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Posted: 10/19/2019 12:33:20 AM EDT
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Sad day, Krpind was a good mod and definitely NOT a waste of site resources quite unlike another mod who shall remain nameless. |
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Posted: 10/19/2019 12:33:50 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I think underscores are like magnets, and if you have two of them they cancel each other out. Or something. I don't know. Science. |
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Posted: 10/19/2019 12:34:59 AM EDT
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No, they were not. This was caused long before you joined the site. It started around the 2008 election, when (some, not all) Ron Paul supporters thought it was cool to spam every fucking thread with their bullshit, and attack anyone who didn’t like Ron Paul. Don’t like Ron Paul? - you hate America. Don’t like Ron Paul? - you hate freedom. Etc. Eventually they had to be quarantined in one thread, so they didn’t troll all of GD and poison everything with their juvenile bullshit. Since then, there as clearly been more of an influx from the chans and other sites, with some people who just see arfcom as their personal trolling playground, here to shitpost and be edgy, and not really give a shit about the gun community or the 2nd amendment. Since then it has only gotten worse. So now, a few Never_Trumpers, and the occasional lefty are NOT the problem. We’ve always had a small number of people like that on the site, and it’s never been a problem that couldn’t be managed, What we have seen in the last few years are people who seem completely unable to “peacefully co-exist” with people who have different political views from themselves, and who often seem to believe that they should be allowed to personally attack anyone whose view they don’t like - and who then conclude that there’s a HUGE problem with the site because we have rules against personally attacking people, and that must mean we are communist, or hate freedom, or hate America, or whatever. Again, mods and Staff are very much to blame for this, because we didn’t get out in front of this as the tone of GD gradually changed, and by the time TBS volunteered to jump on the angry bull and try to calm it down a little, we had probably let it go a bit too far, and some people had come to expect that it was okay to just attack people for having unpopular opinions in GD. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Quoted: Something's causing the discord, not sure that a mass hiatus for a week or three addresses the problem. Besides, some of us have the bans & warnings of Damocles hanging over our heads. By the time I've had to think through if a post will piss some mod or staff off, the thread is already on to the next page, making my posts even more irrelevant than usual. Absent working off bans and warnings over time (like points on your driving record), this place will invariably wither. Clearer voices than mine have been, and will continue to be silenced, thanks to the equivalent of accumulating a bunch of burned out license plate light warnings and a 20+ over the speed limit lock or two. They had a pretty good run. Better than most. This was caused long before you joined the site. It started around the 2008 election, when (some, not all) Ron Paul supporters thought it was cool to spam every fucking thread with their bullshit, and attack anyone who didn’t like Ron Paul. Don’t like Ron Paul? - you hate America. Don’t like Ron Paul? - you hate freedom. Etc. Eventually they had to be quarantined in one thread, so they didn’t troll all of GD and poison everything with their juvenile bullshit. Since then, there as clearly been more of an influx from the chans and other sites, with some people who just see arfcom as their personal trolling playground, here to shitpost and be edgy, and not really give a shit about the gun community or the 2nd amendment. Since then it has only gotten worse. So now, a few Never_Trumpers, and the occasional lefty are NOT the problem. We’ve always had a small number of people like that on the site, and it’s never been a problem that couldn’t be managed, What we have seen in the last few years are people who seem completely unable to “peacefully co-exist” with people who have different political views from themselves, and who often seem to believe that they should be allowed to personally attack anyone whose view they don’t like - and who then conclude that there’s a HUGE problem with the site because we have rules against personally attacking people, and that must mean we are communist, or hate freedom, or hate America, or whatever. Again, mods and Staff are very much to blame for this, because we didn’t get out in front of this as the tone of GD gradually changed, and by the time TBS volunteered to jump on the angry bull and try to calm it down a little, we had probably let it go a bit too far, and some people had come to expect that it was okay to just attack people for having unpopular opinions in GD. But you are not at fault for the increased tensions on here between the lefties and the righties. That is beyond your control. If you try to make people tolerate stuff they hate, they will hate you for it. In 2000-2008 the mainstream left wasn't full communist(in Public). The times are changing. In the past two years you had people on here advocating for a coup based on a lie told by a guy into goat toddler porn that was protected from prosecution by the former director of the FBI. There Is no comparison to be made between them and the few 2minkey types, the Paulbots or even the Q people. That sort of thing some just won't tolerate, no matter how much you want them to. They shouldn't have to. Thus you got Sylvan cussing them because they deserved it. And as best as I can tell he is why we are here. Though the hardcore Q people were a mirror imagine in a lot of ways to the underscores, and they pissed some of the membership off just as much, at the end of the day, nothing they did effected reality or might lead to a civil war. Meh. My opinion is the novelty of razzing them, and they deserved everything they got, would have worn off in two months and everyone woulda been more or less fine. Nonwithstanding The fact that I think they were true believer SPLC brand feds (with signed Morris Dees dildos hung in the place of honor above their mantles) catfishing gun owners. |
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Posted: 10/19/2019 12:36:17 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I think underscores are like magnets, and if you have two of them they cancel each other out. Or something. I don't know. Science. 
