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Posted: 8/29/2020 4:40:26 PM EDT
EDIT TO INSERT:
BIL is a putz, who made a stupid mistake, and now he's going to have to argue the mistake with GE.
He's a real estate agent who was fixing some issues with the unit he's selling for a client, and screwed up.


Original post intact:
Yes, my Brother in Law, not me.
Brand new GE fridge, model gcv06gsnsb.
He installed a 120 volt power cord to the power block, and plugged it into the wall.

He was installing it in a condo he's selling, and not surprisingly, it didn't work.
He brought it over today and asked if I could 'take a look at it'....

Well, the label on the back says 12VDC, 9 Amps.
It didn't come with any kind of special plug or transformer, and I figure that's because it says on the web site it's "Designed for use in RV, boat and solar homes"...

Is he completely screwed, or is there some kind of idiot fuse/circuit breaker inside that helps save assholes from themselves?

I feel kinda bad for the guy, and told him so after I got done smirking.
But I would kinda like to be a ray of sunshine in the bonehead's life regarding this.

Help/advice?

Disclaimer:
Picture of idiot BIL supplied on request, but I dunno why anyone would care.
Sister is a 60 yo diabetic with a heart condition, so you wouldn't care about her, either.
Link Posted: 8/29/2020 4:46:01 PM EDT
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If he's lucky he blew up the input input circuit before the compressor.
But I've never heard of a 12 volt refrigerator, so there's no way I can tell you how to determine that.
But it will cost less if that's the case.
Link Posted: 8/29/2020 4:47:13 PM EDT
[#2]
What happened when he plugged it in?
Link Posted: 8/29/2020 4:47:18 PM EDT
[#3]
AC/DC releases hidden b side. “Herpy deeds, done derp cheap”
Link Posted: 8/29/2020 4:47:28 PM EDT
[#4]
What did he think was going to happen?
Link Posted: 8/29/2020 4:50:01 PM EDT
[#5]
Is there a fusible link or similar present?

Because if there is you probably need a new one.

Also, tell him to never wire anything ever again for his own safety.
Link Posted: 8/29/2020 4:50:13 PM EDT
[#6]
Take the covers off and look?

ETA:  He's still going to need to buy a 120v AC fridge.
Link Posted: 8/29/2020 4:52:29 PM EDT
[#7]
How? Did the 12V Fridge have  2 or 3 prong AC type plug?

Nevermind, Did not read the full post.
Link Posted: 8/29/2020 4:53:48 PM EDT
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He hard wired a cord on it without reading the fucking instructions.
Link Posted: 8/29/2020 4:54:03 PM EDT
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This is the law of averages at work, for every person out there who is above average intelligence, there's a inversely proportional amount of dumbarses.
Link Posted: 8/29/2020 4:56:07 PM EDT
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I pulled the lower rear access panel where the connection block is, just to verify that the wires weren't connected in a seriously haphazard fashion, then I looked at the label to go on line to see if there was any troubleshooting info.

Thats when I saw the 12VDC label, and a quick part number web search brought up the
"Designed for use in RV, boat and solar homes" description.

I've not yet rolled my sleeves up for surgery yet.

I figured I'd be better served checking with The Hive, first.
Link Posted: 8/29/2020 4:58:40 PM EDT
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To the best of my knowledge - BIL has never been to NZL.
Have you been to Virginia?
From your post - you seem to have met him.
Link Posted: 8/29/2020 5:02:01 PM EDT
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Most 12v refrigerators use Peltier Effect cooling - solid state devices.
If he is REALLY lucky, there is a fuse in there which blew and when replaced everything will still work.

Most likely, he blew up the Peltier devices.

Open it up and take a look. There has to be a fuse I would think. Replace it, connect it to 12v and see if it works.
If it does, he can probably sell it for close to what he paid.

If not ...

