[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Cloudflare bent the knee and deplatformed Kiwifarms from the internet *OP UPDATE* It's over (Page 2 of 5)
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Is there really no way to make a forum proof against this kind of bullying/attack? We've been living under this threat for years. Serious question: What is ar15.com's plan to deal with this kind of threat? eta: Rhetorical, don't answer publicly in case it is technical and to reveal it would endanger it. |
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Quoted: Is there really no way to make a forum proof against this kind of bullying/attack? We've been living under this threat for years. Serious question: Â What is ar15.com's plan to deal with this kind of threat? eta: Rhetorical, don't answer publicly in case it is technical and to reveal it would endanger it. doesn't seem like it. cloudflare hides the DDOS for hire sites behind their service. In order to survive a DDOS you need cloudflare - the competitors are 100x more expensive and completely out of reach to everything but mega corporations. cloudflare is completely left aligned and makes a show about thinking about things but will always end up siding with the left wing cancel culture mobs. There is not really a solution to this : this site uses cloudflare. If it was kicked of cloudflare it would quickly be DDOSed into the ground and/or become too expensive to operate. Anybody can post something on here, post a screenshot on twitter and use it as a pressure campaign to deplatform. I think the only thing stopping it is Cloudflare is a publicly traded company. They aren't really doing that hot as it is. Every time they deplatform someone they lose trust and business. Even the ultra left wing techies get nervous when Cloudflare starts flip flopping and banning sites randomly. Thats why they have to write these ridiculous hand wringing blog posts to try and defend their decisions. |
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More info so other can understand https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kiwi_Farms Another link in this fucked up puzzle https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Encyclopedia_Dramatica |
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Already back up at kiwifarms.ru. Null is an actual free speech advocate who walks the walk at considerable personal cost. Big respect for the guy, even if he is running a site that exists to make fun of retards and internet drama. The fact that it gets people so worked up is a sign they're over target. |
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Dunno what kiwi farms is but what's to stop people from buying accounts, coming here and posting shit like that to get this site blocked? Mods can't be everywhere all the time. Not a damn thing. You tards supporting this are enabling your own demise. This is standard practice from the left now. |
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Quoted: Dunno what kiwi farms is but what's to stop people from buying accounts, coming here and posting shit like that to get this site blocked? Â Mods can't be everywhere all the time. Not a damn thing. Â You tards supporting this are enabling your own demise. Â This is standard practice from the left now. Absolutely nothing. It's the tactic that was used by groups of coordinated agitators on Reddit to get many subs removed, often conservative or pro-gun subs. |
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Quoted: As some of you are aware, an angry mob of trannies has been launching an internet crusade against anybody they deemed problematic, particularly the free speech website Kiwifarms, but also anybody that has dared to defend Kiwifarms. We've had a politician caught in the crossfire of that via a false flag swatting, and in the last couple of days they have successfully gotten multiple political commentators deplatformed. Only a handful of days ago, Cloudflare promised that they would not directly intervene with censorship, only to reverse that decision within the last couple of hours. https://i.imgur.com/nnCxKzf.jpg Here is the blog post in it's entirety: Click To View SpoilerThe site owner's response: https://i.imgur.com/sFH0hwP.jpg The precedent has now been set that if you offend somebody, in this case, a transgender person, they can successfully lobby the media and private corporations to have your entire website deplatformed just by throwing a big enough temper tantrum. Free speech is dead in America. I would say that precedent was set when Amazon killed Parler "because of 1/6" and suffered absolutely zero consequences. Which reminds me - ar15.com needs to get the off of AWS because it is really only a matter of time before they go whole hog and knock as many of the little fish they find annoying that got hooked on their cheap cloud services as they think they can get away with. |
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Quoted: I would say that precedent was set when Amazon killed Parler "because of 1/6" and suffered absolutely zero consequences. Which reminds me - ar15.com needs to get the off of AWS because it is really only a matter of time before they go whole hog and knock as many of the little fish they find annoying that got hooked on their cheap cloud services as they think they can get away with. Well, remember when they did that once already because of an unspecified threat posted at a politician? I think it was AOC. And conveniently at a very politically convenient time when many other conservatives were being deplatformed simultaneously. |
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Evil wins again. More purging How long before a letter threatening ‘ somebody’ from here ‘Imma going to kill you bitch with my ar15 that I learned all about on afrfcom and I will use my ar15 just like arfcom told me to did I mention I have an ar15 and I use arfcom? ‘ |
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Quoted: Never heard of them before, sounds like "KFers" engaged in all kinds of arock shenanigans https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2016/07/kiwi-farms-the-webs-biggest-community-of-stalkers.html |
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Quoted: Yes, or is complicit in it, I don't remember which. I can't post the facts and evidence because it was on Kiwifarms. Most people think that was the main reason he attacked the website, besides using it as a gofundme opportunity (He raised over $100,000 and is currently using that money to go on a vacation in Ireland). He very well may have been doing illegal shit and wants that evidence buried. Quoted: Quoted: Isn't Keffalls a person that mails drugs to children? |
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Supposedly KF already had contingency plans in the works and are moving to an .ru domain. Quoted: Cloudflare has now set a precedent. They will now be required to police content hosted through their service. They can no longer claim common carrier protections. They've shot themselves in the heart. They already set the precedent awhile back when they dropped 8chan and Stormfront. |
