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Posted: 9/21/2022 8:41:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Besides the fact that my grandfather fought the Germans in the army and later fought the Germans in the resistance there is no such thing as generational transmission of guilt or virtue. And I would be fully in favor of executing any and all WWII traitors and enablers. The German American Bund was obviously un-American as it was litterally sponsored by Nazi Germany to infiltrate America and lead it away from the values in the consititution so dunno if the outrage is sarcasm or real. You brought up the American Bund- Nazi party for some reason to throw shit on the US. So what if they were sponsored, many places were sponsored by the Germans. The point I made is that it pales in comparison to what the Dutch did to their own people. As such I am puzzled why you would throw mud on the US contrasting nazis in the US where as your own nation has a disgusting shameful record on the war in comparison to the US which arguably helped free the entire world from fascism for awhile, while you are claiming some sort of weird high ground of morality, its odd  |
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Posted: 9/21/2022 8:41:27 PM EDT
[#2]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Aren't you a peach. A Californian that sides with a foreigner in that it's ok to call Americans turds. Plenty of Americans are turds tho. What's the problem? |
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Posted: 9/21/2022 8:54:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You brought up the American Bund- Nazi party for some reason to throw shit on the US. So what if they were sponsored, many places were sponsored by the Germans. The point I made is that it pales in comparison to what the Dutch did to their own people. As such I am puzzled why you would throw mud on the US contrasting nazis in the US where as your own nation has a disgusting shameful record on the war in comparison to the US which arguably helped free the entire world from fascism for awhile, while you are claiming some sort of weird high ground of morality, its odd Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Besides the fact that my grandfather fought the Germans in the army and later fought the Germans in the resistance there is no such thing as generational transmission of guilt or virtue. And I would be fully in favor of executing any and all WWII traitors and enablers. The German American Bund was obviously un-American as it was litterally sponsored by Nazi Germany to infiltrate America and lead it away from the values in the consititution so dunno if the outrage is sarcasm or real. You brought up the American Bund- Nazi party for some reason to throw shit on the US. So what if they were sponsored, many places were sponsored by the Germans. The point I made is that it pales in comparison to what the Dutch did to their own people. As such I am puzzled why you would throw mud on the US contrasting nazis in the US where as your own nation has a disgusting shameful record on the war in comparison to the US which arguably helped free the entire world from fascism for awhile, while you are claiming some sort of weird high ground of morality, its odd The point is that Russia is attempting the same infuence trick now with the right and some fall for it and others wil be just plain broken. There is no use complaining to me about the Dutch as my Dutch grandfather fought the best he could and lost 2 of his children to the German evil. He fucked off to Australia after the war to be as far away from Germany is humanly possible. Now I myself bitch about Dutch pacifism and the role of the Royals (pre WWII) and the Jewish Council in WWII to anybody that cares to listen and have even gotten some here to read up on it more. |
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Posted: 9/21/2022 9:41:05 PM EDT
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Edit:mistaken post.
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Posted: 9/21/2022 9:46:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: How the hell is any of this our problem? Really getting tired of my tax dollars going everywhere else but back to our own people. Like in the form of student loan forgiveness? I get the sentiment but I don't mind seeing my tax dollars used to hopefully get Putin out of office and weaken Russia. |
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Posted: 9/21/2022 10:01:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Russia is a threat to global security, proven my their repeated unprovoked wars of territorial annexation against their neighbors. Breaking Russia and causing the downfall of the current Russian government is in the best long term interests of the world. Russia has proven they will keep doing this until stopped. Yet we built the evil empire during lend lease. Shouldn’t have given them one truck, ration, bullet or gallon of gas. The German Army would have bled them white while we took Berlin. |
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Posted: 9/21/2022 10:05:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Didn't the WEF say they want a world war? Putin is working with the WEF trying to start ww3 When Biden comes to ban and take Ar15s, will you be a WEF stooge and fight and start ww3 or will you go against them and give up your rifles? |
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Posted: 9/21/2022 10:08:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: For all the Ukraine lovers, please take care my share of the tax burden, inflation, wealth destruction and fighting. I am not interested. You willing to take our burden of the anti-inflation bill and student loan repayment since that money is “being spent here”? |
