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Link Posted: 12/17/2016 11:04:04 AM EDT
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The worst I've sort of seen was a suicide-by-freight train.

The ambulance crew that was with the body for about 6 hours showed up at the emergency room to have the idiot declared dead. It's not often you see EMTs absolutely pasty white and looking like they threw up 3 or 4 times.

I was a paramedic in training at the time and the ER doc who went out to pronounce took me with him.

We let into the ambulance to find a misshapen body bag lying on the gurney. The doc slams his hand down on it and there was no reaction. He turned and looked at me and said "8:10. If you're fucking ghoul go ahead and open it up."

I passed.
Link Posted: 12/17/2016 1:28:08 PM EDT
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Not to be gruesome, but what happened to the guy?
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No idea. She never brought his location/rehab/situation up again. I was always just concerned with her.

She was more that done with him after the event. Real shitter was they lost their 11 year old boy to cancer about 10 years prior.

They were both actively involved with charity stuff for kids with cancer. Just a shitty deal all the way around in the end.
Link Posted: 12/17/2016 1:41:32 PM EDT
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The worst I've sort of seen was a suicide-by-freight train.

The ambulance crew that was with the body for about 6 hours showed up at the emergency room to have the idiot declared dead. It's not often you see EMTs absolutely pasty white and looking like they threw up 3 or 4 times.

I was a paramedic in training at the time and the ER doc who went out to pronounce took me with him.

We let into the ambulance to find a misshapen body bag lying on the gurney. The doc slams his hand down on it and there was no reaction. He turned and looked at me and said "8:10. If you're fucking ghoul go ahead and open it up."

I passed.
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My friends daughter killed herself the same way after she was raped. She was not a idiot.
Link Posted: 12/17/2016 1:53:10 PM EDT
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Boy. It's a good thing we don't allow people a dignified way of ending their life if they choose to. Someone could make a mistake. <img src=http://www.ar15.com/images/smilies/icon_smile_angry.gif border=0 align=middle>
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Yes, dignified for young and mentally ill. Some idea.
Link Posted: 12/17/2016 2:26:22 PM EDT
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I used to shoot at an indoor range in Escondido, Ca in the late 90's.
It was a converted warehouse.

There was a pretty good amount of space from the range lanes to the clear bench, at least 15 feet or so.

The floor was carpeted, for some strange reason there were 8 different colored patches of carpet.

One afternoon I went to the range to do some shooting and it was closed.
The next day I read in the paper that someone had committed suicide at the range.

The next time I went shooting at the range there were 9 different colored patches in the carpet.  

Link Posted: 12/17/2016 2:33:53 PM EDT
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I'm pretty sure if that happened at my local indoor range the range office would have drawn and opened fire on her.
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That was always my plan when I RO'd.  I always had a plan to kill every single person while working there.
Link Posted: 12/17/2016 2:36:32 PM EDT
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Did she at least get her CCL?
Link Posted: 12/17/2016 2:43:34 PM EDT
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How is SHE doing now?
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My cousin tried 3 times.  Twice with pills and once with a 45. Point blank in the crest with a 45. Poor shot placement is the only reason that he is still here.  Not the same, but still here.  
His daughter found him every time.  Talk about devastated.


How is SHE doing now?


The last attempt was almost 6 years ago.  I was busy with my dad's death which occurred within days of my cousin's suicide attempt so I wasn't really there for my cousin's kid like I normally would have been.  To this day she doesn't talk to me much.  Almost like she blames somehow. Christmas Eve is always tense because another cousin has a huge open house and everyone shows up for it.  You can tell that everyone tries to pretend he never did it (and no one EVER talked about it) but the tension is there between my cousin's daughter and everyone else.
ETA: A cousin that works for me and myself collected over $500 from our family to give to her right after this happened because money got tight very quickly. She was early 20's back then and not making much.  It's funny how you try to help and they still shit on you. It is what it is and I tried my best.
Link Posted: 12/17/2016 2:45:06 PM EDT
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No idea. She never brought his location/rehab/situation up again. I was always just concerned with her.

She was more that done with him after the event. Real shitter was they lost their 11 year old boy to cancer about 10 years prior.

They were both actively involved with charity stuff for kids with cancer. Just a shitty deal all the way around in the end.
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Definitely a bad situation where she was absolutely the victim.

So many times when a couple lose a child, divorce seems to be almost a certainty in the aftermath. Too bad this deal just didn't just amount to that level of bad ending.

I guess I have a morbid curiosity about the rehab of someone with traumatic injury like this guys. How do they survive?
Link Posted: 12/17/2016 2:50:36 PM EDT
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The worst I've sort of seen was a suicide-by-freight train.

The ambulance crew that was with the body for about 6 hours showed up at the emergency room to have the idiot declared dead. It's not often you see EMTs absolutely pasty white and looking like they threw up 3 or 4 times.

I was a paramedic in training at the time and the ER doc who went out to pronounce took me with him.

We let into the ambulance to find a misshapen body bag lying on the gurney. The doc slams his hand down on it and there was no reaction. He turned and looked at me and said "8:10. If you're fucking ghoul go ahead and open it up."

