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Posted: 8/29/2020 4:40:26 PM EDT
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BIL is a putz, who made a stupid mistake, and now he's going to have to argue the mistake with GE. He's a real estate agent who was fixing some issues with the unit he's selling for a client, and screwed up. Original post intact: Yes, my Brother in Law, not me. Brand new GE fridge, model gcv06gsnsb. He installed a 120 volt power cord to the power block, and plugged it into the wall. He was installing it in a condo he's selling, and not surprisingly, it didn't work. He brought it over today and asked if I could 'take a look at it'.... Well, the label on the back says 12VDC, 9 Amps. It didn't come with any kind of special plug or transformer, and I figure that's because it says on the web site it's "Designed for use in RV, boat and solar homes"... Is he completely screwed, or is there some kind of idiot fuse/circuit breaker inside that helps save assholes from themselves? I feel kinda bad for the guy, and told him so after I got done smirking. But I would kinda like to be a ray of sunshine in the bonehead's life regarding this. Help/advice? Disclaimer: Picture of idiot BIL supplied on request, but I dunno why anyone would care. Sister is a 60 yo diabetic with a heart condition, so you wouldn't care about her, either. |
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If he's lucky he blew up the input input circuit before the compressor.
But I've never heard of a 12 volt refrigerator, so there's no way I can tell you how to determine that. But it will cost less if that's the case. |
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Is there a fusible link or similar present?
Because if there is you probably need a new one. Also, tell him to never wire anything ever again for his own safety. |
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Take the covers off and look?
ETA: He's still going to need to buy a 120v AC fridge. |
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How? Did the 12V Fridge have 2 or 3 prong AC type plug?
Nevermind, Did not read the full post. |
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This is the law of averages at work, for every person out there who is above average intelligence, there's a inversely proportional amount of dumbarses.
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I pulled the lower rear access panel where the connection block is, just to verify that the wires weren't connected in a seriously haphazard fashion, then I looked at the label to go on line to see if there was any troubleshooting info.
Thats when I saw the 12VDC label, and a quick part number web search brought up the "Designed for use in RV, boat and solar homes" description. I've not yet rolled my sleeves up for surgery yet. I figured I'd be better served checking with The Hive, first. |
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Quoted: This is the law of averages at work, for every person out there who is above average intelligence, there's a inversely proportional amount of dumbarses. View Quote Have you been to Virginia? From your post - you seem to have met him. |
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Most 12v refrigerators use Peltier Effect cooling - solid state devices.
If he is REALLY lucky, there is a fuse in there which blew and when replaced everything will still work. Most likely, he blew up the Peltier devices. Open it up and take a look. There has to be a fuse I would think. Replace it, connect it to 12v and see if it works. If it does, he can probably sell it for close to what he paid. If not ... In any case he will be needing to by a 120v fridge. |
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Can you post a pic of the cord plug? Who knew the 12v RV outlets looked the same? It's kind of surprising you don't hear about this sort of thing more often.
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Plot twist: if its a 3-way RV fridge it has an electric heating element that drives the heat pump and I have no idea if he broke it.
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What the fuck 12V fridge has any kind of cord or cable that can plug directly into a 120V outlet?
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Well, I can't say that I've ever thought, man...those fuckers put the wrong plug on this. Let me wire my own up!
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99% chance that it's UL tested/approved/type accepted or the like.