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Posted: 9/21/2022 10:08:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: How the hell is any of this our problem? Really getting tired of my tax dollars going everywhere else but back to our own people. If it’s not our problem, stop worrying about. |
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Posted: 9/21/2022 10:10:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What’s your position on the quote above? Are you ok with foreigners calling Americans turds for our stance on US foreign policy? Quote HistoryQuoted: What’s your position on the quote above? Are you ok with foreigners calling Americans turds for our stance on US foreign policy? If the shoes fit, a turd name tag you shall not acquit Quoted: You think Ukraine would assist us if we got into it with China? Do you think any European country would? Kinda hard when they can't pay for heat and shipped all their most advanced weapons to the biggest black markets arms bazaar on the planet. Ukraine would if they were a nato member and China attacked us. Just the same as when nato, for the only time in its history, enacted article 5 and went to Afghanistan. Quoted: They are doing it for their own self interest and it is still a drop in the bucket. When they contribute to the US border security and protect Taiwan and the rest of the world maybe they can talk. Until then that argument doesn’t wash. This is a European problem, it requires a European solution. It’s a nato problem and requires a nato solution. We are apart of nato. |
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Posted: 9/21/2022 10:20:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yep, sickening that parts of Arfcom would prefere to align themselves with Russia/China/Iran/NORK/Syria. Just plain deluded or turds, and little different to the German-American Bund of years gone by (wel expect now they support a side with the stated goal of destroying the US). |
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Posted: 9/21/2022 10:46:30 PM EDT
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Russia invaded because the D team took over and put Biden in office.
All those who exploit every crisis will exploit the hell out of this as long as they can. |
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Posted: 9/21/2022 10:53:03 PM EDT
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Wouldn't Putin mooobilizing in this narrative be a prolongation?
I know, propaganda, but what shoddy stuff. |
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Posted: 9/22/2022 1:53:08 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yet we built the evil empire during lend lease. Shouldn’t have given them one truck, ration, bullet or gallon of gas. The German Army would have bled them white while we took Berlin. Quote HistoryQuoted: Yet we built the evil empire during lend lease. Shouldn’t have given them one truck, ration, bullet or gallon of gas. The German Army would have bled them white while we took Berlin. You know, I’m quite tired right now, but without giving too much thought to it, I can’t find fault with this post. The invasion of Europe by the Anglo-American forces would have had to have been launched sooner than 1944 though, otherwise they would have been facing the nearly full undivided attention of the Wehrmacht. Better tanks would have helped out tremendously too, otherwise the US had better or nearly equal small arms throughout the war, the same with aircraft. Quoted: Russia invaded because the D team took over and put Biden in office. All those who exploit every crisis will exploit the hell out of this as long as they can. They might have invaded if Trump had gotten a second term, we will never know. Putin grabbed Crimea and started trying to break more off Ukraine back in 2014, he’s wanted this for some time. All the while the Russians promote narratives keeping the left and right in the US at each other’s throats “hunter is involved in corruption in Ukraine along with his dad” “Trump is a Russian agent”. Ask yourself, no matter what grains of truth to those narratives there are, who without a doubt benefits from them? Ugh, I get too worked up over these things, Russia won’t be around all that much longer. |
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Posted: 9/22/2022 1:54:57 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yeah, NATO countries invaded Russia and started all of this.  Ukraine isn't in NATO. Everyone in NATO are little bitches who don't take the obligations seriously. Fuck em. |
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Posted: 9/22/2022 2:25:17 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Didn’t seem to bother you too much when the USA helped Albanians “take” Serbian land… The hypocrisy… Again, Russian are assholeS, Ukrainians are corrupt… Long sorry short. I don’t give a shit. Just like you don’t give a shit about Yemen or Armenia You really need to seek professional medical help if you came to that conclusion based on what I posted. |
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Posted: 9/22/2022 3:05:58 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Ukraine isn't in NATO. Everyone in NATO are little bitches who don't take the obligations seriously. Fuck em. Ukraine is fighting for nato right now. Russia doesn’t intend to stop at Ukraine. Your argument is false |
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Posted: 9/22/2022 3:15:54 AM EDT
[#18]
Quote HistoryQuoted: More than one thing can be true. Russia is at fault for invading Ukraine. Nato is wrong for seizing opportunity for proxy war. |
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Posted: 9/22/2022 3:45:16 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Aaron Mate?? WTF. Why don't you just post RT News, Tass, and Sputnik? CNN has entered the chat. |
