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Was this what the 4 Chan-8 Chan people jumped to or something different?
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Is there really no way to make a forum proof against this kind of bullying/attack?
We've been living under this threat for years. Serious question: What is ar15.com's plan to deal with this kind of threat? eta: Rhetorical, don't answer publicly in case it is technical and to reveal it would endanger it. |
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Looks like Taylor Lorenz of WaPo already had an entire article written and ready to go within minutes of Cloudflare’s banning. How convenient.
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Quoted: Is there really no way to make a forum proof against this kind of bullying/attack? We've been living under this threat for years. Serious question: What is ar15.com's plan to deal with this kind of threat? eta: Rhetorical, don't answer publicly in case it is technical and to reveal it would endanger it. View Quote doesn't seem like it. cloudflare hides the DDOS for hire sites behind their service. In order to survive a DDOS you need cloudflare - the competitors are 100x more expensive and completely out of reach to everything but mega corporations. cloudflare is completely left aligned and makes a show about thinking about things but will always end up siding with the left wing cancel culture mobs. There is not really a solution to this : this site uses cloudflare. If it was kicked of cloudflare it would quickly be DDOSed into the ground and/or become too expensive to operate. Anybody can post something on here, post a screenshot on twitter and use it as a pressure campaign to deplatform. I think the only thing stopping it is Cloudflare is a publicly traded company. They aren't really doing that hot as it is. Every time they deplatform someone they lose trust and business. Even the ultra left wing techies get nervous when Cloudflare starts flip flopping and banning sites randomly. Thats why they have to write these ridiculous hand wringing blog posts to try and defend their decisions. |
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More info so other can understand
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kiwi_Farms Another link in this fucked up puzzle https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Encyclopedia_Dramatica |
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Already back up at kiwifarms.ru.
Null is an actual free speech advocate who walks the walk at considerable personal cost. Big respect for the guy, even if he is running a site that exists to make fun of retards and internet drama. The fact that it gets people so worked up is a sign they're over target. |
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Dunno what kiwi farms is but what's to stop people from buying accounts, coming here and posting shit like that to get this site blocked? Mods can't be everywhere all the time.
Not a damn thing. You tards supporting this are enabling your own demise. This is standard practice from the left now. |
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Quoted: Dunno what kiwi farms is but what's to stop people from buying accounts, coming here and posting shit like that to get this site blocked? Mods can't be everywhere all the time. Not a damn thing. You tards supporting this are enabling your own demise. This is standard practice from the left now. View Quote Absolutely nothing. It's the tactic that was used by groups of coordinated agitators on Reddit to get many subs removed, often conservative or pro-gun subs. |
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Quoted: As some of you are aware, an angry mob of trannies has been launching an internet crusade against anybody they deemed problematic, particularly the free speech website Kiwifarms, but also anybody that has dared to defend Kiwifarms. We've had a politician caught in the crossfire of that via a false flag swatting, and in the last couple of days they have successfully gotten multiple political commentators deplatformed. Only a handful of days ago, Cloudflare promised that they would not directly intervene with censorship, only to reverse that decision within the last couple of hours. https://i.imgur.com/nnCxKzf.jpg Here is the blog post in it's entirety: Click To View Spoiler We have blocked Kiwifarms. Visitors to any of the Kiwifarms sites that use any of Cloudflare's services will see a Cloudflare block page and a link to this post. Kiwifarms may move their sites to other providers and, in doing so, come back online, but we have taken steps to block their content from being accessed through our infrastructure. The site owner's response:This is an extraordinary decision for us to make and, given Cloudflare's role as an Internet infrastructure provider, a dangerous one that we are not comfortable with. However, the rhetoric on the Kiwifarms site and specific, targeted threats have escalated over the last 48 hours to the point that we believe there is an unprecedented emergency and immediate threat to human life unlike we have previously seen from Kiwifarms or any other customer before. Escalating threats Kiwifarms has frequently been host to revolting content. Revolting content alone does not create an emergency situation that necessitates the action we are taking today. Beginning approximately two weeks ago, a pressure campaign started with the goal to deplatform Kiwifarms. That pressure campaign targeted Cloudflare as well as other providers utilized by the site. Cloudflare provides security services to Kiwifarms, protecting them from DDoS and other cyberattacks. We have never been their hosting provider. As we outlined last Wednesday, we do not believe that terminating security services is appropriate, even to revolting content. In a law-respecting world, the answer to even illegal content is not to use other illegal means like DDoS attacks to silence it. We are also not taking this action directly because of the pressure campaign. While we have empathy for its organizers, we are committed as a security provider to protecting our customers even when they run deeply afoul of popular opinion or even our own morals. The policy we articulated last Wednesday remains our policy. We continue to believe that the best way to relegate cyberattacks to the dustbin of history is to give everyone the tools to prevent them. However, as the pressure campaign escalated, so did the rhetoric on the Kiwifarms site. Feeling attacked, users of the site became even more aggressive. Over the last two weeks, we have proactively reached out to law enforcement in multiple jurisdictions highlighting what we believe are