[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Rifle jamming in firefight. (Page 4 of 6)
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Quoted: I'm betting he has prior service with the UK military but 'elite' couldn't be used as a descriptive word. That was a lot of randomly shooting in a direction, there was nothing surgical about that shooting and he seemed to be unaware of height over bore and he was definitely unaware of correct distance behind cover as he was hugging that wall. Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Where is the brit and why is he fighting isis? Volunteers that joined the Peshmerga. They are not members of the UK military. I'm betting he has prior service with the UK military but 'elite' couldn't be used as a descriptive word. That was a lot of randomly shooting in a direction, there was nothing surgical about that shooting and he seemed to be unaware of height over bore and he was definitely unaware of correct distance behind cover as he was hugging that wall. Correct distance behind cover? What's the theory there? |
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Where is the brit and why is he fighting isis? Volunteers that joined the Peshmerga. They are not members of the UK military. I'm betting he has prior service with the UK military but 'elite' couldn't be used as a descriptive word. That was a lot of randomly shooting in a direction, there was nothing surgical about that shooting and he seemed to be unaware of height over bore and he was definitely unaware of correct distance behind cover as he was hugging that wall. Correct distance behind cover? What's the theory there? Don't crowd your cover.. The closer you are to cover, generally, the more of yourself you have to expose to get a shot off. Distance generally gives you more movement options. Standing back a bit from cover such as the corner of a wall makes the angle to your attacker shallower - which may improve the shot you have on him. |
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Don't crowd your cover.. The closer you are to cover, generally, the more of yourself you have to expose to get a shot off. Distance generally gives you more movement options. Standing back a bit from cover such as the corner of a wall makes the angle to your attacker shallower - which may improve the shot you have on him. Also if your cover gets shot, the spalling is more dangerous the closer you are. Feel free to correct me. |
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Also if your cover gets shot, the spalling is more dangerous the closer you are. Feel free to correct me. Quoted:
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Don't crowd your cover.. The closer you are to cover, generally, the more of yourself you have to expose to get a shot off. Distance generally gives you more movement options. Standing back a bit from cover such as the corner of a wall makes the angle to your attacker shallower - which may improve the shot you have on him. Also if your cover gets shot, the spalling is more dangerous the closer you are. Feel free to correct me. Absolutely correct.. You can also get a face full of brick, rock, etc... |
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Yes it does!! That's why we all practiced malfunction drills till we are blue in the face. My platoon went to help out another pinned down platoon in Fallujah. When we got there the insurgents scattered and we found US soldiers dead laying by their M4's completely field stripped to fix so they could fix their malfunctions. So the soldiers were so focused on their malfunctions they forgot that they were in a fire fight. Tunnel vision is a bitch. That sounds like a true story. Truer than anything. Wow. 
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Indeed. A member here had a cleaning rod tied into his AR. haven't seen it for a bit but a good idea. Quoted:
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it has a fucking cleaning rod for a reason. Indeed. A member here had a cleaning rod tied into his AR. haven't seen it for a bit but a good idea. Iwouldn'tknow. |
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it has a fucking cleaning rod for a reason. Indeed. A member here had a cleaning rod tied into his AR. haven't seen it for a bit but a good idea. Iwouldn'tknow. When I change out the handguard on my AR, I intend on doing it as well. I picked that idea up from Defoor. |
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Also if your cover gets shot, the spalling is more dangerous the closer you are. Feel free to correct me. Quoted:
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Don't crowd your cover.. The closer you are to cover, generally, the more of yourself you have to expose to get a shot off. Distance generally gives you more movement options. Standing back a bit from cover such as the corner of a wall makes the angle to your attacker shallower - which may improve the shot you have on him. Also if your cover gets shot, the spalling is more dangerous the closer you are. Feel free to correct me. And if you happen to take flanking fire along the wall (instead of the front), ricochets tend to follow the line of the wall - so a miss could turn into a hit if you're too close to cover. |
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Your optics have fantastic clarity. Perfect color resolution, too. 
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Perfect color resolution, too. Quoted:
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Your optics have fantastic clarity. Perfect color resolution, too. Kudos, you have at long last found the one true 1X optic. 
