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5/17/2017 11:40:10 PM EDT
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Quoted:  I thought that background pattern looked familiar, thought it was from the Luis Vutton handbag cake, but must have been another of your photos.  

Unless somebody else here has equally bad taste in tablecloths...
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I'm turning you over to higher authority...  @FW_wife  
5/17/2017 11:49:44 PM EDT
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Quoted:  Clean shiny molds  I used to do a lot of chocolate work.
That chocolate isn't in temper is what's wrong.
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I think you're right.  I don't think I even got it over 100 degrees.

Even the messy pieces were delicious, though, and the mold cleaned up right well in hot water.

I'm thinking of - well I was thinking of something, until FW_wife showed me quotes by some of the dumbest people who speak bad English.

Will post the demolding pics tomorrow.

ETA:  Was thinking of putting in some popsicle sticks to help w/ the demolding, but sounds like I need to concentrate on my temperature.
5/17/2017 11:53:31 PM EDT
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Quoted:  This seems like should be a LOT easier than OP is making it out to be!
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Have you forgotten my above ground pool nightmare thread?  
5/17/2017 11:59:18 PM EDT
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Quoted:  This seems like should be a LOT easier than OP is making it out to be!
Have you forgotten my above ground pool nightmare thread?  
I'm just waiting to see photos of a solid chocolate lower, and you somehow managing to melt the mold at the same time. 

Or pulling it off.  Both are good options.
5/18/2017 12:02:40 AM EDT
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Quoted:  I'm just waiting to see photos of a solid chocolate lower, and you somehow managing to melt the mold at the same time. 

Or pulling it off.  Both are good options.
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Oh fuck, son, no.  That mold was $350.  And I bought it just before the wedding.  I'll live if I don't have a chocolate lower atop my groom's cake, but please to god I don't melt the mold.
5/18/2017 12:04:49 AM EDT
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It's not just about bringing it up to a certain temp 
This is how I used to do it http://www.cacao-barry.com/en-OC/chocolate-recipe/technique/tempering/work-surface
But here is another guide on seeding http://blog.kingarthurflour.com/2014/01/31/a-basic-guide-to-tempering-chocolate/
Two things the degrees really matter.. a few under or over and it wont work and I've never worked with big chunks of out of temper chocolate but my guess would be it isn't making this any easier.
Unless you're really keen on getting this right i'd just buy the coating chocolate I posted before 
I'd help ya out if ya lived closer!
5/18/2017 12:22:46 AM EDT
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Quoted:  It's not just about bringing it up to a certain temp 
This is how I used to do it http://www.cacao-barry.com/en-OC/chocolate-recipe/technique/tempering/work-surface
But here is another guide on seeding http://blog.kingarthurflour.com/2014/01/31/a-basic-guide-to-tempering-chocolate/
Two things the degrees really matter.. a few under or over and it wont work and I've never worked with big chunks of out of temper chocolate but my guess would be it isn't making this any easier.
Unless you're really keen on getting this right i'd just buy the coating chocolate I posted before 
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Yeah, I'm not buying $65 of chocolate for this.  I'd go buy another $15, if it would help.  Should I just buy some giant Hershey's chocolate bars?

I'll read up on your links tomorrow, though.  Thanks.
5/18/2017 12:27:18 AM EDT
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Yeah, I'm not buying $65 of chocolate for this.  I'd go buy another $15, if it would help.  Should I just buy some giant Hershey's chocolate bars?

I'll read up on your links tomorrow, though.  Thanks.
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I'd buy some Ghirardelli/decent dark chocolate for baking if all I have is the normal super market
5/18/2017 9:55:08 AM EDT
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Yeah, FW_wife likes milk chocolate.  She's an American gal, she doesn't go for that dark Youropeein' stuff.
5/18/2017 11:09:16 PM EDT
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Eh, dark chocolate is acceptable with the right wine

BB naively thought it would be simple - melt chocolate to liquidy state, pour into mold, cool/freeze 'til solid, pop out of mold and enjoy!

I'm just staying back, watching the show. As long as the mess is contained...
5/18/2017 11:35:30 PM EDT
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Chocolate can be a bear to work with...

Check this out seems like it might fit the bill I use their fondue chocolate and it is always perfect


https://www.chocoley.com/chocolate/gourmet-compound-chocolate/
5/18/2017 11:46:25 PM EDT
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Quoted:  Chocolate can be a bear to work with...

Check this out seems like it might fit the bill I use their fondue chocolate and it is always perfect

https://www.chocoley.com/chocolate/gourmet-compound-chocolate/
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That's a reasonable price.  How is it that it doesn't require temper?

@FW_wife.  Won't let you have any then.  

The Sinister and I will eat it all!  
5/24/2017 8:15:16 PM EDT
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Some pics.  Was able to pour w/o a syringe - meant to get one from the farm store over by my LGS - but the ring's not finished yet, so haven't been over there.  Poured fine.  May have gotten it too warm in the microwave - we'll find out.