potential criminal acts and imminent threats to human life that were posted to the site. Legal process While law enforcement in these areas are working to investigate what we and others reported, unfortunately the process is moving more slowly than the escalating risk. While we believe that in every other situation we have faced including the Daily Stormer and 8chan it would have been appropriate as an infrastructure provider for us to wait for legal process, in this case the imminent and emergency threat to human life which continues to escalate causes us to take this action. Hard cases make bad law. This is a hard case and we would caution anyone from seeing it as setting precedent. The policies we articulated last Wednesday remain our policies. For an infrastructure provider like Cloudflare, legal process is still the correct way to deal with revolting and potentially illegal content online. But we need a mechanism when there is an emergency threat to human life for infrastructure providers to work expediently with legal authorities in order to ensure the decisions we make are grounded in due process. Unfortunately, that mechanism does not exist and so we are making this uncomfortable emergency decision alone. Not the end Finally, we are aware and concerned that our action may only fan the flames of this emergency. Kiwifarms itself will most likely find other infrastructure that allows them to come back online, as the Daily Stormer and 8chan did themselves after we terminated them. And, even if they don't, the individuals that used the site to increasingly terrorize will feel even more isolated and attacked and may lash out further. There is real risk that by taking this action today we may have further heightened the emergency. We will continue to work proactively with law enforcement to help with their investigations into the site and the individuals who have posted what may be illegal content to it. And we recognize that while our blocking Kiwifarms temporarily addresses the situation, it by no means solves the underlying problem. That solution will require much more work across society. We are hopeful that our action today will help provoke conversations toward addressing the larger problem. And we stand ready to participate in that conversation. https://i.imgur.com/sFH0hwP.jpg The precedent has now been set that if you offend somebody, in this case, a transgender person, they can successfully lobby the media and private corporations to have your entire website deplatformed just by throwing a big enough temper tantrum. Free speech is dead in America. View Quote I would say that precedent was set when Amazon killed Parler "because of 1/6" and suffered absolutely zero consequences. Which reminds me - ar15.com needs to get the off of AWS because it is really only a matter of time before they go whole hog and knock as many of the little fish they find annoying that got hooked on their cheap cloud services as they think they can get away with. |
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Quoted: I would say that precedent was set when Amazon killed Parler "because of 1/6" and suffered absolutely zero consequences. Which reminds me - ar15.com needs to get the off of AWS because it is really only a matter of time before they go whole hog and knock as many of the little fish they find annoying that got hooked on their cheap cloud services as they think they can get away with. View Quote Well, remember when they did that once already because of an unspecified threat posted at a politician? I think it was AOC. And conveniently at a very politically convenient time when many other conservatives were being deplatformed simultaneously. |
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Evil wins again. More purging
How long before a letter threatening ‘ somebody’ from here ‘Imma going to kill you bitch with my ar15 that I learned all about on afrfcom and I will use my ar15 just like arfcom told me to did I mention I have an ar15 and I use arfcom? ‘ |
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Quoted: Never heard of them before, sounds like "KFers" engaged in all kinds of arock shenanigans https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2016/07/kiwi-farms-the-webs-biggest-community-of-stalkers.html View Quote |
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Quoted: Yes, or is complicit in it, I don't remember which. I can't post the facts and evidence because it was on Kiwifarms. Most people think that was the main reason he attacked the website, besides using it as a gofundme opportunity (He raised over $100,000 and is currently using that money to go on a vacation in Ireland). He very well may have been doing illegal shit and wants that evidence buried. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Isn't Keffalls a person that mails drugs to children? |
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Kiwifamrm is full of aids a s retards. But fuck deplatforming them.
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Supposedly KF already had contingency plans in the works and are moving to an .ru domain.
Quoted: Cloudflare has now set a precedent. They will now be required to police content hosted through their service. They can no longer claim common carrier protections. They've shot themselves in the heart. View Quote They already set the precedent awhile back when they dropped 8chan and Stormfront. |
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The Internet Archive has done a more through job archiving the site than they usually do.
I've never seen this many daily and hourly captures for any other website before. https://web.archive.org/web/20220000000000,https://kiwifarms.net Compare it to ar15.com as an example. https://web.archive.org/web/20220000000000 |
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You can’t stop the signal troon.
So the fighter for the constitution MTG teamed up with a dude that gets off on castrating kids to censor a million people. |
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I wonder if the person who wrote that article knows who chris chan/sonichu is?
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Kiwi Farms is an evil place where cowardly Ultra MAGAs go to bully and harass patriots. https://t.co/JSu4g0FMrL— The Lincoln Project (@ProjectLincoln) September 2, 2022
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Quoted: I doubt anyone in her circle even knew what kiwifarms was until after the swatting, let alone figured it was a false flag. View Quote |
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Is t that the groomer who's hard drives are still in the fbis possession who was mailing hormones to minors without prescriptions?
