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1/10/2021 5:06:35 AM EDT
[#1]
Good.  Its sad but it needs to happen.  Putting this in an area for paid members only will help a little at least.  Between the forum sliding and consensus cracking that has happened here over the last 5 years, a huge portion of this sites member base has been led to believe some pretty outlandish stuff.
1/10/2021 5:08:31 AM EDT
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Well shit. Orwellian pressure is real


Theres always the team forum. Shouldnt it be the new GD for members?
1/10/2021 5:24:54 AM EDT
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1/10/2021 5:45:35 AM EDT
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We will be working on the referral system discussed earlier in this thread to allow members to VET their friends/family and trusted folks. Some great suggestions too on making it better. We will find a way to get things back to normal as well. Let this wave of hate die off. This isn't the first or last time it has happened.
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I don't have any "friends/family and trusted folks" on here. Some people may recognize my avatar/username, but no one will "vet" me. This site shouldn't be some kind of emulator of fakefook.
1/10/2021 6:13:37 AM EDT
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Jan 2021 account with archived posts from the past.... What was your old screenname buddy?
1/10/2021 6:16:29 AM EDT
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I agree with moving the primarily political threads out of GD behind the member only section, even before the events of the 6th.


I don't fully support or condone the actions of the 6th. I think you are seeing a lot of pissed off people in a free society. Sometimes you get what you get.
1/10/2021 6:29:18 AM EDT
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I don't know what to believe.
1/10/2021 6:30:40 AM EDT
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There was no list.
1/10/2021 6:48:12 AM EDT
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I 'member free grizzledumpferdach

You 'member?  I 'member.
1/10/2021 6:52:40 AM EDT
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1/10/2021 7:23:42 AM EDT
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Federated network of ActivityPub [1] servers ; I recommend Pleroma [2] which is written in Elixir , very small, fast light, self contained (can run on RPi) unlike Mastodon -- you could use with one of many ActivityPub existing frontends, or write custom JS SPA frontend to support forum structure.

[1] https://www.w3.org/TR/activitypub/ , https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ActivityPub

[2] https://pleroma.social/
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This is something discussed previously and in our plans. Not part of this type of restore, but to come after. We also have to start looking at alternatives to the forum structure. Something new, fast, and portable. Lots of ideas, little time!



Federated network of ActivityPub [1] servers ; I recommend Pleroma [2] which is written in Elixir , very small, fast light, self contained (can run on RPi) unlike Mastodon -- you could use with one of many ActivityPub existing frontends, or write custom JS SPA frontend to support forum structure.

[1] https://www.w3.org/TR/activitypub/ , https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ActivityPub

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What about a true p2p way of designing it?  I'm not super familiar with this stuff but couldn't "they" just pull the plug on our node in a federated model?

With p2p they'd have to target individuals on a case by case basis.  I.e. it would be resistant to even a complete takedown.

https://www.manyver.se/
1/10/2021 7:30:59 AM EDT
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For anyone that already paid, or purchased AR parts with a CC, it’s too late. They have all the data.

If you want real OPSEC now, form a Trust to buy land in the sticks without an address, become a vagrant, a Bedouin goat herder or walk the earth like Cain in Kungfu.
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Consider starting to accept crypto for memberships.

bitcoin + some privacy coin like zcash or monero

For anyone that already paid, or purchased AR parts with a CC, it’s too late. They have all the data.

If you want real OPSEC now, form a Trust to buy land in the sticks without an address, become a vagrant, a Bedouin goat herder or walk the earth like Cain in Kungfu.

I don't think that he was concerned about keeping user financial information from the US government, but preparing the site to get blacklisted by the credit card processors. It's probably a good idea to get started on that now.

Cryptocurrency came around just in time, everybody had better learn to use both bitcoin and monero, and learn how to set up a private wallet.
1/10/2021 8:02:48 AM EDT
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I don't know what to believe.


At least I followed his advice and screenshot his posts before changing the page so I can read what they said.

1/10/2021 8:05:18 AM EDT
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I don't think that he was concerned about keeping user financial information from the US government, but preparing the site to get blacklisted by the credit card processors. It's probably a good idea to get started on that now.

