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Posted: 1/24/2021 12:00:54 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/24/2021 12:05:09 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/24/2021 12:05:46 PM EDT
[#2]
Sweet.
I remember back in around 95 you could buy a Mig21 for 200k. |
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Posted: 1/24/2021 12:05:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Link and pic are broken. Florida Man 
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Posted: 1/24/2021 12:12:16 PM EDT
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Ah, 2 seater.
Makes a nice weekend toy but from everything I've heard... Kinda expensive to keep maintained.  - P U T - I T - I N - H - |
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Posted: 1/24/2021 12:13:35 PM EDT
[#5]
You must *think* in Russian.
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Posted: 1/24/2021 12:15:10 PM EDT
[#6]
How would someone with Citation jet experience handle learning to fly this?
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Posted: 1/24/2021 12:16:37 PM EDT
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So Microsoft Flight Simulator is adequate to show proficiency?
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Posted: 1/24/2021 12:17:13 PM EDT
[#8]
ill cover the 4 mil someone's gotta pick up the rest tho
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Posted: 1/24/2021 12:17:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Link and pic are broken. ETA not awful https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/231252/Screenshot_20210124-100817_Samsung_Inter-1794563.JPG Weird, the pic wont work but the link does 
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Posted: 1/24/2021 12:18:55 PM EDT
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Is that the same one that keeps getting sold every couple of years after owners figure out the true cost of Soviet maintenance in a free market economy?
I read an article about how one was bought as a personal jet by the CEO of an adversary air training company. Didn't have a radar, wouldn't work in adversary roles, was a pain to land at most civilian airports due to noise, etc. Wouldn't surprise me if he's selling it again, because nobody worth training against uses MiGs these days. |
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Posted: 1/24/2021 12:19:02 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/24/2021 12:20:27 PM EDT
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While the MiG-29 would be awesome to own as a private citizen where you don't have to worry about facing enemy fighter jets....
They are really crappy fighters. Their one strong point is their fast acceleration from take off. They lose on just about everything else. |
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Posted: 1/24/2021 12:23:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: While the MiG-29 would be awesome to own as a private citizen.... They are really crappy fighters. Their one strong point is their fast acceleration from take off. They lose on just about everything else. Looks pretty cool. But their combat record is not all that good. Even when going up against Su27s. |
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Posted: 1/24/2021 12:23:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Looks pretty cool. But their combat record is not all that good. Even when going up against Su27s. |
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Posted: 1/24/2021 12:25:49 PM EDT
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nah.... atleast when a BMP breaks down it can get towed
 
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Posted: 1/24/2021 12:26:53 PM EDT
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I remember reading Larry Ellison tried to buy one in the 90's but the ATF wouldn't let him.
He just bought an entire Hawaiian island instead. |
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Posted: 1/24/2021 12:27:15 PM EDT
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Meh. I'd rather buy a freighter full of Russian ammo right about now.
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Posted: 1/24/2021 12:28:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Do you plan on flying it in combat? Wasn't planning to, but the way things have been going... I suppose it would be less mortifying than going into battle in a light experimental aircraft armed with 6 M16s strung together like Rawles wrote about in Patriots. Now, where does one get still effective Soviet air to air weaponry? Croatian surplus? "This is the story of how one Shmoo took on the entire USAF in a surplus Mig29." |
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Posted: 1/24/2021 12:30:05 PM EDT
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Hey, @Mach , you drive it; I'll fix it.
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Posted: 1/24/2021 1:25:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Is that the same one that keeps getting sold every couple of years after owners figure out the true cost of Soviet maintenance in a free market economy? I read an article about how one was bought as a personal jet by the CEO of an adversary air training company. Didn't have a radar, wouldn't work in adversary roles, was a pain to land at most civilian airports due to noise, etc. Wouldn't surprise me if he's selling it again, because nobody worth training against uses MiGs these days. Nearly the entire fleet of surplus jets is for sale at any time. Very few are nearly affordable to own and operate. Magisters, Saitas, L-29`s, and maybe one or two others. I was wondering whether there are airworthy Vampires or Goblins flying a couple of days past. There were several through the 90`s. |
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Posted: 1/24/2021 1:28:00 PM EDT
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I hate to ask the practical question but what’s the maintenance like on thiis thing?
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Posted: 1/24/2021 1:32:51 PM EDT
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A friend of a friend down in South Louisiana has one. There 5 or 6 guys along the gulf coast that have them and they fly around. Looks like fun.
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Posted: 1/24/2021 1:35:31 PM EDT
[#23]
Let me see where I can park it in the driveway.
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Posted: 1/24/2021 1:36:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Nearly the entire fleet of surplus jets is for sale at any time. Very few are nearly affordable to own and operate. Magisters, Saitas, L-29`s, and maybe one or two others. I was wondering whether there are airworthy Vampires or Goblins flying a couple of days past. There were several through the 90`s. There is at least one Dehavilland Vampire still flying. I've seen it race at Reno. When they can get the thing off the ground. Suckers fast but its significantly less reliable than an L39. Makes for an interesting link between the WW2 piston engine Warbirds and the jet racers.  Attached FileNot a recent picture, it's been repainted black with Swiss livery since this was taken.  Attached File |
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Posted: 1/24/2021 1:38:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Looks pretty cool. But their combat record is not all that good. Even when going up against Su27s. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: While the MiG-29 would be awesome to own as a private citizen.... They are really crappy fighters. Their one strong point is their fast acceleration from take off. They lose on just about everything else. Looks pretty cool. But their combat record is not all that good. Even when going up against Su27s. Russian pilots flew against each other in the skies over Eritrea and Ethiopia in MiG-29s and Sukhoi 27s in the late 90s. That’s some Area 88-type mercenary stuff, right there. |
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Posted: 1/24/2021 1:46:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Russian pilots flew against each other in the skies over Eritrea and Ethiopia in MiG-29s and Sukhoi 27s in the late 90s. That’s some Area 88-type mercenary stuff, right there. Now that's something they could make a movie out of. Might not even be all that expensive. Even if they omitted CGI. But since all action movie protagonists are supposed to be female nowadays. And there's probably some very not politically correct aspects to the story it will probably never happen. The Toyota War between Libya and Chad would also make for an interesting story, I think. |
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Posted: 1/24/2021 1:48:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I hate to ask the practical question but what’s the maintenance like on thiis thing? I think the correct response to that question is "If you have to ask, you probably can't afford it."
