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Posted: 9/3/2022 7:35:19 PM EDT
As some of you are aware, an angry mob of trannies has been launching an internet crusade against anybody they deemed problematic, particularly the free speech website Kiwifarms, but also anybody that has dared to defend Kiwifarms. We've had a politician caught in the crossfire of that via a false flag swatting, and in the last couple of days they have successfully gotten multiple political commentators deplatformed. Only a handful of days ago, Cloudflare promised that they would not directly intervene with censorship, only to reverse that decision within the last couple of hours.
Here is the blog post in it's entirety: Click To View Spoiler We have blocked Kiwifarms. Visitors to any of the Kiwifarms sites that use any of Cloudflare's services will see a Cloudflare block page and a link to this post. Kiwifarms may move their sites to other providers and, in doing so, come back online, but we have taken steps to block their content from being accessed through our infrastructure. The site owner's response:This is an extraordinary decision for us to make and, given Cloudflare's role as an Internet infrastructure provider, a dangerous one that we are not comfortable with. However, the rhetoric on the Kiwifarms site and specific, targeted threats have escalated over the last 48 hours to the point that we believe there is an unprecedented emergency and immediate threat to human life unlike we have previously seen from Kiwifarms or any other customer before. Escalating threats Kiwifarms has frequently been host to revolting content. Revolting content alone does not create an emergency situation that necessitates the action we are taking today. Beginning approximately two weeks ago, a pressure campaign started with the goal to deplatform Kiwifarms. That pressure campaign targeted Cloudflare as well as other providers utilized by the site. Cloudflare provides security services to Kiwifarms, protecting them from DDoS and other cyberattacks. We have never been their hosting provider. As we outlined last Wednesday, we do not believe that terminating security services is appropriate, even to revolting content. In a law-respecting world, the answer to even illegal content is not to use other illegal means like DDoS attacks to silence it. We are also not taking this action directly because of the pressure campaign. While we have empathy for its organizers, we are committed as a security provider to protecting our customers even when they run deeply afoul of popular opinion or even our own morals. The policy we articulated last Wednesday remains our policy. We continue to believe that the best way to relegate cyberattacks to the dustbin of history is to give everyone the tools to prevent them. However, as the pressure campaign escalated, so did the rhetoric on the Kiwifarms site. Feeling attacked, users of the site became even more aggressive. Over the last two weeks, we have proactively reached out to law enforcement in multiple jurisdictions highlighting what we believe are potential criminal acts and imminent threats to human life that were posted to the site. Legal process While law enforcement in these areas are working to investigate what we and others reported, unfortunately the process is moving more slowly than the escalating risk. While we believe that in every other situation we have faced including the Daily Stormer and 8chan it would have been appropriate as an infrastructure provider for us to wait for legal process, in this case the imminent and emergency threat to human life which continues to escalate causes us to take this action. Hard cases make bad law. This is a hard case and we would caution anyone from seeing it as setting precedent. The policies we articulated last Wednesday remain our policies. For an infrastructure provider like Cloudflare, legal process is still the correct way to deal with revolting and potentially illegal content online. But we need a mechanism when there is an emergency threat to human life for infrastructure providers to work expediently with legal authorities in order to ensure the decisions we make are grounded in due process. Unfortunately, that mechanism does not exist and so we are making this uncomfortable emergency decision alone. Not the end Finally, we are aware and concerned that our action may only fan the flames of this emergency. Kiwifarms itself will most likely find other infrastructure that allows them to come back online, as the Daily Stormer and 8chan did themselves after we terminated them. And, even if they don't, the individuals that used the site to increasingly terrorize will feel even more isolated and attacked and may lash out further. There is real risk that by taking this action today we may have further heightened the emergency. We will continue to work proactively with law enforcement to help with their investigations into the site and the individuals who have posted what may be illegal content to it. And we recognize that while our blocking Kiwifarms temporarily addresses the situation, it by no means solves the underlying problem. That solution will require much more work across society. We are hopeful that our action today will help provoke conversations toward addressing the larger problem. And we stand ready to participate in that conversation. The precedent has now been set that if you offend somebody, in this case, a transgender person, they can successfully lobby the media and private corporations to have your entire website deplatformed just by throwing a big enough temper tantrum. Free speech is dead in America. *UPDATE* So the last couple of days have been wild. The forum owner switched to Russian web services and thought that would work, but today Russia also bent the knee to the globohomo. There is now a movement to get the userbase classified as domestic terrorists, and in Germany, at least one member is now under investigation. They are also trying to continue to deplatform other E-celebs that supported it, namely Nick Rekieta and Mr. Metokur, and a handful of others. As it stands, the Website is probably not coming back up through normal public channels. I will leave you with the