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A person is justified in using deadly force against another to protect land or tangible, movable property: (2) when and to the degree he reasonably believes the deadly force is immediately necessary: (A) to prevent the other’s imminent commission of arson, burglary, robbery, aggravated robbery, theft during the nighttime, or criminal mischief during the nighttime (Night time is 30 minutes after sunset until 30 minutes before sunrise). Is a statue "land or tangible, moveable property" seems like it's immovable property, also seems to only apply after dark if you are calling it criminal mischief View Quote |
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Can you be a resident from another state or multi state CCW holder to get in on this?
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By my read, it wouldn't be legal as a statue doesn't strike me as land or tangible movable property. And even if it was, deadly force would only be permitted at night. I'm not a lawyer, though. Y'all feel free to be a test case on this one. Imma sit this one out. View Quote |
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A person is justified in using deadly force against another to protect land or tangible, movable property: (2) when and to the degree he reasonably believes the deadly force is immediately necessary: (A) to prevent the other’s imminent commission of arson, burglary, robbery, aggravated robbery, theft during the nighttime, or criminal mischief during the nighttime (Night time is 30 minutes after sunset until 30 minutes before sunrise). Is a statue "land or tangible, moveable property" seems like it's immovable property, also seems to only apply after dark if you are calling it criminal mischief View Quote |
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Just spitballin' here; but I'll bet if a few of them got shot, the vandalism would stop right quick.
Would putting a statue of Jefferson Davis on your lawn be hunting over bait? |
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Well God Bless Texas! thats very cool! (not cool enough to make up for Austin morons though..... y'all need to work on that....) met my quota for the quarter. |
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Not admitted in Texas, but in many states, including mine, items affixed to real property are deemed to be real property. View Quote Shooting at dorks attacking statues is more excitement than I am looking for in life, but whatever |
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Just spitballin' here; but I'll bet if a few of them got shot, the vandalism would stop right quick. Would putting a statue of Jefferson Davis on your lawn be hunting over bait? View Quote However, you might get pinched for "inducing" or entrapment I suppose. You know the cases were "We" are, "it was a good shoot until that." or "Yeah, you cant do that, but I'm not saying guilty. The criminal was on his property.". |
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I volunteer to NOT be the test case for this. Fuckin retarded. View Quote Happens just ONE time and I bet most of ANTIFA will be changing tactics quick in TX. Which will most certainly include a few chest beaters. Not too many for the boys on here from TX to handle. |
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Don't mess with Texas.... statues at night. View Quote |
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At least we have ours mostly contained. FL has a lot of work to do to get them all grouped together. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Well God Bless Texas! thats very cool! (not cool enough to make up for Austin morons though..... y'all need to work on that....) Tallahassee and everything else to the East and Southeast, is the issue. I will not acknowledge the Panhandle as the "conservativeish reserve". |
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The problem I see is that it is neither your property nor property that the owner wants you to defend. If it was at night, then criminal mischief at night comes into play. UT owned the statues it moved, so that was a gimme. Nw the cop was right to one point. Good luck getting a jury to convict the shooter in Texas. View Quote Just look at all the statue and name hysteria that started literally overnight. For no good reason except for the paid agitators at work. |
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I say we converge at The Alamo and "give them their canon back".
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I suppose if you bought a plot of land and it had a big ass brass Confederate General on a rock in the middle that would be assumed to be part of the real estate. Shooting at dorks attacking statues is more excitement than I am looking for in life, but whatever View Quote "Whew that was a big ole commie, I hope you brought your checkbook!" |
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I don't believe this will work in left wing towns like Austin. For all the bluster about Texas, it is chock full of left leaning liberals, pinko politicians, and cock suckers.