Getting ready to paint the molds w/ vegetable oil:

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Painting:

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Bolting the mold together:

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Tightening a nut:

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Put it in a large zip lock, then wrapped the ziplock in white duct tape, as I'm doing a "forging" here, w/ no magwell, no FCS pocket, no detent channels:

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I should note here, unless otherwise credited, most pics taken by the Sinister.
5/24/2017 8:19:46 PM EDT
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Chopping chocolate for seeding (note - don't use a ceramic knife to chop chunks of chocolate - the blade is delicate, chocolate is strong like bull):

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Pouring the seeds into the funnel set in the buffer tube boss:

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Going down:

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Dust in the mold:

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5/24/2017 8:24:23 PM EDT
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Will it blend?  (Not very well, until you get it down to smaller chunks, then it starts to melt)

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The microwave did the trick, however.  Did 30 seconds, then 10, then 15 - I was over 100 degrees & climbing:

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It's a delicious blender, let me tell you, but a pain to clean - it's tough to get your tongue down to those blades:

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Bout ready to pour:

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5/24/2017 8:26:49 PM EDT
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Probably need 2 full cups for a complete "forging", but this will do:

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Over 100 degrees it pours well through the buffer tube boss.  Probably could've poured through the fill hole (rear web indentation) if I had to:

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Better shot by FW_wife:

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Getting the last melted chocolate out w/ a spoon:

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There it sits.  2nd plastic bag is to prevent any water from entering.  Will let it cool slowly (no, I didn't heat the mold), bang it in the freezer tonight, we'll see about getting it out once I pick up the wedding ring from the gun shop tomorrow.

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5/24/2017 8:34:08 PM EDT
[#17]
Not reading through the thread, but are you tempering the chocolate?
5/24/2017 8:38:02 PM EDT
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That was the idea, this time.  Heated it up hopefully over 104 degrees, now letting it cool before slamming it in the freezer.  Who knew chocolate was such a pain?
5/24/2017 8:57:44 PM EDT
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Things are looking promising!!!
5/24/2017 9:09:46 PM EDT
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5/24/2017 9:12:01 PM EDT
[#21]
19 days to pour some chocolate into a mold?
5/24/2017 9:12:08 PM EDT
[#22]
Waiting for the moulds to be pulled apart.  
5/24/2017 9:29:11 PM EDT
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1. Melt chopped bittersweet or semisweet chocolate in a clean, dry bowl set over simmering water, to about 115º-120º F (46º-49ºC.)

2. Remove from heat and let it cool to the low 80ºs F (27ºC.)

3. Drop a good-sized chunk of solid (tempered) chocolate in, which provides insurance by ‘seeding’ the melted chocolate with good beta crystals. While cooling, stir frequently. Motion equals good crystallization, aka, tempering.

4. The last step is the most important: Bring the chocolate up to the perfect temperature, which occurs in most dark chocolates between 88° and 91° F (31º-32ºC.) Do this by placing the bowl over a pan of barely simmering water for a few seconds, stirring it, then removing it from the heat, and checking the temperature. It will usually take a few tries but as it gets close, it might need just 1 or 2 seconds to reach the right temperature.

Note: Don’t let the melted chocolate rise above 91° F (32ºC) or you’ll have to begin the process all over again.

(Milk chocolate tempers at 86º-88ºF, 30º-31ºC. Please note that chocolates can vary, so check with manufacturer if unsure about your particular chocolate.)

4. Remove what’s left of the chunk of ‘seed’ chocolate, and your chocolate is dip-worthy: you can dip all the chocolates you want and all will be perfectly tempered.
5/24/2017 9:33:15 PM EDT
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Go on - beat me:  http://ar15mold.com/freedom-15-5-kit  
5/24/2017 10:05:56 PM EDT
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Quoted:  1. Melt chopped bittersweet or semisweet chocolate in a clean, dry bowl set over simmering water, to about 115º-120º F (46º-49ºC.)

2. Remove from heat and let it cool to the low 80ºs F (27ºC.)

3. Drop a good-sized chunk of solid (tempered) chocolate in, which provides insurance by ‘seeding’ the melted chocolate with good beta crystals. While cooling, stir frequently. Motion equals good crystallization, aka, tempering.

4. The last step is the most important: Bring the chocolate up to the perfect temperature, which occurs in most dark chocolates between 88° and 91° F (31º-32ºC.) Do this by placing the bowl over a pan of barely simmering water for a few seconds, stirring it, then removing it from the heat, and checking the temperature. It will usually take a few tries but as it gets close, it might need just 1 or 2 seconds to reach the right temperature.

Note: Don’t let the melted chocolate rise above 91° F (32ºC) or you’ll have to begin the process all over again.

(Milk chocolate tempers at 86º-88ºF, 30º-31ºC. Please note that chocolates can vary, so check with manufacturer if unsure about your particular chocolate.)