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Posted: 9/22/2022 3:54:47 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Zelinsky's probably threatened to expose Biden and the rest of the DC cronies's corruption who were operating in Europe's Most Corrupt State. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: How the hell is any of this our problem? Really getting tired of my tax dollars going everywhere else but back to our own people. Zelinsky's probably threatened to expose Biden and the rest of the DC cronies's corruption who were operating in Europe's Most Corrupt State. He would be killed instantly. He's in on it, so no threats, just keep the juice flowing. |
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Posted: 9/22/2022 3:57:07 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Ha, good one. Remember when Russia initially invaded and there were actually dipshits in GD positing that "the Russians were going to uncover the dirt on Hunter"? Funny, but also sad at how many gullible tards there are. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: How the hell is any of this our problem? Really getting tired of my tax dollars going everywhere else but back to our own people. Zelinsky's probably threatened to expose Biden and the rest of the DC cronies's corruption who were operating in Europe's Most Corrupt State. Ha, good one. Remember when Russia initially invaded and there were actually dipshits in GD positing that "the Russians were going to uncover the dirt on Hunter"? Funny, but also sad at how many gullible tards there are. Why would we need Russia when we saw the fucking emails and his business partner confirmed it? It was all already buried. Or are you claiming there was (is) no kickback scheme between the Bidens and Ukraine? I can't imagine constantly posting every single CNN talking point, then trying to call someone else a gullible tard. |
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Posted: 9/22/2022 4:02:59 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Why would we need Russia when we saw the fucking emails and his business partner confirmed it? It was all already buried. Or are you claiming there was (is) no kickback scheme between the Bidens and Ukraine? I can't imagine constantly posting every single CNN talking point, then trying to call someone else a gullible tard. Who in Ukraine? |
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Posted: 9/22/2022 4:03:41 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You're right. NATO shouldn't be pursuing a proxy war. We should go all in and fight Russia ourselves rather than making Ukrainians die for us. Ukrainians are fighting to protect their nation and people. But I do agree, we should take direct action. |
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Posted: 9/22/2022 4:31:03 AM EDT
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Also OP: gun manufacturers prolong the war against gun violence by continuing to sell to civilians
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Posted: 9/22/2022 4:41:06 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Ukraine is fighting for nato right now. Russia doesn’t intend to stop at Ukraine. Your argument is false LOL.. russia can’t untuck themselves from corrupt Ukraine, but somehow they are a threat to the whole NATO and the west… My opinion ? Russia is a little tyrannical power, that didn’t want the west to meddle its close sphere of influence. The current regime NEEDS to appear strong on the Donbas and Ukraine issue to maintain itself. The west backed those fuckers into a corner and now there is war. Does that make Russia or Putin right in any way ? Nope. Does the current war serve the western PEOPLE interests in any way ? Nope. (Do I understand Ukrainian defending themselves ? Of course) Inflation, energy crisis and all…. But at least the usa doesn’t have to worry too much about that. For now |
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Posted: 9/22/2022 4:53:30 AM EDT
[#26]
Quote HistoryQuoted: How the hell is any of this our problem? Really getting tired of my tax dollars going everywhere else but back to our own people. This! |
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Posted: 9/22/2022 4:55:05 AM EDT
[#27]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Yeah, NATO countries invaded Russia and started all of this. No one cared about Crimea ??????? What changed? Oh, FJB |
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Posted: 9/22/2022 4:57:39 AM EDT
[#28]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Like in the form of student loan forgiveness? I get the sentiment but I don't mind seeing my tax dollars used to hopefully get Putin out of office and weaken Russia. I'd like to have American cities to have clean drinking water over some boomer masturbation fantasy about "The Reds", but here we are. Third world country while we shit out money to some corrupt state for a nebulous goal. |
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Posted: 9/22/2022 5:00:20 AM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I'd like to have American cities to have clean drinking water over some boomer masturbation fantasy about "The Reds", but here we are. Third world country while we shit out money to some corrupt state for a nebulous goal. You’re like the rest of the democrats that think drinking water is a federal responsibility. |