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Posted: 10/19/2019 12:37:07 AM EDT
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I think underscores are like magnets, and if you have two of them they cancel each other out. Or something. I don't know. Science. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Quoted: Something's causing the discord, not sure that a mass hiatus for a week or three addresses the problem. Besides, some of us have the bans & warnings of Damocles hanging over our heads. By the time I've had to think through if a post will piss some mod or staff off, the thread is already on to the next page, making my posts even more irrelevant than usual. Absent working off bans and warnings over time (like points on your driving record), this place will invariably wither. Clearer voices than mine have been, and will continue to be silenced, thanks to the equivalent of accumulating a bunch of burned out license plate light warnings and a 20+ over the speed limit lock or two. They had a pretty good run. Better than most. 
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Posted: 10/19/2019 12:37:37 AM EDT
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6'3.5 230 lbs. I am a dork, but I ain't fat. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/333874/5BA9FB9C-A132-4E41-8818-C8FD8D849B92-537951.jpg 
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Posted: 10/19/2019 12:38:48 AM EDT
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Ok, who is going to screencap the posts in this thread so I can get some sleep and not miss anything if it gets nuked from orbit while I slumber?
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Posted: 10/19/2019 12:39:08 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I mean, don't get me wrong, that's a sexy outfit and all. But that trigger discipline is abhorrent. |
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Posted: 10/19/2019 12:39:51 AM EDT
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Ok, who is going to screencap the posts in this thread so I can get some sleep and not miss anything if it gets nuked from orbit while I slumber? 
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Posted: 10/19/2019 12:40:17 AM EDT
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That was all part of the joke at the moment. I never envisioned posting it on Arfcom. Yet here we are ... |
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Posted: 10/19/2019 12:40:21 AM EDT
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I have been saying this in a lot of threads lately. I can still subscribe to tech and EE.
I hardly miss the green arrow. 
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Posted: 10/19/2019 12:42:14 AM EDT
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He went from this: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/284225/Screen_Shot_2019-10-18_at_8_21_29_PM-1129110.png To this: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/284225/Screen_Shot_2019-10-18_at_8_21_51_PM-1129111.png As punishment for defending the right of innocent American citizens to speak out against being murdered in their own homes by overzealous law enforcement. Txl |
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Posted: 10/19/2019 12:42:37 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Oh, I figured. Just busting your balls. |
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Posted: 10/19/2019 12:45:56 AM EDT
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Mad respect Krpind. Glad you are on our team.
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Posted: 10/19/2019 12:51:20 AM EDT
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Lug1 you look almost exactly like a Clay Co MO sheriff I know.
He’s a badass, so that’s pretty cool lol 
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Posted: 10/19/2019 12:58:55 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: No, they were not. This was caused long before you joined the site. It started around the 2008 election, when (some, not all) Ron Paul supporters thought it was cool to spam every fucking thread with their bullshit, and attack anyone who didn't like Ron Paul. Don't like Ron Paul? - you hate America. Don't like Ron Paul? - you hate freedom. Etc. Eventually they had to be quarantined in one thread, so they didn't troll all of GD and poison everything with their juvenile bullshit. Since then, there as clearly been more of an influx from the chans and other sites, with some people who just see arfcom as their personal trolling playground, here to shitpost and be edgy, and not really give a shit about the gun community or the 2nd amendment. Since then it has only gotten worse. So now, a few Never_Trumpers, and the occasional lefty are NOT the problem. We've always had a small number of people like that on the site, and it's never been a problem that couldn't be managed, What we have seen in the last few years are people who seem completely unable to "peacefully co-exist" with people who have different political views from themselves, and who often seem to believe that they should be allowed to personally attack anyone whose view they don't like - and who then conclude that there's a HUGE problem with the site because we have rules against personally attacking people, and that must mean we are communist, or hate freedom, or hate America, or whatever. Again, mods and Staff are very much to blame for this, because we didn't get out in front of this as the tone of GD gradually changed, and by the time TBS volunteered to jump on the angry bull and try to calm it down a little, we had probably let it go a bit too far, and some people had come to expect that it was okay to just attack people for having unpopular opinions in GD. Anyway, I can't disagree with the rest. The constant bickering and shit posting has gotten to be a bit much at times. I mean that's fine in a beans/no beans thread or something but when breaking news threads or serious topics get derailed or locked because of it, then that's unacceptable IMO. The signal to noise ratio and all that. |
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Posted: 10/19/2019 1:05:42 AM EDT
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Ok, who is going to screencap the posts in this thread so I can get some sleep and not miss anything if it gets nuked from orbit while I slumber? |
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Posted: 10/19/2019 1:07:38 AM EDT
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Posted: 10/19/2019 1:08:24 AM EDT
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To krpind!