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Posted: 1/24/2021 1:50:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: How would someone with Citation jet experience handle learning to fly this? Trial and error? |
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Posted: 1/24/2021 1:53:07 PM EDT
[#29]
I knew there was a reason I wanted to win the Mega Millions jackpot.
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Posted: 1/24/2021 1:54:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I think the correct response to that question is "If you have to ask, you probably can't afford it." Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I hate to ask the practical question but what’s the maintenance like on thiis thing? I think the correct response to that question is "If you have to ask, you probably can't afford it." ‘Maintenance-Hogski’ |
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Posted: 1/24/2021 1:56:31 PM EDT
[#31]
I know they're out of date, but I kinda always wanted a Foxbat (Mig-25).
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Posted: 1/24/2021 1:59:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: ‘Maintenance-Hogski’ I understand that at the end of the Cold War the Russians had kept most of their old aircraft and tanks in a fairly decent (at least by Russian standards) state of repair. Had the Cold War gone hot in the 80s. Even if the regular Russian military had been obliterated they would have had significant equipment reserves to fall back on. The image of F15 pilots facing a 'Zerg Rush' of Mig 17s with inexperienced pilots comes to mind. Of course after the Union fell all that hardware was just left to rust. Or obviously a lot of it wound up in various wars all over the third world. Not cheap to maintain most military grade equipment. |
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Posted: 1/24/2021 2:07:39 PM EDT
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Brownells needs to buy this. Next time some cockfags try to deplatform Arfrcom, the answer won't be Aimless waving paperwork
 
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Posted: 1/24/2021 2:12:41 PM EDT
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Can you even source parts for them resonably and reliably?
Best bet would be to steal a aircraft mechanic from their military and pay him a good salary to be your personal mechanic. I'm sure $100K a year would do it |
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Posted: 1/24/2021 2:15:37 PM EDT
[#35]
Would be lots of fun but I'd probably have to use the ejection seat to get back on the ground alive after my first flight in it.
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Posted: 1/24/2021 2:19:58 PM EDT
[#36]
It’s definitely sexy
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Posted: 1/24/2021 2:37:12 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/24/2021 3:03:55 PM EDT
[#38]
Eww. 2 seaters are the 4 door sedans of the jet world.
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Posted: 1/24/2021 3:07:27 PM EDT
[#39]
I could find away to get in trouble w/ that...
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Posted: 1/24/2021 3:30:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You must *think* in Russian. 38 years. I got that reference after 38 years. |
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Posted: 1/24/2021 3:31:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: 38 years. I got that reference after 38 years. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: You must *think* in Russian. 38 years. I got that reference after 38 years. I'm 38 and I got that reference... |
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Posted: 1/24/2021 3:34:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: How would someone with Citation jet experience handle learning to fly this? Let me guess you're not typed and someone you know let you sit right seat for a few hours... |
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Posted: 1/24/2021 5:34:13 PM EDT
[#43]
Sorta looks like it has thrust vectoring. Cool
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Posted: 1/24/2021 5:48:44 PM EDT
[#44]
Love that paint scheme
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Posted: 1/24/2021 5:54:34 PM EDT
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That jet looks well maintained at least. Love that camo.
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Posted: 1/24/2021 5:58:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Ah, 2 seater. Makes a nice weekend toy but from everything I've heard... Kinda expensive to keep maintained.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9HXT7fDkf9IAre you in that aussie's discord? |
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Posted: 1/24/2021 6:03:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Can you even source parts for them resonably and reliably? Best bet would be to steal a aircraft mechanic from their military and pay him a good salary to be your personal mechanic. I'm sure $100K a year would do it A local business owner here in SC did exactly that. He imported a MiG 19, if memory serves, as well as a pilot to train him and a maintainer. |
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Posted: 1/24/2021 6:04:12 PM EDT
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Just buy it and put it out by the pond beside the carousel.
 Attached FileThis was from a 7 million dollar home listing. Can anyone ID it? 17 maybe? |
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Posted: 1/24/2021 6:05:01 PM EDT
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I sat in a single-seat version here in CONUS. All the instrumentation was what looked like 1970s-era analogue.
Surely, the Russians have upgraded / digitalized / improved their fleet of MiG-29s but who knows? As far as maintenance costs, I've read that the Soviets fielded engines that were capable of fewer operating hours (compared to US jet engines) before needing to be sent off to depot for overhaul. For a private entity not supported by tax revenue, that would be expensive IOT maintain any sort of airworthiness. |
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Posted: 1/24/2021 6:07:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Just buy it and put it out by the pond beside the carousel. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/247941/Capture_JPG-1795143.JPG This was from a 7 million dollar home listing. Can anyone ID it? 17 maybe?  Looks like an F-84 to me. |
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