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Posted: 9/22/2022 8:46:14 AM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted: LOL.. russia can’t untuck themselves from corrupt Ukraine, but somehow they are a threat to the whole NATO and the west… Yes, they are. Russia had hell in 1941 with fighting Finland, but did that stop them from threatening the west for the next 50 years until they collapsed? My opinion ? Russia is a little tyrannical power, that didn’t want the west to meddle its close sphere of influence. The current regime NEEDS to appear strong on the Donbas and Ukraine issue to maintain itself. The west backed those fuckers into a corner and now there is war. Guess what, if Russia didn't try to genocide their neighbors they wouldn't try to leave their sphere of influence. What is the holodmor, again? Does that make Russia or Putin right in any way ? Nope. Does the current war serve the western PEOPLE interests in any way ? Nope. The war doesn't serve the people's interests at all. Only putin. That's why we need to end it. (Do I understand Ukrainian defending themselves ? Of course) Inflation, energy crisis and all…. But at least the usa doesn’t have to worry too much about that. For now We have a lot to worry about. But abandoning our allies isn't one of them. |
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Posted: 9/22/2022 9:30:12 AM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Sure, first give me your stimulus, any PPP funds and college forgiveness funds you may be getting. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: For all the Ukraine lovers, please take care my share of the tax burden, inflation, wealth destruction and fighting. I am not interested. I assure you, I am getting none of those. Tell you what. Take up a collection where people have to pay straight from their pocket for Ukraine. I know that you and all of the yellow/blue flag wavers won’t pay jack shit. It’s REAL easy for you to spend other peoples money. |
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Posted: 9/22/2022 9:34:54 AM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted: You willing to take our burden of the anti-inflation bill and student loan repayment since that money is “being spent here”? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: For all the Ukraine lovers, please take care my share of the tax burden, inflation, wealth destruction and fighting. I am not interested. You willing to take our burden of the anti-inflation bill and student loan repayment since that money is “being spent here”? Absolutely not. Please tell me more about how the past 30 yrs worth of proxy wars have benefited the USA? I am sure if we only spent more money it would turned out alright in Iraq, AFG, etc.. Why do you assume that not wanting to waste money in Ukraine means I want to waste money elsewhere? |
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Posted: 9/22/2022 9:43:04 AM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I knew what this was going to be before I even opened the link, and I had no idea who that was. The shills got their marching orders too. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Aaron Mate?? WTF. Why don't you just post RT News, Tass, and Sputnik? I knew what this was going to be before I even opened the link, and I had no idea who that was. The shills got their marching orders too. Ukraine or Russia shills? |
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Posted: 9/22/2022 9:53:01 AM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I'd like to have American cities to have clean drinking water over some boomer masturbation fantasy about "The Reds", but here we are. Third world country while we shit out money to some corrupt state for a nebulous goal. And what is that clean water infrastructure built on? Hopes and prayers? No it is built on the petro-dollar. That structure is literally being attacked by the russians and in proxy by the chinese. You are peddling your BS to some one with IQ in the 80's. |
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Posted: 9/22/2022 9:54:20 AM EDT
[#35]
NATO should go in now while Russia lost territory. I’m in for deterrence when you have the advantage. Not after Putin pushes in again. NATO should have put holes in all his tanks when they were all lined up in rows before they rolled in.
Yeah we can argue whether we should be there or not. But we let the enemy get to much gain when we could shut things down in a more advantageous way. |
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Posted: 9/22/2022 9:58:00 AM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: How the hell is any of this our problem? Really getting tired of my tax dollars going everywhere else but back to our own people. We could be friends. |
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Posted: 9/22/2022 10:00:03 AM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: We could be friends. We just passed an anti inflation act and are working on student loans, both of which are 30x the amount of aid to Ukraine, DONT worry! Tons of free cheese coming. |
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Posted: 9/22/2022 10:04:29 AM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I know that you and all of the yellow/blue flag wavers won't pay jack shit. It's REAL easy for you to spend other peoples money. Perhaps you would like to talk to the Ukrainian refugee living in my house right now, who hasn't seen her husband in 6 months, about the real cost and who isn't "paying jack shit" |
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Posted: 9/22/2022 10:09:04 AM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: And I assure you, this is not the case. Perhaps you would like to talk to the Ukrainian refugee living in my house right now, who hasn't seen her husband in 6 months, about the real cost and who isn't "paying jack shit" I got my paycheck and saw how much I’m paying. To keep a country free? Keep it going. A good use of tax Dollars. |