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When you start from the premise "I have power and money, no scruples, and want total control" and start asking what your strategic plan looks like...then much of what you see in the news suddenly makes sense.
https://youtu.be/m0UB3LD2EoA That was 1992. Do you think Disney will ever make a movie with a theme as cuttingly relevant as this ever again? If not...why? |
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people need to stop using wikipedia as a source of anything but the official left wing narrative on something.
Look at the page on Kiwi Farms : it has been completely rewritten to support the left wing deplatforming mob and the page is now locked from further edits. |
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Quoted: Free speech as in doxing and actually stalking family members of people they don't like? As in they are showing up at their homes? Fuck em. Total Ralphamale victory. View Quote While I have never heard of this site, and certainly don't condone either of those things, when CEOs of corporations like cloudflare, in this case, Matthew Prince, decides of his own accord that you SHALL NOT see the content, whatever it is, what happens when its gun related or political related content or covid opinions, or anything he doesn't like? Who gets to be the arbiter of what everyone can see or can't see. One man? Dangerous to liberty in general imo. If there is wrong doing, that where LE is suppose to step in. Not one guy who happens to hold the reins of a powerful global network. It doesn't get much more Orwellian than that. Free speech is my right to say what you don't want to hear. George Orwell |
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Quoted: Quoted: Marjorie Taylor Greene, without doing any research on the matter, immediately fell for the false flag and called for the erasure of the website from the internet. The first time she was really presented with a free speech issue, she erred right on the side of Tyranny, and has still not walked back any of her comments, leading me to believe she is just another actor in congress. My take on his meaning is that he is saying she is part of the effort by some in our government to make it appear that our government is of and by the people, when in reality it is nothing of the sort, despite all her drama. |
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Quoted: cloudflare hides the DDOS for hire sites behind their service. In order to survive a DDOS you need cloudflare - the competitors are 100x more expensive and completely out of reach to everything but mega corporations. View Quote Apparently not - KF is now up again on a .RU domain and using DDOS-Guard. As another said in this thread, "you can't stop the signal". Can't stop the signal |
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Can we back up a little and explain some shit, because I've never heard of most of these.
What is the internet? |
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Quoted: Can we back up a little and explain some shit, because I've never heard of most of these. What is the internet? View Quote Kiwi farms is a forum for LOL cows The tranny was swatted and they took it's hard drives. It is part of an underground network mailing tranny hormones to minors without prescriptions or parents knowing. Groomers if you will |
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They just can't let it not be political, "...the harassment techniques [swatting, doxing] being used to target trans people now could easily be channeled toward larger goals and government targets — including other recent political targets of the far-right, like the FBI." I'm pretty sure Marjorie Taylor-Green would not be a target of 'far-right extremists', yet she was also just "swatted". ...twice.
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Quoted: Cloudflare has now set a precedent. They will now be required to police content hosted through their service. They can no longer claim common carrier protections. They've shot themselves in the heart. View Quote Same issue I have with FB, YT, google, twitard, etc. Imho that opens them up for liability. |
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Quoted: Already back up at kiwifarms.ru. Null is an actual free speech advocate who walks the walk at considerable personal cost. Big respect for the guy, even if he is running a site that exists to make fun of retards and internet drama. The fact that it gets people so worked up is a sign they're over target. View Quote There is a lot of commonality with GD at KiwiFarms; the tone and piss-taking is almost identical. People should be very worried, because this is the thin end of the wedge. The same people that claim they're oppressed out of existence can have sites removed from the internet, journalists on-tap, with a snap of their fingers. It should be extremely worrisome. Apparently all it takes is for someone to phone in a threat in the target site's name and suddenly nobody willl do business with you. Arfcom already had a brush with this a while ago with GoDaddy, iirc. |
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I’m waiting for GD to lash out at the farms because their favorite conservagrifter has a several hundred page thread.
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In Null's latest telegram post he brought this up.
"Resource Allocation I own IP addresses. Our IP allocation is from APNIC. APNIC is one of the 5 private companies which allocate Internet resources around the world. APNIC happens to be based out of Australia, which recently passed draconian censorship laws. There is an effort to get our RIR to revoke our allocation. This would be unprecedented in the history of the Internet, and considering China is in APNIC's region, an absolutely horrific standard which will echo throughout the upcoming decades. There is a non-zero chance of this happening." Here's a link to the Telegram post. https://t.me/s/kiwifarms Even if they can get back online he's concerned that APNIC would be pressured to revoke their allocation. Even if you don't like Kiwifarms this is not a good precedent to set. |
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Quoted: I'm waiting for GD to lash out at the farms because their favorite conservagrifter has a several hundred page thread. View Quote |
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