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3/27/2023 7:54:03 PM EDT
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Somewhere I saw a similar rifle 'barrel shroud' clause with an exception for 'fore-ends that are an extension of the stock'.
I bet after copying the template some extremist decided them evil gun owners don't deserve any exceptions.
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Yes. Any semi auto rifle that has a foreend. I guess an AR7 or Marlin Papoose would be legal, they don't have handguards. Almost all shotguns are also illegal, as almost everything is threaded for choke tubes.

The actual text of the law is what happens when some clueless lobbyists and even more clueless democrat staffers cut and paste text from wherever into a law without understanding what most of it means. Makes them look like the idiots they are, but the poor citizens of that state are the ones who suffer.



Somewhere I saw a similar rifle 'barrel shroud' clause with an exception for 'fore-ends that are an extension of the stock'.
I bet after copying the template some extremist decided them evil gun owners don't deserve any exceptions.

Maybe from the proposed awb in Washington?
https://app.leg.wa.gov/billsummary?BillNumber=1240&Year=2023&Initiative=false

(iv) A semiautomatic, center fire rifle that has the capacity to
accept a detachable magazine and has one or more of the following:
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(I) A shroud that encircles either all or part of the barrel
designed to shield the bearer's hand from heat, except a solid
forearm of a stock that covers only the bottom of the barrel;
3/28/2023 5:29:04 AM EDT
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Did Illinois ban MOST semi-auto shotguns?
3/29/2023 12:40:40 PM EDT
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Thousands of gun owners could march to Illinois' capitol today

Thousands of gun owners could march to Illinois' capitol today
3/29/2023 5:30:01 PM EDT
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Gov. J.B. Pritzker gives message to Illinois gun owners rallying in Springfield

Gov. J.B. Pritzker gives message to Illinois gun owners rallying in Springfield


Gun owners rally, march and lobby Illinois state lawmakers in Springfield

Gun owners rally, march and lobby Illinois state lawmakers in Springfield
4/3/2023 7:07:57 AM EDT
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Illinois' Mag Ban Isn't What They Say It Is
4/4/2023 5:43:00 PM EDT
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BREAKING NEWS: Judge Finds Red Flag Law Unconstitutional...
4/5/2023 3:51:43 PM EDT
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Illinois' Shotgun Ban is Broader Then They Say It IS -- Mini shells
4/5/2023 4:04:40 PM EDT
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4/6/2023 8:15:16 AM EDT
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Pritzker says Illinois' gun ban 'just the beginning' with challenge in federal court next week

Pritzker says Illinois' gun ban 'just the beginning' with challenge in federal court next week
4/6/2023 10:33:47 AM EDT
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Pritzker says Illinois' gun ban 'just the beginning' with challenge in federal court next week

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Just the beginning? They banned basically everything already.

What's next? Revocation of a foid card for jaywalking? 2 rd magazine limits? Surgically implanted tracking device for gun owners?

Fuck that fatass with a rusty cactus.
4/6/2023 11:13:24 AM EDT
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Just the beginning? They banned basically everything already.

What's next? Revocation of a foid card for jaywalking? 2 rd magazine limits? Surgically implanted tracking device for gun owners?

Fuck that fatass with a rusty cactus.
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What happens after registration?
4/6/2023 11:46:49 AM EDT
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Loading us inside train cars?
4/6/2023 12:26:57 PM EDT
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Who would be dumb enough to register?
It's been 10 years since registration was required in CT post Sandy Hook.
The two extremely anti-gun Senators from that state; Murphy and Blumenthal, have claimed it as a success, yet I believe the NRA estimated that less than 15% of law-abiding folks have registered their stuff in that state.
How many criminals have registered their stuff in CT?  0%

Unfortunately, in recent years, since IL instituted their state dealer licensing scheme, they likely know what you have purchased in that time period.  Will they come after you if you don't register something in their records?  Who knows.
Someone will probably be a test case in a court of law.
4/6/2023 3:12:42 PM EDT
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Did Illinois Ban Sales of Remington 870s?
4/6/2023 3:20:01 PM EDT
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Who would be dumb enough to register?
It's been 10 years since registration was required in CT post Sandy Hook.
The two extremely anti-gun Senators from that state; Murphy and Blumenthal, have claimed it as a success, yet I believe the NRA estimated that less than 15% of law-abiding folks have registered their stuff in that state.
How many criminals have registered their stuff in CT?  0%

Unfortunately, in recent years, since IL instituted their state dealer licensing scheme, they likely know what you have purchased in that time period.  Will they come after you if you don't register something in their records?  Who knows.
Someone will probably be a test case in a court of law.
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What happens after registration?