Cryptocurrency came around just in time, everybody had better learn to use both bitcoin and monero, and learn how to set up a private wallet.
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Consider starting to accept crypto for memberships.

bitcoin + some privacy coin like zcash or monero

For anyone that already paid, or purchased AR parts with a CC, it’s too late. They have all the data.

If you want real OPSEC now, form a Trust to buy land in the sticks without an address, become a vagrant, a Bedouin goat herder or walk the earth like Cain in Kungfu.

I don't think that he was concerned about keeping user financial information from the US government, but preparing the site to get blacklisted by the credit card processors. It's probably a good idea to get started on that now.

Cryptocurrency came around just in time, everybody had better learn to use both bitcoin and monero, and learn how to set up a private wallet.


Fortunately () due to Gov. Andy I haven't had to worry about buying any Black Rifle parts for over eight years now. They already know about my handguns.

1/10/2021 8:13:44 AM EDT
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It's so crazy to me that the left is able to call for, and participate in mass violence for years without any repercussions. Meanwhile, an actual MOSTLY PEACEFUL protest by the right is enough to launch a campaign of mass censorship and calls for "domestic terrorist" laws. And of course, yet another bullshit impeachment attempt.

This doesn't even feel like real life.
1/10/2021 8:23:42 AM EDT
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I hope this action, if nothing else, will cut down on the number of leftist douchebags who have infiltrated this once bastion of conservative thought.

...and no, I don't care if it has been an "echo chamber."
1/10/2021 8:25:21 AM EDT
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It's so crazy to me that the left is able to call for, and participate in mass violence for years without any repercussions. Meanwhile, an actual MOSTLY PEACEFUL protest by the right is enough to launch a campaign of mass censorship and calls for "domestic terrorist" laws. And of course, yet another bullshit impeachment attempt.

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The left has been doing their violence and damage to normal people in city streets. Politicians see that as an opportunity that they can exploit. 1/6 brought an angry crowd into the Capitol and suddenly every politician in the building and every one elsewhere had to face the stark reality that they really are touchable under the right circumstances. When “accountability” stops meaning sitting through hearings conducted by your friends and suddenly becomes the possibility of a human wave attack by people who might like to see you strung up from a lamppost, they want to see it crushed as quickly and thoroughly as possible.
1/10/2021 8:31:12 AM EDT
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Losing ARF as a platform would be BAD.

You can't yell "fire" in a crowded movie theater, either.

Organize here and vent your spleen over a beer in trusted company.

The hypocrisy is extremely galling, but I don't see a better alternative.
1/10/2021 8:36:20 AM EDT
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I don't think that he was concerned about keeping user financial information from the US government, but preparing the site to get blacklisted by the credit card processors. It's probably a good idea to get started on that now.

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+1 Political discussion should move to Team and the site should move to crypto.

Basically figure out a way to serve the site as if you were trying to host in Venezuela or China, because that's where it's heading.
1/10/2021 8:44:41 AM EDT
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Mike Glover posted an outstanding video on ig about the events unfolding right now.

It's worth the search. mike a glover on ig. Video was posted 3 days ago. It's him sitting in front of a wall of sound panels just talking to camera.
1/10/2021 8:45:34 AM EDT
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Stating the obvious but this place has really changed over the years or shall i say “succumbed” to the pressures of society.

It was a place i would come sit & read for hours about how to build my first AR and then i stumbled into GD.
There were threads i read that were LOL funny and my family would look at me like i was crazy.

Blading at 45
Lootie
Ryan’ Steakhouse
Brother Fucker

Too many to name and Then the videos that were created to give a full synopsis of the years here. I really enjoyed it.

And then one day something just changed.
To me, It was about the time the Brits called to have the post removed from the site...I was floored that could happen.

So then i told myself, NO more memberships but i caved due to the fact that i liked the “little” green arrows that much...lol

Lately the atmosphere around here just doesn’t have that homey feel to it anymore...Yes, there still are great people, there always will be but everyone comes off as confrontational instead of inviting.

