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4/28/2023 2:47:59 PM EDT
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Injunction granted!


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There are so many cases going on it's hard to keep track.  Does this apply state wide or is it another one that only applies to named defendants?
4/28/2023 2:50:47 PM EDT
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Probably the named defendants. It would be all over the news otherwise.
4/28/2023 2:52:52 PM EDT
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News cycle is usually 8-12 hours behind Twitter
4/28/2023 2:56:43 PM EDT
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This is the case in Federal court in the Southern District of Illinois.

Full text of ruling on the injunction

https://drive.google.com/file/d/11j33qn--8I7JrsCs2mI0SZTjsWZ8Pc5V/view
4/28/2023 3:03:42 PM EDT
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4/28/2023 3:04:26 PM EDT
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Case No. 3:23-cv-00215-SPM is Gun Owners of America's case.
4/28/2023 3:05:14 PM EDT
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Good judge
4/28/2023 3:06:28 PM EDT
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Who funded the one that got the injunction?
4/28/2023 3:10:02 PM EDT
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This is the case in Federal court in the Southern District of Illinois.

Full text of ruling on the injunction

https://drive.google.com/file/d/11j33qn--8I7JrsCs2mI0SZTjsWZ8Pc5V/view
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Defendants are ENJOINED from enforcing Illinois
statutes 720 ILCS 5/24-1.9(b) and (c), and 720 ILCS 5/24-1.10, along with the PICA
amended provisions set forth in 735 ILCS 5/24-1(a), including subparagraphs (11),
(14), (15), and (16), statewide during the pendency of this litigation until the Court
can address the merits.
4/28/2023 3:10:53 PM EDT
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Wait…what?

Now I am confused.

I tried googling it and got this Fox News article from today:

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/federal-judge-declines-block-illinois-gun-law-calls-assault-rifles-particularly-dangerous.amp

That is judge Lindsay Jenkins .

4/28/2023 3:13:46 PM EDT
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Wait…what?

Now I am confused.

I tried googling it and got this Fox News article from today:

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/federal-judge-declines-block-illinois-gun-law-calls-assault-rifles-particularly-dangerous.amp

That is judge Lindsay Jenkins .

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There are multiple cases.

Stop following the news.

Get on Twitter and follower the lawyers and scholars actually putting in the work on these cases.
4/28/2023 3:17:37 PM EDT
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Who funded the one that got the injunction?
GOA's case was one thay got the injunction

4/28/2023 3:21:29 PM EDT
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Well…. It looks like I am joining the GOA then.

Besides, maybe they will actually do something about  the automated license plate readers getting positioned just outside of gun ranges here in the “down state” area.


4/28/2023 3:24:04 PM EDT
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Who funded the one that got the injunction?
GOA's case was one thay got the injunction



3:23-cv-00209 got the injunction. Which case is 00215 that you referred to as GOAs case earlier?
4/28/2023 3:24:41 PM EDT
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Wait…what?

Now I am confused.

I tried googling it and got this Fox News article from today:

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/federal-judge-declines-block-illinois-gun-law-calls-assault-rifles-particularly-dangerous.amp

That is judge Lindsay Jenkins .

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That was in the Northern District of IL with a liberal judge and they were making a much weaker case.

All the media were running with it claiming that denying the injunction proved that the law was constitutional.  Liberal logic.
4/28/2023 3:24:51 PM EDT
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There are multiple cases.

Stop following the news.

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I just woke up.  I worked a night shift last night.  That google drop box link wouldn’t cut  and paste correctly on my iphone.


I normally don’t do twitter.  But for something this big, I might make an exception.

4/28/2023 3:25:59 PM EDT
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I just woke up.  I worked a night shift last night.  That google drop box link wouldn’t cut  and paste correctly on my iphone.


I normally don’t do twitter.  But for something this big, I might make an exception.

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There are multiple cases.

Stop following the news.

Get on Twitter and follower the lawyers and scholars actually putting in the work on these cases.


I just woke up.  I worked a night shift last night.  That google drop box link wouldn’t cut  and paste correctly on my iphone.


I normally don’t do twitter.  But for something this big, I might make an exception.



It is, perhaps unfortunately, the best source for gun rights legal battles
4/28/2023 3:27:31 PM EDT
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I just woke up.  I worked a night shift last night.  That google drop box link wouldn’t cut  and paste correctly on my iphone.


I normally don’t do twitter.  But for something this big, I might make an exception.

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There are multiple cases.

Stop following the news.

Get on Twitter and follower the lawyers and scholars actually putting in the work on these cases.


I just woke up.  I worked a night shift last night.  That google drop box link wouldn’t cut  and paste correctly on my iphone.


I normally don’t do twitter.  But for something this big, I might make an exception.