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Posted: 10/19/2019 1:12:42 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: No, they were not. This was caused long before you joined the site. It started around the 2008 election, when (some, not all) Ron Paul supporters thought it was cool to spam every fucking thread with their bullshit, and attack anyone who didn’t like Ron Paul. Don’t like Ron Paul? - you hate America. Don’t like Ron Paul? - you hate freedom. Etc. Eventually they had to be quarantined in one thread, so they didn’t troll all of GD and poison everything with their juvenile bullshit. Since then, there as clearly been more of an influx from the chans and other sites, with some people who just see arfcom as their personal trolling playground, here to shitpost and be edgy, and not really give a shit about the gun community or the 2nd amendment. Since then it has only gotten worse. So now, a few Never_Trumpers, and the occasional lefty are NOT the problem. We’ve always had a small number of people like that on the site, and it’s never been a problem that couldn’t be managed, What we have seen in the last few years are people who seem completely unable to “peacefully co-exist” with people who have different political views from themselves, and who often seem to believe that they should be allowed to personally attack anyone whose view they don’t like - and who then conclude that there’s a HUGE problem with the site because we have rules against personally attacking people, and that must mean we are communist, or hate freedom, or hate America, or whatever. Again, mods and Staff are very much to blame for this, because we didn’t get out in front of this as the tone of GD gradually changed, and by the time TBS volunteered to jump on the angry bull and try to calm it down a little, we had probably let it go a bit too far, and some people had come to expect that it was okay to just attack people for having unpopular opinions in GD. |
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Posted: 10/19/2019 1:13:20 AM EDT
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Hats off to integrity. Cheers.
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Posted: 10/19/2019 1:16:24 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: To krpind! But his viewpoints on cops murdering innocent civilians was not tolerable to someone with authority. Txl |
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Posted: 10/19/2019 1:17:02 AM EDT
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Hats off to integrity. Cheers. I burned two jobs doing the right thing instead of the company thing. Once while being on the fast track to VP and being asked (ordered actually) to shitcan an older engineer and replace him with a younger cheaper one. Refused. Got fired. Sued. Won. But the toll was significant. Word gets around when you're not a "team player" |
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Posted: 10/19/2019 1:21:53 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: He was a damn fine mod. But his viewpoints on cops murdering innocent civilians was not tolerable to someone with authority. Txl If this site wants to back LE that try to excuse her murder away, no wonder KRP left and TBQH, the site isn't worth saving. |
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Posted: 10/19/2019 1:31:54 AM EDT
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Anyone brushing off a woman being murdered in her own home should be kicked from mod/staff. If this site wants to back LE that try to excuse her murder away, no wonder KRP left and TBQH, the site isn't worth saving. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: He was a damn fine mod. But his viewpoints on cops murdering innocent civilians was not tolerable to someone with authority. Txl If this site wants to back LE that try to excuse her murder away, no wonder KRP left and TBQH, the site isn't worth saving. |
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Posted: 10/19/2019 1:34:27 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Anyone brushing off a woman being murdered in her own home should be kicked from mod/staff. If this site wants to back LE that try to excuse her murder away, no wonder KRP left and TBQH, the site isn't worth saving. Quote HistoryQuoted: Anyone brushing off a woman being murdered in her own home should be kicked from mod/staff. If this site wants to back LE that try to excuse her murder away, no wonder KRP left and TBQH, the site isn't worth saving. Quoted: I'm not willing to volunteer to help if what appears to be the official policy is to allow a certain segment of the membership to post in support of an accused murderer while at almost the exact same time saying "people are watching, we can't get too crazy in our support of the 2nd Amendment". And those may not be exact quotes for the pedantic, but that is the gist of it. |
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Posted: 10/19/2019 1:49:42 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Not to vouch for RP, but the people who won the primaries he participated in (2008-2012), were utter trash, and most of the membership regrets that they were even chosen to run and regret their votes. That might be something to consider in retrospect. But you are not at fault for the increased tensions on here between the lefties and the righties. That is beyond your control. If you try to make people tolerate stuff they hate, they will hate you for it. In 2000-2008 the mainstream left wasn't full communist(in Public). The times are changing. In the past two years you had people on here advocating for a coup based on a lie told by a guy into goat toddler porn that was protected from prosecution by the former director of the FBI. There Is no comparison to be made between them and the few 2minkey types, the Paulbots or even the Q people. That sort of thing some just won't tolerate, no matter how much you want them to. They shouldn't have to. Thus you got Sylvan cussing them because they deserved it. And as best as I can tell he is why we are here. Though the hardcore Q people were a mirror imagine in a lot of ways to the underscores, and they pissed some of the membership off just as much, at the end of the day, nothing they did effected reality or might lead to a civil war. Meh. My opinion is the novelty of razzing them, and they deserved everything they got, would have worn off in two months and everyone woulda been more or less fine. The fact that I think they were true believer SPLC brand feds catfishing gun owners nonwithstanding.  ETA: I do think TBS tried as good as he could, but I think this was a little before The Banning really got started. |
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Posted: 10/19/2019 2:28:53 AM EDT
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Maybe we can discuss krpind's departure at the big pro-2nd Amendment Rally in D.C..
