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Link Posted: 5/14/2022 6:40:49 AM EDT
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Bloodthirsty...  glide bomb ready for target
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He was right and it worked. What did he do wrong?
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A guy I shot with was in the guard.

He said on field exercises they gave him an M-60 and he always climbed a tree with it.

He said 'No one ever looks up."


Wow, just wow... guy played too many video games. And holy shit, his leadership should have been fired on the spot for letting him do that. The National Guard for ya...



He was right and it worked. What did he do wrong?
In a nutshell, he trapped himself with no cover.
Link Posted: 5/14/2022 7:03:38 AM EDT
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Amazing to me that the Russians aren’t jamming all that
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Russians aren't even encrypting their comms, their radio game isn't exactly crushing it
Link Posted: 5/14/2022 7:22:54 AM EDT
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this is scary

what this means for the future of warfare is haunting
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Countermeasures. Smaller, more mobile ADA tech will likely be similar to the various forms of electronic IED countermeasures. It is pretty disconcerting though. This is also why all our bases in Afghanistan had radar and no-fly-drone restrictions.

I suspect Infantry platoons in the futures will have mini air-to-air attack drones to counter...put those damn video game kids to work!

ROCK6
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Nice!
Link Posted: 5/14/2022 7:24:06 AM EDT
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Adding a 26" shotgun loaded with #4 to my SHTF kit
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To shoot drones? #4 game shot or buck?
Link Posted: 5/14/2022 7:24:38 AM EDT
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It warms my heart to see commies die. It’s better for the earth, no CO2 generation and promotes fertilization of plants.
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It warms my heart to see commies die. It’s better for the earth, no CO2 generation and promotes fertilization of plants.
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Sadly, we have more commies in American than Russia...
Link Posted: 5/14/2022 7:29:04 AM EDT
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I guess one guy survived and the other didn't.
Link Posted: 5/14/2022 7:29:43 AM EDT
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So the drone pulled the bomb out of the sack, gave it a 1, 2, 3, and dropped it?

Looks fake….
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Link Posted: 5/14/2022 7:31:27 AM EDT
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To shoot drones? #4 game shot or buck?
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To shoot drones? #4 game shot or buck?


Double ought drone.
Link Posted: 5/14/2022 7:32:16 AM EDT
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There's a YouTube video, that appears to be real, where a drone operator lets a whole firing line worth of guys have shots at his drone as he flys it back-n-forth across the berm. Nobody hits the drone with the hundreds of shots at it. A shotgun will be best and depending on the size of the drone turkey shot ought to be more than enough. The body of the done is tiny but a badly damaged propeller is bad news fast for a drone.

At 300 feet in the air my tiny DJI Mavic sounds like a swarm of bees. In the quiet of the countryside I can here it whirling away up there when it's above me. If I fly it off even 500 feet to the side the noise gets very hard to hear and even the bugs and bird chatter hide the noise of the drone. There are purpose built "quite" propellers that I fly with and they help. The other odd thing is that among the trees it's hard to pin-point even a stationary drone hovering above. The leaves and beaches of the trees do a good job of hiding a drone and baffle the noise very well.
Link Posted: 5/14/2022 7:32:54 AM EDT
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Countermeasures. Smaller, more mobile ADA tech will likely be similar to the various forms of electronic IED countermeasures. It is pretty disconcerting though. This is also why all our bases in Afghanistan had radar and no-fly-drone restrictions.

I suspect Infantry platoons in the futures will have mini air-to-air attack drones to counter...put those damn video game kids to work!

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Countermeasures. Smaller, more mobile ADA tech will likely be similar to the various forms of electronic IED countermeasures. It is pretty disconcerting though. This is also why all our bases in Afghanistan had radar and no-fly-drone restrictions.

I suspect Infantry platoons in the futures will have mini air-to-air attack drones to counter...put those damn video game kids to work!

ROCK6


Fill the air with lead shot
Link Posted: 5/14/2022 7:33:59 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 5/14/2022 7:34:57 AM EDT
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There's gotta be an easy way to calculate the height of the drone by the time of fall, but I don't know what it is.
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Distance = 1/2 * a * t2

a = acceleration of gravity = 32.2 ft/sec2

(Ignoring non-trivial things like drag)
Link Posted: 5/14/2022 7:35:20 AM EDT
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There's gotta be an easy way to calculate the height of the drone by the time of fall, but I don't know what it is.
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9.8 meters per second squared
Link Posted: 5/14/2022 7:39:54 AM EDT
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This
Link Posted: 5/14/2022 7:41:57 AM EDT
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this is scary

what this means for the future of warfare is haunting


Countermeasures. Smaller, more mobile ADA tech will likely be similar to the various forms of electronic IED countermeasures. It is pretty disconcerting though. This is also why all our bases in Afghanistan had radar and no-fly-drone restrictions.