I passed.
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Knew a lady that took that way out. Was a bad deal. She was tormented by the loss of a baby & by her demons most of her adult life Her luck never seemed to improve. After the marriage finally dissolved, husband remarried & a physically debilitating car accident, she could find no solace or peace anywhere. Only pain....
Link Posted: 12/17/2016 3:03:41 PM EDT
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Yes, dignified for young and mentally ill. Some idea.
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Boy. It's a good thing we don't allow people a dignified way of ending their life if they choose to. Someone could make a mistake. <img src=http://www.ar15.com/images/smilies/icon_smile_angry.gif border=0 align=middle>


Yes, dignified for young and mentally ill. Some idea.


Is it your body or not? Under 18 are already not allowed to make certain decisions by law. Mentally ill would be an unfortunate reality that more or less already exists just with messier results.

Unless you've seen a person suffer through a horrible end that they would have chosen a dignified, painless way out of if it were available, I don't think you'll see my point.

If one has seen it, and still would not be in favor of doctor assisted exit, then they are a cold, heartless bastard imo.
Link Posted: 12/17/2016 4:44:12 PM EDT
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I wonder if this is the same one? I didn't hear about the instructor getting hit also, so not sure.

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No, that's not the loft.
Link Posted: 12/17/2016 5:57:50 PM EDT
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The worst I've sort of seen was a suicide-by-freight train.

The ambulance crew that was with the body for about 6 hours showed up at the emergency room to have the idiot declared dead. It's not often you see EMTs absolutely pasty white and looking like they threw up 3 or 4 times.

I was a paramedic in training at the time and the ER doc who went out to pronounce took me with him.

We let into the ambulance to find a misshapen body bag lying on the gurney. The doc slams his hand down on it and there was no reaction. He turned and looked at me and said "8:10. If you're fucking ghoul go ahead and open it up."

I passed.
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Those incidents suck.

EMT I dated once said that she really hated the creative ones, particularly when they needed to get the shovel.(Apparently, she kept a shovel on the ambulance just for those incidents)

I've heard about some fairly bad ones, myself. Nastiest one was some dude who got pulled into a grinding mill, one of those big-ass industrial ones on quarries. No one knows if it was an accident or intentional, but he was ground up into chunks and paste, seeping out of the sides and bottom. Took 'em almost an hour to realize he was missing, and even longer to figure out what happened. I don't envy the poor fuckers who had to clean that thing.

Machine didn't even stutter.
Link Posted: 12/18/2016 1:40:13 AM EDT
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Those incidents suck.

EMT I dated once said that she really hated the creative ones, particularly when they needed to get the shovel.(Apparently, she kept a shovel on the ambulance just for those incidents)

I've heard about some fairly bad ones, myself. Nastiest one was some dude who got pulled into a grinding mill, one of those big-ass industrial ones on quarries. No one knows if it was an accident or intentional, but he was ground up into chunks and paste, seeping out of the sides and bottom. Took 'em almost an hour to realize he was missing, and even longer to figure out what happened. I don't envy the poor fuckers who had to clean that thing.

Machine didn't even stutter.
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The worst I've sort of seen was a suicide-by-freight train.

The ambulance crew that was with the body for about 6 hours showed up at the emergency room to have the idiot declared dead. It's not often you see EMTs absolutely pasty white and looking like they threw up 3 or 4 times.

I was a paramedic in training at the time and the ER doc who went out to pronounce took me with him.

We let into the ambulance to find a misshapen body bag lying on the gurney. The doc slams his hand down on it and there was no reaction. He turned and looked at me and said "8:10. If you're fucking ghoul go ahead and open it up."

I passed.


Those incidents suck.

EMT I dated once said that she really hated the creative ones, particularly when they needed to get the shovel.(Apparently, she kept a shovel on the ambulance just for those incidents)

I've heard about some fairly bad ones, myself. Nastiest one was some dude who got pulled into a grinding mill, one of those big-ass industrial ones on quarries. No one knows if it was an accident or intentional, but he was ground up into chunks and paste, seeping out of the sides and bottom. Took 'em almost an hour to realize he was missing, and even longer to figure out what happened. I don't envy the poor fuckers who had to clean that thing.

Machine didn't even stutter.



The industrial ones always skeeve me out, like the dude wrapped around the lathe with one perfect eyeball just sitting there.
Granted I'm not a machinist, but knowing it could turn you inside out should be a good reason to follow safety rules.

When I was working at the hospital before I got sick, (patient facing admin and ER admitting) I can only think of a couple suicide attempts that came in.  A couple OD's but the one that burned into my memory was just... dude.

So I'm watching the bus pulling into the bay, with a fire engine and two police units after it.  So I'm thinking it's someone combative as hell or something.  I clearly remember it was Nurse's week, because one of the security guys was eating a taco while we waited.  One of the officers comes over to tell us that it was bad and X should probably want to put the taco away because it was bad.  He looks at the officer, then the ambulance, back to the taco, and takes a huge bite.  Seriously, his twisted grin is just burned into my mind.  Never got the chance to go grouse hunting with him either.  Got sick before then.

Anyhow.

It took 8-10 guys to haul this  bariatric dude out of the bus and onto a heavy duty gurney.  Turns out he decided to try to off himself.  By refusing to get up to use the bathroom.  For fucking weeks.  Everything was septic as hell.  Thankfully they put that fat fuck in one of the negative pressure rooms.

Seriously WTF.  Also, I can honestly say without a doubt, I don't miss that job.  Between the interoffice politics and exposing me to all sorts of shit without informing me, fuck those guys.  It's also why I fly to Seattle for medical care. 
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