In all the years here, I have never hit report or put anyone on ignore. Its just not who I am and i hope to never be that person.

Hell, I even got a week timeout or shall I say a “weak” timeout last month for posting the meme of the South Park dad On Wheel of Fortune.
It used to be posted almost weekly a few years ago and nobody blinked an eye.

The bending of the Knee is real...

“When you tear out a man's tongue, you are not proving him a liar, you're only telling the world that you fear what he might say.”
1/10/2021 8:53:44 AM EDT
[#22]
Well I missed 24 pages since yesterday
1/10/2021 9:00:46 AM EDT
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1/10/2021 9:04:16 AM EDT
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Well we're not Neville Chamberlain trying to appease at this point.

At this point we're in Dunkirk and trying to evacuate back to Britain.

What a friggin mess.
1/10/2021 9:04:56 AM EDT
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Trump won !.....MAGA FOREVER !!!!..................There, I feel better now. More coffee, please ?.......................
1/10/2021 9:08:17 AM EDT
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Well we're not Neville Chamberlain trying to appease at this point.

At this point we're in Dunkirk and trying to evacuate back to Britain.

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The Germans are already occupying Britain....Where do you go now?
1/10/2021 9:10:57 AM EDT
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Stating the obvious but this place has really changed over the years or shall i say “succumbed” to the pressures of society.

It was a place i would come sit & read for hours about how to build my first AR and then i stumbled into GD.
There were threads i read that were LOL funny and my family would look at me like i was crazy.

Blading at 45
Lootie
Ryan’ Steakhouse
Brother Fucker

Too many to name and Then the videos that were created to give a full synopsis of the years here. I really enjoyed it.

And then one day something just changed.
To me, It was about the time the Brits called to have the post removed from the site...I was floored that could happen.

So then i told myself, NO more memberships but i caved due to the fact that i liked the “little” green arrows that much...lol

Lately the atmosphere around here just doesn’t have that homey feel to it anymore...Yes, there still are great people, there always will be but everyone comes off as confrontational instead of inviting.

In all the years here, I have never hit report or put anyone on ignore. Its just not who I am and i hope to never be that person.

Hell, I even got a week timeout or shall I say a “weak” timeout last month for posting the meme of the South Park dad On Wheel of Fortune.
It used to be posted almost weekly a few years ago and nobody blinked an eye.

The bending of the Knee is real...

“When you tear out a man's tongue, you are not proving him a liar, you're only telling the world that you fear what he might say.”
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1/10/2021 9:15:26 AM EDT
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1/10/2021 9:16:51 AM EDT
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First off GoatBoy thank you for your stalwart service to ARFCOM. If this is going to be the new GD  than they have already won. Their goal is to silence our voice and crush us until we are no more. If ARFCOM's neck is on the chopping block, moving passionate political discussions into TEAM will only delay AWS from dumping ARFCOM.

Changing how we operate will only delay the inevitable. Never in history has  bowing to the pressure the left imposes resulted in success for those who oppose them. We all know they are hell bent on taking us out, it is our choice if we go out on our feet or on our knees. I value the ARFCOM community immensely and will do everything in my power to hold onto it, I will never take a knee to the bullying of the left.
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Jesus Christ.

How is putting political discussions behind the paywall so bots cannot index them “silencing our voice?”

Some of you need to grow the fuck up.
1/10/2021 9:18:41 AM EDT
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Yeah but you get to read threads from juni4ling.
1/10/2021 9:20:29 AM EDT
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1/10/2021 9:21:59 AM EDT
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Damn good answer, except Dr. Mengele is already there....
1/10/2021 9:24:22 AM EDT
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It looks like it's time to shut down the site. There are worse things to come.

A some of our current national and local problems are because of the management of the site and others years ago, which allowed paid leftist trolls to run rampant and cause a lot of needless conflict, and also political apathy.
1/10/2021 9:29:17 AM EDT
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One time I didn’t miss the good stuff.
1/10/2021 9:29:26 AM EDT
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Jesus Christ.

How is putting political discussions behind the paywall so bots cannot index them “silencing our voice?”