I suspect Infantry platoons in the futures will have mini air-to-air attack drones to counter...put those damn video game kids to work!

ROCK6


Fill the air with lead shot

3 1/2" magnum Goose loads were made for this sort of thing.
Link Posted: 5/14/2022 7:59:26 AM EDT
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You wouldn’t even come close.. Those drones are way out of shotgun range..
Link Posted: 5/14/2022 8:05:13 AM EDT
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Could you explain why you think it is fake? I am curious.
Link Posted: 5/14/2022 8:05:18 AM EDT
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It is sad to see white Christians killing other white Christians, would celebrate if it was Hajis or Mongoloids.
Link Posted: 5/14/2022 8:11:12 AM EDT
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It is sad to see white Christians killing other white Christians, would celebrate if it was Hajis or Mongoloids.
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Well if the one sides "white Christians" would have stayed in their own "white Christian" country they wouldn't be getting blown the fuck up.
Link Posted: 5/14/2022 8:11:46 AM EDT
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Commies are technically atheists.
Link Posted: 5/14/2022 8:12:15 AM EDT
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I’d like to know what kind of commercial drone can carry that payload, and what the mechanism is for releasing it.
Link Posted: 5/14/2022 8:13:27 AM EDT
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Seems a very high intensity green laser would be an excellent piece of kit on a modern Battlefield.
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Link Posted: 5/14/2022 8:23:50 AM EDT
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Ascertain the height from which the object fell. Multiply the height by the object's acceleration due to gravity. The acceleration due to gravity is 32.2 ft/s^2 for English units, or 9.8 m/s^2 for SI units. If you drop an object from 15 feet, for example, you would multiply 15 ft * 32.2 ft/s^2 to get 483 ft^2/s^2.

Multiply the result by 2. For example, 483 ft^2/s^2 * 2 = 966 ft^2/s^2.



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If you drop an object from 15 feet, it won't reach 482 fps.

https://www.omnicalculator.com/physics/free-fall

This is a cool calculator. Says for (arbitrary because I didn't time the vid)5 second fall, altitude was about 400ft.
Link Posted: 5/14/2022 8:24:03 AM EDT
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People really should think before they open their mouths

If you've got the ammo, I've got the drone. Blast away while the rest of us laugh...my drones have come home safe from the same offers extended to my LEO classes...with a lot of discouraged know-it-alls
Link Posted: 5/14/2022 8:26:44 AM EDT
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Oh God, stop it...laughing so hard it hurts

Yall reall dont have a fucking clue, do you?

"I ain't afraid of no booger-man hiding under my bed. I'll blast it with my Buck Rogers space ranger ray gun!"
Link Posted: 5/14/2022 8:28:11 AM EDT
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A guy I shot with was in the guard.

He said on field exercises they gave him an M-60 and he always climbed a tree with it.

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Shoot, climb, communicate.  Gunfighting 101
Link Posted: 5/14/2022 8:31:04 AM EDT
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You wouldn’t even come close.. Those drones are way out of shotgun range..
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Maybe not the drone but the grenade would be.
VOG-30 5” long by 1.1” wide
Clay pigeon 4” diameter

Im surprised no one has made a mini iron dome yet.

Link Posted: 5/14/2022 8:33:20 AM EDT
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Brings a whole new meaning to "death from above".
Link Posted: 5/14/2022 8:33:39 AM EDT
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Oh God, stop it...laughing so hard it hurts

Yall reall dont have a fucking clue, do you?

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What's the range of birdshot?   How far away are the drones?  Serious question I don't own a drone and have never shots skeet or gone bird hunting.
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Maybe not the drone but the grenade would be.
VOG-30 5” long by 1.1” wide
Clay pigeon 4” diameter

Im surprised no one has made a mini iron dome yet.

https://www.thedrive.com/content-b/message-editor/1595456731916-smashhopper_.jpg?quality=60
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You wouldn’t even come close.. Those drones are way out of shotgun range..


Maybe not the drone but the grenade would be.
VOG-30 5” long by 1.1” wide
Clay pigeon 4” diameter

Im surprised no one has made a mini iron dome yet.

https://www.thedrive.com/content-b/message-editor/1595456731916-smashhopper_.jpg?quality=60

What's the lead on something moving 100fps and increasing, at varying range, and taking into account the slowing velocity of your shot?

