[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Toyota Tundra and Lexus LX600 Engine replacement recall 100,000+ units (Page 5 of 8)
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Quoted: My nieces fiancé has a 2024 Tundra and she said the best she can do is 18 MPG. I was getting 17 with my 2019 Tundra with the 5.7L engine. So all I this bullshit design changes for 1 MPG I am a Toyota man but they missed the boat on this one. A lot of the EPA bullshit is related to particulates and such…..ie - how clean does it burn. The 2.4T uses about the same amount of fuel as the 3.5 it replaces, but apparently has much “cleaner” exhaust (even if it’s the same “quantity” of exhaust), and that’s what the EPA is requiring now. Sucks don’t it?? Elections and appointees have consequences… The EPA will never be happy though…so… In before the EPA’s “Miles per Kilowatt/hour” mandates and the inevitable |
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Quoted: Nah emissions made them leave metal shavings in the engines. Just ask all the Toyota fan boys. And BTW every Ranger I have owned which is 3 now have all gone over 300,000 miles and one over 400,000 miles with basic maintenence. I had a 7.3 diesel with over 500,000 on it the new owner is still driving it to my knowledge. All Ford products and not a single one needed a frame replacement unlike many Toyota trucks. It's really not that great of a feat, any modern fuel injected engine should last into the 300,000 mile range. Ford’s camphasers enter the chat… |
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Quoted: Oh, you keep digging the hole.  https://readysetrev.com/vehicles-that-had-the-4l60e-transmission |
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I obviously don't understand the financials.... but it is mind boggling to me how a company can even survive the costs of replacing 100k V8 engines, 150k side curtain airbags, 50k door switches, 280k ECU flashes, 380k axle nut services, 1 million occupant sensors. Parts, labor costs, and potentially loaner/rental vehicle costs, not to mention legal/lawsuit/liability costs. And that is just on vehicles in the past 4 years. I find it incredible they can cover these costs. They must bake in a significant amount of re-work expense into the sales price of every single vehicle. |
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Quoted: My 2016 Tundra needs both front wheel bearings replaced. Currently awaiting parts. It has 65,000 miles on it. 3 months ago I had a front steel wheel rust all the way through leaking air. I have 2 x 2008 honda civics with steel wheels, no issues. I have a 2005 Pontiac Vibe with steel wheels, no issues. Toyota must be using crappy steel again. 2005 Pontiac vibe…oh, you mean a Toyota Matrix? |
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Quoted: I obviously don't understand the financials.... but it is mind boggling to me how a company can even survive the costs of replacing 100k V8 engines, 150k side curtain airbags, 50k door switches, 280k ECU flashes, 380k axle nut services, 1 million occupant sensors. Parts, labor costs, and potentially loaner/rental vehicle costs, not to mention legal/lawsuit/liability costs. And that is just on vehicles in the past 4 years. I find it incredible they can cover these costs. They must bake in a significant amount of re-work expense into the sales price of every single vehicle. |
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Quoted: Oh, you keep digging the hole. Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: No they are not. I’d have thousands more dollars to my net worth if GM didn’t build crap transmissions. Our trucks ate 4l60s & 4l80s. 6l90s aren’t much better. Every GM I’ve owned has crapped a trans at low miles. Well maintained and all. Ok so abused by some guy out in the field doing who knows what to a truck that isn’t his. Not to mention the 4L60E hasn’t been built in about 2 decades, but you’ve got all these fleet 4L60Es in service.  Found the Chevy zealot. Somebody has to balance out the bullshit that gets posted here. Like your "2 decades" comment? The 6L80E came out in 2005, 19 years ago. But you knew that didn’t you professor? https://www.novak-adapt.com/knowledge/transmissions/automatic/6l80/ Oh, you keep digging the hole. No digging here. 6L80E made its way into the Silverado in 2009. So only 15 years ago professor. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GM_6L_transmission |
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Quoted: 2005 Pontiac vibe oh, you mean a Toyota Matrix? Quoted: Quoted: My 2016 Tundra needs both front wheel bearings replaced. Currently awaiting parts. It has 65,000 miles on it. 3 months ago I had a front steel wheel rust all the way through leaking air. I have 2 x 2008 honda civics with steel wheels, no issues. I have a 2005 Pontiac Vibe with steel wheels, no issues. Toyota must be using crappy steel again. 2005 Pontiac vibe oh, you mean a Toyota Matrix? They were built at different facilities, with different subcontractors/suppliers. Vibe and Japanese export Voltz at NUMMI, Fremont, California Matrix at TMMC, Ontario Canada. Attached File Voltz But Toyota does that often across the globe without quality issues. It's just weird that the Japanese market Voltz were built at the GM partner plant with Pontiac styling cues. But it was easier getting them on the boat. |