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The Internet Archive has done a more through job archiving the site than they usually do. I've never seen this many daily and hourly captures for any other website before. https://web.archive.org/web/20220000000000,https://kiwifarms.net Compare it to ar15.com as an example. https://web.archive.org/web/20220000000000 |
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Quoted: I doubt anyone in her circle even knew what kiwifarms was until after the swatting, let alone figured it was a false flag. |
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When you start from the premise "I have power and money, no scruples, and want total control" and start asking what your strategic plan looks like...then much of what you see in the news suddenly makes sense. https://youtu.be/m0UB3LD2EoA That was 1992. Do you think Disney will ever make a movie with a theme as cuttingly relevant as this ever again? If not...why? |
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people need to stop using wikipedia as a source of anything but the official left wing narrative on something. Look at the page on Kiwi Farms : it has been completely rewritten to support the left wing deplatforming mob and the page is now locked from further edits. |
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Quoted: Free speech as in doxing and actually stalking family members of people they don't like? Â As in they are showing up at their homes? Fuck em. Total Ralphamale victory. While I have never heard of this site, and certainly don't condone either of those things, when CEOs of corporations like cloudflare, in this case, Matthew Prince, decides of his own accord that you SHALL NOT see the content, whatever it is, what happens when its gun related or political related content or covid opinions, or anything he doesn't like? Who gets to be the arbiter of what everyone can see or can't see. One man? Dangerous to liberty in general imo. If there is wrong doing, that where LE is suppose to step in. Not one guy who happens to hold the reins of a powerful global network. It doesn't get much more Orwellian than that. Free speech is my right to say what you don't want to hear. George Orwell |
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Quoted: What do you mean she's "an actor"? Quoted: Quoted: Marjorie Taylor Greene, without doing any research on the matter, immediately fell for the false flag and called for the erasure of the website from the internet. The first time she was really presented with a free speech issue, she erred right on the side of Tyranny, and has still not walked back any of her comments, leading me to believe she is just another actor in congress. My take on his meaning is that he is saying she is part of the effort by some in our government to make it appear that our government is of and by the people, when in reality it is nothing of the sort, despite all her drama. |
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Quoted: cloudflare hides the DDOS for hire sites behind their service. In order to survive a DDOS you need cloudflare - the competitors are 100x more expensive and completely out of reach to everything but mega corporations. Apparently not - KF is now up again on a .RU domain and using DDOS-Guard. As another said in this thread, "you can't stop the signal". ![]() Can''t stop the signal |
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Quoted: Can we back up a little and explain some shit, because I've never heard of most of these. What is the internet? Kiwi farms is a forum for LOL cows The tranny was swatted and they took it's hard drives. It is part of an underground network mailing tranny hormones to minors without prescriptions or parents knowing. Groomers if you will |
| They just can't let it not be political, "...the harassment techniques [swatting, doxing] being used to target trans people now could easily be channeled toward larger goals and government targets — including other recent political targets of the far-right, like the FBI." I'm pretty sure Marjorie Taylor-Green would not be a target of 'far-right extremists', yet she was also just "swatted". ...twice. |
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Quoted: Cloudflare has now set a precedent. They will now be required to police content hosted through their service. They can no longer claim common carrier protections. They've shot themselves in the heart. Same issue I have with FB, YT, google, twitard, etc. Imho that opens them up for liability. |
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Quoted: Already back up at kiwifarms.ru. Null is an actual free speech advocate who walks the walk at considerable personal cost. Big respect for the guy, even if he is running a site that exists to make fun of retards and internet drama. The fact that it gets people so worked up is a sign they're over target. There is a lot of commonality with GD at KiwiFarms; the tone and piss-taking is almost identical. People should be very worried, because this is the thin end of the wedge. The same people that claim they're oppressed out of existence can have sites removed from the internet, journalists on-tap, with a snap of their fingers. It should be extremely worrisome. Apparently all it takes is for someone to phone in a threat in the target site's name and suddenly nobody willl do business with you. Arfcom already had a brush with this a while ago with GoDaddy, iirc. |
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In Null's latest telegram post he brought this up. "Resource Allocation I own IP addresses. Our IP allocation is from APNIC. APNIC is one of the 5 private companies which allocate Internet resources around the world. APNIC happens to be based out of Australia, which recently passed draconian censorship laws. There is an effort to get our RIR to revoke our allocation. This would be unprecedented in the history of the Internet, and considering China is in APNIC's region, an absolutely horrific standard which will echo throughout the upcoming decades. There is a non-zero chance of this happening." Here's a link to the Telegram post. https://t.me/s/kiwifarms Even if they can get back online he's concerned that APNIC would be pressured to revoke their allocation. Even if you don't like Kiwifarms this is not a good precedent to set.
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Quoted: I'm waiting for GD to lash out at the farms because their favorite conservagrifter has a several hundred page thread. |
[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Cloudflare bent the knee and deplatformed Kiwifarms from the internet *OP UPDATE* It's over (Page 2 of 5)
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