In any case he will be needing to by a 120v fridge.
Link Posted: 8/29/2020 5:16:54 PM EDT
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Can you post a pic of the cord plug?  Who knew the 12v RV outlets looked the same?  It's kind of surprising you don't hear about this sort of thing more often.
Link Posted: 8/29/2020 5:19:15 PM EDT
[#14]
12v plugs blade @ 45*
Link Posted: 8/29/2020 5:46:38 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 8/29/2020 5:58:29 PM EDT
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Plot twist:  if its a 3-way RV fridge it has an electric heating element that drives the heat pump and I have no idea if he broke it.
Link Posted: 8/29/2020 6:33:10 PM EDT
[#17]
He let the smoke out.
Link Posted: 8/29/2020 6:36:01 PM EDT
[#18]
Bzzzzzzzt!
Link Posted: 8/29/2020 6:46:12 PM EDT
[#19]
Paging @drfrige
Link Posted: 8/29/2020 6:51:10 PM EDT
[#20]
Sounds like your BIL is as fucking stupid as mine is.
Link Posted: 8/29/2020 6:52:26 PM EDT
[#21]
What the fuck 12V fridge has any kind of cord or cable that can plug directly into a 120V outlet?
Link Posted: 8/29/2020 6:55:55 PM EDT
[#22]
Well, I can't say that I've ever thought, man...those fuckers put the wrong plug on this. Let me wire my own up!
Link Posted: 8/29/2020 6:56:06 PM EDT
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He hard wired a cord to the DC inputs then plugged into AC.

I don’t need no fucking manual!  Done derp cheap!  Herpy deeds, done derp cheap!
Link Posted: 8/29/2020 7:00:34 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 8/29/2020 7:02:59 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 8/29/2020 7:03:05 PM EDT
[#26]
12@120

Should have worked 10 time more better
Link Posted: 8/29/2020 7:04:48 PM EDT
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12, 120...whatever it takes
Link Posted: 8/29/2020 7:05:30 PM EDT
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He hard wired a cord to the DC inputs then plugged into AC.

I don’t need no fucking manual!  Done derp cheap!  Herpy deeds, done derp cheap!
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What the fuck 12V fridge has any kind of cord or cable that can plug directly into a 120V outlet?


He hard wired a cord to the DC inputs then plugged into AC.

I don’t need no fucking manual!  Done derp cheap!  Herpy deeds, done derp cheap!



Hahaha yeah... that could cause issues. I've had a couple campers, so I'm a bit familiar with the 3-way fridges. I've gotten into the back and observed that the two I owned had regular 120V AC power cables connected that were plugged into sockets in the camper. The 12V circuit was probably just a wire set connected to terminals.

I guess this is just another situation where ITDCCVSR.   (Inattention To Detail Can Cause Very Serious Repercussions)
Link Posted: 8/29/2020 7:09:47 PM EDT
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https://appliantology.org/uploads/monthly_2016_05/large.GE_GTS22JBPB_Refrigerator_Schematic.png.60946f512fc8b8285729f9f266d2a1be.png

Looks like the compressor is protected but nothing else.

looks like best case a pair of fans and worse case them and the lights on the inside.
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That looks like 120v.
Link Posted: 8/29/2020 7:11:47 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 8/29/2020 7:23:54 PM EDT
[#31]
I bet its fine, unless it has a fancy smart controller. Plug it into your car battery and fire it up.
Link Posted: 8/29/2020 7:31:31 PM EDT
[#32]
In on page 1
Link Posted: 8/29/2020 8:08:15 PM EDT
[#33]
Well, I'd suggest a new BIL.
Electronics are probably screwed.
Link Posted: 8/29/2020 8:52:40 PM EDT
[#34]
I bet that hertz
Link Posted: 8/29/2020 8:53:58 PM EDT
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How? Did he put a 120 plug on a 12v system???
Link Posted: 8/29/2020 9:12:02 PM EDT
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Looks like it.
Link Posted: 8/29/2020 9:21:15 PM EDT
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Did he catch all the magic smoke he let out? If so, it's fixable. If not, he's probably screwed.

Link Posted: 8/29/2020 9:28:30 PM EDT
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Did he catch all the magic smoke he let out? If so, it's fixable. If not, he's probably screwed.