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Quoted: Who would have thought. It's hard to make an engine that is compliant to todays government regulations, while making enough power to be competitive and capable, all while operating on occasionally questionable fuel with bad labor availability and DEI engineers! Oh yes. It's government mandates that are causing main bearing failures. Toyota fanboys are hilarious. |
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Quoted: I disagree on the Tundra. Yes, it's a great truck, current generation engine issues aside, but sales volume tells you it does NOT shit all over everyone else. The big 3 count GSA sales in their total number sold. The number of F250s and 2500's we left in Iraq is more than the number of Tundras sold in the US...I don't actually know that for a fact  but they all counted towards their sales numbers |
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Quoted: Most Toyota failures I’ve seen are from gov mandates. Soy insulation, asbestos disallowed in head gaskets, elevated egr temps, afterthought DRLs, smaller displacement due to luxury tax or mileage requirements and now water thin oil. Bahaha! So toyota is too fucking stupid to design a functional head gasket without asbestos? Laughable. |
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Quoted: Hybrid. They are impacted but they weren't recalled due to a lower concern about unsafe failure - ie insta-lock. The i-Force MAX Tundra, Seqouia have seen failures. Almost certain they will be recalled or programmed as soon as the Tundra and LX are supplied. There's been reports of J300 (GCC market) and LS 500 failures as well, from similar production dates the recall bracketed. Be interesting to see how those are covered. Quoted: Quoted: Wouldn't the Sequoia be impacted by this too? Hybrid. They are impacted but they weren't recalled due to a lower concern about unsafe failure - ie insta-lock. The i-Force MAX Tundra, Seqouia have seen failures. Almost certain they will be recalled or programmed as soon as the Tundra and LX are supplied. There's been reports of J300 (GCC market) and LS 500 failures as well, from similar production dates the recall bracketed. Be interesting to see how those are covered. Thanks |
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Quoted: No digging here. 6L80E made its way into the Silverado in 2009. So only 15 years ago professor. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GM_6L_transmission Attached File Attached File It's common knowledge, but you can also pick the dates out yourself. Other autos were in GM inventory while the 4L60E was still in use, they didn't supplant fully until 2015. Sierra and Vans were the last to use. I was happy to see them go. |
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Quoted: https://i.ibb.co/56BGwWK/IMG-6738.webp I own (1) Toyota and (1) Lexus… ‘04 Tacoma @ 450k ‘06 LX470 @ 300k Both still run great and have the original engine and transmission. Neither have ever needed anything beyond preventative maintenance and replacement of wear items. The current Toyota issues are a product of government regulation more than anything else. Toyota’s last two production v8 engines for full-size vehicles (4.7 2UZ and 5.7 3UR) are arguably the two best V8 engines ever produced in terms of reliability and longevity. Thank government regulation for forcing Toyota to replace them with high stress turbo engines. You cannot defeat the laws of physics. Quoted: Quoted: Toyota never was what their fan boys made them out to be. https://i.ibb.co/56BGwWK/IMG-6738.webp I own (1) Toyota and (1) Lexus… ‘04 Tacoma @ 450k ‘06 LX470 @ 300k Both still run great and have the original engine and transmission. Neither have ever needed anything beyond preventative maintenance and replacement of wear items. The current Toyota issues are a product of government regulation more than anything else. Toyota’s last two production v8 engines for full-size vehicles (4.7 2UZ and 5.7 3UR) are arguably the two best V8 engines ever produced in terms of reliability and longevity. Thank government regulation for forcing Toyota to replace them with high stress turbo engines. You cannot defeat the laws of physics. Do Toyotas have issues like every other car company? Yes. They just have less. Want something that will pin you in your seat like a Raptor, but want more repairs, generally? I respect that. I want something I can just change the oil on and it’ll go 300k. |
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Quoted: I obviously don't understand the financials.... but it is mind boggling to me how a company can even survive the costs of replacing 100k V8 engines, 150k side curtain airbags, 50k door switches, 280k ECU flashes, 380k axle nut services, 1 million occupant sensors. Parts, labor costs, and potentially loaner/rental vehicle costs, not to mention legal/lawsuit/liability costs. And that is just on vehicles in the past 4 years. I find it incredible they can cover these costs. They must bake in a significant amount of re-work expense into the sales price of every single vehicle. I'm Wondering Who got fired for this multi billion dollar disaster. |