Owner's closing statements: In my life, there is a family emergency. It has absolutely nothing to do with the forum drama. I cannot and will not elaborate further. There will be a week or more where I am completely unavailable and it is likely the site will go down during this time where I will not be able to bring it up. I want to appraise our situation frankly. Domain Registrar Cloudflare was both our application-level DDoS mitigation and our domain registrar. They have given me a way to transfer my domains to another registrar. I do not know what registrar to send it to because I do not have faith in any company. DDoS Mitigation DDoS-Guard will drop us dropped us while I was writing this post. This meme about Russia being a free country is a joke. The US is a free country, but with no stewards to protect it. Without the US, there is no second best. I did not expect Cloudflare to crumple so quickly and I don't have a Plan C for DDoS mitigation. Resource Allocation I own IP addresses. Our IP allocation is from APNIC. APNIC is one of the 5 private companies which allocate Internet resources around the world. APNIC happens to be based out of Australia, which recently passed draconian censorship laws. There is an effort to get our RIR to revoke our allocation. This would be unprecedented in the history of the Internet, and considering China is in APNIC's region, an absolutely horrific standard which will echo throughout the upcoming decades. There is a non-zero chance of this happening. Hosting We have one host and I am looking at two more. It is likely that the host will give up too. The two hosts confident they can handle the Kiwi Farms are probably wrong. DDoS-Guard was confident they could handle the Kiwi Farms and said "bring it on" for less than 24 hours. This is an organized attack. There is a coalition of criminals trying to frame the forum for their behavior. These criminals provide opportunities for professional victims to amplify their message. Journalists canonize the crimes as the behavior of the forum itself, which becomes the effective truth for the general public. This is a machine that was built up formerly against 8chan and activates any time the cathedral wants to test the new fronts of its censorship. It is a massive amalgamation of various interests. I am one person. The financial limitations aren't even the real problem - the problem is, I am powerless alone. There is no amount of money I can throw to convince people to be brave and be free. This is just the reality of our country. And what this machine will not accept is compromise. If I censored specific kinds of behavior, it would not matter. They don't want a specific thing censored. They want the average person to be able to speak in channels where only specific thoughts are acceptable. More importantly, they want to make it so that no small organization can host a service which threatens the cathedral. It used to be that one guy with a good idea could open a platform and be a Tom Anderson, Mark Zuckerberg, Tom Fulp, Christopher Poole, or Richard Kyanka. Take note these names are all from 10+ years ago. There are no new groundbreakers online anymore because breaking ground in the new Internet's corporate parking lot is not allowed. I do not see a situation where the Kiwi Farms is simply allowed to operate. It will either become a fractured shell of itself, like 8chan, or jump between hosts and domain names like Daily Stormer. View Quote Bad times are coming, and they're coming a lot faster than even I anticipated. It only took an angry mob of mental ill perverts a few weeks to pull this off. We're all going to be suprressed within the next couple of years, unless there is an extreme pushback. |
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I must have my head in my ass. This is the first time I've heard of kiwifarms.
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Quoted: Got a link from a credible source? https://www.businessinsider.com/kiwi-farms-trans-activists-mtg-swatting-trolling-website-offline-2022-8?amp |
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Free speech as in doxing and actually stalking family members of people they don't like? As in they are showing up at their homes?
Fuck em. Total Ralphamale victory. |
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Cloudflare has now set a precedent. They will now be required to police content hosted through their service. They can no longer claim common carrier protections. They've shot themselves in the heart.
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Wait until you see the hit piece he comes up with for this site. You don’t really think they’re going to stop at Kiwifarms do you?
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Quoted: How about Marjorie Space Laser Greene? https://www.businessinsider.com/kiwi-farms-trans-activists-mtg-swatting-trolling-website-offline-2022-8?amp View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Got a link from a credible source? https://www.businessinsider.com/kiwi-farms-trans-activists-mtg-swatting-trolling-website-offline-2022-8?amp |
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LOL so much for their vow to no longer deplatform offensive websites
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Quoted: MTG and Keffals on the same side? View Quote |
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Never heard of them before, sounds like "KFers" engaged in all kinds of arock shenanigans
https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2016/07/kiwi-farms-the-webs-biggest-community-of-stalkers.html |
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Quoted: Marjorie Taylor Greene, without doing any research on the matter, immediately fell for the false flag and called for the erasure of the website from the internet. The first time she was really presented with a free speech issue, she erred right on the side of Tyranny, and has still not walked back any of her comments, leading me to believe she is just another actor in congress. View Quote |
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Transgenderism is an ideology based on lies, and like all such it can be sustained only through oppression.