So a fuse on the inside went piff. Sometimes they're cleverly built into the socket of the freezer. |
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Quoted: He hard wired a cord to the DC inputs then plugged into AC. I don’t need no fucking manual! Done derp cheap! Herpy deeds, done derp cheap! View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: What the fuck 12V fridge has any kind of cord or cable that can plug directly into a 120V outlet? He hard wired a cord to the DC inputs then plugged into AC. I don’t need no fucking manual! Done derp cheap! Herpy deeds, done derp cheap! Hahaha yeah... that could cause issues. I've had a couple campers, so I'm a bit familiar with the 3-way fridges. I've gotten into the back and observed that the two I owned had regular 120V AC power cables connected that were plugged into sockets in the camper. The 12V circuit was probably just a wire set connected to terminals. I guess this is just another situation where ITDCCVSR. (Inattention To Detail Can Cause Very Serious Repercussions) |
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Quoted: https://appliantology.org/uploads/monthly_2016_05/large.GE_GTS22JBPB_Refrigerator_Schematic.png.60946f512fc8b8285729f9f266d2a1be.png Looks like the compressor is protected but nothing else. looks like best case a pair of fans and worse case them and the lights on the inside. View Quote That looks like 120v. |
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I bet its fine, unless it has a fancy smart controller. Plug it into your car battery and fire it up.
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Well, I'd suggest a new BIL.
Electronics are probably screwed. |
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Did he catch all the magic smoke he let out? If so, it's fixable. If not, he's probably screwed.
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IF he is lucky, there will be an inline fuse within the wiring of the unit
Seen this a few times in the UK where cheap EU contractors have tried to wire electrical devices directly to the 220-V mains, as unwrapping the supplied transformer wiring on the back of the unit was too much trouble..!! Normally it was a case of replacing a blown fuse & adding a plug to the transformer part of the device to get it working |
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Quoted: How? Did he put a 120 plug on a 12v system??? View Quote They seem to have sent a 12VDC unit, and nobody checked the specs closely. He took the 120 volt pigtail plug from the previous one and installed it where no cord was installed on the power block. Bzzzzt. I took out the circuit board and there are 4 blown caps on it, and I can't find any mention of a replacement with google using the numbers on the board, so he's going to have to fistfight GE over it on his own, Thanks to everyone who read, and all who added info/comments/humor. smdh.... XD |
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Quoted: He pulled out the previously installed GE fridge that was 120 volts, because it had quit (under warranty) and ordered a new one from GE. They seem to have sent a 12VDC unit, and nobody checked the specs closely. He took the 120 volt pigtail plug from the previous one and installed it where no cord was installed on the power block. Bzzzzt. I took out the circuit board and there are 4 blown caps on it, and I can't find any mention of a replacement with google using the numbers on the board, so he's going to have to fistfight GE over it on his own, Thanks to everyone who read, and all who added info/comments/humor. smdh.... XD View Quote If he ordered the right refrigerator, and they sent the wrong one. I would pack it up call them and tell them they sent the wrong appliance please sent correct one. I suppose he could tell them he tried to plug it in and that it was then that he noticed it was the incorrect refrigerator type and they should probably have a tech look it over when it gets back to them. |
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Not sure if he’s completely screwed
He’s definitely completely stupid Holy shit ETA Sorry for beating the dead horse lol |
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Almost all 12VDC equipment comes with some sort of fuse, fuseable link, or breaker.
Take off the most easily accessible panel on the back and take a look. I'm betting there is something. |
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Quoted: He pulled out the previously installed GE fridge that was 120 volts, because it had quit (under warranty) and ordered a new one from GE. They seem to have sent a 12VDC unit, and nobody checked the specs closely. He took the 120 volt pigtail plug from the previous one and installed it where no cord was installed on the power block. Bzzzzt. I took out the circuit board and there are 4 blown caps on it, and I can't find any mention of a replacement with google using the numbers on the board, so he's going to have to fistfight GE over it on his own, Thanks to everyone who read, and all who added info/comments/humor. smdh.... XD View Quote Post a picture of these caps if you can. Not because I don't believe you but because 'm interested. |
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It may or may not be repairable.
Even if it is fixed, it still doesn't solve the problem of needing a 120VAC fridge. I would just buy a 120VAC fridge and be done. I would say BIL could possibly repair it himself and save some money (then sell it), but how did he get into this mess in the first place? ETA: Maybe GE will feel sorry for him. https://www.cnet.com/news/its-official-ge-appliances-belongs-to-haier/ LOL |
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