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Toyota, unlike GM, Ford and Dodge is being proactive instead of reactive. This is the difference. I know for a fact and from experience GM would've said nothing and acted surprised when 100,000 engines came apart. GM carries their engineering defects over into new model years. |
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Quoted: What have you owned since? I've had Honda civics, one brand new one used. Zero issues with them. Had Hyundai Elantras before the sienna, zero issues. Have a Kia Telluride now, no real issues other than a few minor recalls. The only one that was a disappointment was the Toyota. |
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Quoted: Toyota, unlike GM, Ford and Dodge is being proactive instead of reactive. This is the difference. I know for a fact and from experience GM would've said nothing and acted surprised when 100,000 engines came apart. GM carries their engineering defects over into new model years. Lol. My 2013 Prius eats enough oil that I have a catch can installed so I can drain it off before it plugs the EGR cooler. The oil rings were updated for 2014 production and existing owners were told oil consumption was normal. Apparently so are plugged EGR coolers. In 2022 Toyota settled a class action Lawsuit over failing inverters and IPMs. This involved putting up 20 million for replacement when they fail and a 20 year Warrenty extension. They didn't do that out of the goodness in thier hearts it was just cheaper than getting there ass handed to them in court. |
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Quoted: No shit. I can't throw a fucking rock on my farm without hitting a 250k mile plus gm 1500 or 2500 pickup. Toyota fanboys are hilarious. Quoted: Quoted: Somehow my GM vehicles work just fine. Enjoy the Kool-Aid with your rice. No shit. I can't throw a fucking rock on my farm without hitting a 250k mile plus gm 1500 or 2500 pickup. Toyota fanboys are hilarious. Attached File |
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Quoted: If we're gonna use Wikipedia, let's use the right info https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/14291/IMG_2466_jpeg-3277731.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/14291/IMG_2465_jpeg-3277732.JPG It's common knowledge, but you can also pick the dates out yourself. Other autos were in GM inventory while the 4L60E was still in use, they didn't supplant fully until 2015. Sierra and Vans were the last to use. I was happy to see them go. Quoted: Quoted: No digging here. 6L80E made its way into the Silverado in 2009. So only 15 years ago professor. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GM_6L_transmission https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/14291/IMG_2466_jpeg-3277731.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/14291/IMG_2465_jpeg-3277732.JPG It's common knowledge, but you can also pick the dates out yourself. Other autos were in GM inventory while the 4L60E was still in use, they didn't supplant fully until 2015. Sierra and Vans were the last to use. I was happy to see them go. Ok so the 4L60E was being phased out as soon as 2005 and the 6L80E appearing in the Silverado and Sierra later in roughly ‘09. Not too far of a stretch from when I said the 4L60E ended two decades ago. The fact is those transmissions were made in the millions, and if properly maintained they worked fine. Like I said I had two high mileage examples. |
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Chevy, Buick, and Mini are ahead of Subaru and Honda? Do Chevy, Buick, and Mini owners not report problems? Or are they just unaware? |
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Quoted: Chevy, Buick, and Mini are ahead of Subaru and Honda? Do Chevy, Buick, and Mini owners not report problems? Or are they just unaware? Quoted: Chevy, Buick, and Mini are ahead of Subaru and Honda? Do Chevy, Buick, and Mini owners not report problems? Or are they just unaware? Lesbaru owners are too busy bumping fuzzies in the back and toasting to Kamala to worry about what doesn’t work on their car. |
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Quoted: I've had Honda civics, one brand new one used. Zero issues with them. Had Hyundai Elantras before the sienna, zero issues. Have a Kia Telluride now, no real issues other than a few minor recalls. The only one that was a disappointment was the Toyota. Quoted: Quoted: What have you owned since? I've had Honda civics, one brand new one used. Zero issues with them. Had Hyundai Elantras before the sienna, zero issues. Have a Kia Telluride now, no real issues other than a few minor recalls. The only one that was a disappointment was the Toyota. I'll be interested in how you feel about your Telluride. We looked at Telluride (and my wife really liked it for looks), it was a top contender to the 2025 Pilot we ultimately purchased, but there were too many mechanics reviews that said "no". We keep cars for 10-15 years. It is really hard to guess which ones will last. My uncle had a Toyota Previa, then a Sienna for 12-13 years each, back to back. He also owned a Prius during that time. His were all outstanding. |