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Quoted: Never heard of them before, sounds like "KFers" engaged in all kinds of arock shenanigans https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2016/07/kiwi-farms-the-webs-biggest-community-of-stalkers.html View Quote You are falling right into the narrative Keffals has used the media to create. |
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Quoted: Cloudflare has now set a precedent. They will now be required to police content hosted through their service. They can no longer claim common carrier protections. They've shot themselves in the heart. View Quote That's a really great joke but honestly that kind of stuff is wearing thin even as a joke. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Got a link from a credible source? https://www.businessinsider.com/kiwi-farms-trans-activists-mtg-swatting-trolling-website-offline-2022-8?amp Talks the talk but can’t walk the walk. |
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Quoted: How about Marjorie Space Laser Greene? https://www.businessinsider.com/kiwi-farms-trans-activists-mtg-swatting-trolling-website-offline-2022-8?amp View Quote edit: doesn't arfcom use some cloudflare services? |
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Here's an interview between a lawyer and the owner. It's long but he discusses his policy on harassment in the first few minutes.
The Null Position |
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Never mind the obvious threat this poses to this forum, what happens when activists decide online retailers like Brownells or Primary Arms are “offensive and harmful” and get their ddos protection dropped?
Seem far fetched? It isn’t. |
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The undesirables ot this nation will not be allowed a platform to organize and present threats to our nations soul or precious democracy. When this site is deplatformed another moderator elsewhere will be posting the propaganda prices calling for it and promptly blame the site for its shenanigans.
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The level of control Cloudflare has over the internet is terrifying
Oh yeah and i hate trannies |
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Quoted: Isn't Keffalls a person that mails drugs to children? View Quote |
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Quoted: Kiwifarm is 300 times the size ar15.com membership. It's downright scary. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: I must have my head in my ass. This is the first time I've heard of kiwifarms. Kiwifarm is 300 times the size ar15.com membership. It's downright scary. I’d never heard of it either until this thread. I guess I’ll have to see what they’re even about. |
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If you cant support your argument with facts, silence your opposition.
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Quoted: Lol I’ll be shocked if they don’t have Cozy de-platformed next. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Free speech as in doxing and actually stalking family members of people they don't like? As in they are showing up at their homes? Fuck em. Total Ralphamale victory. Lol I’ll be shocked if they don’t have Cozy de-platformed next. I believe Cozy was setup in such a way that it couldn't be deplatformed, but that's all electronic magic dust to me. |
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And I don’t give a single solitary fuck what section 50 of your faggot law say about sharing your email. Fuck you and fuck your shithole country.”
Josh Moon knew how to respond to inquiries from foreign governments. |
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Quoted: I'd never heard of it either until this thread. I guess I'll have to see what they're even about. View Quote |
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Quoted: Isn't Keffalls a person that mails drugs to children? View Quote I looked around a little and didnt see anything that directly said that, though it seemed implied in one article, and it would surprise me if it such information was make hard to find... or I could just suck at finding stuff. But if he was one of the assholes sending puberty blockers to little kids then fuck him and good target. |
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Quoted: Marjorie Taylor Greene, without doing any research on the matter, immediately fell for the false flag and called for the erasure of the website from the internet. The first time she was really presented with a free speech issue, she erred right on the side of Tyranny, and has still not walked back any of her comments, leading me to believe she is just another actor in congress. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: MTG and Keffals on the same side? I doubt anyone in her circle even knew what kiwifarms was until after the swatting, let alone figured it was a false flag. |
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Color me surprised that the Lefties get their panties in a twist when their tactics get pointed back at them.
Doxing and harassing individuals isn’t cool anymore? Who would’ve thought it? |
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Quoted: Quoted: I thought she was coordinating having kids travel to no parental consent states to get hormone blockers, HRT and surgeries. It’s worse than sex trafficking by a factor of a billion and yet it’s defended. "she?" It? I don’t know….most of the details I heard was Nick reketia reaming out some limey guy who was trying to white knight for him/her/it zer whatever lol |
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A member from this forum will be on vacation someday at Disney and pull their phone out to check the forum.
It'll be gone and he will wonder what happened. |
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Fuck them.
Fuck them all. Fuck Biden too. And Harris. And everyone that voted for them. And everyone that supports them. Barr can suck a fucking dick too, come to think of it. |
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Quoted: How about Marjorie Space Laser Greene? https://www.businessinsider.com/kiwi-farms-trans-activists-mtg-swatting-trolling-website-offline-2022-8?amp View Quote LOL come on. That was an absurdly obvious false flag. Why would the swatter identify themselves as being from kiwi farms - obviously the whole point was to increase pressure on cloudflare to drop the site. I occasionally read the kiwifarms thread on Karl and other gun tubers. It was pretty funny. I never saw anything crazy on there - just a fairly unfiltered forum. I think I did briefly read the thread about this keffals person from twitter that started this whole thing. From what I remember they had gotten a kiwifarms thread because they were running a twitch channel aimed at kids and funneling those kids into their sexual discord 'catboy farms' or something - basically text book grooming. kinda crazy how that didn't make it into the nbc article.. The owner of cloudflare is posting on Hacker News about it https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32706673 Pretty much everyone on there is just automatically conflating stormfront and kiwifarms like everything cloudflare bans is automatically 'evil nazis'. It is pretty wild how one sided it is - I imagine the conversation will look just like that if the twitter brigade ever comes for this site. |
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