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Quoted: Truer than anything. Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Yes it does!! That's why we all practiced malfunction drills till we are blue in the face. My platoon went to help out another pinned down platoon in Fallujah. When we got there the insurgents scattered and we found US soldiers dead laying by their M4's completely field stripped to fix so they could fix their malfunctions. So the soldiers were so focused on their malfunctions they forgot that they were in a fire fight. Tunnel vision is a bitch. That sounds like a true story. Truer than anything. |
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That's not a 10" AR. Quoted:
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That looked like a catastrophic ammo failure more than one of the gun. Before you go upstairs to hug your 10" AR: http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=95d_1323928078&comments=1
That's not a 10" AR. I know that, but it's most definitely the direct impingement fanboy choice of the century. With a brake on it. Gotta have that muzzle brake. |
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Lol. Once you drop it in its fully inside. You cannot jam into earth. You can sometimes rocket it down fast enough to knock a case out, but our Afghans normally used the buddy system and two rods. Quoted:
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invert rifle... insert cleaning rod...rapidly drop rifle so cleaning rod contacts earth.... shove cleaning rod into barrel using earth....clear obstruction. adapt. improvise. overcome. Or stop using shitty rifles. Lol. Once you drop it in its fully inside. You cannot jam into earth. You can sometimes rocket it down fast enough to knock a case out, but our Afghans normally used the buddy system and two rods. 2 rods, one bore? |
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I know that, but it's most definitely the direct impingement fanboy choice of the century. With a brake on it. Gotta have that muzzle brake. Quoted:
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That looked like a catastrophic ammo failure more than one of the gun. Before you go upstairs to hug your 10" AR: http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=95d_1323928078&comments=1
That's not a 10" AR. I know that, but it's most definitely the direct impingement fanboy choice of the century. With a brake on it. Gotta have that muzzle brake. I dont think you did. |
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Yes it does!! That's why we all practiced malfunction drills till we are blue in the face. My platoon went to help out another pinned down platoon in Fallujah. When we got there the insurgents scattered and we found US soldiers dead laying by their M4's completely field stripped to fix so they could fix their malfunctions. So the soldiers were so focused on their malfunctions they forgot that they were in a fire fight. Tunnel vision is a bitch. That sounds like a true story. Truer than anything. If they had AKs they would have been able to pick up the Americans' ammo too and fire it, but the M16 doesn't work like that don'cha know. |
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The cleaning rod is actually too short to clear a stuck case by itself. AKs! Quoted:
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it has a fucking cleaning rod for a reason. The cleaning rod is actually too short to clear a stuck case by itself. AKs! Looks like he threw the rod down the barrel with enough juice to clear the casing. |
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One of the disadvantages to the underfolder is the lack of a cleaning kit in the butt stock. The extensions in it would be enough on the end of the rod to clear it. Yeah, I know we're talking about the video of someone in a firefight and you're probably not going to do that, but it does help. The single biggest disadvantage to an underfolder is that they absolutely suck to shoot. |
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Lol, only jams I saw were AKs, and pogues shooting on a range, Downrange with guns so filthy the receiver pins had thick rusting on them.
In fact I used my frags on a pair of stinkies on the other side of an orchard wall because we could hear their jawa chatter and them cycling a rifle action. They were trying to clear a malfunctioning AK. |
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And if you happen to take flanking fire along the wall (instead of the front), ricochets tend to follow the line of the wall - so a miss could turn into a hit if you're too close to cover. We also use that to our advantage when shooting at people close to cover as we can bounce rounds into them. The other reason is as mentioned, the greater movement ability, and the greater angle of viewing when talking corners etc. |
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I met a woman last week, and we were talking about Normandy. Her father was part of the second landing. at some point he and his group were pinned down - he stood up and waved his hands yelling time out. The germans hesitated, all confused, and his team got away. Hey got a bronze star for it. (at least according to her) Quoted:
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I'm guessing that raising one's hand and yelling, "TIME!" wouldn't do much good in such a situation? I met a woman last week, and we were talking about Normandy. Her father was part of the second landing. at some point he and his group were pinned down - he stood up and waved his hands yelling time out. The germans hesitated, all confused, and his team got away. Hey got a bronze star for it. (at least according to her) Doubt factor is high. If anything, a man standing up and waving his arms might be seen as a squad leader and good target. |
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"DON'T YOU EVER BEND DOWN AND PICK UP A MAGAZINE! IN FALLUJAH, THE MARINES BENT DOWN TO PICK UP MAGAZINES BECAUSE THEY DID IT IN TRAINING AND INSURGENTS WALKED RIGHT UP TO THEM AND SHOT THEM IN THE BACK OF THE HEAD!" "I SEEN IT HAPPEN A HUNDRED TIMES!" I picked up an empty mag in Husayba, Im dead now.