Who would be dumb enough to register?
It's been 10 years since registration was required in CT post Sandy Hook.
The two extremely anti-gun Senators from that state; Murphy and Blumenthal, have claimed it as a success, yet I believe the NRA estimated that less than 15% of law-abiding folks have registered their stuff in that state.
How many criminals have registered their stuff in CT?  0%

Unfortunately, in recent years, since IL instituted their state dealer licensing scheme, they likely know what you have purchased in that time period.  Will they come after you if you don't register something in their records?  Who knows.
Someone will probably be a test case in a court of law.


Rumor here is that no one intends to register jack.
4/6/2023 5:35:21 PM EDT
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Who would be dumb enough to register?
It's been 10 years since registration was required in CT post Sandy Hook.
The two extremely anti-gun Senators from that state; Murphy and Blumenthal, have claimed it as a success, yet I believe the NRA estimated that less than 15% of law-abiding folks have registered their stuff in that state.
How many criminals have registered their stuff in CT?  0%

Unfortunately, in recent years, since IL instituted their state dealer licensing scheme, they likely know what you have purchased in that time period.  Will they come after you if you don't register something in their records?  Who knows.
Someone will probably be a test case in a court of law.
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It was a hypothetical that after registration comes confiscation hence was jelly bean was talking about.
4/6/2023 9:48:36 PM EDT
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Yes, I think that's what people are most concerned about; confiscation & that's why so many bought those 80% pistol and AR frames.  They don't know people have them.
4/8/2023 9:42:41 PM EDT
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When does this officially come into affect?
4/8/2023 10:09:14 PM EDT
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It went into effect on Jan. 11th of this year when it was signed. As to registering:

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4/12/2023 2:10:32 PM EDT
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Bishop on Air - "Your predictions on whether federal court issues injunction against Illinois' gun ban"


Your predictions on whether federal court issues injunction against Illinois' gun ban
4/12/2023 4:10:18 PM EDT
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Thanks for your updates.  
4/13/2023 5:48:26 AM EDT
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After federal judge hears challenge to IL's gun ban, plaintiffs confident law will be overturned
4/14/2023 1:13:19 PM EDT
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Nuance argued in both federal and state court over Illinois' gun and magazine ban

Nuance argued in both federal and state court over Illinois' gun and magazine ban
4/14/2023 2:26:37 PM EDT
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The state attorney called a flare gun a grenade launcher...
4/15/2023 7:17:15 PM EDT
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Quick recap on gun ban hearing
4/15/2023 10:00:59 PM EDT
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So, for the list of things you probably don't want a judge to say to you.


4/15/2023 10:48:13 PM EDT
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Don't think aloe vera will be enough for that one.
4/15/2023 11:01:41 PM EDT
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I grew up in Illinois. Got out of there in 1995. That place has gone down hill fast. I feel for those of you stuck in that God forsaken state.
4/15/2023 11:16:14 PM EDT
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That is one of the milder one the judge threw at the state. Some great ones in the transcripts
4/15/2023 11:37:47 PM EDT
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It's amazing how someone with even a minimal amount of knowledge about firearms can logically demolish a law like this.
4/16/2023 4:07:08 PM EDT
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Harrel v. Raoul plaintiff discusses challenge against Illinois' gun and magazine ban


Harrel v. Raoul plaintiff discusses challenge against Illinois' gun and magazine ban
4/16/2023 4:14:01 PM EDT
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You guys really need to make up your minds.....is it "move to a free state" or "my state is full"?
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I am cool with anyone truly pro 2a that won't vote for a democrat moving to Arizona.  Don't even care what your stances are on most other issues .

Will rally against any gun law?  Will never vote for a democrat?  You can move here.
4/17/2023 10:44:14 AM EDT
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I'm shocked.