There are so many cases happening it feels like a part time job trying to keep track of them.
4/28/2023 3:29:10 PM EDT
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That was in the Northern District of IL with a liberal judge and they were making a much weaker case.

All the media were running with it claiming that denying the injunction proved that the law was constitutional.  Liberal logic.
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I think forum member “swanhunter” came down here to the Federal courthouse in East St. Louis like 2 or 3 weeks ago for that case.  I want to say the judge’s name was something like McGlynn.  Swanhunter had a thread posted in the Illinois hometown forum.


4/28/2023 3:31:56 PM EDT
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3:23-cv-00209 got the injunction. Which case is 00215 that you referred to as GOAs case earlier?
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Who funded the one that got the injunction?
GOA's case was one thay got the injunction



3:23-cv-00209 got the injunction. Which case is 00215 that you referred to as GOAs case earlier?

3:23-cv-00209 was the lead case, other cases were bundled. The ruling applies to all the cases listed.

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4/28/2023 3:33:17 PM EDT
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Well…. It looks like I am joining the GOA then.

Besides, maybe they will actually do something about  the automated license plate readers getting positioned just outside of gun ranges here in the “down state” area.


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Well…. It looks like I am joining the GOA then.

Besides, maybe they will actually do something about  the automated license plate readers getting positioned just outside of gun ranges here in the “down state” area.




I think, and someone can correct me if I am wrong, this is actually a consolidated case of four different suits with lawyers and plaintiffs from ... basically everyone... that got consolidated into the GOA case, including state gun shops, the ISRA and the NRA and even some municipalities.

Not to diminish the GOA here, just clarifying that it was a big team effort.
4/28/2023 3:33:25 PM EDT
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Are they bulletproof?
4/28/2023 3:36:27 PM EDT
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I think, and someone can correct me if I am wrong, this is actually a consolidated case of four different suits with lawyers and plaintiffs from ... basically everyone... that got consolidated into the GOA case, ioncluding state gun shops, the ISRA and the NRA and even some municipalities.

Not to diminish the GOA here, just clarifying that it was a big team effort.
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Well . It looks like I am joining the GOA then.

Besides, maybe they will actually do something about  the automated license plate readers getting positioned just outside of gun ranges here in the "down state" area.




I think, and someone can correct me if I am wrong, this is actually a consolidated case of four different suits with lawyers and plaintiffs from ... basically everyone... that got consolidated into the GOA case, ioncluding state gun shops, the ISRA and the NRA and even some municipalities.

Not to diminish the GOA here, just clarifying that it was a big team effort.
Correct, a number of cases were filed and consolidated.
4/28/2023 3:38:11 PM EDT
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3:23-cv-00209 was the lead case, other cases were bundled. The ruling applies to all the cases listed.

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Case No. 3:23-cv-00215-SPM is Gun Owners of America's case.


Who funded the one that got the injunction?
GOA's case was one thay got the injunction



3:23-cv-00209 got the injunction. Which case is 00215 that you referred to as GOAs case earlier?

3:23-cv-00209 was the lead case, other cases were bundled. The ruling applies to all the cases listed.

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/122381/Screenshot_20230428_153123_Teams_jpg-2798807.JPG


yup, was watching John Crump livestream and he said that IL had all the cases combined so that they could try to get a "favorable judge" and only have to win "once" to quash all of them instead of having to bat 1.000 to win all cases.  but their attempt was bad luck because they caught a Trump judge when they tried judge shopping.
4/28/2023 3:38:53 PM EDT
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FWIW the Judge is a Trump appointed Judge.
4/28/2023 3:39:30 PM EDT
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yup, was watching John Crump livestream and he said that IL had all the cases combined so that they could try to get a "favorable judge" and only have to win "once" to quash all of them instead of having to bat 1.000 to win all cases.  but their attempt was bad luck because they caught a Trump judge when they tried judge shopping.
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Haha
4/28/2023 4:01:28 PM EDT
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I think, and someone can correct me if I am wrong, this is actually a consolidated case of four different suits with lawyers and plaintiffs from ... basically everyone... that got consolidated into the GOA case, including state gun shops, the ISRA and the NRA and even some municipalities.

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GOA, SAF, FPC all claiming credit on Twitter so far
4/28/2023 4:02:57 PM EDT
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NRA claiming credit?
4/28/2023 4:03:37 PM EDT
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Welll….they are a camera, soooo…

This is the “contraption”  I spotted a few weeks ago:

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See the house numbers there….6224

This is how close they are to the gun club’s driveway:

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That one pinged my NCIC on August 29th, 2022.  Another camera outside of the World Shooting Complex pinged my NCIC file on March 4, 2022.

I haven’t been back yet to look for that camera.

I have my own thread going on here in GD.

Soooo….I now return ya’ll to your regularly scheduled IL AWB thread.




4/28/2023 4:08:20 PM EDT
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Injunction granted!