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Quoted: Ok so the 4L60E was being phased out as soon as 2005 and the 6L80E appearing in the Silverado and Sierra later in roughly ‘09. Not too far of a stretch from when I said the 4L60E ended two decades ago. No, it wasn't. It continued at the primary transmission for the specific engines it was paired with on the two most popular GM trucks, until 2012-2013. A man admits when he was wrong. Let's see what you will do? |
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Quoted: Lexus has sold 7 LSs, all were sold to retirees, none have exceeded 55 MPH, and none have made it to the first oil change yet.  Lexus builds about 2500-3000ish LS units in the US. Rumor has it, the new ES is very "LS vibe". Sedans are a small portion of sales for most manufactures as more consumers prefer crossovers and SUVs. Nevertheless the LS is slightly dated but it's a fantastic flagship sedan for the brand. |
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Quoted: No, it wasn't. It continued at the primary transmission for the specific engines it was paired with on the two most popular GM trucks, until 2012-2013. A man admits when he was wrong. Let's see what you will do? Quoted: Quoted: Ok so the 4L60E was being phased out as soon as 2005 and the 6L80E appearing in the Silverado and Sierra later in roughly ‘09. Not too far of a stretch from when I said the 4L60E ended two decades ago. No, it wasn't. It continued at the primary transmission for the specific engines it was paired with on the two most popular GM trucks, until 2012-2013. A man admits when he was wrong. Let's see what you will do? You are correct Captain. Congratulations. The 4L60E went on and has only been gone for one decade instead of two. But none of what you said makes the 4L60E the awful transmission that GD loves to say is a hand grenade. There are millions of those transmissions out on the road today. I’m driving one right now that’s 25 years old and it works fine. Fuck Toyota, Fuck Japan right in their butthole. |
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Quoted: A man admits when he was wrong. Let's see what you will do? Quoted: A man admits when he was wrong. Let's see what you will do? Quoted: You are correct Captain. Congratulations. The 4L60E went on and has only been gone for one decade instead of two.  Quoted: Fuck Toyota, Fuck Japan right in their butthole. No need to project your butt sex stuff. We are talking about transmissions. But not those kind of transmissions. |
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Quoted: Factory 4l60e is rated at 360 ft lbs. Most Silverados are rated between 340-380 ftlbs....so a trans that already at the limit from the factory is a recipe for disaster, which the 4l60e is Quoted: Quoted: 4L60E is hot garbage… That’s the biggest homer take in this thread. Factory 4l60e is rated at 360 ft lbs. Most Silverados are rated between 340-380 ftlbs....so a trans that already at the limit from the factory is a recipe for disaster, which the 4l60e is 360 is very generous for the 4l60. V6s and lighter platforms still trash those transmissions. |
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Quoted: Ok so the 4L60E was being phased out as soon as 2005 and the 6L80E appearing in the Silverado and Sierra later in roughly '09. Not too far of a stretch from when I said the 4L60E ended two decades ago. The fact is those transmissions were made in the millions, and if properly maintained they worked fine. Like I said I had two high mileage examples. Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: No digging here. 6L80E made its way into the Silverado in 2009. So only 15 years ago professor. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GM_6L_transmission https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/14291/IMG_2466_jpeg-3277731.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/14291/IMG_2465_jpeg-3277732.JPG It's common knowledge, but you can also pick the dates out yourself. Other autos were in GM inventory while the 4L60E was still in use, they didn't supplant fully until 2015. Sierra and Vans were the last to use. I was happy to see them go. Ok so the 4L60E was being phased out as soon as 2005 and the 6L80E appearing in the Silverado and Sierra later in roughly '09. Not too far of a stretch from when I said the 4L60E ended two decades ago. The fact is those transmissions were made in the millions, and if properly maintained they worked fine. Like I said I had two high mileage examples. Make a bunch of snarky authoritatives, demonstrably wrong, don't get bent when it's demonstrated. |
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Quoted: I always liked the Toyota Vibe. Probably the most reliable Pontiac in decades. Quoted: Quoted: My 2016 Tundra needs both front wheel bearings replaced. Currently awaiting parts. It has 65,000 miles on it. 3 months ago I had a front steel wheel rust all the way through leaking air. I have 2 x 2008 honda civics with steel wheels, no issues. I have a 2005 Pontiac Vibe with steel wheels, no issues. Toyota must be using crappy steel again. I always liked the Toyota Vibe. Probably the most reliable Pontiac in decades. Quoted: 2005 Pontiac vibe…oh, you mean a Toyota Matrix? This It's a Corolla wagon with a Delco HVAC system. I've liked them so much that I'm on my third one. The best part is you can buy them used for $1000-2000 less than a same year/condition Matrix because they have an icky Pontiac badge on them Holy shit, that's funny. Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: My 2016 Tundra needs both front wheel bearings replaced. Currently awaiting parts. It has 65,000 miles on it. 3 months ago I had a front steel wheel rust all the way through leaking air. I have 2 x 2008 honda civics with steel wheels, no issues. I have a 2005 Pontiac Vibe with steel wheels, no issues. Toyota must be using crappy steel again. 2005 Pontiac vibe oh, you mean a Toyota Matrix? They were built at different facilities, with different subcontractors/suppliers. Vibe and Japanese export Voltz at NUMMI, Fremont, California Matrix at TMMC, Ontario Canada. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/14291/IMG_2464_jpeg-3277690.JPG Voltz But Toyota does that often across the globe without quality issues. It's just weird that the Japanese market Voltz were built at the GM partner plant with Pontiac styling cues. But it was easier getting them on the boat. Quoted: Quoted: Vibe and Japanese export Voltz at NUMMI, Fremont, California That's a shit show for a whole other thread right there. While I completely agree that NUMMI was a disaster, they seemed closer to getting it right towards the end, at least with the Vibe. There are issues that exist but most of those are cosmetic and overall they are solid, long-lasting vehicles especially for what their price point was.. |
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Quoted: This It's a Corolla wagon with a Delco HVAC system. I've liked them so much that I'm on my third one. The best part is you can buy them used for $1000-2000 less than a same year/condition Matrix because they have an icky Pontiac badge on them Holy shit, that's funny. While I completely agree that NUMMI was a disaster, they seemed closer to getting it right towards the end, at least with the Vibe. There are issues that exist but most of those are cosmetic and overall they are solid, long-lasting vehicles especially for what their price point was.. Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: My 2016 Tundra needs both front wheel bearings replaced. Currently awaiting parts. It has 65,000 miles on it. 3 months ago I had a front steel wheel rust all the way through leaking air. I have 2 x 2008 honda civics with steel wheels, no issues. I have a 2005 Pontiac Vibe with steel wheels, no issues. Toyota must be using crappy steel again. I always liked the Toyota Vibe. Probably the most reliable Pontiac in decades. Quoted: 2005 Pontiac vibe oh, you mean a Toyota Matrix? This It's a Corolla wagon with a Delco HVAC system. I've liked them so much that I'm on my third one. The best part is you can buy them used for $1000-2000 less than a same year/condition Matrix because they have an icky Pontiac badge on them Holy shit, that's funny. Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: My 2016 Tundra needs both front wheel bearings replaced. Currently awaiting parts. It has 65,000 miles on it. 3 months ago I had a front steel wheel rust all the way through leaking air. I have 2 x 2008 honda civics with steel wheels, no issues. I have a 2005 Pontiac Vibe with steel wheels, no issues. Toyota must be using crappy steel again. 2005 Pontiac vibe oh, you mean a Toyota Matrix? They were built at different facilities, with different subcontractors/suppliers. Vibe and Japanese export Voltz at NUMMI, Fremont, California Matrix at TMMC, Ontario Canada. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/14291/IMG_2464_jpeg-3277690.JPG Voltz But Toyota does that often across the globe without quality issues. It's just weird that the Japanese market Voltz were built at the GM partner plant with Pontiac styling cues. But it was easier getting them on the boat. Quoted: Quoted: Vibe and Japanese export Voltz at NUMMI, Fremont, California That's a shit show for a whole other thread right there. While I completely agree that NUMMI was a disaster, they seemed closer to getting it right towards the end, at least with the Vibe. There are issues that exist but most of those are cosmetic and overall they are solid, long-lasting vehicles especially for what their price point was.. Mike Bafan, who was integral at NUMMI on the GM side, learned much and left with Toyota. He pretty much single handedly took TMMBC from an over-spill assembler to 3 shifts and most all of the Double Cab Tacos late production, without so much as a hiccup. With, uncharacteristically for Toyota, little automation. Ive always thought highly of him. I'm a little disappointed at the Taco launch issues, but until I see Mike leave, I'll assume the issues are progressing towards solution. |
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Quoted: before the recall rumor has it Quoted: Quoted: Inside or outside the production dates of the recall? before the recall rumor has it Thanks man. I've heard the rumors, I've been scouring for some objective info. So far, none. Which make me lean towards production and not design. The GCC indications I have so far don't fall outside much either. |
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Quoted: They are but gov intervention is what it boils down to. Gov wants certain mpg’s so they had to stray away from what they knew to new tech. I mean the 4.0 was going on 20 years since it came out and the v8’s too. Lol, that argument is like "new bullet tech made 9mm equal to 45/10mm/40". Only if you don't use same new bullets in those bog boy calibers. Gov. mandates fucked all automakers equally, not just Toyota. They don't suffer from union shithead build quality.....yet. |