"Illinois Supreme Court denies motion to recuse justices in gun ban case"

Illinois Supreme Court denies motion to recuse justices in gun ban case
4/17/2023 11:16:43 AM EDT
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What will they do next?

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1. Illinois will push through CA style bans on ammunition sales during the veto session at the end of the year. Sales of ammunition and components will have to go through an FFL. They will try to tax it at least 3%. They will try to ban certation kinds of ammunition because they more scary than others. They will try to restrict quantities of sales. They will add more red flag laws.

2. There will be additional legislation said to clarify existing laws similar to the "Fix the FOID" bs we have already seen. It will be a smoke screen to further violate citizens rights.

3. They will start floating microstamping and so called smart gun tech that doesn't work.

Pritzker at this point is predictable. He telegraphs his moves. He has shills park burner legislation in sub-committees. He waits until the Veto session at the end of the year. He has the shills amend the burner legislation to something completely different and pushes it through under peoples' noses during the end of the year veto session. Thanks to Trump he has a super majority.
4/17/2023 11:18:11 AM EDT
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I'm shocked.

"Illinois Supreme Court denies motion to recuse justices in gun ban case"

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It's full clown world  when a defendant in a case gave two of the seven judges hearing it a million dollars each and they won't recuse themselves.

I bet the legislature will pass a law to fix it, lol.

Oh wait, that's right, they have made it so they don't have to give a shit what their electorate thinks.

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4/17/2023 12:21:39 PM EDT
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There are those of us working hard behind enemy lines. I encourage fellow Illinoisans to reach out to their local 2A supporting State's Attorneys and let them know you support them. Let those that have taken no position know that you want them to do so. Let those who support this awful legislation know your displeasure.

More importantly, next year VOTE for those SAs who are committed to our rights. Don't wait until the general election. Support them in the primary. Vote against those that do not share your Constitutional values.

32 of 102 of Illinois counties' top LEOs stand in support of responsible firearms owners. Likely, others do as well, but are afraid to speak out.

Thank you for your time.







4/17/2023 5:06:32 PM EDT
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Dear Hillary Hipsters, Miley Millennials and Participation Trophy Panzies
4/20/2023 8:45:37 AM EDT
[#40]
Any new news for you guys?
4/20/2023 11:58:47 PM EDT
[#41]
Gun-Owning Federal Judge BLASTS Anti-Gun Illinois Lawyers AR Ban Case...
4/21/2023 4:02:48 AM EDT
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Update from a safe undisclosed location
4/26/2023 10:22:05 PM EDT
[#43]
Any updates
4/27/2023 11:16:11 AM EDT
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Nothing significant that I have heard, we have been waiting on the federal judge to rule on the TRO request since the hearing two weeks ago.
4/28/2023 1:13:03 PM EDT
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What will they do next?

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1. Illinois will push through CA style bans on ammunition sales during the veto session at the end of the year. Sales of ammunition and components will have to go through an FFL. They will try to tax it at least 3%. They will try to ban certation kinds of ammunition because they more scary than others. They will try to restrict quantities of sales. They will add more red flag laws.

2. There will be additional legislation said to clarify existing laws similar to the "Fix the FOID" bs we have already seen. It will be a smoke screen to further violate citizens rights.

3. They will start floating microstamping and so called smart gun tech that doesn't work.

Pritzker at this point is predictable. He telegraphs his moves. He has shills park burner legislation in sub-committees. He waits until the Veto session at the end of the year. He has the shills amend the burner legislation to something completely different and pushes it through under peoples' noses during the end of the year veto session. Thanks to Trump he has a super majority.
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I am so damn glad I got out of that state in 1993.
4/28/2023 2:17:11 PM EDT
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Southern district judge has not ruled yet I believe.

The one before Il Supremes is on hold.

The Naperville one was denied a tro and is moving up the chain on appeal.

Plus all the Chicago judges are Dems, so you will never get a good verdict out of there. So whatever is denied there will move up the appeal chain.
4/28/2023 2:36:41 PM EDT
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Injunction granted!
4/28/2023 2:43:36 PM EDT
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4/28/2023 2:45:01 PM EDT
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