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4/28/2023 4:11:39 PM EDT
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Fuck them.
4/28/2023 4:20:33 PM EDT
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Welll….they are a camera, soooo…

This is the “contraption”  I spotted a few weeks ago:

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/369122/2FC4FDA7-0927-4EB6-9E77-D7F13E6BE586_jpe-2798830.JPG

See the house numbers there….6224

This is how close they are to the gun club’s driveway:

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/369122/E9845C59-77A1-47EB-B7AE-89959960B1AB_jpe-2798838.JPG

That one pinged my NCIC on August 29th, 2022.  Another camera outside of the World Shooting Complex pinged my NCIC file on March 4, 2022.

I haven’t been back yet to look for that camera.

I have my own thread going on here in GD.

Soooo….I now return ya’ll to your regularly scheduled IL AWB thread.




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That can’t be, its against the law to keep a database.
4/28/2023 4:27:00 PM EDT
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Everyone was consolidated. Order applies to all the cases in the caption.

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ORDER granting 16 Motion for Preliminary Injunction. Although the Order specifically identifies the plaintiffs in the lead case of Barnett, et al. v. Raoul, et al., 23-cv-209-SPM, the caption also references the consolidated cases, i.e., Harrel, et al. v. Raoul, et al., 23-cv-141-SPM; Langley, et al. v. Kelly, et al., 23-cv-192-SPM; and, Federal Firearms Licensees of Illinois, et al. v. Pritzker, et al., 23-cv-215-SPM. Because the same analysis applies in these consolidated cases, the corresponding Motions for Preliminary Injunction are also be GRANTED. Signed by Judge Stephen P. McGlynn on 4/28/2023. (jce) (Entered: 04/28/2023)
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As a side note, the Illinois Department of Transportation (IDOT) bought up a whole bunch of Illinoisians’s cell phone location data , 2 years worth, in January 2019 (a year before covid).

https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2021/08/illinois-bought-invasive-phone-location-data-banned-broker-safegraph


I am sure ….100% positive that Illinois state would never use that data to track people to gun stores or gun ranges.

Pfftt….

Nope.  The .gov would not do anything nefarious with all that data.

4/28/2023 5:23:19 PM EDT
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State wide
4/28/2023 6:01:50 PM EDT
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https://www.gunssavelife.com/huge-win-injunction-issued-freedom-week-starts-now/

This page has the full injunction viewable in your browser.
4/28/2023 6:18:19 PM EDT
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McGlynn for Governor!!!
4/28/2023 6:23:27 PM EDT
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Unless you live in Crook County

Won't ship to me, but will ship to my FFL Down the street. Ah well.. shut up and take my money
4/28/2023 6:43:49 PM EDT
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Does this mean now that if i head over to St. Louis to Cabela’s and Bass Pro, they won’t ask me for my ID if I go to buy Pmags?

4/28/2023 6:54:03 PM EDT
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>have more than 1 address

> profit
4/28/2023 7:03:39 PM EDT
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HUGE 2A NEWS: Federal Court Declares Assault Weapon and Magazine bans to be UNCONSTITUTIONAL...
4/28/2023 7:14:46 PM EDT
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That is awesome news for Illinois  That's a huge blow to Illinois anti-gunners. Screw anti-gunners Let Freedom Ring!


Here he breaks it down piece by piece.

The judge also mentions pistol braces.. So cool!

BREAKING NEWS: Illinois Assault Weapon & Magazine Bans HALTED!! And Judge Mentions Pistol Braces!!!
4/28/2023 7:35:45 PM EDT
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Federal Judge issues Injunction Again Illinois Gun Ban
4/28/2023 7:55:10 PM EDT
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I have been meaning to join the GOA, I have put it on my weekend must-do list   They are knocking it out of the park lately and deserve our support.
4/28/2023 8:03:29 PM EDT
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They ask for your ID to buy mags? I may or may not have purchased some from Brownells storefront recently and they didn't ask.
4/28/2023 8:12:53 PM EDT
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Hmm good to know
4/28/2023 8:53:49 PM EDT
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Federal judge grants injunction temporarily blocking enforcement of Illinois gun law | Fox News

Gun Owners of America, a plaintiff in the case, said in a statement that the ruling should send a message to Pritzker.

"Governor Pritzker and his anti-gun cabal in the legislature thought they could steam roll the Second Amendment, and this ruling makes clear that they abused their authority and infringed on their citizens’ rights. We look forward to continuing this fight," GOA Senior Vice President Erich Pratt said.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/federal-judge-grants-injunction-temporarily-blocking-enforcement-illinois-gun-law
4/28/2023 8:56:27 PM EDT
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Hell yeah boi!!!!!

<-- Part of one of the lawsuits (well worth the $200) AND already a member of GOA.


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