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Like I told GoatBoy, Everything is political on here and most places for that matter. This is because everything revolves arounds specifics, as you of all people know.

Start a thread on GD about nuclear proliferation or a 1978 Chevy Cavalier, and within six posts, politics will creep into the thread...By page three, there are fourteen edgelords and sixty herp derps....Look at this forum this morning...Everything has a political edge to it. The politics forum.....Yawn.

If you're going to move all political discussion to the politics forum, you may as well move the entire GD to that forum.
1/10/2021 9:30:20 AM EDT
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The best and most "priceless" part of this board are the technical sections, not GD, IMO. Why not make GD/politics an entirely separate entity in order to safeguard the "family jewels" from any ham fisted censorship? Losing the technical boards due to GD shenanigans (real or imagined) would be an almost irreplaceable loss given the years of information that has accumulated (probably millions of man hours of "institutional knowledge"), now that would be a tragedy if it became inaccessible/gone.

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You think they won't want to shut down a huge tech site that talks about building guns?
1/10/2021 9:31:09 AM EDT
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I still see plenty of political threads in GD, what is the criteria for moving and deleting?

I support the new policy BTW, it isn't hiding or caving to not be easy.
1/10/2021 9:32:45 AM EDT
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Well alrighty then!
1/10/2021 9:34:31 AM EDT
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Then you need to study what happened with the French.
1/10/2021 9:34:33 AM EDT
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Damn, 2 posts since 2014....
1/10/2021 9:36:11 AM EDT
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I am familiar with France during WW2....Quite familiar actually.

The point I was making is that if the British were trapped at Dunkirk and the Germans were already in Britain, what do you do then?
1/10/2021 9:45:11 AM EDT
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Understood.  I hope you are successful.
1/10/2021 10:01:08 AM EDT
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1/10/2021 10:01:15 AM EDT
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After all the nonsense we've had to put up with around here over the last 4 years?

Seems censorship is a one way street everywhere.  
1/10/2021 10:06:57 AM EDT
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Tell it to Parler they played the game for a while then the demands got to be more than they would accept. In 24 hours they were getting shutdown. People here have been talking about this garbage coming for years. GAB got there crap together after multiple deplatforming, now they are going to win big because they were ready.
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Gab is so busy you can't even log in
1/10/2021 10:09:05 AM EDT
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They can cut off our head and two more will take it's place. ARFCOM is not about me, it's not about the business, it's about the ideals we have come to appreciate and build our lives around. We are patriots. Maybe the last patriots left in this country who care about it's very soul.



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I don’t think any of us want this. If taking action now prevents it, we do it. Until we figure out how to stop the attack on freedom of speech tell me the choices we have.
1/10/2021 10:10:58 AM EDT
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just boot the fuckstick
1/10/2021 10:12:03 AM EDT
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Understood. Keep in mind I am right here next to you. I am going through the exact same thing. I vow to be MORE involved and MORE active, not criticize others for what they do or are sometimes forced to do.

They are coming for us all.
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Fair enough but realize we are all having a hard wake up call that has made us realize we are living in George Orwell's "1984".

Although many of us older Arfcommers realized this was coming it is still a hard pill to swallow.......but here we are........in George Orwell's "1984".


Understood. Keep in mind I am right here next to you. I am going through the exact same thing. I vow to be MORE involved and MORE active, not criticize others for what they do or are sometimes forced to do.

They are coming for us all.

Crazy times Goatboy.......CRAZY friggin' times.
1/10/2021 10:18:37 AM EDT
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You knew deep down that "1984" was coming.

Monopoly of service providers who are of one mind and ideology, with unchecked power, will eventually ALWAYS demand that all participants talk, behave, believe and live the way they want and require.

It is inevitable no matter what the platform or technology.

We are being controlled by Leftist radicals who are hellbent on resetting America into their extreme left wing "utopia" where everyone thinks the same, says the same and punishes severely all those who disagree with them.

It is sad and dangerous but you knew it was coming.
1/10/2021 10:20:52 AM EDT
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Nothing you do will be good enough. Users know you caved. The censors will demand more.

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