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Posted: 9/22/2022 10:30:18 AM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Is he calling all Americans turds or the Russian shills and useful idiots? I’m an American born and raised, what he said doesn’t offend me. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I think you should register yourself as a foreign agent with the arfcom staff. Why the fuck do you think you can call Americans turds when we express displeasure with the US sending billions to fund the war in Ukrain. Why don’t you spend less time talking shit about Americans and spend more time getting your country or EU memebers to pick up the tab. You don’t want to send billions to fund the war against Russia? Are you a communist sympathizer? Is he calling all Americans turds or the Russian shills and useful idiots? I’m an American born and raised, what he said doesn’t offend me. A 22er and from CA...and yet excellent response. |
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Posted: 9/22/2022 11:13:28 AM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: LOL.. russia can’t untuck themselves from corrupt Ukraine, but somehow they are a threat to the whole NATO and the west… My opinion ? Russia is a little tyrannical power, that didn’t want the west to meddle its close sphere of influence. The current regime NEEDS to appear strong on the Donbas and Ukraine issue to maintain itself. The west backed those fuckers into a corner and now there is war. Does that make Russia or Putin right in any way ? Nope. Does the current war serve the western PEOPLE interests in any way ? Nope. (Do I understand Ukrainian defending themselves ? Of course) Inflation, energy crisis and all…. But at least the usa doesn’t have to worry too much about that. For now Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Ukraine is fighting for nato right now. Russia doesn’t intend to stop at Ukraine. Your argument is false LOL.. russia can’t untuck themselves from corrupt Ukraine, but somehow they are a threat to the whole NATO and the west… My opinion ? Russia is a little tyrannical power, that didn’t want the west to meddle its close sphere of influence. The current regime NEEDS to appear strong on the Donbas and Ukraine issue to maintain itself. The west backed those fuckers into a corner and now there is war. Does that make Russia or Putin right in any way ? Nope. Does the current war serve the western PEOPLE interests in any way ? Nope. (Do I understand Ukrainian defending themselves ? Of course) Inflation, energy crisis and all…. But at least the usa doesn’t have to worry too much about that. For now This is bullshit and only there to excuse Russian aggression. At no point was Russia forced to invade Ukraine either in 14 or this year. Completely on them. |
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Posted: 9/22/2022 11:15:28 AM EDT
[#42]
Lol.
It’s all nato’s fault. Anymore more news you want to cite from the Putin News Network. |
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Posted: 9/22/2022 11:16:10 AM EDT
[#43]
This was the point all along. Brzezinski’s “traps”
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Posted: 9/22/2022 11:16:43 AM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryQuoted: This is bullshit and only there to excuse Russian aggression. At no point was Russia forced to invade Ukraine either in 14 or this year. Completely on them. I think I Ukrainian picked on him when he was little or something. He seems to have a lot of opinions on Ukraine for a chocolate peddling knock off mountain german. |
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Posted: 9/22/2022 11:48:02 AM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Lol. It’s all nato’s fault. Anymore more news you want to cite from the Putin News Network. 
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Posted: 9/22/2022 11:52:15 AM EDT
[#46]
Man, the strategy of the Left is alive and well in this and many other threads on ARFCOM, anymore.
Critical of election procedures or outcome and you’re immediately labeled an antigovernment insurrectionist. Critical of NATO or the effects of sanctions against Russia and you’re immediately labeled a Russian stooge who’s also undermining American policy. Make no mistake, their hatred is real. These people would and will rabidly support freezing bank accounts and even the imprisonment of anyone critical of Ukraine. |
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Posted: 9/22/2022 12:36:09 PM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Man, the strategy of the Left is alive and well in this and many other threads on ARFCOM, anymore. Critical of election procedures or outcome and you’re immediately labeled an antigovernment insurrectionist. Critical of NATO or the effects of sanctions against Russia and you’re immediately labeled a Russian stooge who’s also undermining American policy. Make no mistake, their hatred is real. These people would and will rabidly support freezing bank accounts and even the imprisonment of anyone critical of Ukraine. I have a question for you. Is the United States of America located in magical pink cotton candy land or planet earth? |
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Posted: 9/22/2022 1:15:58 PM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryQuoted: We have a lot to worry about. But abandoning our allies isn't one of them. I think I have found why we disagree. You think Russia today is the same thing as the Soviet Union 70 years ago… |
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Posted: 9/22/2022 1:17:48 PM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I think I have found why we disagree. You think Russia today is the same thing as the Soviet Union 70 years ago… Its not the same but it does have the same goals. They want to see America destroyed and turn the countries around them into slave states/colonies. They have openly said this multiple times. |
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Posted: 9/22/2022 1:19:20 PM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I think I Ukrainian picked on him when he was little or something. He seems to have a lot of opinions on Ukraine for a chocolate peddling knock off mountain german. Retards resorting to personal attacks are just that. Retards. |
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