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A person is justified in using deadly force against another to protect land or tangible, movable property: (2) when and to the degree he reasonably believes the deadly force is immediately necessary: (A) to prevent the other’s imminent commission of arson, burglary, robbery, aggravated robbery, theft during the nighttime, or criminal mischief during the nighttime (Night time is 30 minutes after sunset until 30 minutes before sunrise). Is a statue "land or tangible, moveable property" seems like it's immovable property, also seems to only apply after dark if you are calling it criminal mischief View Quote |
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A person is justified in using deadly force against another to protect land or tangible, movable property: (2) when and to the degree he reasonably believes the deadly force is immediately necessary: (A) to prevent the other’s imminent commission of arson, burglary, robbery, aggravated robbery, theft during the nighttime, or criminal mischief during the nighttime (Night time is 30 minutes after sunset until 30 minutes before sunrise). Is a statue "land or tangible, moveable property" seems like it's immovable property, also seems to only apply after dark if you are calling it criminal mischief View Quote Chef.. |
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A person is justified in using deadly force against another to protect land or tangible, movable property: (2) when and to the degree he reasonably believes the deadly force is immediately necessary: (A) to prevent the other’s imminent commission of arson, burglary, robbery, aggravated robbery, theft during the nighttime, or criminal mischief during the nighttime (Night time is 30 minutes after sunset until 30 minutes before sunrise). Is a statue "land or tangible, moveable property" seems like it's immovable property, also seems to only apply after dark if you are calling it criminal mischief View Quote |
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Step one- get permit for free speech rally
Step two- make large confederate statue ,put on trailer of brodozer or in the bed. Step three- center it near the rally. Step four - hunt over bait. |
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That is the best question I have seen in a long time View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes |
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So could you blast away at ppl stealing your political signs at night then as well?
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A person is justified in using deadly force against another to protect land or tangible, movable property: (2) when and to the degree he reasonably believes the deadly force is immediately necessary: (A) to prevent the other’s imminent commission of arson, burglary, robbery, aggravated robbery, theft during the nighttime, or criminal mischief during the nighttime (Night time is 30 minutes after sunset until 30 minutes before sunrise). Is a statue "land or tangible, moveable property" seems like it's immovable property, also seems to only apply after dark if you are calling it criminal mischief |
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http://libertyparkpress.com/police-warn-protesters-texas-gun-owners-can-shoot-you-on-sight-if-you-mess-with-our-statues/ Texas police academy instructor is letting protesters know that any gun owner in Texas can use deadly force to stop vandalism, destruction, or the defacing of any monuments or statues in Texas. View Quote Oh. Fuck.... I cannot fucking wait!!! God damn it this is awesome. Quick. SOmeone get live feeds up around the statues so we can see this shit. |
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I don't suggest you test this one.
It's a homicide charge, and a trial and a judge and a jury and someone dead over a statue. Even if you win, you will be broke, you will be famous, and you will eternally be the @sshole who killed someone over a statue. If you lose, you will be imprisoned, and you will eternally be the @sshole who killed someone over a statue. Also, civil suits galore. You will have shat things up for every other gun owner in the country, providing the media and the Left with even more evidence that we are all "bloodthirsty racists", as well as "proving that the statue is a symbol of hate and as such needs to come down". They are waiting for it. You'd give them all they need. You might be tempted to the goalpost way over there in the "lawful self-defense" corner to make the case that killing someone over a statue will bear no real cost, so long as you can get the vandals to take a poke at you. Obviously, if someone is trying to kill or injure you, then you have a much better chance of a solid legal defense. But that isn't the scenario described in the article that was posted. Even that one is dicey if it appears that you went looking for a confrontation. You shouldn't conflate killing a home invader in your living room at 3 am with killing a 19yo vandal in a Che t-shirt in a park at 3 pm. Taking it a step further, if your thought process runs "IF I KILL SOMEONE FOR ATTACKING A STATUE, ALL THE OTHERS WILL BE DETERRED" you'd likely be wrong. Nope. It'll just up the ante. And you will still just be the @sshole who killed someone over a statue that you didn't own. Would you kill someone to defend a random file cabinet in the county courthouse? This isn't private property in most cases - these statues are generally owned by municipalities, government bodies with money to do repairs and police forces to protect their property. Damaging city, county, or state property shouldn't be a matter of concern to you that rises to the level of justifying deadly force. If you are willing to kill someone attempting to vandalize a statue but not a file cabinet, then the difference is the symbolic value. If you are willing to kill someone over symbolic value, you are more hardcore than I am, definitely. You may also be a bona-fide psychopath. Be real, guys. I know we all talk shit when we are hanging out at the Nuge's ranch, but this is the internet. It's serious business! I know that I used a bunch of big faggy words, and I am a Commie Antifa or something for suggesting that you might not oughta kill people over statues. In reality, I probably vote the same way you do on 2/3 or more issues. I even support the principle of "he needed killing'" in many cases. But we differ on the topic of "killing strangers over vandalism of government property". If you do it, it'll cost you. |
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