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he also needs that ever difficult to find smoke put er inner machine that often costs more than just paying the stupid tax.
Link Posted: 8/29/2020 9:29:42 PM EDT
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Our camper runs on electricity, only 12volt for backup.
Link Posted: 8/29/2020 9:38:59 PM EDT
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IF he is lucky, there will be an inline fuse within the wiring of the unit

Seen this a few times in the UK where cheap EU contractors have tried to wire electrical devices directly to the 220-V mains, as unwrapping the supplied transformer wiring on the back of the unit was too much trouble..!!

Normally it was a case of replacing a blown fuse & adding a plug to the transformer part of the device to get it working
Link Posted: 8/29/2020 10:19:02 PM EDT
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He pulled out the previously installed GE fridge that was 120 volts, because it had quit (under warranty) and ordered a new one from GE.
They seem to have sent a 12VDC unit, and nobody checked the specs closely.
He took the 120 volt pigtail plug from the previous one and installed it where no cord was installed on the power block.

Bzzzzt.

I took out the circuit board and there are 4 blown caps on it, and I can't find any mention of a replacement with google using the numbers on the board, so he's going to have to fistfight GE over it on his own,

Thanks to everyone who read, and all who added info/comments/humor.

smdh....   XD

Link Posted: 8/29/2020 10:34:51 PM EDT
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Um, professor....
Link Posted: 8/29/2020 10:46:01 PM EDT
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He pulled out the previously installed GE fridge that was 120 volts, because it had quit (under warranty) and ordered a new one from GE.
They seem to have sent a 12VDC unit, and nobody checked the specs closely.
He took the 120 volt pigtail plug from the previous one and installed it where no cord was installed on the power block.

Bzzzzt.

I took out the circuit board and there are 4 blown caps on it, and I can't find any mention of a replacement with google using the numbers on the board, so he's going to have to fistfight GE over it on his own,

Thanks to everyone who read, and all who added info/comments/humor.

smdh....   XD

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If he ordered the right refrigerator, and they sent the wrong one.  I would pack it up call them and tell them they sent the wrong appliance please sent correct one.  I suppose he could tell them he tried to plug it in and that it was then that he noticed it was the incorrect refrigerator type and they should probably have a tech look it over when it gets back to them.

 
Link Posted: 8/29/2020 10:47:01 PM EDT
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Um, professor....
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Your camper converts AC to DC when on shore power, everything runs on DC all of the time.
Link Posted: 8/29/2020 10:48:18 PM EDT
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Not sure if he’s completely screwed

He’s definitely completely stupid

Holy shit



ETA

Sorry for beating the dead horse lol
Link Posted: 8/30/2020 12:19:26 AM EDT
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Not sure if he's completely screwed

He's definitely completely stupid

Holy shit



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Sorry for beating the dead horse lol
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Nah, I'm OK with it.
XD
Link Posted: 8/30/2020 12:53:41 AM EDT
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Watt?
Link Posted: 8/30/2020 1:03:03 AM EDT
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Almost all 12VDC equipment comes with some sort of fuse, fuseable link, or breaker.

Take off the most easily accessible panel on the back and take a look.  I'm betting there is something.
Link Posted: 8/30/2020 1:06:26 AM EDT
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He pulled out the previously installed GE fridge that was 120 volts, because it had quit (under warranty) and ordered a new one from GE.
They seem to have sent a 12VDC unit, and nobody checked the specs closely.
He took the 120 volt pigtail plug from the previous one and installed it where no cord was installed on the power block.

Bzzzzt.

I took out the circuit board and there are 4 blown caps on it, and I can't find any mention of a replacement with google using the numbers on the board, so he's going to have to fistfight GE over it on his own,

Thanks to everyone who read, and all who added info/comments/humor.

smdh....   XD

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Post a picture of these caps if you can.   Not because I don't believe you but because 'm interested.  
Link Posted: 8/30/2020 1:21:01 AM EDT
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It may or may not be repairable.

Even if it is fixed, it still doesn't solve the problem of needing a 120VAC fridge.  I would just buy a 120VAC fridge and be done.

I would say BIL could possibly repair it himself and save some money (then sell it), but how did he get into this mess in the first place?

ETA: Maybe GE will feel sorry for him.  
https://www.cnet.com/news/its-official-ge-appliances-belongs-to-haier/   LOL
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