4. Remove what’s left of the chunk of ‘seed’ chocolate, and your chocolate is dip-worthy: you can dip all the chocolates you want and all will be perfectly tempered.
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There are several methods of tempering.  I seeded the mold w/ chopped pieces of chocolate.  I'm using milk chocolate, so in one of the links here, says get it up over 106 degrees F.  I think I considerably cleared that the last 10 seconds in the microwave.  Think I'll just leave it in the mold overnight on the kitchen counter, throw it in the freezer in the morning.  I'll try pulling it out after dinner tomorrow night.  Picking up the ring after work.
5/24/2017 10:17:16 PM EDT
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I hope you made enough for everyone.







5/24/2017 10:18:00 PM EDT
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All right!  
5/24/2017 10:25:57 PM EDT
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* Pending BATFE approval.  
5/24/2017 10:42:17 PM EDT
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Probably need 2 full cups for a complete "forging", but this will do:

http://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/84655/20170524-174445-215834.JPG

Over 100 degrees it pours well through the buffer tube boss.  Probably could've poured through the fill hole (rear web indentation) if I had to:

http://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/84655/20170524-175002-215835.JPG

Better shot by FW_wife:

http://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/84655/20170524-175025-215836.JPG

Getting the last melted chocolate out w/ a spoon:

http://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/84655/20170524-175110-215837.JPG

There it sits.  2nd plastic bag is to prevent any water from entering.  Will let it cool slowly (no, I didn't heat the mold), bang it in the freezer tonight, we'll see about getting it out once I pick up the wedding ring from the gun shop tomorrow.

http://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/84655/20170524-180521-215838.JPG
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Picking up the wedding ring from the gun shop? I think Jeff would approve.

I swear every time I check this thread, I get the urge to go out and buy as much chocolate as my store has in stock.
5/24/2017 10:44:35 PM EDT
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You kidding?
I've subscribed to this thread from day One.

I'm stoked to see how they turn out, and the suspense is killing me!
5/25/2017 1:00:54 AM EDT
[#31]
You know you want a mold.  And if you use Task21, instead of their hyper expensive stuff, it's like $6 a lower.

Hence my soon letter to our evil overlords about not engaging in business if I give away $6 lowers.
5/25/2017 8:11:12 AM EDT
[#32]
Following this guy's advice...
5/25/2017 8:20:45 AM EDT
[#33]
Is it done yet?
5/25/2017 8:26:17 AM EDT
[#34]
Should be.  Left it out overnight, so it should be hard.  Threw it in the freezer for extra, will see if I can demold it this evening after dinner.  Got work & have to pick up the ring 1st.
5/25/2017 8:31:45 AM EDT
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Is the wedding tomorrow?  Can't believe how time flies.
5/25/2017 9:52:35 AM EDT
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Hope not.  Been waiting a LONG time for a bachelor party.
5/25/2017 10:33:03 AM EDT
[#37]
You had better get this figured out pretty soon or you will have to get different pants and your bride will have to get her dress altered. :)

Great idea/story by the way!
5/25/2017 10:52:05 AM EDT
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That's a reasonable price.  How is it that it doesn't require temper?

@FW_wife.  Won't let you have any then.  

The Sinister and I will eat it all!  
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Magic?  Its a compound chocolate designed for molding is all I know.  I know their fondue chocolate took all the problems out of fountain chocolate away compared to other brnds and melting butter/cream/oil etc.
5/25/2017 7:07:37 PM EDT
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From Trinity Ordnance.
5/25/2017 7:39:42 PM EDT
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Hence my soon letter to our evil overlords about not engaging in business if I give away $6 lowers.
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They've already made known their position.  It's manufacturing.  They don't care if you're making a profit.
5/25/2017 8:05:21 PM EDT
[#41]
in!
5/25/2017 10:03:34 PM EDT
[#42]
Have you broke the mold from last night yet?
5/25/2017 10:08:20 PM EDT
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she didnt go to Barrett?
5/25/2017 10:10:38 PM EDT
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A gas block for a ring? Thats badass
5/25/2017 11:17:52 PM EDT
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Yup...until it gets caught on something and fucks your finger up really good. 
5/25/2017 11:58:28 PM EDT
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She's worth a finger.  Which brings up inappropriate wedding music - a particularly bad rendition, best viewed upside down:

I Gave Her The Ring, She Gave Me The Finger


So - no demolding tonight.  Fatalwishes' folks arrived & took us to dinner, and then it was time for the Sinister to hit the hay.  So after school tomorrow, looks like.  Sorry to disappoint.
5/25/2017 11:59:45 PM EDT
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You made FW_wife chuckle w/ that one.
5/26/2017 12:06:15 AM EDT
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FW_wife saw a shotgun bbl ring on Duck Dynasty, so we started trying to figger out what gauge or what choke.  Finally got my ring finger sized again, and this time came up w/ .75".

It rattled around in my brain for a minute until I realized something else was also .75".

She nixed the Picatinny rails and the bayonet lug, but let me stick to the gas block idea.  

Trinity Ordnance knocked it out for us, but due to the schedule, it's only cold blued for now.  Will get it hot blued down the road.
5/26/2017 12:33:27 AM EDT
[#49]
Titanium
5/26/2017 12:42:43 AM EDT
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Steel should work fine.  Periodically, we'll reblue it @ home or get it reblued.

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