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I have a feeling the majority of the failures have already happened. That's just my opinion. The only reason this is getting as much press and AirPlay, as it is is because Toyota is typically such a stand out in the game. If this was one the other manufactures, they would've never admitted a problem and just tried limp dicking their way through it for a lot of years. Instead, Toyota comes out and says well we have a problem boom there's this many vehicles affected. We need some time to figure it out and everybody gasps. Then they really pony up and says new engines for everybody, and 102k of them so far and counting. Now everybody points fingers and says it's junk. If it was GM or Ford they would've just not done anything about it and acted like nothing was happening. It shouldn't have ever happened obviously, but shit happens. Another guy I work with that is a former 6.0 Ford owner was talking about how the new tundra is junk because of the recall. I said dude you gotta stop right there. We gotta have an honest conversation about this. All of the years and years and years of bullshit with 6.0, and they never addressed the problem. Their address of the problem was placing a bigger hunk of shit of an engine in the truck... What I find interesting is the people that don't even have a V35A in their stable seem to be the ones most concerned about this. Only thing I would do different is maybe a hybrid V35A. There's a bunch of of them around here and there's yet to one go down. However, is was kind of bullshit of Toyota to push the hybrid product up higher in trim. I really wanted one in an SR5. Hard to push new boundaries without breaking some eggs. Nobody seems to consider the fact that the V35A is an entirely new territory for power density in a gasoline production vehicle. |
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It just goes to show that no one is exempt from some bad engineering or assembly. I know they've seen a lot of use in motorsport but I've never really been a big fan of the hot vee turbo setup, at least as far as packaging/serviceability is concerned. I rode in a coworker's 1794 edition Tundra with the new V6 and it felt very underwhelming. Very noisy and the power delivery was very poor/inconsistent, almost like a turbo lag feeling. The only comparison I have are Ecoboost F-150s and their acceleration feels much smoother and more linear than the Toyota. |
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Im on my 3rd toyota in 30 years. First 2 were used. My current 2022 4runner has a small rust spot forming on the roof. Not a chip. From under the paint. Waiting for toyotas response after dealer inspected it. That sucks. Built during corvid. They did replace my cracked 2005 dashboard in 2015 or so due to a extended "warranty" something. My 91 pickup with 22RE engine has shitty timing chain quality. I replaced twice, First time mechanic did it. Used plastic guides that break and chain rattles. Second time did it myself using DOA kit. Sold it with 150k and 20 years old. I have no desire for current GDI and GDI hybrid engines. The 4th gen 4runner was my ideal level. My 4runner may be my last. I aint selling it. |
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Quoted: Another guy I work with that is a former 6.0 Ford owner was talking about how the new tundra is junk because of the recall. I said dude you gotta stop right there. We gotta have an honest conversation about this. All of the years and years and years of bullshit with 6.0, and they never addressed the problem. Their address of the problem was placing a bigger hunk of shit of an engine in the truck... My opinion is most of their problems were owner inflicted, but Ford didn't help matters either. The best 6.0 liters were stock trucks with the EGR removed that were obsessively maintained and worked hard regularly towing and hauling things. The vast majority of them though were city slicker daily drivers that idled a ton and didn't always get up to full temp so the EGR and the turbos would start carboning up, or they were owned by people who wanted the truck to do silly things like belch tons of black smoke and spin all four tires on 37s from a roll so they put tuners and big exhausts and such on them which started lifting the heads off the blocks. A lot of average dudes with diesel pickups also wasn't really about that life of replacing fuel filters and draining water separators regularly either. In an International application, the VT365 only made about 230 hp, they were 300 horse engines in a Ford pickup. This was probably around the start of the light duty diesel pickup horsepower wars that continue to this day. 300 hp is too much for a 6.0 liter with less displacement and fewer head bolts than a 7.3/T444, and it didn't help that you could install a tune in 15 minutes and pick up even more power. Engines started coming apart and all of a sudden the 6.0 liter Powerstroke is a piece of shit. I think it was actually an okay engine when operated and maintained correctly. |