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Posted: 10/19/2019 2:30:08 AM EDT
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It's kind of creating a weird dynamic. Everywhere outside this site and IRL, I'm always defending LE. Then I come here and some of the excuse making and bs makes me wonder why I bother. I'm sure I'm not alone there. In that respect, they seem to be hurting their own cause. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Posted: 10/19/2019 2:40:45 AM EDT
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@krpind
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Posted: 10/19/2019 3:13:07 AM EDT
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Maybe we can discuss krpind's departure at the big pro-2nd Amendment Rally in D.C.. Krpind is a good man, it is a shame he retired. He makes a good point too. We should be able to have the opinions we have and let the outsiders rot. This is a land of lawlessness and faction. Pretending it isn't, and that opinions on gun rights civil disobedience and advocacy is any different than illegal alien advocacy or drug advocacy or or a thousand other things is absurd. It is compounded in absurdity as gun rights are specifically enumerated and explicitly protected from state infringement. I miss Paul too. |
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Posted: 10/19/2019 3:23:38 AM EDT
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That's not what happened. Quite the opposite. He was pissed that there were people posting in that thread, defending the cop, while other people/threads were getting locked for discussing civil disobedience to unconstitutional laws. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: Anyone brushing off a woman being murdered in her own home should be kicked from mod/staff. If this site wants to back LE that try to excuse her murder away, no wonder KRP left and TBQH, the site isn't worth saving. Quoted: I'm not willing to volunteer to help if what appears to be the official policy is to allow a certain segment of the membership to post in support of an accused murderer while at almost the exact same time saying "people are watching, we can't get too crazy in our support of the 2nd Amendment". And those may not be exact quotes for the pedantic, but that is the gist of it. |
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Posted: 10/19/2019 3:37:20 AM EDT
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Not saying at all that KRP was defending the cop who shot that woman. Am saying that anyone who does support or "oh well's" that lady getting murdered has no business being mod or staff. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Quoted: Anyone brushing off a woman being murdered in her own home should be kicked from mod/staff. If this site wants to back LE that try to excuse her murder away, no wonder KRP left and TBQH, the site isn't worth saving. Quoted: I'm not willing to volunteer to help if what appears to be the official policy is to allow a certain segment of the membership to post in support of an accused murderer while at almost the exact same time saying "people are watching, we can't get too crazy in our support of the 2nd Amendment". And those may not be exact quotes for the pedantic, but that is the gist of it. In my opinion, if police can't maintain order, the locals should revoke their police powers and clean out the trash the police can't. People, police included, tend to forget, lawlessness isn't just something people with the Franchise of American free men have to accept. that is what the second amendment is for. Ineffective government poses all the same threats to life liberty and property as a corrupt one. |
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Posted: 10/19/2019 3:42:04 AM EDT
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The last bastion of 2A freedom (shit, non leftist groupthink freedom) is taking on water.
This is not good, not good at all. |
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Posted: 10/19/2019 4:09:39 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Hell, everyone should go. I have tentative plans. Krpind is a good man, it is a shame he retired. He makes a good point too. We should be able to have the opinions we have and let the outsiders rot. This is a land of lawlessness and faction. Pretending it isn't, and that opinions on gun rights are any different that illegal alien advocacy or a thousand other things is absurd. I miss Paul too. |
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Posted: 10/19/2019 4:17:45 AM EDT
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I don’t need to drink anymore. I drank enough two days ago to get everyone drunk for the next week. I think I have alcohol poisoning.
