deliberately manipulate the facts to spin their wild conspiracies. The comment section from the linked video in the OP says a lot. View Quote What is the false positive and false negative rate that we call these "good enough"? |
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Quoted: Could a pcr test pick up a different coronavirus? Like a common cold? View Quote That's not a PCR test. It appears to be an antigen test. There is a deliberate campaign in the derposphere to confuse, conflate, and disorient the public. Not hard to do when so much of the public actively seeks out misinformation and deception. |
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Quoted: What is the false positive and false negative rate that we call these "good enough"? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: These are teats fielded in a hurry under emergency conditions with emergency use authorizations and waiver after waiver for how things normally work. Perfect is the enemy of good enough. For some reason, people love to deliberately manipulate the facts to spin their wild conspiracies. The comment section from the linked video in the OP says a lot. What is the false positive and false negative rate that we call these "good enough"? It varies. That's part of the problem with those tests. It's not like they underwent clinical testing for years before fielding and were accompanied with well-established answers to your question. |
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Quoted: First of all that is a "rapid test" not a PCR test. Major difference. Second that is NOT I REPEAT NOT a sterile environment. See the two figures without masks behind the person doing the "test?" Any experiment conducted under such circumstance is retarded as the area WOULD be contaminated. But carry on with your ignorance. View Quote Honest mistake, I thought it was the PCR test. Edited OP. |
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Quoted: It's impossible to "debate" when people have created an artificial reality around them. In the real world, the problem with false positives on this type of test is well documented. No obscure "news" site needed. https://www.fda.gov/medical-devices/letters-health-care-providers/potential-false-positive-results-antigen-tests-rapid-detection-sars-cov-2-letter-clinical-laboratory View Quote Yesterday I was accused of being mean to anti-vaxxers and being a pro-pharma shill. I just think its interesting that a fucking Kiwi tested positive. All sorts of shit out there about goats, icecream, etc also testing positive. It takes all kinds, I guess. |
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Quoted: It varies. That's part of the problem with those tests. It's not like they underwent clinical testing for years before fielding and were accompanied with well-established answers to your question. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: These are teats fielded in a hurry under emergency conditions with emergency use authorizations and waiver after waiver for how things normally work. Perfect is the enemy of good enough. For some reason, people love to deliberately manipulate the facts to spin their wild conspiracies. The comment section from the linked video in the OP says a lot. What is the false positive and false negative rate that we call these "good enough"? It varies. That's part of the problem with those tests. It's not like they underwent clinical testing for years before fielding and were accompanied with well-established answers to your question. It varies between what numbers? |
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Quoted: Yesterday I was accused of being mean to anti-vaxxers and being a pro-pharma shill. I just think its interesting that a fucking Kiwi tested positive. All sorts of shit out there about goats, icecream, etc also testing positive. It takes all kinds, I guess. View Quote It must be the same companies that make field drug tests who got into the COVID game. |
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Quoted: It's impossible to "debate" when people have created an artificial reality around them. In the real world, the problem with false positives on this type of test is well documented. No obscure "news" site needed. https://www.fda.gov/medical-devices/letters-health-care-providers/potential-false-positive-results-antigen-tests-rapid-detection-sars-cov-2-letter-clinical-laboratory View Quote People can post data, graphs, charts or articles from 20 different sources, I don't fucking care. Well documented means a pile of steaming shit. By who? How? When? No way to determine what the fuck well documented means anymore. You really have no fucking idea. Most just use the data that supports their beliefs system. Real world. Haha. What does that mean in 2021? |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: These are teats fielded in a hurry under emergency conditions with emergency use authorizations and waiver after waiver for how things normally work. Perfect is the enemy of good enough. For some reason, people love to deliberately manipulate the facts to spin their wild conspiracies. The comment section from the linked video in the OP says a lot. What is the false positive and false negative rate that we call these "good enough"? It varies. That's part of the problem with those tests. It's not like they underwent clinical testing for years before fielding and were accompanied with well-established answers to your question. It varies between what numbers? I doubt anyone knows at this time. The info comes in from the field, not a controlled testing environment. There are 13 antigen tests in use under emergency authorizations in the US alone. That video wasn't even in the US. Each test likely might have different data, if there were ever clinical testing done. |
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Quoted: These are teats fielded in a hurry under emergency conditions with emergency use authorizations and waiver after waiver for how things normally work. Perfect is the enemy of good enough. For some reason, people love to deliberately manipulate the facts to spin their wild conspiracies. The comment section from the linked video in the OP says a lot. View Quote The tests were made in a hurry and are "good enough." The vaccine was made in a hurry and is "good enough." What a crock of shit this whole thing is. |
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Quoted: I doubt anyone knows at this time. The info comes in from the field, not a controlled testing environment. There are 13 antigen tests in use under emergency authorizations in the US alone. That video wasn't even in the US. Each test likely might have different data, if there were ever clinical testing done. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: These are teats fielded in a hurry under emergency conditions with emergency use authorizations and waiver after waiver for how things normally work. Perfect is the enemy of good enough. For some reason, people love to deliberately manipulate the facts to spin their wild conspiracies. The comment section from the linked video in the OP says a lot. What is the false positive and false negative rate that we call these "good enough"? It varies. That's part of the problem with those tests. It's not like they underwent clinical testing for years before fielding and were accompanied with well-established answers to your question. It varies between what numbers? I doubt anyone knows at this time. The info comes in from the field, not a controlled testing environment. There are 13 antigen tests in use under emergency authorizations in the US alone. That video wasn't even in the US. Each test likely might have different data, if there were ever clinical testing done. So we don't know its actually effectiveness, but you know that it's "good enough". |
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Quoted: People can post data, graphs, charts or articles from 20 different sources, I don't fucking care. Well documented means a pile of steaming shit. By who? How? When? No way to determine what the fuck well documented means anymore. You really have no fucking idea. Most just use the data that supports their beliefs system. Real world. Haha. What does that mean in 2021? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: It's impossible to "debate" when people have created an artificial reality around them. In the real world, the problem with false positives on this type of test is well documented. No obscure "news" site needed. https://www.fda.gov/medical-devices/letters-health-care-providers/potential-false-positive-results-antigen-tests-rapid-detection-sars-cov-2-letter-clinical-laboratory People can post data, graphs, charts or articles from 20 different sources, I don't fucking care. Well documented means a pile of steaming shit. By who? How? When? No way to determine what the fuck well documented means anymore. You really have no fucking idea. Most just use the data that supports their beliefs system. Real world. Haha. What does that mean in 2021? It means that anyone paying attention would have known the issues with those antigen tests have been known for some time, and for anyone screaming about this being some secret, that FDA letter I linked from last week effectively captures the gist of the issue and the latest guidance to the field. Go ahead and seek out your information from "news" sites like "thisquality.com." I don't care, and I know I couldn't stop you if I did. |
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