I'm not sure Rainman can do that math on the fly.
Link Posted: 5/14/2022 8:44:42 AM EDT
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Oh God, stop it...laughing so hard it hurts

Yall reall dont have a fucking clue, do you?

"I ain't afraid of no booger-man hiding under my bed. I'll blast it with my Buck Rogers space ranger ray gun!"
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3 1/2" magnum Goose loads were made for this sort of thing.



Oh God, stop it...laughing so hard it hurts

Yall reall dont have a fucking clue, do you?

"I ain't afraid of no booger-man hiding under my bed. I'll blast it with my Buck Rogers space ranger ray gun!"

It was a joke.  I've shot at enough birds to know the range.

The drone operator would have to be dumb enough to fly low as hell.
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What's the range of birdshot?   How far away are the drones?  Serious question I don't own a drone and have never shots skeet or gone bird hunting.
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Oh God, stop it...laughing so hard it hurts

Yall reall dont have a fucking clue, do you?

"I ain't afraid of no booger-man hiding under my bed. I'll blast it with my Buck Rogers space ranger ray gun!"



What's the range of birdshot?   How far away are the drones?  Serious question I don't own a drone and have never shots skeet or gone bird hunting.

#7.5 will bounce off of you at 100 yards. Btdt.

#4 BUCK will not penetrate a jean jacket at 75 yards. Tested it. Besides, at that distance the pattern is too open to hope to be effective against a drone.

The boy's drone gets to 1k feet quick. But you're sacrificing accuracy. It has an "R" circuit or something like that. An RC switch that he can operate a solenoid or other stuff on a 5v circuit, iirc.

Drones are the shit for lots of stuff. They are here to stay and are getting more and more capable.
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What's the range of birdshot?   How far away are the drones?  Serious question I don't own a drone and have never shots skeet or gone bird hunting.
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Oh God, stop it...laughing so hard it hurts

Yall reall dont have a fucking clue, do you?

"I ain't afraid of no booger-man hiding under my bed. I'll blast it with my Buck Rogers space ranger ray gun!"



What's the range of birdshot?   How far away are the drones?  Serious question I don't own a drone and have never shots skeet or gone bird hunting.


50 meters on a good day.

You can go to your local store and buy a drone that has a ceiling of 500 meters.
Link Posted: 5/14/2022 8:54:06 AM EDT
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I dont think this is real footage. Looked like a clip from a videogame, not even a good videogame.

The stride of the two men fleeing looks fake.
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Commies are technically atheists.
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Commies are technically atheists.


Technically, the Russians aren’t Communists anymore.
Link Posted: 5/14/2022 8:56:48 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 5/14/2022 8:57:53 AM EDT
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expand to full screen and watch you all will see what I mean. This is a fake video.
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Technically, the Russians aren’t Communists anymore.
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Commies are technically atheists.


Technically, the Russians aren’t Communists anymore.



They were flying Sickle and Hammer Red flags on their tanks during the invasion. I think technically they still are commies.
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Oh, it's a real video, alright.

But it's computer generated, likely for a video game, I think.

But, there are other vids that are real, so, if someone doesn't look close (guilty) it looks real enough at first watch.
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After being in a region in Iraq that, for a while anyway, was heavily mortared and rocketed I eventually realized that it didn't matter what I did.  If it was my time to get exploded it was my time.
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Combat is like that - options were to go went left, right, or stay. Soldier went right and most likely died. Soldier went left an lived. Both could have stayed and made it. It was an immediate decision that has eternal results.   anyway, 75% of the casualties I'm seeing could be avoided with camo screens, overhead cover, and discipline.


After being in a region in Iraq that, for a while anyway, was heavily mortared and rocketed I eventually realized that it didn't matter what I did.  If it was my time to get exploded it was my time.



I cannot remember who said it but to be effective at our trade “you have to accept the fact that you're already dead. “
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They can barely keep fuel in their trucks and food. You think they are going to have a "jammer" for every two guys in a random trench?
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I cannot remember who said it but to be effective at our trade “you have to accept the fact that you're already dead. “
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Combat is like that - options were to go went left, right, or stay. Soldier went right and most likely died. Soldier went left an lived. Both could have stayed and made it. It was an immediate decision that has eternal results.   anyway, 75% of the casualties I'm seeing could be avoided with camo screens, overhead cover, and discipline.


After being in a region in Iraq that, for a while anyway, was heavily mortared and rocketed I eventually realized that it didn't matter what I did.  If it was my time to get exploded it was my time.



I cannot remember who said it but to be effective at our trade “you have to accept the fact that you're already dead. “

There was a good exchange in Band of Brothers about that.

"You're afraid because you still think you're going home"
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