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Posted: 10/19/2019 7:14:30 AM EDT
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The mod? Where did he go? Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: Hell, everyone should go. I have tentative plans. Krpind is a good man, it is a shame he retired. He makes a good point too. We should be able to have the opinions we have and let the outsiders rot. This is a land of lawlessness and faction. Pretending it isn't, and that opinions on gun rights are any different that illegal alien advocacy or a thousand other things is absurd. I miss Paul too. Some comment to the effect of buying standard cap mags was on open display all over the state, and police were refusing to enforce the law, which is a misdemeanor. This angers Paul, because he saw it as flaunting the law on a public forum where any lefty journo could cause a world of hurt for the buyers sellers and local LE. So he edits a post. People razz him mostly due to the fault of other mod screw ups spanning months now. The words shit for brains might have been used by Paul in the same vein as those that disparage the letter writers to the tech branch of the Uknowwho- a-tee-f- about the youknowhats -shoulder things with the arm straps on "firearms". He had a good point. Criticizing the Execution is above my pay grade. IMO Unlike in many cases lately, If none of the other stuff had happened it wouldn't have amounted to anything. With the way things have been going for the last bit, it was like kicking a hornet nest. @mattf |
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Posted: 10/19/2019 7:17:58 AM EDT
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Wait, did he pass, or just stop bring a mod? Don't fuck around with this. |
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Posted: 10/19/2019 7:32:20 AM EDT
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Dang. krpind, you're a good dude from what I can tell. Wish you much happiness.
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Posted: 10/19/2019 7:32:26 AM EDT
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Embarrassing, pathetic and agenda driven.
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Posted: 10/19/2019 7:49:10 AM EDT
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The pro-cop bias on this site is pretty outrageous. There seem to be a LOT of moderators who are cops too.
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Posted: 10/19/2019 7:59:24 AM EDT
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The pro-cop bias on this site is pretty outrageous. There seem to be a LOT of moderators who are cops too. 
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Posted: 10/19/2019 8:05:01 AM EDT
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I hate change and this forum is changing. I am not sure if it will better or worse yet.
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Posted: 10/19/2019 8:07:02 AM EDT
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There's a couple few. But I'm not one. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The pro-cop bias on this site is pretty outrageous. There seem to be a LOT of moderators who are cops too. Close enough.
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Posted: 10/19/2019 8:07:43 AM EDT
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The pro-cop bias on this site is pretty outrageous. There seem to be a LOT of moderators who are cops too. |
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Posted: 10/19/2019 8:11:17 AM EDT
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Embarrassing, pathetic and agenda driven. What are humans without agendas? |
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Posted: 10/19/2019 8:12:35 AM EDT
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I hate change and this forum is changing. I am not sure if it will better or worse yet. |
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Posted: 10/19/2019 8:14:13 AM EDT
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Posted: 10/19/2019 8:17:16 AM EDT
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Posted: 10/19/2019 8:19:27 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: No, they were not. This was caused long before you joined the site. It started around the 2008 election, when (some, not all) Ron Paul supporters thought it was cool to spam every fucking thread with their bullshit, and attack anyone who didn’t like Ron Paul. Don’t like Ron Paul? - you hate America. Don’t like Ron Paul? - you hate freedom. Etc. Eventually they had to be quarantined in one thread, so they didn’t troll all of GD and poison everything with their juvenile bullshit. Since then, there as clearly been more of an influx from the chans and other sites, with some people who just see arfcom as their personal trolling playground, here to shitpost and be edgy, and not really give a shit about the gun community or the 2nd amendment. Since then it has only gotten worse. So now, a few Never_Trumpers, and the occasional lefty are NOT the problem. We’ve always had a small number of people like that on the site, and it’s never been a problem that couldn’t be managed, What we have seen in the last few years are people who seem completely unable to “peacefully co-exist” with people who have different political views from themselves, and who often seem to believe that they should be allowed to personally attack anyone whose view they don’t like - and who then conclude that there’s a HUGE problem with the site because we have rules against personally attacking people, and that must mean we are communist, or hate freedom, or hate America, or whatever. Again, mods and Staff are very much to blame for this, because we didn’t get out in front of this as the tone of GD gradually changed, and by the time TBS volunteered to jump on the angry bull and try to calm it down a little, we had probably let it go a bit too far, and some people had come to expect that it was okay to just attack people for having unpopular opinions in GD. |
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