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Tell us more about the IWB holster.  Did the popo see your ankle one as well? Or did the 5.11 tactical pants cover it up?

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Get a supressor

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There is one building, but please show me this law that states there is a minimum distance for shooting. I have spent the last few hours doing a search on Indiana laws, and there are no such distance laws. There is a law about knowingly pointing a weapon at a person, but that did not happen.
FWIW, I used to live about 3 miles away, closer to town, and regularly shot my AR in my back yard with out one single complaint or visit.
I understand there are people who must find guilt when there is none because they have to justify their opinion.
This is a gun-friendly area. I will speak to the County Attorney tomorrow. I am also pro-cop, but anti-dumbass.

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Hey OP. Little request. Maybe an MS Paint drawing of your house and what lies 600-1000 yards around it, if you have not much to do of course.


On another note, I lived 13 years in a little subdivision out in S-Utah. Everyone had at least 5 acres. Maybe 20 homes max out there. I shot 22s every now and then for some pest control. One time a neighbor about 800 yards away called the Sheriff saying we shot her. She even bandaged her arm up and all. Sheriff knew she was a loony so nothing came of it. Point being, Some of your neighbors will outright lie and screw you. Watch your back man.

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Everybody scram the popo is here.

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Well, perhaps not as "boonie" as I would prefer, but definitely it is rural. My town consists of a four-way stop and 2 stores.

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Better yet, post a GOOGLE EARTH Image of where you live...I will tell you exactly how much of a chance you have at winning this...and I'll put money on it.

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Do Not incriminate your self, don't answer their questions.  Do not let them enter.  Do not consent to any searches.

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So are you within the town limits? If so then I would think you were discharging a firearm within city limits which would be against the law, at least in most towns/cities. I agree though, if you are outside town/city limits, they have no grounds to harass you.

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There is one building, but please show me this law that states there is a minimum distance for shooting. I have spent the last few hours doing a search on Indiana laws, and there are no such distance laws. There is a law about knowingly pointing a weapon at a person, but that did not happen.
FWIW, I used to live about 3 miles away, closer to town, and regularly shot my AR in my back yard with out one single complaint or visit.
I understand there are people who must find guilt when there is none because they have to justify their opinion.
This is a gun-friendly area. I will speak to the County Attorney tomorrow. I am also pro-cop, but anti-dumbass.

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contact the sheriff and file a complaint about the officers remarks. See where that takes you.

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This x 10

Just tell them your fine where you are and ask what you can do for them. They can not compel you to exit your house without a warrant.

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ESPECIALLY if you can have a witness testify - 'build a case' could be construed as falsifying a report, since you were not doing anything illegal.

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How about the fact that "shots fired" isn't a violation or even Probable Cause in a vast majority of the United States for starters?

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I see a couple scenarios here.

Some jerk is taking offense and he migh know a deputy or 2 and got them to intimidate you.

The other thing is that the same jerk has called so often that the deputies came out just to get the jerk off of their asses.



First thing I'd research is who has moved in recently. Good chance there's where the trouble lies.


If you said you live in NC, first thing I'd ask is "who recently moved there from New Jersey?"

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You don't live in the boonies.

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Definitely do that, although I would do as others have suggested and first research the laws of your county/state so you sound like you know what you're talking about. I would also submit a written statement documenting the deputy's threats and behavior, for future use. I would furthermore ask for a copy of the incident report, that may or may not have been completed, and that will probably tell who the complainant was. Now, don't go and abuse that information, but use it to build a defense should it later come to charges. I.e., "There's no way that Mrs. XXX could have been in danger because I was shooting in a direction opposite of her home." That kind of thing.



I'm LE, and I've responded to countless calls of this nature. Most of the time I don't even bother obtaining much info, because there's little that can be done in most unincorporated areas without someone (or someone's property) being damaged. I hate to see good folks being harangued by sorry do-good neighbors.

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I had a coyote problem last year....called DNR, state police, etc. and they all told me to check with the local county gov. for the laws governing my back yard...finally tracked down someone who says...since my yard is 3+ acres, in Oakland County, and specifically in my little section of the county where all the lots are large, it's OK to shoot varmints on my own land with rim fire or shotgun, not center fire (this I had to deduce since there's a state law making centerfire illegal this far south).





Now, I've heard neighbors shooting .22 or shotguns in the past, so I know people are doing this. But it's not frequent.





I went another route with the yotes so didn't have to shoot them (got a big dog). Haven't seen em since. But finding what the law is can be a real challenge... I had to call 3 offices and check a couple website to make sure one wasn't clashing with another ordinance...





It's my opinion that laws multiply because people continue to lose common sense and self-control, leading to gross abuses, which leads to others passing new laws just for that one or two bad apples....

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How far are you from the next occupied dwelling.  In NC I believe you are in violation of the law if you are shooting within 1000 feet of an occupied dwelling (other than your own)....does your state have any such law?

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Indiana has no such law
   

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I live in Harrison County, Indiana. It is a farming area, with the closest town some 8-10 miles away from me. I have around a 3 acre yard. Yesterday, I had my Mossberg 930 SPX out killing moles that tear up my back yard. I probably shot 5 times into the ground at a better than 45 degree angle. The were no ricochets, as I would have gotten struck. I then shot a few rotten tomatoes from my garden that were on the ground. This is normal for me. I shoot at least once a day on my property. I am very careful about where my shots go, and I can account for each one when I pull the trigger. I also carry openly when I am on my property, as the moles don't keep scheduled hunting hours.
I have people who live around me, and they also shoot from time to time. So I was curious yesterday when I seen 2 deputies driving around like they were looking for something, as they rarely come around here. I had already finished shooting, and was entertaining family friends inside, when someone knocked on the door. I go to the door, and there are two deputies outside. One is facing the door, the other is beside the door hiding. I can see him through the window however. The one deputy facing the door yells for me to leave my gun inside(my M&P 357 sig in a desantis IWB rig) So, I slowly remove the entire holster and set it on my bookcase by the door and walk outside.
The first deputy asked me if I was the homeowner, to which I replied "yes, I am". He asked me for my license which I produced and gave to the other deputy. Then the first deputy started on a rant on how dangerous I was, and how there were children around and that they had gone code three to get here, and endangered other people going code three, because I was shooting.  I tried to politely tell the deputy that I was very safe when I shoot, and was not aware there was any law I had broken in doing so. He replied that if this happens again, he will come out and "build a case" against me. I realize it does no good arguing in a situation like this, so I simply said "fair enough".  They left, and I have been so fucking mad that I fear I may bust a vein. I support what these guys do, but i did nothing incorrect or unlawful.

Now, I simply ask for advice on what to do next. There are no laws around here that prohibit shooting. This is somewhat of a good ol' boy network, and I am an outsider for the most part.

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I talked to the County Attorney this morning, and they agreed with me that there was no reason for the officer to say what he said, and there are no laws against what I was doing. The are going to investigate the incident and want me to contact them back tomorrow.
I simply want an apology and to be left alone when I am doing nothing wrong. Thanks for the advice ARFCOM.