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Yes it does!! That's why we all practiced malfunction drills till we are blue in the face. My platoon went to help out another pinned down platoon in Fallujah. When we got there the insurgents scattered and we found US soldiers dead laying by their M4's completely field stripped to fix so they could fix their malfunctions. So the soldiers were so focused on their malfunctions they forgot that they were in a fire fight. Tunnel vision is a bitch. That sounds like a true story. Truer than anything. Wow. I think you need to take a sarcasm class |
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Quoted: Lol, only jams I saw were AKs, and pogues shooting on a range, Downrange with guns so filthy the receiver pins had thick rusting on them. In fact I used my frags on a pair of stinkies on the other side of an orchard wall because we could hear their jawa chatter and them cycling a rifle action. They were trying to clear a malfunctioning AK. The unit of IPs we took to the range, I'd say 50% of their AKs would jam. |
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I dont think you did. Yeah, what do I know. I was only issued my first one in 1986. Oh looky - here's some more. These are really good. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5CXu0nh-iD4 And to be fair, I did find one for AK's too, but not as many depicted: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPC-4KBX4qE |
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The unit of IPs we took to the range, I'd say 50% of their AKs would jam. Quoted:
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Lol, only jams I saw were AKs, and pogues shooting on a range, Downrange with guns so filthy the receiver pins had thick rusting on them. In fact I used my frags on a pair of stinkies on the other side of an orchard wall because we could hear their jawa chatter and them cycling a rifle action. They were trying to clear a malfunctioning AK. The unit of IPs we took to the range, I'd say 50% of their AKs would jam. Hmm, taking IPs to the range. Not sure if scarier than taking a BSB to the range. Death wish either way. |
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Yeah, what do I know. I was only issued my first one in 1986. Oh looky - here's some more. These are really good. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5CXu0nh-iD4 And to be fair, I did find one for AK's too, but not as many depicted: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPC-4KBX4qE Quoted:
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I dont think you did. Yeah, what do I know. I was only issued my first one in 1986. Oh looky - here's some more. These are really good. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5CXu0nh-iD4 And to be fair, I did find one for AK's too, but not as many depicted: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPC-4KBX4qE 
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I may actually do this, but I'd put the handle towards the front. I would think the little Bit of recoil would slide the rod back, so tab handle would catch. Plus if you need it its more natural, like a ramrod on a muzzleloader. |
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Quoted: Hmm, taking IPs to the range. Not sure if scarier than taking a BSB to the range. Death wish either way. Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Lol, only jams I saw were AKs, and pogues shooting on a range, Downrange with guns so filthy the receiver pins had thick rusting on them. In fact I used my frags on a pair of stinkies on the other side of an orchard wall because we could hear their jawa chatter and them cycling a rifle action. They were trying to clear a malfunctioning AK. The unit of IPs we took to the range, I'd say 50% of their AKs would jam. Hmm, taking IPs to the range. Not sure if scarier than taking a BSB to the range. Death wish either way. Now that I look back on it. It seems pretty scary. lol There was like 50 of them and only 4 of us. We wouldn't have been able to put up any good fight if they decided to turn on us. |
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Now that I look back on it. It seems pretty scary. lol There was like 50 of them and only 4 of us. We wouldn't have been able to put up any good fight if they decided to turn on us. Quoted:
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Lol, only jams I saw were AKs, and pogues shooting on a range, Downrange with guns so filthy the receiver pins had thick rusting on them. In fact I used my frags on a pair of stinkies on the other side of an orchard wall because we could hear their jawa chatter and them cycling a rifle action. They were trying to clear a malfunctioning AK. The unit of IPs we took to the range, I'd say 50% of their AKs would jam. Hmm, taking IPs to the range. Not sure if scarier than taking a BSB to the range. Death wish either way. Now that I look back on it. It seems pretty scary. lol There was like 50 of them and only 4 of us. We wouldn't have been able to put up any good fight if they decided to turn on us. Fortunately Iraqis are more or less lemmings so I guess it's unlikely. Plus all the broken aks 
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If they had AKs they would have been able to pick up the Americans' ammo too and fire it, but the M16 doesn't work like that don'cha know. Quoted:
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Yes it does!! That's why we all practiced malfunction drills till we are blue in the face. My platoon went to help out another pinned down platoon in Fallujah. When we got there the insurgents scattered and we found US soldiers dead laying by their M4's completely field stripped to fix so they could fix their malfunctions. So the soldiers were so focused on their malfunctions they forgot that they were in a fire fight. Tunnel vision is a bitch. That sounds like a true story. Truer than anything. If they had AKs they would have been able to pick up the Americans' ammo too and fire it, but the M16 doesn't work like that don'cha know. It's Mattel's fault for making such crappy guns. |
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I remember that too, but I wouldn't know who would do something like that. <a href="http://s400.photobucket.com/user/223556762308/media/FullSizeRender_zps2ee84ac8.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i400.photobucket.com/albums/pp84/223556762308/FullSizeRender_zps2ee84ac8.jpg</a> Quoted:
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it has a fucking cleaning rod for a reason. Indeed. A member here had a cleaning rod tied into his AR. haven't seen it for a bit but a good idea. I remember that too, but I wouldn't know who would do something like that. <a href="http://s400.photobucket.com/user/223556762308/media/FullSizeRender_zps2ee84ac8.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i400.photobucket.com/albums/pp84/223556762308/FullSizeRender_zps2ee84ac8.jpg</a> What you did there... |
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Lol, only jams I saw were AKs, and pogues shooting on a range, Downrange with guns so filthy the receiver pins had thick rusting on them. In fact I used my frags on a pair of stinkies on the other side of an orchard wall because we could hear their jawa chatter and them cycling a rifle action. They were trying to clear a malfunctioning AK. Please tell me you had written 'surprise cockfag' on those frags. Even if you didn't, just tell me you did! |
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